I have a lot to say. First, a balk isn’t a thing in softball so please stop calling it that. Second there are no pick offs in softball as a runner is not allowed to disengage from the base until the pitcher has released the ball. Third softball does have illegal pitches but this is not one. It’s a ball because it was an attempted pitch that did not go through the strike zone. Illegal pitches in softball most often come from something called a crow hop when both feet are off the ground simultaneously which the rules state 1 foot must be in contact with the ground at all times. She did that. There is also a rule that the ball can’t pass the pitchers hip more than 3 times and she is good there too. Yet another common way for an illegal pitch to be called is if the pitcher disengages from the rubber before moving forward twords the plate (usually in the windup) but this rarely happens now that 1 foot is allowed to be off the rubber behind the plate. So having said all that this essentially comes down to this; it’s a ball and just like any other called ball it is live and runners advance at their own risk. Yes I am a softball umpire, former coach and league official.

@johnsecor3751

12 күн бұрын

Watch a King and His Court game..Some of the rules fall by the wayside.

@irieapakau4212

12 күн бұрын

Is the pitcher allowed to that purposely? This looks like that!

@gl22222

12 күн бұрын

Yeah, basically what I thought. My little sister played softball and I learned that there aren’t pickoffs. So confused what the team and coach are thinking here.

@dantegargiulo4953

12 күн бұрын

Ouuuuuuu it’s a balk

@moosepunkable

11 күн бұрын

But on your second point what would happen to the runner who disengaded first? Didn’t that occur before the “ball”?

I accidentally got stuck on this short while washing the dishes, and it starts to sound like a song after a while

@aidan4365

7 күн бұрын

😂😂 so relatable

@wokeupinapanic

Күн бұрын

Almost everything under 10 seconds that repeats can be songified after enough repetitions As Adam Neely repeatedly says; Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes Repetition legitimizes

@Maziemaze16

Күн бұрын

I’ve been listening and trying to hear a song and idk what you’re hearing 😂

As an ex Umpire and coach my interpretation is its a ball and runner is tagged out. Now if it happens several times by the same team I would have to get the UIC involved to be sure they are not breaking a rule I am not sure about.

I’m pretty sure it’s an illegal pitch so it’s just a ball and the runner should be out but idk 🤷‍♀️

@Shaw_111

Ай бұрын

It is an illegal pitch, batter gets a ball. but in this case ball is live and runners may advance at own risk.

@adamellsworth9462

Ай бұрын

@@Shaw_111 except the rule book says ball must pass home plate to be a live ball…

@GenerationDown

22 күн бұрын

@@adamellsworth9462what if for example someone is stealing second base and pitcher turns to throw it to second baseman, baseman misses ball and it keeps going. Runner continues on, you’re saying this isn’t a live ball? Because it didn’t pass home plate? Not arguing just curious.

@darinsuchon3883

18 күн бұрын

I would consider this a Bach, runner gets second no pitch

@pizzle58

15 күн бұрын

@@darinsuchon3883 Johan Sebastian Bach? Lol it’s spelled balk, not bach

It would be so much nicer when parents (especially) the ones filming to be quiet!

The fear in the runners eyes after seeing all of this unfold

@rhiannawilliams4218

Күн бұрын

Except you cannot see the runner's eyes soo...

Perfectly legal unless batter already had 3 balls, counted as a ball and runner could be tagged out but if it was at 3 balls prior to the pitch the runner might have left early otherwise it’s simply dead ball runners on 1st and 2nd

Since I can’t see first base, I can’t say for sure, but this runner either left early (which she’s out) or she’s really oblivious because she didn’t start running until it was clear that the ball was moving towards 2 nd base. In which case , I’m not even mad that she got out.

@nummynutz1

5 күн бұрын

Just because a coach tells early doesn't make it so.

@orangeandbluehoosier

5 күн бұрын

@@nummynutz1 ???

@rhiannawilliams4218

Күн бұрын

Which is wild to me. I SWEAR when I played softball we were able to lead off as soon as the pitcher took position to start the wind up.

That should not be legal

@AustinBarner

Ай бұрын

Why?

@natesinko9069

Ай бұрын

My boy your profile dog smurf

@Dynamite-Bang

Ай бұрын

@@AustinBarnerit’s a balk so she would be able to get the next base anyway.

@Shaw_111

Ай бұрын

@@Dynamite-Bangthere is no balks in softball. It is called illegal pitch. Only certain illegal pitches are dead balls. In this case it’s an illegal pitch, ball on batter and it is live ball, runner may advance at own risk.

@user-np8yh2ih5t

Ай бұрын

It’s not

A pitcher can throw the ball to any base. Just like like a runner can steal second and third or home. The person on first base ran to second so either way the throw is legal.

@Shaw_111

Ай бұрын

This is softball. They do not pick off like baseball. She was in the wind up to pitch and ball slipped out her hand. This is called an illegal pitch, Ball is called and runners may advance at own risk.

@paulfeasal6024

Ай бұрын

​@Shaw_111 I thought it was a ball. Not sure if they made it to second on time.

@garylewis1431

8 күн бұрын

It's not an illegal pitch. It's a pitch that missed the strike zone. Or as it's commonly called, a ball. Otherwise , you're right. Runner can go ince the pitch is released.

@babababad

7 күн бұрын

​@@Shaw_111 illegal pitch and DDB if intentional, ball and live if unintentional

The “deytoookhourjobbbs” vibe from the cameraman 😂

@surgeyibrahimovic5013

7 күн бұрын

I get “trump is racist” vibes from this comment

@brodiwheeler7583

5 күн бұрын

Well, he sucks as a cameraman… someone should relieve him of that job too!

@user-ug7lh5hf5t

3 күн бұрын

That's what I was thinking lol

The shortstop was so excited about the tag she's doing a little stutter-step dance lol

"Ball 4, take your base." If only...

Nah she thought someone would actually simp for her that's wild

That’s a damn good trick play!!

Ngl that shit definitely not legal but it should be 😂😂

@samrouth432

11 күн бұрын

There is no rule stating it’s illegal, the runner also left the bag early

@robertgadling7217

10 күн бұрын

This play is legal.

@hyperdrive6325

4 күн бұрын

@@robertgadling7217no it’s not lmfao😭

@user-oy7vo3cw9j

4 күн бұрын

@@hyperdrive6325 I hope u know that it is legal but it’s still called a ball it’s not like baseball in softball there is no “balk”

Might not be illegal, but it’s definitely NOT an elite trick play or a high IQ trick play. It’s actually pretty elementary. For one the entire play relies on the runner to attempt to steal second base after the ball is dropped in the vicinity of 2nd base. That’s very low probability. If you want to say it’s in case the runner steals, Instead of pitching just drop the ball “accidentally” which sounds good, but it’s incredibly complex and it’s highly unlikely to work.

You'd think that baserunner left early.

i’ve been playing softball for about 6 years now and one time back in like 10u the other teams pitcher did that (on accident of course) and it was a ball

this is basically a pick off move in baseball

This video is iconic

Since her reaction indicates it was deliberate, I must assume there is no “balk rule” or the rule is vastly different in softball, it would have to be, given how long it takes to pitch a ball. Anything I say would be a wild stab, but since they practiced it, and play wasn’t called dead immediately, I’m going to guess “legal”.

When a bad thing turns good

Lesson learned here, don't leave early. No it wasn't practiced, the pitcher has a "we'll crap" look on her face.

NO SUCH THING AS A BALK IN SOFTBALL

I have no clue about softball rules… but i absolutely love it!!!

Balk isn't a thing anywhere. It's entirely made up, just like an illegal pitch. No such thing. Everything is what it is, pay attention or you get tricked. No problem found

Softball pick-off play. Nicely done.

That should be considerd a ball and runner should be awarded 2 nd base,the pitcher didn't throw the ball to second base or short stop ? Her hand rotated to make the pitch thus the only player that could make the throw to second would be the catcher? Illegal pitch!!!😮

She didn't even try to go back

First off that runner was there way to fast there is no way she didn’t leave early

Ok if she was on the mound it’s illegal but if she wasn’t perfectly fine idk tho because I only play baseball

@paulfeasal6024

Ай бұрын

I could see this happening in softball but rarely in baseball. Mainly because of how they pitch. I thought this would be called a ball. And the person stealing second would be out. This also could be a foul. So regardless the person running to second wouldn't get second.

@butterscotch09

Ай бұрын

@@paulfeasal6024unless the umpires call it a balk

@greenmonster4918

6 күн бұрын

Softball doesn't have balks. It also did nothing to be an illegal pitch. Therefor it's a ball, and a caught stealing.

This is the kind of shit that if I pulled it would be illegal but if it happened to me it would be legal

That should be 110 hell 120% legal right there!!!

If the ball is dropped out of the pitcher's hand during the delivery of the pitch, then the ball is live until it rolls across the foul line, and the runners can run at their own risk. This is a legal play.

@drayker99

9 күн бұрын

Just curious what rolling across the foul line would have to do with it...?

@babababad

7 күн бұрын

​@@drayker99nothing. The ball is still live if it crosses the foul line. Maybe OP is thinking of baseball where a ball is only called if the pitch crosses the foul line.

@drayker99

7 күн бұрын

@@babababad that's kinda what I was getting at... Based on his logic a wild pitch that bounces and crosses the foul line without going over the plate would constitute a dead ball 😂...

Seems like a well executed trick play. If the runner was fast and they were going on the release of the ball, and it’s called a ball, why not? We should also consider the risk factor of throwing the ball into the outfield or an error which could advance that runner to third.

Runner is out for leaving base before ball is released by pitcher

in baseball the ball has to go to home plate (or near it if you suck like me) otherwise its a balk if the pitcher did not start their windup and stepped off to throw. but who am I to know, I only play baseball

@tayloryoung8146

14 күн бұрын

A balk is only in baseball bro. There's no such thing as a balk in softball, only an illegal pitch

@babababad

7 күн бұрын

In baseball the ball has to cross the foul line to count as a pitch.

If unintentional, it's legal. If intentional, it's illegal.

@Im.Yer.Huckleberry

6 күн бұрын

Incorrect on the second account. Incidentally, the base runner is the only one who performed an illegal action. She can't run before the ball leaves the pitcher's have. Softball pitching has some different rules than baseball. This will be called a ball against the pitcher and an out against the runner.

@JamesGmoneyBanks

6 күн бұрын

@@Im.Yer.Huckleberry opinions are like, well you know, you've probably been called one at least once in your life.

not sure the softball ruling but that would be a no pitch i baseball since it never crossed the foul lines.

Lol at first view I thought the runner slid 😂 I was like oh she has bad depth perception

Plot twist - the pitcher actually lost control of the ball. They just called it a trick play to avoid another embarrassing play in girls softball.

@heyfindcake7888

5 күн бұрын

Believe it

@edubbya

2 күн бұрын

hahahah

It is what it is... Just that simple!

If they practice this it's good for them. It's how you play the rules. But I will safe this does need to change for the sport because this is now going to trend as a way to face out the runner to get the out. Integrity is how the players and coach should conduct themselves.

After looking back at it, you easily hear the coach or a fan yell "Early!!" Insinuating the other team's runners had been leaving early on their steals. Clearly this is the case if the coach and pitcher decided to attempt this move. I don't think you can fault the pitcher if you're not going to make the runners follow any rules themselves.. all coach and pitcher did was put the ump in a dilemma lol what you wanna call this one Blue?!

GENIUS! Never seen that before. But, I'd have to say that is an illegal pitch. 🤔

@andrewforce6516

Күн бұрын

It seems baseball and softball rules are different. Baseball does not allow it..but softball does not have balks in their rules..I guess.

Cool play. In baseball it is a balk. Not up on softball rules.

How else do you get people out who try to stell second base?

@ajd2493

8 күн бұрын

Throw them out ? lol what

It has to be illegal. I don't know the rules of softball but she's making a move towards home plate so I can't see how that could be legal.

I played for the Orcutt Express, back in the GOOD OLE DAYS.... if you know then you KNOW lol but I remember doing this in 10u it's totally awesome and legal.

Can you imagine something this stupid being drawn up in baseball?

The batter left early either way

Great play😂

That would be an illegal pitch!

@greenmonster4918

6 күн бұрын

Please enlighten us.... We'll wait.

Legal in NFHS Softball

@mptr1783

7 күн бұрын

Everyone saying this is an "illegal pitch" are wrong. NFHS Rule 6-2 Art. 6 "When the ball slips from the pitchers hand during the backswing or forward motion, it is a pitch. Effect: Ball is awarded to the batter, and the ball remains in play and runners may advance with liability to be put out. A defensive player may immediately retrieve the ball as long as the batter had no opportunity to contact the pitch."

If it's illegal for the pitcher, shouldn't it be illegal for the runner? I could be wrong but I thought their pitch had to cross the plate before they could steal..

@babababad

7 күн бұрын

Runner can advance once the ball leaves the pitcher's hand.

The silly comedy routine that is baseball has entered softball huh

Ball 4 take or base!😂😂😂

Dead ball is the only thing that can get called here 🤷🏼‍♂️ anything else the runner would be out immediately

I mean in baseball i think it may be a balk. But idn if softballl has balks. Never herd one talked about so im thinking rules may b diff

I think they practiced myself the shortstop was on the ball in like half a second

It is completely legal as it can be ruled as a bad pitch.

So f in smooth!

I thought it slipped lol

I’m not familiar with softball rules as I play baseball and against popular opinion they are not the same sport. I do believe that there are so such things as balks in softball so it’s not a balk. Is it a pickoff or an illegal pitch I’m not sure, but it’s not a ball

I’ve never seen a softball balk before, guess you see something new every day lol

how do balks work in fast pitch softball?

Pretty sure that’s an illegal pitch. Don’t know much about softball but wouldn’t this be called a ball? Runner back to first?

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This should be illegal even though is was smooth ...softball rules are different then baseball

It would definitely be illegal in baseball. Not sure about softball.

Balk?

@falconsnake3124

6 күн бұрын

Not a thing in softball

If she went towards the plate the ball had to follow or it's a dead play

It’s an illegal pitch clearly. She didn’t maintain full control of the ball So it’s a ball and runner goes back to first. I don’t know why there is so much discussion about this. And the person saying left early is a dumb parent like always claiming the other team did something wrong.

I have no clue I don’t know the rules of softball but what I seen in the video I don’t think that was a play. That should’ve been allowed because it did look like she was pitching, but she threw it backwards instead of forward.

That should be an illegal pitch unless she wasn’t on the mound

It’s legal a pitch can throw to any person first base second base third base our Home plate legal

@Shaw_111

Ай бұрын

Wrong.

@fakename503

Ай бұрын

Think about it. If that's legal you could act like you're about to pitch then stop or pass to throw off the batter. It's illegal. Bad spirited too.

If there are No balks in softball, then this is just plain cheating and poor sportsmanship!!!

She did NOT plan that 🤔😖

The ball should have been declared dead when the runner left early. The runner is out and the actions by the pitcher and the fielders are irrelevant, as they occurred after the play was already over.

Pitcher started her motion to home plate. It's an illegal pitch.

This is COMPLETELY LEGAL! (Source: trust me bro)

Runners have to run with hits in softball right?

I would say that is something compared to a balk

I know nothing about women’s fast pitch softball so I think I’ll say what the rule should be even though I know it’s not right because I haven’t watched or paid attention for a second to this sport. Just read everyone else’s comment and you’ll see what I was going to say

Unfortunately the cameraman …

Awesome!

It’s just a called a ball. Ball stays live.

thats gotta be illegal

@guitarsquad5428

18 сағат бұрын

There are no balks in softball in baseball it would be the biggest balk of a lifetime

Nice Pick off move

In baseball that would be a bock but I’m not sure for softball

That should be a balk

Ball.......that simple.

Illegal Play, if done on purpose. There is rules for pitchers, & this DEFINITELY would be illegal. Weird how folks want Bend Rules to get an Advantage. I bet they're team ISN'T good neither😂

Illegal pitch

Is there such thing as a balk in softball?

Was her foot on the rubber

First one needs help asap

People please. Ball. Reset.

Just introduce balks to softball, problem solved.