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@duncbot9000

11 ай бұрын

Seems to be 5e only, but you don't mention that. I am all for thirdparty 5e content as it means I am not paying wotc, but I am seeking to move to Pathfinder 2 and the kickstarter doesn't mention pf2e. I guess we can convert it, but if I am looking to buy something I don't want to need to convert it myself.

@gacrazy65

11 ай бұрын

@@duncbot9000 I'm with ya, but I do understand our Boi, NoNat gotta pay his bills and that's what sponsors let him do. I'm kinda grumbling that I have 3 kickstarter products I've been waiting on since a year before my migration. It looks neat, but I can't see myself getting it because it's 5e based and I'd need to vigorously tweak to suit PF2e.

@onlycrits

11 ай бұрын

@@duncbot9000 We plan to convert the book to pf2e in the future. We currently have this setup as a stretch goal, but we're not quite there yet! We need someone whos great at converting content.

@onlycrits

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the amazing sponsored post Nonat! It was great to work with you again. 🥰

@duncbot9000

11 ай бұрын

@@onlycrits awesome, I saw some hidden stretch goals and presumed it was hidden in there, (though I may just have missed it.) Though something like that should be shouted loudly with the current state of the game

My general understanding of the access trait is it's effectively treated as common if you are in the group that has access to it, but otherwise it's uncommon.

@aneldritchdreamgames5925

11 ай бұрын

Came here to say this. Access is just "this specific requisite makes this uncommon/rare option common to you"

@christopherg2347

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely. It is a step down from Uncommon/Rare.

@AKA_Kira

11 ай бұрын

I didn't realize that, but it makes sense to have it that way!

@KajtekBeary

9 ай бұрын

@@AKA_Kirayep! In Alkenstar both inventor and gunslinger are common for example

*Other classes:* Okay. I'm a little hurt. I'm also missing Focus points. And the DM is giving us exactly 11 minutes to rest before the next wave of enemies approaches. I can either Treat Wounds on myself or Refocus. What should I do? HP or FP? *Wood Summoner:* Pathetic. _(gets both HP and FP)_

About the wood elemental healing effect for summoner You don’t spend 10 minutes TO HEAL. You get free healing while refocusing, something you’d already have to do to get back focus points. Still not amazing but better than you’d think at a glance, at least. Sure, you can have someone treat wounds on you in that time, but I frequently see people with chunks of hp still missing after that, so it’ll get some use for sure.

In my games I'll reflavor the Flamethrower as literally "throwing flames." Like: he's not acting like the flamethrower weapon that sprays a burst of fire, it's literally the elemental throwing pieces of flames like a catapult in a line.

Because I also got confused by Access before, Access doesn't further limit the option to only the listed entry, they just treat it as common. It makes those options more accessible but only to certain characters (but GMs can still just allow it).

Just a point of clarification, access is always tied to something uncommon and it gives a requirement which upon meeting nullifies the uncommon trait. Otherwise it is just an uncommon thing that required DM approval.

The metal elementals can have all three physical damage types. If you make the primary attack a bludgeoning attack of some kind, then give it versatile S, you can then make the secondary attack a piercing attack because its other "hand" is a spike.

After hearing the Guillman's Guide to Speed, Brain: Pathfinder 2e: Tears of the Kingdom.

@duncbot9000

11 ай бұрын

it seems to be 5e only unless I am reading the kickstarter wrong :(

As a Fighter, I really appreciate those "they can Interact to undo the thing" effects, because I'm standing there menacingly like "you sure you want to use that Manipulate-tagged action, friend? :D"

Spent the entire video waiting for NoNat1s response to the Amiri art. Was not disappointed.

@JustAnotherJames3

11 ай бұрын

This just confuses me So, is Amiri still a Giant Instinct or is she now an Elemental Instinct?

@megavore97

11 ай бұрын

@@JustAnotherJames3She’s still giant instinct; the RoE art is basically an “alternate canon” similar to how all the AP’s feature iconics in their art.

@JustAnotherJames3

11 ай бұрын

@@megavore97 That checks out. So, this version of Amiri killed a Fire Elemental and absorbed it's power rather than slayed a Giant and took his sword?

To note, Summoners start with a focus spell called Evolution Surge. One of the options for this spell is to give the eidiolon a 20-foot status bonus to movement speed for one minute. I can see this being a natural spell to cast prior to using the Elemental Maelstrom. Does this make Elemental maelstrom busted? Not really, but it does help. Summoner starts with a movement speed boosting option right at level 1, and it's a very strong one too.

Makes sense for me that fire trait triggers weakness on bludgeoning damage since there is not only cold but "water" weakness and, as far as i'm concearned, usually water means either cold or bludgeoning damage.

@philllllllll

11 ай бұрын

And rocks too. A fire covered in dirt won't burn too hot.

The metal companions bunker ability seems great for creating a roadblock. Use a ranged weapon, set up the bunker in a doorway, and then shoot over it. Enemies have to attack it to get through, but they have a harder time hitting and take damage if they do.

I feel like you underestimate the added value of Wood eidolon's refocus healing. It's IN ADDITION to recovering a focus point. The thing you wanted to do anyway. My Chosen One summoner would've loved that! More free healing is really nice, it allows you to spend less time AND resources

I am disappointed that we are missing new druid subclasses for metal and wood.

@HenshinFanatic

11 ай бұрын

Or updates to sulis.

You know, it's not for most tables, but the synergy between the two makes me think a dual-class elements barbarian and kinetisist would be very interesting to see. that heavy overlap lol.

A few small things to point out: For the Wood eidolan, since Refocusing no longer has a cap on how much you can use it back to back, it can see use in a build that loves to dump all of your focus points in fights so you can get the healing benefit for free. I guess that was the idea. I am going to homebrew the Eidolan elemental explosion to cause the damage to depend on the element of the Eidolan. Electricity, Cold, Fire, Bludgeoning, Slashing, and Piercing. Its just better for the theme and makes the choice more impactful. I overall love these options. I do hope they begin to make ALL versions of elementalism focus on variety because to me, thats what sells the whole elemental theme. For example, if they did an elemental Monk who uses elemental ki skills, Wood having access to Vitality or Void damage is much more flavorful than "wood does more bludgeoning".

If you've got the lay on hands archetype, wood is a 33% buff to your self healing and means you don't have to heal yourself during party heals. If your GM times things, this is great

@Nonat1s

11 ай бұрын

That's a huge decider on how useful something like this is! If you're in a rush where every minute counts, this is definitely pretty good! But if you're in a slower paced game where you can take 40 minutes between encounters to heal up with Treat Wounds, it's less useful. It definitely depends on the campaign and situation! ^^

@HenshinFanatic

11 ай бұрын

​@@Nonat1s even in those situations, you can help speed up the recovery time. Also there's that link spell that gives your eidolon fast healing for 4 rounds.

Living in “the south” taught me to speak with a country accent. Having a parent with a phd in english meant it never “stuck”. I totally feel you on the; WTF is coming out of my mouth!

10:15 Notable things: - The damage for this AoE scales at 1D6 per _level_ rather then every 2 level. That is very strong scaling. - it gains the Versatile trait from metal elemental core 13:40 You got it exactly wrong - Access is a step _down_ from Uncommon. It is a path to _make_ it common for you. "A character who meets the specifications listed there has access to that option just like they would to a common option, even though it’s uncommon." - GMG p. 35 If you are a Storm order druid, that elemental is as selectable as a common thing for your. The GM can still ban it, of course. But that would be like banning a common option. (Of course, a lot of stuff that grants access often is itself uncommon. So you need to ask your GM to even get the Access).

Elemental burst doesn’t lock you into bludgeoning if you aren’t fire, it deals the same kind of damage as your primary attack if you aren’t fire. Which could be any of the physical types.

Yeah I feel like the elemental eidolons and animal companions were probably written before the kineticist was finalized and they got missed in editing, like a lot of things in this book.

A great example of "Everything that isn't fire becomes bludgeoning" is the spell Elemental Annihilation Wave, and it conjures all 4 elements (written pre-RoE) and deals 1d6 fire damage and 3d6 bludgeoning damage. As if it couldn't deal 1d6 fire, 1d6 electricity, 1d6 cold and 1d6 bludgeoning?

The raging barbarian bit played with 0,25x speed is hilarious.

Summoners get a level 1 feat Energy Heart, along with the higher level Dual Energy Heart feat, to give eidolons elemental damage of the player's choice to their strikes. It feels weird you can't combine that with the Elemental Burst. Its rough to see that it does have a line about including traits from their strikes given by Elemental Core but no support for the Energy Heart feats.

Access is not a trait and it just means it's common for the one with access

NoNat forgetting once again that Moment of Clarity is a thing for Barbarians so you're not limited in what concentrate actions you use.

did he just fail to realize that 6 HP in 10 minutes can be done while you're getting your wounds treated?

No Nat they get the healing when they refocus so they are they are doing what they would normally do anyway during a break but now they also get healed some hp.

The Wood Eidolon heal isn't awful. Won't always be great but I ain't gonna scoff at being able to help top me off between fights. Treat Wounds isn't always going to get you from injured to full (notably there's a few levels between DC 20 & 30 being a consistent target number) so if I can sometimes shorten rest time that can be impactful. Ten minutes less rest time.

@keve5534

11 ай бұрын

Yeah in time sensative situations it's a consistent top up when not everyone can get treated.

The earth elemental companions ability is really potent to me. It doesn't have a size limit just needs to land a hit at full bonus to trip up a key target with no save.

@undrhil

11 ай бұрын

When the remaster rules come out and they have replaced the monster trip action, I imagine most DMS are going to treat this trip action the same as the Monsters new trip action so it will not be without saving throws once the remastered books are out.

@keve5534

11 ай бұрын

@@undrhil but they would have used trip for it if that was the case which would immediately connect them in the remaster

I love Elemental Evolution but wow this really should have been more universal across elemental features. Wow I hope the sorcerer doesn’t have this issue

I played a Metal Elemental barbarian with kinethicist archetype. It is very fun to run into enemy groups, tank with your massive hp and when they think they have you, use elemental explosion on your enemies. The only annoying thing is that I still have to use channel elements to activate my kinetic aura because the elemental rage despite being like kinetic aura flavourwise, mechanically it is not the same.

This tempts me to finally play a Barbarian 😮

@aformofmatter8913

11 ай бұрын

Acid water barbarian pirate captain

Elemental Burst. Wood Eidolon lets me heal back the damage I took. Wood Eidolon allows me to deal fireball damage once per combat with no penalty effectively.

Hmm I have always seen Access as the step under Uncommon. You need special GM permission unless you have something that specifically grants access

WiscoNat1s was quite the treat.

0:46 damn that was harsh

Don't forget the option of kineticist taking the Barbarian archetype. Tbf, takes a couple level to unlock the instict ability that way, but it gives temp HP to your normally less tanky Kineticist. Add the reaction rage with a feat and the "explode when you start your rage" feat.

@cosmoniums5990

11 ай бұрын

Kineticists aren’t frail. They’re effectively a d10 martial, with martial ac scaling. I honestly wouldn’t call them less tanky

@jand.4737

11 ай бұрын

@@cosmoniums5990 aren't they d8s? Well, maybe you count them having a higher con than other classes. Still, I think it's a fun experiment to put the class + archetype this way around, particularly if playing with free archetype.

@cosmoniums5990

11 ай бұрын

@@jand.4737 they’re effectively a D10 because con is their main stat. They’ll end up with the equivalent of any D10 who’ve maxed con to a +5. And will largely be on pace with them or a little behind them in a situation where they’re ahead of standard D8 classes, but a couple hp behind a D10 (but less than a standard D8 class)

@cosmoniums5990

11 ай бұрын

Barbarian would still benefit more, the explode isn’t something based on their main stat and will only get to trained, so it’s not going to be super amazing. And Kineticist don’t get any benefits from rage beyond temp hp, and it locks them out of using all but one element. (And just using their Kineticist abilities in general until you get the instinct feature)

Yeah why the fuck can Barbarian deal cold damage, but sorcerers officially can't with all their water bloodline stuff? My ice sorceress needed GM permission to modify her bloodline for that. Consistency, please, Paizo! Otherwise, cool stuff. Thanks for covering this, Nonat!

@megavore97

11 ай бұрын

The CRB came out 4 tears ago, Paizo has learned more about developing mechanics for the game. Hopefully when sorcerer comes out in Player Core 2 next year it will be updated.

I think it makes sense for any uncommon or rare trait to come with associated access information

in things like society typically access over rides uncommon, so if your say storm you get to use it without say a boon ,

I just started my first Pathfinder 2e campaign and I'm playing a dragon instinct barbarian now I want to change to elemental barbarian but my backstory doesn't support it

I enjoy converting pop culture characters into pf2e. You've just inspired me to create Stephen King's Carrie, the little human fire elemental barbarian. Or if homebrewed, maybe gravity based? 👀

But remember for Treat Wounds your then immune to it for 1 hour.

*smiles in dual class* building a barbarian kineticist now lol

all future videos MUST end in wisconsin voice from now on.

The Persona 4 music hits hard

You became a cheese elemental at the end there

For the eidolon blast, the damage type can be changed with the elemental heart evoloution feat

Hope your rib is getting better!

For the Wood Eidolon I don't think it's supposed to be the way to heal your Eidolon. I think the idea is that you're going to have to refocus after combat anyways so might as well grant your Eidolon some extra healing also. And you're Eidolon doesn't become Immune to it so everytime you refocus you're Eidolon heals! Edit: Also I can't find it but I thought you and your Eidolon shared a Hitpool. Oh and yeh you're immune to Treat Wounds actions for an hour reguardless of the effect it had on you. Not sure if the shared Hitpoint thing would mean you and your Eidolon would shared one treat wounds or not but still I think the free healing is quite nice yes!

Yeah in time sensative situations it's a consistent top up when not everyone can get treated

I've been impatiently waiting for my new elemental barbarian to reach lv 6 so i can explode! It can't happen soon enough

How are you feeling, Nonat? Are the ribs better?

Elemental blast needs to temporally reduse size of an elemental, maybe once free / only damage, and then each recast will reduce size by one

They're changing Amari from titan grip to elemental for some reason? Or is this just for the splat book?

@Nonat1s

11 ай бұрын

Typically these are non-canon demonstrations of the content in the book. They used to use nameless characters to show them off, but they've realized just how much the community adores the Iconics, so they've started using them for most things!

@Wanderingsage7

11 ай бұрын

@@Nonat1s thank you

@JustAnotherJames3

11 ай бұрын

​@@Nonat1s So this is an elseworlds situation where Amiri slayed a Fire Elemental and absorbed it's power instead of slaying a Giant and taking it's swords?

The Elemental Instinct barbarian is a fun and flavorful subclass, but it sucks that if you're a Barbarian with Kineticist dedication that Rage and Channel Elements are two separate actions. On the flip side, it's also unfortunate that if a Kineticist takes Barbarian dedication, then their impulses don't have the rage trait.

@thewordywarlock7159

11 ай бұрын

Rage trait would break the base Kineticist, since they would only be able to use their impulses while raging.

@HenshinFanatic

11 ай бұрын

Elemental Barbarian//Kineticist gestalt.

@Money4Nuthing

11 ай бұрын

@@thewordywarlock7159 good point, didn't think of that. Barbarian dedication is just largely incompatible with Kineticist, which isn't that big a deal considering it's incompatible with pretty much all spell casters and some other stuff as well.

*listens to add* man, why does all the cool stuff come out when I'm perpetually broke?

Regarding the wood elemental companion and its support benefit. If you think about it it's actually not that bad. -5 speed means the target cannot use the step action. This could also set up attack of opportunity or consume most of their actions (1 to interact, 1 to step and then only 1 action remains). This could effectively nullifyl a spell casters turn as if they move they may not have enough actions to cast and if they don't you get an attack of opportunity (if you have that ability)

@Nonat1s

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the step action just requires that you have at least 10 speed. Unless the target's base speed was already 10, the -5 penalty doesn't stop their step action.

@devilkyn1

11 ай бұрын

@@Nonat1s are you sure? This is a quote from AoN regarding movement: " Most creatures have a Speed, which is how fast they can move across the ground." It says how fast not how far. I interpret that as reducing your speed by 5 means how fast you move not your max distance. So trying to move 5 (slowed down by 5) would be 0. It's the same as ray of frost slowing you down 10 for 1 round... Thoughts?

@megavore97

11 ай бұрын

@@devilkyn1No it just subtracts 5 feet from your stride speed. You can still step with a 5-10 feet penalty assuming standard speed of 20-25.

@devilkyn1

11 ай бұрын

@@megavore97 Hmm. You didn't really address speed (fast) vs distance (far). If a car was travelling at 15mph and slowed to 10mph then its speed is reduced. The max distance changes because it's not moving as fast. As opposed to still driving at 15mph but stopping sooner for a shorter distance. Thoughts?

@nonat: just a mention about the acces trait because you always make it seem more complicated than it is. If someting is uncommen or rare normally you need gm permission to take that options, if however you meet the criteria mentioned with the acces you gain acces to that option, translated this means: I made a character from the broken landsregion with ùeans i can take the aldori duelist dedication without gm permission. this al takes into consideration of course that you are using the golarian setting and RAW. Even shorter it means: i meet the criteria for the acces trait= that option is commen for me. It's all meant as a guideline for how to mix and match options based on your characters story and as an example for people making their own setting. For example, if people want to play pathfinder but like the exandria setting from critical role you could decide to give the gunslinger class the acces trait for characters from whitestone ( and another city i'm forgetting) this would mean that anyone playing in your campaign as a gunslinger has to ground their character to a specific part of your world. It's sets boundaries and clear rules that can be helpfull for people who need structure or the flounder. In the end you can always go ask your gm to use a uncommen option without meeting the criteria but that informs your gm of you playing a character that breaks preset rules about the world and figuring that out together is nice. It prevents situations where the gm wants to run quest for the frozen flame in a world entirely set in prehistoric time only for 3 of the 4 players playing automaton, inventors and gunslingers that might not be the flavor he's goning for. Anway sorry for the rant, hope you heal up well an have a wonderrfull rest of your day sir.

are metal elemental just, naturally occuring constructs ? whats the difference between a wood elemental and a plant ??

Like, is that the kineticist impulses that are attacks are impulse attacks and not weapon attacks, so the Barbarian Elemental instinct rage damage doesn't apply to impulses. I think that it should but apparently it doesn't.

@jand.4737

11 ай бұрын

Not all impulses are attacks. Some have more support or CC effects that make you more mobile. Like ... flying to the enemy before attacking them with your weapon.

@undrhil

11 ай бұрын

@@jand.4737 I agree. However, basically half of the kineticist dedication is the elemental blast impulse which is an attack. So a barbarian who takes the kineticist dedication as long as they are an elemental Instinct Barbarian, they are able to use the elemental blast impulse but they do not get to add their rage damage to it. That is my issue and complaint. Now, if they were to add a seat to allow a Elemental Instinct Barbarian to take an impulse from the kineticist class I would hope that it would allow the rage damage to go with it. However currently the two classes don't really mesh... " add a, f e a t quote

I would like to RAGE 🔥

Is muan a renamed sylvan, or a new language?

The Eidolons were a little disappointing but the Barbarian and most of the companions were cool.

9:20 Objection. If a summoner takes the ability to fuse with his eidolon, he can literally go anywhere that doesn't require flight. Bear with me, ok? Let's say the setting is, as suggested, an aquatic one. The team has to get to the bottom of an ocean trench or the like. Summon, fuse, go - while the others are still figuring how not to suffocate (unless, of course, the entire party is composed of amphibious races, then who cares). Same deal if you need to get through a long passage filled with water. Summon, fuse, go. And let's not forget the hidden security trick... in an old D&D3.5 campaign, my character was the only one who could sleep in a territory infested by monsters without worrying about being attacked. Why? Because he was a Gold Dragon Disciple - that gets the ability to breathe underwater. And he went to sleep at the bottom of a well. And as far as I remember, there is no rule that states that you have to be AWAKE for your Eidolon to stick around. Summon, fuse, get in well or pond, sleep.

Paizo for the love of Abadar fix the summoner. It's too weak.

As a Wisconsinite, I can't tell if I should feel insulted or seen (lol, jk)

Won't dig too deep on why this video is tagged as associated with WoW ... sure you streamed BFA once so . . anyway But am the only one that got two unskippable adds every 5 minutes ? Idk .. usually it's one 5sec skip every 10 or so ? was weird and the first time on Nonat's channel °-°

@Nonat1s

11 ай бұрын

The ad placement feature is super bugged right now. Usually I manually place them in unobtrusive spots of the video between topics. But this time I just had to blindly place them. X.X

@Luchifae

11 ай бұрын

Understandable :o Thanks for the vid eitherway and have fun editing the deep dive and all that o/ may the icecream god bless your belly too

The Wood eidolon benefit is great, refocusing is something you'd like to do anyway. It's a passive benefit, you're underrating this hard.

@Nonat1s

11 ай бұрын

Me? Underrate things out of context?? NEVER......okay maybe sometimes............okay maybe at least once per video.