Regardless how update 18/19 turn out, it’s just nice to see FDev hasn’t given up.

@agingerbeard

5 ай бұрын

*on PC players

@SpartasEdge

5 ай бұрын

Well, it could be the only thing they have going that could make them any money at the moment.

@SpartasEdge

5 ай бұрын

​@agingerbeard So this update isn't coming to console!? I hope that's not the case..

@ninz_0

5 ай бұрын

@@SpartasEdge we just say that based on past patterns, i dont think we know yet but its very possible that it wont

@commander_fu6457

5 ай бұрын

Well that's cool and all but at this point I have given up. They always promise a lot and deliver disappointingly little. No reason to believe them this time.

I would love to see a comeback story for ED..

@heyspookyboogie644

5 ай бұрын

Amen

@lunamaria1048

5 ай бұрын

Comeback? ED had a nice long life cycle and was a financial success for FDev . All great things must come to an end😊

@arczer2519

5 ай бұрын

@@lunamaria1048 end will be when we map the Galaxy 😊

@zrbytegmail

5 ай бұрын

With rumours rife that starcitizen is finally going to launch but will be feature incomplete in 2025 it would be nice if its main competition was a reinvigorated Elite dangerous.

@SpartasEdge

5 ай бұрын

Me too. I would love an excuse to come back to it.

God if they could make Elite a comeback on next gen consoles i would be in heaven

@Bramshevik

5 ай бұрын

We live in hope, and dare to dream

@travislevitt7191

5 ай бұрын

No doubt agreed indeed

@jasonfields9589

5 ай бұрын

I would love this on next gen consoles, but I’m not getting my hopes up

@winchester_gamer82

5 ай бұрын

hopefully we can but hope

@methamphetamememcmeth3422

5 ай бұрын

​@@Bramshevik So we wish, so we hope - Peter O'Toole probably

honestly my favorite part about getting new ships is The Pilot doing his elite dangerous ship reviews again

@aitoluxd

5 ай бұрын

Same. Hopefully

@aavvv_

5 ай бұрын

He retired his channel a few months back

@Derkiboi

5 ай бұрын

Or yamiks

@Garryck-1

5 ай бұрын

Hell yes!

@Garryck-1

5 ай бұрын

@@aavvv_ - What?

Elite Dangerous not abandoned? Let’s hope they’ll deliver

@Patrickf5087

5 ай бұрын

Why they haven't delivered before

@StimkySkunko

5 ай бұрын

Again, again and again, people keep falling for the same old trick.

@lioraja9951

5 ай бұрын

with delay due to banks holiday

@Neo-vz8nh

5 ай бұрын

It was never abadoned.

@StimkySkunko

5 ай бұрын

@@xenocrimsonExactly. It's so depressing to see.

Cautiously optimistic

@petewilcox3354

5 ай бұрын

VERY CAUTIOUS...at least thats how I am approaching it.

@rafacurtinhascmdrrafacurti480

5 ай бұрын

Same here!!

@CoffeeFiend1

5 ай бұрын

I'm steadily advancing in a dense overlapping shield column careful to not expose any gaps in my optimism. Lies, false hope and abject ineptitude rain from the skies upon us.

@aznp33nRocket

5 ай бұрын

See, I’m setting the bar soooo low, that no matter what happens, I’ll not be disappointed yet again. I truely hope I’m proven completely wrong and the updates make me the fool. I love this game so much and want it to be the come back we all want!

@jakebatty530

5 ай бұрын

People been saying that about updates for years and pretty much every time fdev disappoints Not optimistic at all

so frontier realized their boat was sinking and finally decided to starting using a bucket to bail out the water. Extremely Cautious on these updates, nice to see they are finally making changes to a game I spent a lot of time in, but just not sure its going to be enough to get me back into it.

@dirkniedfeld7411

5 ай бұрын

the boat elite dangerous has sunken some years ago. There is no development anymore. Last update was odyssey some years ago.

@extremeencounter7458

5 ай бұрын

Figured after Starfield released, they’d either fold out or settle in and start making new shit

@foldionepapyrus3441

5 ай бұрын

@@dirkniedfeld7411 Sounds like you may be wrong, these sound like development. And if they are actually making powerplay meaningful and engaging that will be a fix many in the community have been demanding almost since day 1... That might just put enough life into the universe to get lots of lapsed players back, and actually make the deep and rather good bits of the background sim and lore get dragged into a meainingful part of the game that all players will be somewhat interested in - a system has just declared for an imperial faction, so imperial slave demand skyrockets etc..

@OverlordKyro

5 ай бұрын

cope@@foldionepapyrus3441

@JOHNWICK-do6ub

5 ай бұрын

​@@dirkniedfeld7411 FACTS This GAME has the Potential to Be one THE GREATEST GAMES OUT THERE BUT THEY DIDN'T INVEST THE EARNED MONEY TO CREATE MORE CONTENT LIKE ADDING MORE SHIPS CREATING YOUR OWN PLANET WITH BASE FROM SCRATCH... 500 NEW NEBULAS WITH DIFFERENT COLORS 100 DIFFERENT ALIEN TYPES .... LANDSCAPES WITH ALIEN JUNGLES WHERE U CAN WALK WITH A SPACE SUIT N A GUN WITH DIFFERENT ALIEN ANIMALS ROAMING AROUND LIKE AVATAR .... .... IT TRULY HAS THE POTENTIAL BUT THEY AREN'T DOING ANYTHING.... THEY JUST LEFT N THE GAME DIED SLOWLY...

I dearly miss this game. My life hasn't allowed me the time to get back to it. This update certainly makes it all the more tempting.

@TallCottonWood5262

5 ай бұрын

Don't bother, it's shite.

Ngl the that new ship looks like an SR-71 Blackbird. I want it!

@RestrictedHades

5 ай бұрын

Kinda looks like the Zeus from star citizen which is funny since they copied the asp from ED

@achillesworks

5 ай бұрын

@@RestrictedHades It was a homage to ED :D

@QuotidianStupidity

5 ай бұрын

@@achillesworksjust like the vulture was a homage to Eve!

@Soundwave142

5 ай бұрын

I get the impression that it is a more combat focus variant of the Python.

@judz567

5 ай бұрын

Looks nowt like an SR-71.

In Elite (1984) the Thargoids were a rare but ever-present threat. IMO that should continue, specifically in witchspace (sic) or occasional USS.

@Evios62

5 ай бұрын

I hope they leave Thargoids in some systems. I've stopped playing because I didn't have enough time to engineer my ships and fight goids, but if the new updates are good enough, I'd love to be able to fight some

@QuestGamerable

5 ай бұрын

I wish there is two types of thargoids, the ones that stalk and scare you without any fight and the ones that come to fight

@dom-ct6ie

5 ай бұрын

yes it should become no longer a threat, but still something that is present, and that goes for all aspects. this is coming from someone who hasnt had the chance to touch this content... i would be so disappointed if they just threw it all away

@semibiotic

5 ай бұрын

In Elite'84 you could defeat Thargoid destroyer with stock pulse laser (at least in Speccy port). In ED you need to grind, outfit and master to fight Targoids. However, EDH/Legacy lacks of real threat from Targoids (not playing EDO/Live, so can't say anything about current state). Also, in Elite I, you had to fight pirates, and it sometimes was annoying. In ED you could evade them, instead, and fly with no weapon. That also good and not quite good thing in the same time.

@TheTitanFind

5 ай бұрын

They did specifically state it was the "culmination" of the Thargoid war. Not the end. Thargoids will still be present in the game.

Wild that I was just considering earlier today, for the first time in years, about reinstalling the game and just flying around a bit. I lost interest completely when odyssey came out, but I really do miss flying around the black in VR. Just funny that only a few hours later I hear about the biggest update in years (probably since almost last time I played).

@ninob.2073

5 ай бұрын

SAME!

I'm just happy to hear that they actually care about the game and are willing to make changes to give players what they've been asking for. Elite deserves so much better than what it's gotten these last few years.

ship interiors + navigable ship interiors during flight would change the entire trajectory of Frontier and Elite Dangerous as a whole.

@Kestrel1971

5 ай бұрын

Huge amount of work for zero gameplay value. Yes, it would be cool to walk around the ships, but there's no game loop.

@TheLoneLlama

5 ай бұрын

@@Kestrel1971You’re making a huge assumption. In star citizen it provides a lot to the experience saying it wouldn’t be able to add anything to Elite is just disingenuous.

@pickle7769

5 ай бұрын

@@Kestrel1971 considering the itemization in odyssey, I don’t think that’s true. I appreciate the thought, but I’d argue the opposite is actually true. Especially when you have 10+ minutes of in-game travel time. The last thing you want in game development is integral pieces of the simulation forcing players to have nothing to do during “down time”. Inventory management, resource management, etc. can all be looped into navigable ship interiors i.e: encouraging player interaction during long down time (travel time in system)

@cartercaden278

5 ай бұрын

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@alexanderlane

5 ай бұрын

Zero gameplay value in terms of credits? Sure. Gameplay value in terms of me feeling more invested and actually playing more? Absolutely@@Kestrel1971

New ships are just a nice to have that will keep people busy for a few weeks. What we need is a deeper game, new gameplays, new environnements and more immersion.

@DavidKnowles0

5 ай бұрын

An we are getting that with a whole new feature in a update at the end of the year.

@mike_lowndes

5 ай бұрын

What was inferred in the stream was that the new ‘variants’ will be designed with particular purposes in mind.

@underleft

5 ай бұрын

I was never on board with new ships. There's already too many ships that do the same thing, I don't need a new one to engineer. There's nothing to do in this game after 10 years. The Thargoid "war" was useless and stakeless. I uave all the ships and money I could ever spend.

@underleft

5 ай бұрын

​@@DavidKnowles0Do you mean the new feature revamp that was supposed to come out a year ago? I wouldn't hold your breath.

@I_LCARS_I

5 ай бұрын

​@@underleftI could not disagree with you more. New ships means more diversity. The more ships there the better it will be.

Finally! New ships! I would love to see another advanced race that we could trade with, battle , buy ships from.

@philipduttonlescorlett

2 ай бұрын

Yes. There are ways, even if they cannot change or add new things, that they could spice up the game with and this is a perfect example.

Thanks for this Ant. To me this is very positive (far more so than I expected) I think I can even feel a pulse :). Lets hope they deliver on these promises and who knows even reconnecting with the players like they were in the beginning, back then and even up to Frontier'17 there was a definite camaraderie between us. (Anybody remember the Community organised Pizza delivery to Fdevs office while we waited on an update being pushed?) . Im not 100% sure the updates on offer are enough to bring me back to the game but who knows.

Not gonna lie , after over 3000 hours in I give up on Elite after Odyssey launch. I loved the game , sadly i felt that frontier just didn’t get the massive potential their own game had. I hope this will be a new dawn and I’m pumped with this news o7

@Tater_Poutine

5 ай бұрын

I haven't played since planetary landing on xbox..

@HCforLife1

5 ай бұрын

I liked Oddysey. But tbh - dissapointed that atmospheric is basically non-atmospheric with some skybox. I would love to see normal atmospheric planets/surfaces

@ardaghion

5 ай бұрын

I'm the same, I went through the Odyssey beta and left soon after it launched. FDEV has done a lot since then to improve the game engine, but there seems to be so many potential features they didn't consider. In addition, there were just so many things I started to hate about ED. I hated the core mining minigame, it was dumb that you had no control over the detonation timing. I hate that all the walkable stations looked exactly alike. I wanted nothing to do with the Thargoids. I wanted the org that bought your system scans to offer deep space scanning missions that could lead to missions to discover something, anything. I thought extensive life on airless planets was unscientific, along with thick dust clouds and lightning in space. I wanted my Dolphin to be used for repeatable shuttle missions like a bus serivice. Oh, and why are humans in the future such terrible people? I eventually switched over to X4: Foundations, in many ways a better game but still not without issues. I would love a game that combines some of the best of both games in one. Maybe Elite: Foundations.

@luciusesox1luckysox570

5 ай бұрын

Them not getting the potential the game had is my biggest computer gaming disappointment and my first computer was a C64 !

@TheKianykin

5 ай бұрын

I felt the6 don't understand what we were wanting with fps

They also promised ship interiors on their roadmap at one point, don’t forget.

@Darkdiver28

5 ай бұрын

You mean the old roadmap, when Elite was in Alpha? Yeah, they already said they wont do that. They were adamant in the prelaunch Odyssey streams that, “ship interiors have no gameplay value”. In other words, the engine cant handle it or too lazy to do it.

@walawala-fo7ds

5 ай бұрын

Kickstarter promise actually. Ships interiors in mind

@ioritenshi

5 ай бұрын

​@@Darkdiver28the one they delivered just right up until after ice planets update

@Karackal

5 ай бұрын

As a Star Citizen player: first time?

@Ebalosus

5 ай бұрын

@@KarackalStar Citizen is at least working towards making its promises a reality, same with Yes Woman's Land.

I still think that ED has the most beautiful nebulas in gaming right behind Space Engine. That's the main reason why I got this game lmfaoo

@tacticalmattress

5 ай бұрын

It's great for space exploration, but pretty insane. The furthest I've gone is Colonia and Sag A (core), but I visited many of the Nebulae on the way, also basically every one around the bubble. Including crab and bubble nebula. There's a planetary Nebula not very far from Colonia with a massive black hole at it's center. There are maniacs who have gone to Beagle Point. More than once.

@thinkingshobe

5 ай бұрын

I’m one of those maniacs whose been to Beagle more than once. I truly do love the views and aesthetics of the game and it’s the main reason I play. The trip to Beagle Point really isn’t worth it unless you wanna be “in the club” truthfully.

@PowerofRock24

5 ай бұрын

@@thinkingshobe Why wouldn't you want to be in the club?

@thinkingshobe

5 ай бұрын

@@PowerofRock24 It's a whole lot of work for something really arbitrary. I love exploring and would probably do it again, but I don't think it's really reasonable to recommend it to anyone else on my part.

@PowerofRock24

5 ай бұрын

@@thinkingshobe You could say the same for Mount Everest, but I don't disagree, the space madness is real out there.

Ive been really itching to get back into my krait phantom for a hot minute. This gives me motivation to do so! Hell yeah about time we get some additional ships!

I would love a good reason to set up my VR and hotas setup and dive back into Elite for a bit. We shall see.

@0LoneTech

5 ай бұрын

So would I, but I haven't heard anything hinting they'd even do cursory testing of VR, let alone fixing.

@smoov5046

5 ай бұрын

I loved my vr experience in elite, absolutely unmatched. My first thargoid experience was in vr, my lord, it felt like a life changing moment. I was so excited. That being said, after a while, the vr started to alter my perception of my limbs outside of the game because it does not register your arms moving within the headset. Outside of the game, it would feel like my arms were detached from my body, and it felt terrible. I have an oculus rift-s and quest 2, collecting dust because of tgis. VR is great, but it can have some harmful side effects of your not careful.

@bristuhan1966

5 ай бұрын

Elite Dangerous in VR with HCS Voice Packs was the best space simulation ever made. I loved playing it. I started playing in 2016 when they released power play. That aspect of the game had so much potential but FDev f'ed that up so badly and only a small percentage of the player-base got into it. Their inability to fully incorporate it into the game was the first sign of their incompetence. Despite that, I totally loved exploration and the BGS. Sadly, like many others, they lost me with Odyssey.

@nzavon

5 ай бұрын

Cross fingers but don't hold your breath 😅

@Kissamiess

5 ай бұрын

Heh, the only reason I'm looking to upgrade my gfx card this year is that I have to jump through too many hoops to get decent frames on my current one when playing Elite in VR, and I can't use my virtual second monitors when I optimise like that. Otherwise it would still be perfectly adequate for everything I do.

Please god let us sit center console on that new python!!!

@heartstar8005

5 ай бұрын

Doesn't look like it. Zoom in on the canopy. Looks like two seats up front like the adder.

@moon9light

5 ай бұрын

Nah, it's what makes the Python different...cockpit looks similar

@kristopfer5788

5 ай бұрын

@@moon9light sure sure, totally get that, BUT this is a “new” python, I could dream! I’ll even settle for off center but not feeling off center, you know what I mean?

@khaitomretro

5 ай бұрын

No.

@moon9light

5 ай бұрын

@kristopfer5788 well, we shall see... I don't begrudge you wanting it, others have said it's why they don't fly the original Python.

If Elite had way more planet variety, way more mission and fps mission variety and had ship interiors with boarding missions, it wouldn't just be one of the best space games ever, it could be one of the very best games ever made.

@jonofitz11

4 ай бұрын

Rested on their laurels massively. I stopped playing ages ago, not enough ships, not enough to do on planets, engineering is grindy, the fact there was only 1 SRV in the game for about 6 years was fucking stupid. I used to really love this game, man.

@Discovery2024-rn8kn

4 ай бұрын

But you just described SC. FDEV can rot in hell, any mention of ED flaws or suggestions how to improve the game is an instant ban on their forums and on Stream. They employ 24/7 moderators for instant bans. Notice on Steam it's always the same posters, with a few newbie every now and then

I'd like to see exploration expanded ... something like, (after adding a bit more procedural life to some planets), if you scan a planet and find it contains life, you can then go to the surface, collect genetic samples and sell them raw, or have a module on your ship that would act a s genetic sequencer that you could sequence the DNA, and sell that data for more money than just the genetic samples.

Im skeptical, it will take a lot to bring people that got let down for so long

@johnnyhshify

5 ай бұрын

What about the recent new players that got let down post Odyssey? I'm one of them

@ThaumaturgistGuard

5 ай бұрын

@@johnnyhshify me too :|

Grind or exploring empty worlds or repetitive tasks. Does new ship change anything? No. Maybe a new powerplay model does make a change but the bubble remains too much static.

@I_LCARS_I

5 ай бұрын

Please play Star Citizen instead and wait 20 more years for it to get somewhere.

@johnnyhshify

5 ай бұрын

Exactly

@I_LCARS_I

5 ай бұрын

@@johnnyhshify SC fanboy over here. Just wait another 10 years for SC to be on par with Elite.

@jonofitz11

4 ай бұрын

​@@I_LCARS_I lmao the guys right, why you being so defensive? Wake up and smell the coffee lil bro

Now I just have the song that goes "War~ is~ over~" in my mind, so glad to see the game will get good content soon !!!

Thanks for the heads-up! Sounds good, will def keep an eye out for those updates. Hope the game can regrab my attention

I'll come back to Elite when they deliver the ship interiors.

@sentinel2199

5 ай бұрын

What do you actually expect to DO inside your ship? I mean actual gameplay? It seems like the kind of thing which would be cool for a while, but then the novelty would wear off when you realise you can't do anything new, and it just slows you down.

@Henkkanen

5 ай бұрын

@@sentinel2199 Should be basic feature with space legs, comes without saying.

@sentinel2199

5 ай бұрын

@@Henkkanen Not any more than landing on planets with atmospheres should come without saying. Not to mention that was present in Frontier: Elite 2, unlike space legs.

@gareth6972

3 ай бұрын

@@sentinel2199 I mean...landing on planets with atmospheres should come without saying. Can't land on any planet that looks remotely interesting, but the featureless dead rocks with nothing to do on them? Oh, we can land on those all day long!

They should focus on fixing existing ships, the Anaconda still has floating textures when the landing gear is extracted.

@Thorned_Rose

5 ай бұрын

And adding visual damage across all ships

@TheTitanFind

5 ай бұрын

Flown mine for over a year. Haven't noticed this. Whereabouts are they?

@happyspaceinvader508

4 ай бұрын

and the landing gear clips through the ground on landing when it does that (slightly silly) bounce.

This looks really amazing and finally a reason to upgrade my HOTAS, I run this game only in VR mode and with my Quest 3 it has been butter smooth and simply mind blowing, I am so happy this game is getting the love it deserves.

I for one, think it might be interesting to see what a DBX Mk-II might be capable of... *LOVE* my DBX!

My warthog is hungry for new elite content. I hope it doesn't get disappointed.

For the devs, wishing them and everyone at Frontier great success. I think we'll see growth in player base.

@vladcrow4225

5 ай бұрын

Too little, too late.

@I_LCARS_I

5 ай бұрын

​@@vladcrow4225I totally disagree. I think it is better for you to go and stay at Star Citizen and wait for 20 more years for the game to get somewhere.

@vladcrow4225

5 ай бұрын

@@I_LCARS_I Well, once I hijacked someones Scam Citizen account and tried it out. Pretty much the same shit, just more bells and whistles.

I’m brand new to elite (I started playing 5 days ago) and I’m shocked this game isn’t more popular. I’ve never played something that’s given a bigger sense of wonder before

I recently bought a HOTAS for Elite as well. Trying to get into the game again. Let's keep our hopes up :)

A powerplay update could be interesting. New ships also sound nice. I'll believe it once it's live though. Frontier has gone radio silent about supposedly upcoming stuff too many times to get my hopes up.

@DVHeld

5 ай бұрын

The storyline involving leaders changing is related to this. Current powerplay doesn't allow for the Federation president to change, for example. You needed an overhaul to allow for that possibility, which is now a reality. In fact, I was wondering about this ever since Hudson and Mahon were reelected in an exceptional way in the lore. And now that the Federal presidency was about to actually change hands, I was wondering how they'd implement it.

If the new powerplay system is good, I'd consider coming back. It gave it a point to play.

@DavidKnowles0

5 ай бұрын

I suspect it will inherit many of the systems from the Thargoids War.

@underleft

5 ай бұрын

What's powerplay gonna do? What difference does it make who owns what?

@The_Norse_Hunk

5 ай бұрын

@@underleft Then what's gaming in general? It's a rhetorical question you're asking. You work your ass off engineering all these ships for what? You can't show them off. Pvp? Ok... (a joke). In power play you can actually use your fleet to execute missions. It's just another thing to do man...

2024 is the 40th Anniversary for Elite, so makes sense to give it some love. Looking forward to the new content, been playing Elite on one platform or another since 1984.

As someone just coming back to elite its nice to see some content outside the thargoid war, I was getting a little nervous seeing how much i would need to grind to join in those efforts.

Cautious optimism... Very cautious

So there is hope after all. That ship looks like the F19 from Microprose btw!

I think they should add a more involved RPG component to the game. A game within the game where you could work on your character as well. I could see maybe modder involvement with the creation of settlements and quests, adventuring in and around settlements ala Skyrim.

I really hope we'll get at least 1 update that's not a flop

@LaepsynPaepsyn

4 ай бұрын

Just to give another viewpoint, I never understood the criticism on the updates. I just keep flying away and enjoy the vastness of the galaxy, hoping for further updates so Elite can become even more amazing.

@gareth6972

3 ай бұрын

@@LaepsynPaepsyn That's probably why you never understood the criticism. If you're happy to just aimlessly fly around then I'm sure it's great. But for those of us wanting stuff to actually do that feels like it was worth doing, not so much unfortunately.

How could I catch up with the thargoid war, with all of it. I haven't played since the beginning of the war and I would love to take up ED again, before these new big updates to get a feel of nostalgia.

@christopherbutterfield8096

5 ай бұрын

The anti xeno boys n girls have the Thargoids on the ropes, you can play as normal and get involved if you want to no worries.

You had me at "end of the Thargoid war".

@loganandrews6822

5 ай бұрын

Me to I got over the thargoid stuff a while ago. I don't think I've played since the start of covid, maybe a little before.

Looks great, sounds great. Can’t wait to jump back in to ED

I can't believe it! I would have put money on it that it was going to be put on the shelf by Frontier. I'm SO glad that I've been provided wrong and that they finally seem to be getting their act together and doing something with Elite which is and has the potential to be an incredible game. I, for one, don't understand why Frontier doesn't do what Bethesda has done and open it up to the player community to create mods, ships, etc.

@spoolyz0296

5 ай бұрын

dude its just ships chill out

@carchofa3526

5 ай бұрын

We'll have to wait in order to see what this update really means.

I really want landing on earth like worlds complete with starports, that is the one thing that would make me interested in logging in again. The end of the Thargoid war is a good thing though I will admit.

@CoffeeFiend1

5 ай бұрын

innovation and effort would be required though. Not Frontiers forte as of late. One excuse they'll use is oh we've been using this engine since pre-2012 it's really old now we don't have the graphical utility for it. It's bollocks though.... Graphics aren't everything. If the gameplay and mechanics were sound it would fulfil a long time promise.

@underleft

5 ай бұрын

They can't even get decent performance of 7 buildings on a barren planet. You think they can implement Earth Likes?

hmmm, guessing the next 3 ships are a faction ship, like imperial krait, or guardian/thargoid based on atleast 1, maybe finally a build-a-ship with a medium grind or some funds to unlock parts.(all sizes) or even.... ship interiors(small/medium only)

Haven't played since December of 2022. This is all good news, I look forward to coming back.

The largest downfall for Elite in my opinion,, IS the abiity to walk on to your ship, Walk around the ship and take off, as well as landing and walking off your ship. With a game like Star Citizen where all this is possible , Frontier has to try to step up to this level off immersion. I love the game, but the missing element sways me to Star Citizen more.

When expectations are low, it is hard to disappoint. However I feel this is too little too late.

@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034

5 ай бұрын

I agree. This would've been fantastic in 2019....... Now we shouldve been on thick atmosphere worlds, comprehensive ship interiors, more surface activities, EVA activities etc. This is the very definition of too little too late. I agree fully!

@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034

5 ай бұрын

That being said though, it seems like we're getting a Q4 update that they haven't revealed any info whatsoever on. The last time they did that it was actually a paid expansion called Horizons which was massive. So, hopefully, one or more of what I mentioned are featured in that. Just one of those would bring me back for 100s of hours, potentially up to a 1000 depending on how well its done and executed.

Certainly did not expect anything to happen to ED anymore, but I'm very hyped!

Wow ty for the info i am going to install again, made need a new flight stick

The old powerplay mechanics was impressive, and a major reason to keep playing after you got all your favorite ships upgraded. So im really interested to see if they actually managed to make it even better..!

I'm just getting back into Elite after many years away. I picked up Odyssey and have a new pc coming. Looking forward to all these updates. Thanks for all the info Obsidian! ☕😁

One of the biggest issues with powerplay is the biggest influential groups in Elite have never had any clarification whatsoever if powerplay actually achieves anything meaningful in-game in terms of mechanics. It was whispered for years that powerplay was a potential avenue for unlocking secret missions and acquiring unknown permits but we've never had anything to back it up other than a very vague statement many years ago which was basically there's missions out there that no one has ever seen before. Semantic twaddle because they're random generation? Or something actually new?

- Crew & Crewmanagement - Ship Interior - Quest lines with voice acting - Fleshed out ecosystems This is what we need If ED doesn't come up with actual good stuff and not just the millionth text to expodump some thargoid battle, i'm never gona install it again. As of now, i've stopped playing years ago and so did many others and I hope Frontier actually works this time instead of enjoying their Arx Money

Im still on horizons because of the game downgrades in the updated version.

@markvenediktov6930

5 ай бұрын

yeah no u Must go pc or nvidia thingy if u wanna keep playng the game with new stuff

@Dextrovix-42

5 ай бұрын

Same, although I'm wondering if these updates such as PP will still apply to Horizons and the BGS that runs behind... I play in VR so I'm sure as heck not bothering with the Oddity client!

@C.I...

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, performance in Odyssey is disgusting, especially since it looks worse - the planet generation particularly.

@DarkonFullPower

5 ай бұрын

Assuming you mean Legacy Horizons. Live Horizons IS Odyssey's engine. If you are running that, you are, for all intents and purposes, running Odyssey.

@C.I...

5 ай бұрын

@@DarkonFullPower I haven't played since Odyssey came out and the split that happened then - have they removed the normal version since? If so I'm not coming back, since I want the game to run at 60fps.

I'm cautiously optimistic about all this, better news than expected for sure!

I'll be interested to see how Elite pans out this year. I haven't played it for quite a while, but recently treated myself to a Tobii V5 and it played very well with this addition. Bought mainly for MSFS2020, but if Elite gets a good overhaul I could see myself going back.

You mentioned the spoiler , before the spoiler alert :-D Aside from that; looking forward to getting back into ED .

Fingers crossed there might actually be gameplay beyond a grind

@heyspookyboogie644

5 ай бұрын

Woah woah woah, let’s not get too carried away. This is still FDev we’re talking about. lol 😅

@ioritenshi

5 ай бұрын

the grind IS the gameplay

@sam23696

5 ай бұрын

Actually the new powerplay will make attaining faction specific components and ships even harder. I guarantee it

@DavidKnowles0

5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprise if they disappear. @@sam23696

@barking_mad6649

5 ай бұрын

The grind is your choice. 🙄

Can't wait for these ships, but I also am cautious. my dream would be Ship interiors, but i have no hope for that anymore.

@Patrickf5087

5 ай бұрын

Why do you need them?

@ChaosDesigned

5 ай бұрын

Why do we need character models? Or ships at all? Wh y not just point and click @@Patrickf5087

@phadley

5 ай бұрын

@@Patrickf5087 My Immersion, but said in @TheYamiks voice

@heyspookyboogie644

5 ай бұрын

@@Patrickf5087so you can relax and enjoy the view from the anaconda observation deck. But seriously, it would definitely help make ships feel more distinct if you saw the design language carried on throughout the ship rather than just the exterior/ cockpit.

@rocketfacemcgee2828

5 ай бұрын

So many game play options you could do with ship interiors. Manual repairs/upgrades to modules, loading cargo, bossing your hairy co-pilot around

Subscribed after few years of pause... and let those news fly in... o7

Lucky, I still have a few slots available. Welcome new ships!

Less grind, more fun!

@ObsidianAnt

5 ай бұрын

A less grindy Powerplay v2 would be great. :)

@lashed1980

5 ай бұрын

I dont mind the grind, oooh that rhymes... I just want more focused additions to the current play styles

You know what? This is surprising! I think this is actually a good sign. And I’m always first to be ultra critical of Elite and FDEV. Power Play always seemed super cool and engaging in theory. In practice, it just wasn’t done right. Very interesting, indeed.

@underleft

5 ай бұрын

It's just going to be the Thargoid war mechanic.

@I_LCARS_I

5 ай бұрын

​@@underleftAnd you know this how? Source??

We've been down that road years ago and multiple times, let's see what they actually do and deliver, and especially HOW.

@johnnyhshify

5 ай бұрын

Too late, ED simps over at Steam forums have already stared buying ARXs before actual release.

Sounds very cool. I'm looking forward to returning to the black. Hopefully, they will deliver.

It's been 5 years. 5 years since a new ship has been added. To a spaceship sim game. I hope that timeframe doesn't repeat and we have to wait another 5 years before we get some more.

@nankam

5 ай бұрын

Elite would be in a much better state today if they had just made 1-2 new ships a year instead of wasting dev time on Odyssey when they didn't have the dev resources to do a good job implementing space legs. The game at its core has always been about grinding to get a new ship and then grinding to upgrade it.

What would make ED a million times better is base building: Build your own base on any land able planet in the galaxy and setup your own ship factory and part shops as well as a market.

@aerotanguero9580

5 ай бұрын

Agreed but particularly if they could provide lush green vegetation strewn planets with blue seas (like our own) on which you could find your own ideal spot for such a base.

@nobodyimportant2470

5 ай бұрын

The problem with base building is the same as with Fleet Carriers. Everyone will want one and it will make a mess of navigating popular systems. A solution to this would be making fleet carriers and bases only available to your wing/squadron unless you pay for public listing. This will give a money sink for those who want to show off to everyone while allowing players to own one without it going poof if they fall behind on payments.

@todydn

5 ай бұрын

​@@aerotanguero9580ummm you do know elite dangerous is the milkyway right like theres defo water based planets and you can even go to earth if you have horizons you can land on em too i believe theres even models of life forms althought you cant interact w them i dont think

@saunder5

5 ай бұрын

@@todydn nah u can only land on planets/moons without atmospheres or with very thin atmospheres. earth-like planets and any planets with an atmospheric density over (i think) 0.1 earth atmospheres are not landable in horizons or odyssey.

@bigd8219

5 ай бұрын

Yeah. Build your own base, then grind for 40+ hours to improve one door. Like they did with weapons and suits. Thanks, but no thanks.

Elite Dangerous needs a bit less unrealistic parts if it wants to people to like the game. Build bases/outposts, creatures and stuff. Yeah, it breaks immersiveness, but that would make the game much more interesting. It will be like realistic version of No Man's Sky.

I have been waiting for something to draw me back into Elite! Hoping these updates will do just that! :)

Surely it's time to play the Raxxla card soon...

@fistsofsnake5475

5 ай бұрын

@@theMedicatedCitizen no mather what Raxlla would be in wouldn't meet expectations because after all this time, so many teories expectations are higher than towers in imperial senat

@elixwhitetail

5 ай бұрын

Raxxla is and has always been the friends we made along the way. Frontier can prove me wrong anytime but I'm convinced that it's been marketing fluff and a little white lie to encourage players to get out there and explore the galaxy. With the lack of concrete hints, they've asked us to find a needle in a field of haystacks that stretches from London to San Francisco, the long way (across Europe, Asia, and the Pacific). If it existed in the game, what would it take to get Frontier to reveal hints about it that they've held off this long? It would've been an obvious rescue lever after Odyssey completely blew it, but total radio silence tells me it doesn't exist.

I really wish they would introduce role-based ships. Similar to Eve Online, they could have an additional internal slot that only supports a specific type of module with a global bonus to its stats. As it stands, there is no reason to go back to smaller ships as they have no purpose once you can afford a bigger ship. It could be a ship that provides a fleet bonus to tracking which would mean they would need to be prioritised. I raised these a few years ago on their forum, but nope.

@ethanowen159

5 ай бұрын

"no purpose to go back to smaller ships" speak for yourself, in combat roles the small ships are all fantastic to come back to and are hyper maneuverable compared to even the med combat ships

@Monody512

5 ай бұрын

The game used to have this in the form of the restricted slots on Saud Kruger ships. Aaand… it sucked. They got rid of it because forcing those ships into such a specific role with an arbitrary lockout wasn't fun. At least when combat ships suck at exploration it feels like a fairly organic result of their stats. (Ignoring the fact that military compartments still exist…) I'm guessing you're a trader and/or a Horizons player if you view small ships as useless? Small ships excel at exploration, especially in Odyssey. Speaking of Odyssey: Small ships are the meta for Odyssey missions. Skilled combat pilots value small ships for their extreme speed and maneuverability. Even mining has a sweet spot in the medium range because large ships can often take longer to fill the holds of than most players have free continuous time.

@simonknibbs5867

5 ай бұрын

@@Monody512 When i say small ships, i am talking the Eagle sized. If I could play just using the Eagle, that would be fine. I don't see have having an additional slot for one module would be restrictive.

@simonknibbs5867

5 ай бұрын

So for example, the Eagle could have a hardwired ECM where you can use chaff but it doesn't require ammo. It would be a power cost.

@Monody512

5 ай бұрын

@@simonknibbs5867 Ah, so it's not really the _small_ ships you're referring to, but the _cheap_ ships that are overshadowed by their more expensive counterparts. Your idea could work, but it's worth noting that with enough engineering and masochism, you can already make any ship work. :P More seriously: Nearly every ship in the game has a niche it fills just based on its stats and attributes, even the cheap ships. The Eagle MkII has the fastest inertial turning rate in the game, allowing it to fly circles around other ships with the right pilot. The Sidewinder MkI is the smallest, allowing it to fit into places other ships can't. The Hauler has the lowest hull mass and can be optimized into a fantastic Bubble shuttle. Even the Asp Scout has something: the fastest supercruise turning speed in the game, making it theoretically the best at evading interdictions.

Thank you for this video! I think I am coming back to the game this year. :)

I wonder what kind of amazing grind all this new stuff will be behind...

I'd like to see more variety in planetary environments to encourage the exploration aspect and of course flying around over the properly inhabited planets with atmospheres would be great too!

@Wylie288

5 ай бұрын

Id like to see the variety we used to have

I hinestly thought wed were on elites death rattle years now. But new ships more contents etc im sooooo happy. If they deliver, and keep it up this game is going straight back to the top of my list

@underleft

5 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that the Thargoid "war" was "the biggest feature update yet!". And they have even less staff and money now. I wouldn't hold your breath.

I usually like to watch you and Yamiks for Elite. Your hopeful optimism and Yamiks more pessimistic approach usually help to get a good picture of what is going on. We will see what will happen at the end.

Im actually super pumped for new variations of existing ships.

My first thought is This is Incredible!! New Ships??!!! My second thought is, The Grind. I dont have the time to grind like i did before. Elite is a game i keep trying to love, but i just feel it asks too much of my time.

DO NOT GIVE UP, FRONTIER. These updates will bring me back to the game.

@wiser3754

5 ай бұрын

Numbers speak louder than words and hope in the corporate world.

After a long break I decided to take on the task of checking and re-programing all my button binds today. When I was done I clicked on youtube and this video was waiting for me. IT'S A SIGN FROM THE GODS!

If I can ship wishlist, a gutamaya explorer. I love those interiors and would spend a billion to replace the deep space conda

Wish they’d support next gen consoles, seems daft they don’t given the specs

@Kestrel1971

5 ай бұрын

Consoles are what nearly killed this game in the first place. Good riddance and I hope they never go back to supporting console in any way, shape or form.

@Jay-xq1dc

5 ай бұрын

Last time they had issues support both current gen and last gen so they simply scraped both (they didn't want one gen to be left behind and not the other, or perhaps the current gen wasn't big enough player base at the time, also possibly issues with the slowest version of current gen Xbox). So I don't think it has something with specs to do with XB SX / PS5. Prob unlikely they will release since they offered porting accounts from console to PC, but it's not possible to reverse this process. Meaning the console player base shrink even more than before, or people just moved on and forgot about this game since it was "announced" dead for console for foreseeable future.

@BizlaC

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately for console players, the current generation of consoles have sold so poorly that frontier are unlikely to ever put in the development time needed to port it to them. Xbox has only sold 20 million copies, and PS5 only 50 million, it's likely that less than half a million of those owners would buy elite (considering it's not the kind of game console players generally go for) and add in development time, costs and then future support costs, plus re-porting the entire game in a couple of years again when the next generation comes out, it's just not profitable for them. On the other hand, there are over 300 million PC gamers, which has resulted in Elite selling 4.5 million copies on PC, even with such an enormous pool of potential players, the amount that are interested in space sims are small. It sucks, but I understand their decision.

@scissortongue5772

5 ай бұрын

@@BizlaC these consoles are selling amazingly, especially PS5, doesn’t make sense to cut out a 70 million strong player base because you might only sell 2 million copies. That’s 2 million more than they’re going to sell by not even trying in the first place.

@LanceVanceDance84

5 ай бұрын

@@scissortongue5772 Not to mention _many_ more people (myself included) will be buying a new console in order to play GTA VI as we get closer to its release.

The Python MkII looks really sweet. I'm glad it doesn't look like a Python with a ship kit. The Viper MkIII kinda looks like that unfortunately. The Cobra MkIV as well, but not as severe I think.

@tanner1ie

5 ай бұрын

Even IF Elite is never released on the "next gen": consoles and we get the full "live" game, Odyssey and any future expansions, hopefully we get "some" new content on the "last gen" consoles! Especially any new ships! 😯😀🤘🤞 . The regular Python was my favourite ship before I upgraded to the Anaconda and its' still my favourite medium ship and to fly an upgraded Python on PS4 would be amazing! 😀🤘🤞 .

Mr Ant! Oh how I have missed your Elite Videos - you taught me how to mine in my Python. You have been a source of knowledge for my Elite days, helping me find this or that material to grind. But I joined the UEE Navy, and defected to Star Citizen. But right this very minute, I am downloading, and installing my Elite: Odyssey copy. See you out there, Commander. o7

I hadn't reinstalled when I got my new machine last summer, but this will get me back in.

Is vr support being reprioritized? That’s the only way I play and the only thing that would bring me back since Odyssey launched.

@ObsidianAnt

5 ай бұрын

Frontier haven't discussed VR for a very long time sadly.

@whendarknessfalls6969

4 ай бұрын

No. Vr was made by 1 dev during his off time. But stopped working there before Ody came out.

Damn, I'm glad they woke up! Thanks for the good news ✌

always luved ED but haven't played in a looong while. Nice to see it being revitalized

I’ve been saying for ages that elite should learn a lesson from Fortnite and put the slightest additional effort into cosmetics/new ships and an external cam so you can see them. Easiest way to boost elite revenue.

@bilowik123

5 ай бұрын

Elite has always been immersion-first, and a lot of people like that about the game. A third person camera outside of the screenshot mode would not only harm that, it would also mean in any PvP scenario you are now forced to utilize that camera view given the insane advantages it would give.

@Neo-vz8nh

5 ай бұрын

Learn from Fortnite? Lol, the last thing we need is paywalled gameplay content. FDev has many flaws, but they generally not greedy. It would be the worst if they become greedy too.

Playing Starfield made me re-look at elite and learn a little better how to appreciate elite for what it is. Yes there’s a ton of missed opportunities and issues, but there’s also nothing else quite like it and that counts for something too. So while I won’t be playing it like a full time job like I did back on Xbox when I first got into it, it’s been nice revisiting it and trying to focus on the good and just accept the bad as part of life. Also makes me more appreciative when other games do things differently.

Guarded but optimistic, we shall see. New ships is a good start.

Honestly, this game have the greatest potential from all of those space games out there with similiar model, because here, you truly can go everywhere, to 500 bilion stars, and that is something that nothing else have. If devs will make it so players can do more, like estabilishing actuall faction of they own, building colonies, or things along those lines, this game will have second youth.

Any hope for a console update, maybe adding horizons?

@BrianM78

5 ай бұрын

Didn't we get the console version of the game, Horizons, when Horizons launched on P.C?

@tanner1ie

5 ай бұрын

​@@BrianM78I'm sure they mean, releasi the "live" game, Odyssey and any future dlc on the"next gen" consoles, the PS5 and Xbox Series X (while everything they can, at least new ships etc to the "last gen " consoles)! Which is what we all want! 😯😂😀🤘🤞 .

As a star citizen, I'm truly happy for my Elite brethren. Hopefully things aren't as bad with Fdev as we've been led to believe.