We attempt to use the alternator of Ian's Garrett GTCP85 APU to generate some electricity.....
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@radio6553 жыл бұрын
My neighbors are sooo lucky that I do not have access to such amazing toys. I would run them all day..
@williamvaughan1218
10 ай бұрын
Not with the fuel consumption of that thing you wouldn't.
@scottp1111
10 ай бұрын
You could run them all day, i as your neighbor would sit outside with hearing protection laughing and watching your credit card melt away ….😂
@johnpekkala6941
10 ай бұрын
Im mostly concerned with the nearby lambs exposed to around 120 db of jet noise. I did not see them out there at run time however so I guess they are taken inside before a run so they are not direclty exposed to the deafening noise.
@@johnpekkala6941 Jet deafened lambs are more tender.
@djohnsto211 ай бұрын
Perfect standby generator for modern suburbia.
@stevefrew584210 ай бұрын
I was building those APUs when Mr Garrett himself would walk thru the assembly area.
@MrThomashorst
9 ай бұрын
Is this the same company wich makes the turbo-loaders?
@LLIBS
9 ай бұрын
@@MrThomashorst😊
@snjert8406
9 ай бұрын
@@MrThomashorst you mean turbochargers? :D
@MrThomashorst
9 ай бұрын
@@snjert8406 yepp ... sorry. we in germany call them "loaders" 😂
@snjert8406
9 ай бұрын
@@MrThomashorst oh I know, I'm German hahahahahaha
@barjan823 жыл бұрын
Those 3x3kW lamps brightened up my day! 😀
@charlottejet4338
3 жыл бұрын
There was a news report about a collapsed sun lighting up Swansea... 😂
@KlodFather
9 ай бұрын
I'll hold these wires while you throw that switch 😜😜👍👍
@1974UTuber2 жыл бұрын
World's loudest electricity generation right there. And your wife wouldn't need to run the hair dryer of it, just stand in front of it for a second
@markarca6360
10 ай бұрын
It looks like in a Pantene advert, but it gave the women in the advert dry hair.
@dennis-nz5im
10 ай бұрын
Heat several houses
@PowderMill
10 ай бұрын
👍🏻 PERFECT for use as a home standby Generator…. With HOURLY “self tests”! That SHOULD teach the tyrants in charge a great lesson. Ban all small gasoline fueled engines…. ? How about my new JET-A fueled genes T!?! Thanks for a very entertaining video.
@MrBen527
10 ай бұрын
It has "bleed air" capability for that purpose! 😆
@dennis-nz5im
10 ай бұрын
@@MrBen527 and run it through a cooler like an intercooler and expand it for a/c
@jcstudio568510 ай бұрын
if I were your neighbor I will bring my folding chair and watch you guys test that thing.
@GeorgeMCMLIX10 ай бұрын
A sight to behold and music (albeit VERY loud!!) to my ears. Many happy years as an aircraft engineer playing with BAC 1-11 aircraft, including the RR Spey and GTCP85. Great video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@philjjordan619710 ай бұрын
A 300 hp gas rurbine would put out at least 100,000 watts. But it's main mission is to start the bigger engines on the plane using airflow as as a starter motor that make 12,0000+ hp each
@philjjordan6197
10 ай бұрын
WTF is the correct title! 😂
@Andrew-ep4kw
9 ай бұрын
Yup, they do 2 things. Provide electrical power so the startup sequence for the engines doesn't have to rely solely on the batteries, and they supply high pressure (or high flow, forgot which it was) that powers the starters on the main engines.
@GlutenEruption
9 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-ep4kw apus typically put out about 2-4 lbs per second of bleed air at 40-50psi
@dom3827
8 ай бұрын
300 hp is 220 Kilowatts. So double the amount you state. Minus inefficiency, let it be 150.000 Watts.
@PascalGienger
8 ай бұрын
Yes and no. Many bigger airports have ground starting units to provide electricity and pressure so the APU doesn't need to run (noise reasons). On the other hand an APU gives you a huge security margin when you lose an engine to stabilize the electrical aystem and to have power to supply electricity to all avionic systems in case the second engine fails, too. You don't need the RAT then.
@elguapo150710 ай бұрын
9kVA is pretty common for aircraft generators, with the APU being driven directly at a constant speed with the frequency at a nominal 400Hz whilst the main engines obviously change rotational speed significantly so the gen is maintained at 400Hz using a Constant Speed Drive unit (CSD) on older aircraft or an Integrated Drive Generator (IDG). You're right about fuel types...you could probably run a gas turbine engine on sawdust or even flour if you could grind it down fine enough. You know what happens to flour mills when you get a spark!
@fallingwater
10 ай бұрын
I can't believe the Internet doesn't yet have anyone running a turbine on flour. Clearly, this must be remedied.
@elguapo1507
10 ай бұрын
@@fallingwater 😁 👍
@richardpiotrowski2118
10 ай бұрын
Or whiskey. What a terrible waste though.
@elguapo1507
10 ай бұрын
@@richardpiotrowski2118 Something as nice as a Glenlivett shouldn't ever be allowed because there are millions of gallons of Bells available as fuel! 😁
@GeorgeMCMLIX
10 ай бұрын
A sight to behold and music (albeit VERY loud!!) to my ears. Many happy years as an aircraft engineer playing with BAC 1-11 aircraft, including the RR Spey and GTCP85. Great video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@MickeyMishra5 ай бұрын
Running light bulbs has never been so much fun!
@jimgiordano821810 ай бұрын
You guys have the best toys.
@charlottejet43383 жыл бұрын
Another fabulous WTF production! ☺️
@chilebike65569 ай бұрын
I like the anti-theft device. No annotation on the control box whatsoever.
@Flies2FLL10 ай бұрын
This particular APU looks like the thing they installed in the wheel well of a 727. Back in the day, I had a mechanic show me HOW to get the APU to run while the airplane was flying; This was an ultra ultra EMERGENCY procedure, because a running APU WOULD BURN THE TOP OF THE RIGHT WING ROOT. If you lost all your generators for some reason, you could pull down the APU panel, pull two wires off, and when connected, if the gear was down the APU would fire up. Again, an ULTRA EMERGENCY procedure and I certainly would NEVER NEVER tell a Fed/check airman about this.....But it CAN be done.
@JCarey1988
9 ай бұрын
Was it a design flaw that let it burn the wing root? And also what kind of emergency would justify that?
@Flies2FLL
9 ай бұрын
@@JCarey1988 Lose all your generators due to whatever; You are now down to standby power, powered by the battery, which will last you oh, about 30 minutes. You are flying in IFR conditions. Do you have any other stupid questions?
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
@@JCarey1988 The exhaust from the APU was carried via a duct to an outlet on the upper wing surface near the root , with a grate to prevent big FOD items from falling in to the APU. Originally designed with a door, but those were a major problem for dependaility and almost all were subsequently removed.
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
@@Flies2FLL No need to be rude. WIth it's three completely independent electrical systems, it would almost certainly take a three- engine-failure event to lose all electric power, and with that, you haven't got thirty minutes to sort that out.
@Flies2FLL
9 ай бұрын
@@paulcrumley9756 First of all, there are four independent electrical systems, with standby power the fourth and final system. You are down to battery power at this point. Loss of all generators can and has been caused by what is known as a feeder fault. If one of the main electrical lines from the generator experiences a major short circuit, it can cause a voltage surge that will knock all three GCU's [generator control units] off line and could possibly damage them, rendering the plane down to standby power. At this point you are not having a good day. You have about 30 minutes of battery time in which to get on the ground. The plane flies just fine without electricals, but you may not have lights, radios, or FLIGHT INSTRUMENTS in short order if you aren't on the ground yesterday.... One other issue that this malfunction can trigger is that once you are safely on the ground, the low beer light may begin flashing brightly. There is no checklist for this issue, the solution is obvious.
@JaysElectronicTinkerShack3 жыл бұрын
what an awesome bit of kit ,didnt realise u guys were down my way lol i do love anything that combusts fuel
@1daddyDA9 ай бұрын
Just amazing. Thanks for sharing. I am a total aviation Geek.
@forrestallison1879 Жыл бұрын
Turbine power generators are actually pretty common around the world. They have the advantage that they can run on basically any fuel including gas and diesel. I'm curious, could this run on any fuel? Would that work? hearing protection not optional
@brianmurphy8790
10 ай бұрын
Some liquid fuels wouldn't provide enough lubrication for the fuel pump - such as petrol. However, you could mix some oil into the petrol to help with that problem. You'd have to mess around with different air/fuel ratios for each different fuel. All turbines will run on all kinds of fuels - with the right fuel delivery system.
@forrestallison1879
10 ай бұрын
@@brianmurphy8790 I see, interesting that it's the fuel pump. So those turbines that are designed for flex fuels probably have specially designed fuel pumps
@raygale4198
10 ай бұрын
I worked on larger Allison 501 industrial engines a long time ago, different fuels may require different nozzles and fuel manifolds depending on the energy density of the fuel. I worked on some dual fuel engines that had liquid fuel and gas fuel systems. The liquid systems normal sized nozzles and standard fuel piping. Low energy gas fuel (Methane) had huge nozzles and an almost doughnut like fuel manifold ring around the engine to admit the larger volume of gas needed fast enough. Add super heated steam re-injection and it gets very complicated in there.
@smokeandsteamxsw9831
9 ай бұрын
400 cycles will burn your house down. We run 60 cycles. If you can rewire generator to put out 60 cycles then ok.
@KlodFather
9 ай бұрын
@@smokeandsteamxsw9831 - No it will not... 400 is no more dangerous than 50 or 60. I don't know where you got that idea, but all the electronics you have with switching power supplies, the lamp dimmers, and most other things are OK on 400 hz. Transformers in some cases do not like it and motors try to sync up with the frequency so AC fans and some washing machines are not OK with it. But for running lights and electronics and motorized things that utilize a switching power supply? Bullocks. Its back to school my son.
@JG-hi6by10 ай бұрын
I wish I had one of these. Because I would actually legitimately use it for something. I’ve had this idea for an awesome long range RC boat for so long and one of those would be so amazing for it.😩
@manuelalvarado6510 Жыл бұрын
Garrett AiResearch, who built that APU, was acquired by AlliedSignal and then merged with Honeywell.
@UHOH3300
10 ай бұрын
Correct. We still make APUs to this day (I work at honeywell)
@esslar110 ай бұрын
I've started many an APU, but never like this! If it weren't so loud, it would make a great backup home generator, I bet.
@PascalGienger
8 ай бұрын
I think you wouldn't like the daily fuel truck deliveries including the bills..
@nicoleibundgut534
8 ай бұрын
Great in sense of flexibility because you kinda can run many different fuels. You can insultate this engines quite good because the noise frequency is very high.
@v3n0x10 ай бұрын
If only there a way of harvesting the amount of noise it makes
@AMCUSOLDIER2 жыл бұрын
First thing that I saw was a Miami Beach Florida from Miami Beach🤗🤣
@casemodder899 ай бұрын
i could picture myself firing that thing up in the garden for a load of dirty clothes and letting rip 2.5h 😂😂😂
@CAESARbonds10 ай бұрын
that would make an great range extender for an electric car :-)
@istochnikov45257
2 ай бұрын
I'd use it for maaaaany things... - The exhaust of the APU can be used for a gasifier that can generate syngas for feeding the APU - The pneumatic bleed can be used of another processes (smelting?) - Also the exhaust can feed a steam cycle... The possibilities are infinite...
@oilydigits3 жыл бұрын
Justin Our contest group are on the lookout for a nice compact quiet generator to power our station during next month's VHF national field day. I'm sure one of these would fit the bill very nicely:-) 73 de Steve M0KOV
@thewtf
3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of power if nothing else!!!
@dfb111110 ай бұрын
My neighbors would definitely know when my lights were being turned on.
@donthitmeimwoozy Жыл бұрын
Just what i need for the next camping trip
@SubTroppo
10 ай бұрын
Don't you mean "glamping". Reminds me of a national park camping trip here in Qld. The camp-site neighbours were a group of middle-aged school teachers "cutting loose". A peaceful mountain morning was interrupted by one of them trying to get a chainsaw going to cut firewood. Fortunately he never managed it and quickly gave up.
@dogdooish10 ай бұрын
Great fun :) --- a bit like getting a D9 to dig a flower pot though 🤣
@melkiorwiseman523410 ай бұрын
It sounds very like the jet engines running the ambulance helicopter which used to land at a hospital almost next to where I used to reside for work purposes. One thing I noticed is that they would never just shut down the engines after landing. They always left the engines running for around two minutes following a landing before shutting the engines down. I presume this was to allow the cooling system to remove most of the heat before shutting them down completely. It's not difficult to imagine that the coolant and/or the lubricant would boil from the residual heat if they simply turned off the engines.
@fightingfalconfan
9 ай бұрын
Jet engines are cooled by the air coming in. Commercial engines are known as high bypass. So most of the air they take in is as the name implies; bypassed from the combustion chamber and used used for cooling the chamber down and on commercial airliners it's also the main thrust. Jet fighters are known as low bypass; so most of the air is actually burned. This is known as a APU. or Auxilery Power Unit. This little engine runs when the main one is off or just starting up. It also provides bypass air for the compressor to start spooling during engine start up. Helicopters like the one's you used to watch are known as turbo shafts. They have a jet engine that drives a reduction gearbox that powers the main and tail rotors (depending on design). Instead of using the engine's thrust, they use the rotational force of the turbine. Same concept with the turbo props. Jet engine is connected to a reduction gearbox that rotates a propeller.
@melkiorwiseman5234
9 ай бұрын
@@fightingfalconfan I knew most of that except for the difference between high bypass and low bypass engines. Thanks.
@Holeyguagaamoley
9 ай бұрын
Yes , that’s exactly what it’s for. I was surprised that I could not get straight out of the helicopter when we landed but would have to sit there awkwardly looking at the ground crew waiting for the temps to drop.
@gemsquashthg10 ай бұрын
Nice video. Do you by chance have access to the GTCP36-6 maintenance and parts manuals. I have a surplus APU that i would like to get running for a project.
@paco_rider10 ай бұрын
Finally a proper way to fast charge your tesla at home!🎉
@chauvinemmons10 ай бұрын
Love the Garrett turbine Shout out from Prescott AZ
@rexoliver778010 ай бұрын
Lightbulb dummy load-makes me think of a lightbulb load made up for a 10kw AM broadcast transmitter having over 10 1kw tower top beacon bulbs-1 kw each. Lit up nice and brightly flashed during 100 % modulation.
@markarca6360
10 ай бұрын
It is like in a hydroelectric or wind power generation which have dummy loads or dump loads, (My concept is wiring the dump load to a water heater, so that the excess energy can be used in heating water for household or commercial use), or in FM radio, which they connect the transmitter to a dummy load for maintainance and testing purposes in place of antennae.
@rexoliver7780
10 ай бұрын
@@markarca6360 that is what the lightbulb load was for. At a gov’t VOA studio plat they have a 750kw Cat genset for backup power. It is equipped with a large nichrome wire wound load for testing.
@bobsukdragracingarchive31193 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that :-)
@rushymoto9 ай бұрын
In a diesel generator an old rule of thumb is 1/2 pint per KVA per hour at full load for a fairly modern turbocharged diesel engine. I wonder what the consumption is with this? I ran lots of Cummins KTA 50 engines in the desert on JP8. We had 20X 50 liter 1250KVA units running in a synchronized plant in various locations.
@rushymoto
9 ай бұрын
@@smithy1833 and how many KW?
@clownhands8 ай бұрын
Interesting that the whine of the turbine doesn’t vary at all when the 9 KW load is introduced.
@PascalGienger
8 ай бұрын
That beast outputs 150 - 200 kW. That's like putting a 20 watts lamp in your wall socket...
@jerrymejias5940 Жыл бұрын
Was this one used on KC-135A’s?
@rustyneuron10 ай бұрын
That's cool. Its my first time watching "The WTF" channel. The farm they are on looks like it could be in the U.S. Midwest. I live in Missouri, and the surrounding natural setting in NSW looks a lot like where I grew up on the north edge of the Ozarks. Edit: I know nothing about airplanes other than the basic components (wings, engines, rudder, engines, APU, etc.). Do airplanes use AC current or DC? Can the APU run basic instrumentation when plane isn't hooked to ground supply with no engines running? Anyway, dumb questions, but thanks!
@gmcjetpilot10 ай бұрын
I'm getting one for camping. My camp ground neighbors will love me... no stinking quite Honda Generator. I'm pretty sure fuel burn to KW is not economical.
@daithiosioradain338010 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Is it electronically governed or rated to a fraction of what it's actually producing in HP? Because it didn't seem to waver when the 6Kw of bulbs lit up and turbines don't respond like IC engines to sudden loading.
@TehMG
10 ай бұрын
The alternator needs only a fraction of the power that this turbine engine produces, that's why you hardly notice the 9kW of load. In an aircraft, the APU does a lot more than just produce electricity. It outputs compressed air (known as "bleed air") which can run the air conditioning packs to heat or cool the cabin while the aircraft is on the ground, which requires quite a bit more horsepower than the electricity generation does. Additionally, this compressed air is also used to start the main engines.
@Bartonovich52
9 ай бұрын
There’s a massive amount of rotational inertia in the engine due to how fast the turbine spins. This makes it less susceptible to sudden loading than a piston engine spinning at 10% of the speed. Also the extra fuel can be introduced instantly. Turbine engines are slow to accelerate because of surge margins to prevent compressor stall, but once up to speed you can add fuel as fast as you can open a valve provided you don’t exceed max temps (which is very difficult on this engine due to its very oversized compressor).
@fredleonard15479 ай бұрын
That's a crazy test a small home genset would power those lights.
@dennis-nz5im10 ай бұрын
For my Yankee bros , that’s a snowblower!
@VegasFlyboy8 ай бұрын
I work on the newer versions of the GTCP85’s in a test facility. 180’s, 180-9’s, 180C’s, 180L’s, and 185L(A)’s.
@ProtoHadron10 ай бұрын
i bet your neighbors love you
@davidelliott584310 ай бұрын
All you need now, is a house big enough to use all that heat.
@blacksquirrel40089 ай бұрын
Is there a louder way to make electricity?
@irchrisb9 ай бұрын
Can you change the rectifier to make 60hz?
@askhowiknow55272 ай бұрын
Best diesel generator ever
@onekycarscanners6002
Ай бұрын
How? Longivity or power?
@rhare735310 ай бұрын
I will never complain about my ONAN DJB ever again..
@shaofuchang51510 ай бұрын
Aircraft APUs generally produce 115 V AC voltage at 400 Hz which is a bit of a pickle with lamps used to seeing 115vac at 60/50Hz
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
Filament lamps won't really care. Anything that relies on the cycles will not be happy though...
@sausage584910 ай бұрын
And I get cranky when the neighbor starts up his Honda 5KW genset haha
@royblackburn1163
10 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you, the most annoying generators are other people's lol.
@albertoramonacosta121210 ай бұрын
Good idea bro witch turbine thank
@jeremybennett72079 ай бұрын
Still used today in the Convair 580. Electrical output should be 40KVA
@JohnDoe-es5xh10 ай бұрын
Where were these generators located in the planes? Probably in the rear back tail of the planes.
@procrastinator1842
10 ай бұрын
You can usually see the exhaust right at the tip of the tail.
@randyduncan79510 ай бұрын
How about converting an old APU of about 50HP to natural gas and driving a proper stator for either 50 or 60Hz output as a backup generator? The question is fuel flow. It might do well close to 100% load but likely inefficient at 20%. And I have wonderful neighbors so probably not the best solution.
@sodiumvapor13
10 ай бұрын
I would expect the RPMS would be too high for 50 or 60 Hz. Could use a rectifier with a low-voltage stator to drive a sine inverter?
@randyduncan795
10 ай бұрын
@@sodiumvapor13 Or specify pulleys for the correct RPM.
@MM0IMC3 жыл бұрын
You could always put 50p in the electricity meter. It must be cheaper than aviation fuel! LOL
@pascalcoole272510 ай бұрын
I wass wondering. If i used an old APU to provide electricity in case of blackout.... do you think, my neighbours would notice ?
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
Not if you shared your power with them...
@johnstanczak50759 ай бұрын
Was it hot started? sounds like friction...
@DLRPyro18 ай бұрын
Is that the same setup that is inside a -60?
@darioinfini9 ай бұрын
What would a unit like that usually go into? The back of a passenger airliner?
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
Mostly in the tail cone, but the B-727 has its APU in the right wing forward area, and some of it actually passes through the keel structure.
@wayneheigl554910 ай бұрын
i would love to have that unit . it loves to run on jet A i guess. how many K.W. is it , what is the voltage, and HZ most aircraft equipment uses 300 HZ , is this 300HZ , how do you get one and what is the cost.
@noway9880
9 ай бұрын
400hz at 90kVA at 115/200v typical for the A320. DC power if from generator (even engines) is provided by TRs. Transformer rectifiers. They change AC to DC...there's 2-3 minimum on jets. the 3rd is typically redundant.
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
Actually, standard aircraft Alternating Current is at 400 hz. I'm pretty sure the B-727 aircraft I worked on that used this APU had 20 KVA generators, and the generator on the APU matched the engine-driven generators for compatibility.
@kenuber40148 ай бұрын
That's alot of equipment for 6 light bulbs!!
@forrestallison1879 Жыл бұрын
hearing protection not optional
@williamhudson493810 ай бұрын
The one thing I don't see addressed for the generator, although y'all glossed over it at the beginning, was lightbulbs don't give a sh*t about CPS. Europe uses 50 cps and the U.S. uses 60 cps. The gen set produces 400 CPS. As long as you don't plug in a motor designed for 50-60 cps, you're good.
@sjuas69010 ай бұрын
Can it generate enough power to drive 4 electric motors each with a rotor such that it can lift its own weight, that is could it be used to power a quadcopter?
@tedeby5351
9 ай бұрын
imagine if it directly drove a big rotor
@tedstrikertwa80010 ай бұрын
Upvoting for the channel name alone 😁 That must have loud af. Do you record the db level for any of your tests?
@thewtf
10 ай бұрын
Might be something to try!!
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
@@thewtf Don't, the local EHO might use it as evidence... lol
@jasoncollins90818 ай бұрын
I want my car to sound like that lol, that would beat my neighbors Straight piped Subaru. I be like morning neighbors listen to this lol.
@Doomsday4999 ай бұрын
Need to get myself an APU now to use it in the zombie apocalypse, wonder how long it'd take to charge a big battery bank
@SubvertTheState7 ай бұрын
I've always been a little annoyed with what seems to be the power generating standard of proof. A light bulb. That's fine, and it....lights up when it's working. What would be more impressive would be a good old British 220 Volt electric kettle.
@t0ny7478 ай бұрын
I need one of these for camping. I bet it could run a microwave.
@crapthisisalongusern9 ай бұрын
Kilowatt rating, output?
@slowpoke96Z289 ай бұрын
I wonder if this is more efficient than a diesel generator rated at the same power
@PsRohrbaugh
9 ай бұрын
I highly doubt it. Most APUs are designed to produce "bleed air" in addition to electrical power. If you're unfamiliar, it's high pressure air used to pressurize the cabin and start the main jet engines. So even at maximum electric load, there's a lot of unused capacity for generating the air. Now, you might think "still useful for job site where they use pneumatic tools". Unfortunately, bleed air is around 40 psi, while most pneumatic tools want around 90 psi. I would love for someone to prove me wrong so I have an excuse to buy an APU!
@Charon-5582
9 ай бұрын
Maybe if all the power of the turbine was making electricity...
@russcudney1469
8 ай бұрын
@@Charon-5582let us know how Dr. tesla
@XianboLiu Жыл бұрын
I think it's perfect for my Tesla
@jasonbrindamour9035 ай бұрын
Giggidy!!!
@mickwolf107710 ай бұрын
I can imagine someone taking an apu camping 😅
@obsoleteprofessor203410 ай бұрын
Mine used to be a Solar...International Harvester
@haganstim963510 ай бұрын
Lake whails Florida my uncle lives there
@gasturbine1013 жыл бұрын
I think Paul and I ate all the pies........:-)
@fabriziocastillo786210 ай бұрын
Jet powered gaming rig
@diggraph8 ай бұрын
A bit more technical info would be nice. eg point out what the various bits on the APU are. How much fuel did that run use? Show the volt meter when switching the loads.
@jcjammer19 ай бұрын
Imagine firing that up at a campground.😂
@bobbylong444310 ай бұрын
😂my ears are clean now 😂
@fltTech729 ай бұрын
Needs a much bigger load that unit can drive a 60KVA generator. The downside for power generation use is that it burns just under 4 liters a minute
@datathunderstorm
9 ай бұрын
I wonder if it could be modified to run on LPG.
@timstill1529 ай бұрын
Where is the generator located on the APU? And how is it driven? Direct-drive? Belt? And I was wondering how much the APU weighs? Is it similar at all to the gas turbine used in the 63-64 Chrysler Turbine Car?
@MikeC-mf7dv8 ай бұрын
Massive fuel consumption compared to a normal gas generator>?
@carl417672 жыл бұрын
0:07 that’s a freaking rb211
@MauroPereira10008 ай бұрын
Please sell me one... Is possible to output 60hz?
@moodyga403 жыл бұрын
is it 3 phase @ 120 volts must have a bit of current
@thewtf
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah think so.
@hvfd5956
10 ай бұрын
Most likely 3 phase, 400V and a bunch of amps. Only residential loads use 120/240V. Street Lamps are 277V as are most commercial building lighting. Train engines also make 400V electricity run from car to car for various loads, like air conditioning. Around 2005 I rode on a train at the Texas State Railroad and those units generated 400V AC, guessing 3 phase due to the number of wires in the cable. (thumb size wires!!) 208 and 277 are the outputs of various phase combinations of 3 phase in the Delta or Wye configurations. The difference is in if a neutral is used and where it is connected. It all kind of depends on what kind of load you are trying to drive. I have seen pad mount transformers with 277V at restaurants using higher than normal power for cooking. Top of poles are often 15,550 phase to phase and 14,470 phase to neutral, which is then stepped down to local needs using another in-line transformer. (This is from a recent - 8/2023 interaction with an Oncor crew doing pole maintenance) In my area, many of the pole mounted transformers have had their input disconnected and new service feeds to pad mount transformers directly off of the pole top lines have been installed.
@holysirsalad
10 ай бұрын
What does it matter what sort of power is at the top of the pole? Lots of street lamps on airplanes are there?
@moviestudioland10 ай бұрын
that will light up a GU81
@spykillergames840210 ай бұрын
well we all know what these guys will do during a blackout XD plenty of power to keep at least a few bulbs on albeit 400Hz...
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
At a push the power could be rectified (Large diodes) then fed into a standard solar inverter (Panel input side) for mains power... About £800 for a 8kva unit...
@geoffgeoff1437 ай бұрын
About 180 k VA
@tedstriker75410 ай бұрын
You don't really have anything that could utilize the a/c power that thing can put out. Most were rated around 40 KVA. Kilo Volt Amps. They would run all the electrical power needs of a jet airliner while on the ground. Or replace one of the engine generators if it was inop in the air. They had the same power rating as the engine generators have. Also while providing all that a/c power, they could start the engines using bleed air off their engine compressor. We got a notice that they use 10 times more fuel than an external air conditioning truck and and power cart.
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
You could rectify the output then feed that into a standard solar inverter to get household usable power..
@tedstriker754
10 ай бұрын
And need a fuel truck full of jet fuel to keep it going. @@dougle03
@NetzKanal10 ай бұрын
Can you charge a tesla with it?
@comeasyouare454510 ай бұрын
They aren't fuel efficient, and loud as hell.
@virtualizeeverything10 ай бұрын
duos this burn more or less fuel per watt
@mohinderkaur6671
10 ай бұрын
more
@johnschneider30828 ай бұрын
Looks like great fun, but that’s an awful lot of noise , and $ for fuel just to get 3600 watts.
@privatepilot406410 ай бұрын
What would cost you more? A fuel bill or an electric utility bill?
@nathandevine552
10 ай бұрын
Fuel bill by far
@grayrabbit2211
10 ай бұрын
@@nathandevine552That depends... If gasoline gets around $2.50/gallon, its cheaper for me to run my Honda inverter generator than use the power co.
@nathandevine552
10 ай бұрын
@@grayrabbit2211 if you do the math on kwhours I highly doubt it
@haxeltupi33289 ай бұрын
A 300bhp engine testet with 10kw load? More power plz.
@boathemian769410 ай бұрын
I install Koehler generators if you want something easier
@andrewallen999310 ай бұрын
Light bulbs??????? How about a few electric heaters😀
@williamwinsor7376
10 ай бұрын
He’s just playing with the starter generator but the real power is in the compressor bleed off
@andrewallen9993
10 ай бұрын
@@williamwinsor7376 😁
@hvfd5956
10 ай бұрын
While Electric heaters would be a good resistive load, the engine itself is already producing enough heat to melt an iceberg. Again, the main goal here was to generate the compressed air to spin up a larger engine, which is what this unit was built for.
@holysirsalad
10 ай бұрын
Light bulbs are just inefficient heaters lol
@andrewallen9993
10 ай бұрын
@@holysirsalad yes, they just emit energy at slightly higher frequencys😀
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My neighbors are sooo lucky that I do not have access to such amazing toys. I would run them all day..
@williamvaughan1218
10 ай бұрын
Not with the fuel consumption of that thing you wouldn't.
@scottp1111
10 ай бұрын
You could run them all day, i as your neighbor would sit outside with hearing protection laughing and watching your credit card melt away ….😂
@johnpekkala6941
10 ай бұрын
Im mostly concerned with the nearby lambs exposed to around 120 db of jet noise. I did not see them out there at run time however so I guess they are taken inside before a run so they are not direclty exposed to the deafening noise.
@andreweppink4498
10 ай бұрын
Lousy thermal efficiency, likely. Sucks kerosene like crazy. 30 - 33 % LHV, I'd guess.
@Randrew
9 ай бұрын
@@johnpekkala6941 Jet deafened lambs are more tender.
Perfect standby generator for modern suburbia.
I was building those APUs when Mr Garrett himself would walk thru the assembly area.
@MrThomashorst
9 ай бұрын
Is this the same company wich makes the turbo-loaders?
@LLIBS
9 ай бұрын
@@MrThomashorst😊
@snjert8406
9 ай бұрын
@@MrThomashorst you mean turbochargers? :D
@MrThomashorst
9 ай бұрын
@@snjert8406 yepp ... sorry. we in germany call them "loaders" 😂
@snjert8406
9 ай бұрын
@@MrThomashorst oh I know, I'm German hahahahahaha
Those 3x3kW lamps brightened up my day! 😀
@charlottejet4338
3 жыл бұрын
There was a news report about a collapsed sun lighting up Swansea... 😂
@KlodFather
9 ай бұрын
I'll hold these wires while you throw that switch 😜😜👍👍
World's loudest electricity generation right there. And your wife wouldn't need to run the hair dryer of it, just stand in front of it for a second
@markarca6360
10 ай бұрын
It looks like in a Pantene advert, but it gave the women in the advert dry hair.
@dennis-nz5im
10 ай бұрын
Heat several houses
@PowderMill
10 ай бұрын
👍🏻 PERFECT for use as a home standby Generator…. With HOURLY “self tests”! That SHOULD teach the tyrants in charge a great lesson. Ban all small gasoline fueled engines…. ? How about my new JET-A fueled genes T!?! Thanks for a very entertaining video.
@MrBen527
10 ай бұрын
It has "bleed air" capability for that purpose! 😆
@dennis-nz5im
10 ай бұрын
@@MrBen527 and run it through a cooler like an intercooler and expand it for a/c
if I were your neighbor I will bring my folding chair and watch you guys test that thing.
A sight to behold and music (albeit VERY loud!!) to my ears. Many happy years as an aircraft engineer playing with BAC 1-11 aircraft, including the RR Spey and GTCP85. Great video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
A 300 hp gas rurbine would put out at least 100,000 watts. But it's main mission is to start the bigger engines on the plane using airflow as as a starter motor that make 12,0000+ hp each
@philjjordan6197
10 ай бұрын
WTF is the correct title! 😂
@Andrew-ep4kw
9 ай бұрын
Yup, they do 2 things. Provide electrical power so the startup sequence for the engines doesn't have to rely solely on the batteries, and they supply high pressure (or high flow, forgot which it was) that powers the starters on the main engines.
@GlutenEruption
9 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-ep4kw apus typically put out about 2-4 lbs per second of bleed air at 40-50psi
@dom3827
8 ай бұрын
300 hp is 220 Kilowatts. So double the amount you state. Minus inefficiency, let it be 150.000 Watts.
@PascalGienger
8 ай бұрын
Yes and no. Many bigger airports have ground starting units to provide electricity and pressure so the APU doesn't need to run (noise reasons). On the other hand an APU gives you a huge security margin when you lose an engine to stabilize the electrical aystem and to have power to supply electricity to all avionic systems in case the second engine fails, too. You don't need the RAT then.
9kVA is pretty common for aircraft generators, with the APU being driven directly at a constant speed with the frequency at a nominal 400Hz whilst the main engines obviously change rotational speed significantly so the gen is maintained at 400Hz using a Constant Speed Drive unit (CSD) on older aircraft or an Integrated Drive Generator (IDG). You're right about fuel types...you could probably run a gas turbine engine on sawdust or even flour if you could grind it down fine enough. You know what happens to flour mills when you get a spark!
@fallingwater
10 ай бұрын
I can't believe the Internet doesn't yet have anyone running a turbine on flour. Clearly, this must be remedied.
@elguapo1507
10 ай бұрын
@@fallingwater 😁 👍
@richardpiotrowski2118
10 ай бұрын
Or whiskey. What a terrible waste though.
@elguapo1507
10 ай бұрын
@@richardpiotrowski2118 Something as nice as a Glenlivett shouldn't ever be allowed because there are millions of gallons of Bells available as fuel! 😁
@GeorgeMCMLIX
10 ай бұрын
A sight to behold and music (albeit VERY loud!!) to my ears. Many happy years as an aircraft engineer playing with BAC 1-11 aircraft, including the RR Spey and GTCP85. Great video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Running light bulbs has never been so much fun!
You guys have the best toys.
Another fabulous WTF production! ☺️
I like the anti-theft device. No annotation on the control box whatsoever.
This particular APU looks like the thing they installed in the wheel well of a 727. Back in the day, I had a mechanic show me HOW to get the APU to run while the airplane was flying; This was an ultra ultra EMERGENCY procedure, because a running APU WOULD BURN THE TOP OF THE RIGHT WING ROOT. If you lost all your generators for some reason, you could pull down the APU panel, pull two wires off, and when connected, if the gear was down the APU would fire up. Again, an ULTRA EMERGENCY procedure and I certainly would NEVER NEVER tell a Fed/check airman about this.....But it CAN be done.
@JCarey1988
9 ай бұрын
Was it a design flaw that let it burn the wing root? And also what kind of emergency would justify that?
@Flies2FLL
9 ай бұрын
@@JCarey1988 Lose all your generators due to whatever; You are now down to standby power, powered by the battery, which will last you oh, about 30 minutes. You are flying in IFR conditions. Do you have any other stupid questions?
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
@@JCarey1988 The exhaust from the APU was carried via a duct to an outlet on the upper wing surface near the root , with a grate to prevent big FOD items from falling in to the APU. Originally designed with a door, but those were a major problem for dependaility and almost all were subsequently removed.
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
@@Flies2FLL No need to be rude. WIth it's three completely independent electrical systems, it would almost certainly take a three- engine-failure event to lose all electric power, and with that, you haven't got thirty minutes to sort that out.
@Flies2FLL
9 ай бұрын
@@paulcrumley9756 First of all, there are four independent electrical systems, with standby power the fourth and final system. You are down to battery power at this point. Loss of all generators can and has been caused by what is known as a feeder fault. If one of the main electrical lines from the generator experiences a major short circuit, it can cause a voltage surge that will knock all three GCU's [generator control units] off line and could possibly damage them, rendering the plane down to standby power. At this point you are not having a good day. You have about 30 minutes of battery time in which to get on the ground. The plane flies just fine without electricals, but you may not have lights, radios, or FLIGHT INSTRUMENTS in short order if you aren't on the ground yesterday.... One other issue that this malfunction can trigger is that once you are safely on the ground, the low beer light may begin flashing brightly. There is no checklist for this issue, the solution is obvious.
what an awesome bit of kit ,didnt realise u guys were down my way lol i do love anything that combusts fuel
Just amazing. Thanks for sharing. I am a total aviation Geek.
Turbine power generators are actually pretty common around the world. They have the advantage that they can run on basically any fuel including gas and diesel. I'm curious, could this run on any fuel? Would that work? hearing protection not optional
@brianmurphy8790
10 ай бұрын
Some liquid fuels wouldn't provide enough lubrication for the fuel pump - such as petrol. However, you could mix some oil into the petrol to help with that problem. You'd have to mess around with different air/fuel ratios for each different fuel. All turbines will run on all kinds of fuels - with the right fuel delivery system.
@forrestallison1879
10 ай бұрын
@@brianmurphy8790 I see, interesting that it's the fuel pump. So those turbines that are designed for flex fuels probably have specially designed fuel pumps
@raygale4198
10 ай бұрын
I worked on larger Allison 501 industrial engines a long time ago, different fuels may require different nozzles and fuel manifolds depending on the energy density of the fuel. I worked on some dual fuel engines that had liquid fuel and gas fuel systems. The liquid systems normal sized nozzles and standard fuel piping. Low energy gas fuel (Methane) had huge nozzles and an almost doughnut like fuel manifold ring around the engine to admit the larger volume of gas needed fast enough. Add super heated steam re-injection and it gets very complicated in there.
@smokeandsteamxsw9831
9 ай бұрын
400 cycles will burn your house down. We run 60 cycles. If you can rewire generator to put out 60 cycles then ok.
@KlodFather
9 ай бұрын
@@smokeandsteamxsw9831 - No it will not... 400 is no more dangerous than 50 or 60. I don't know where you got that idea, but all the electronics you have with switching power supplies, the lamp dimmers, and most other things are OK on 400 hz. Transformers in some cases do not like it and motors try to sync up with the frequency so AC fans and some washing machines are not OK with it. But for running lights and electronics and motorized things that utilize a switching power supply? Bullocks. Its back to school my son.
I wish I had one of these. Because I would actually legitimately use it for something. I’ve had this idea for an awesome long range RC boat for so long and one of those would be so amazing for it.😩
Garrett AiResearch, who built that APU, was acquired by AlliedSignal and then merged with Honeywell.
@UHOH3300
10 ай бұрын
Correct. We still make APUs to this day (I work at honeywell)
I've started many an APU, but never like this! If it weren't so loud, it would make a great backup home generator, I bet.
@PascalGienger
8 ай бұрын
I think you wouldn't like the daily fuel truck deliveries including the bills..
@nicoleibundgut534
8 ай бұрын
Great in sense of flexibility because you kinda can run many different fuels. You can insultate this engines quite good because the noise frequency is very high.
If only there a way of harvesting the amount of noise it makes
First thing that I saw was a Miami Beach Florida from Miami Beach🤗🤣
i could picture myself firing that thing up in the garden for a load of dirty clothes and letting rip 2.5h 😂😂😂
that would make an great range extender for an electric car :-)
@istochnikov45257
2 ай бұрын
I'd use it for maaaaany things... - The exhaust of the APU can be used for a gasifier that can generate syngas for feeding the APU - The pneumatic bleed can be used of another processes (smelting?) - Also the exhaust can feed a steam cycle... The possibilities are infinite...
Justin Our contest group are on the lookout for a nice compact quiet generator to power our station during next month's VHF national field day. I'm sure one of these would fit the bill very nicely:-) 73 de Steve M0KOV
@thewtf
3 жыл бұрын
Plenty of power if nothing else!!!
My neighbors would definitely know when my lights were being turned on.
Just what i need for the next camping trip
@SubTroppo
10 ай бұрын
Don't you mean "glamping". Reminds me of a national park camping trip here in Qld. The camp-site neighbours were a group of middle-aged school teachers "cutting loose". A peaceful mountain morning was interrupted by one of them trying to get a chainsaw going to cut firewood. Fortunately he never managed it and quickly gave up.
Great fun :) --- a bit like getting a D9 to dig a flower pot though 🤣
It sounds very like the jet engines running the ambulance helicopter which used to land at a hospital almost next to where I used to reside for work purposes. One thing I noticed is that they would never just shut down the engines after landing. They always left the engines running for around two minutes following a landing before shutting the engines down. I presume this was to allow the cooling system to remove most of the heat before shutting them down completely. It's not difficult to imagine that the coolant and/or the lubricant would boil from the residual heat if they simply turned off the engines.
@fightingfalconfan
9 ай бұрын
Jet engines are cooled by the air coming in. Commercial engines are known as high bypass. So most of the air they take in is as the name implies; bypassed from the combustion chamber and used used for cooling the chamber down and on commercial airliners it's also the main thrust. Jet fighters are known as low bypass; so most of the air is actually burned. This is known as a APU. or Auxilery Power Unit. This little engine runs when the main one is off or just starting up. It also provides bypass air for the compressor to start spooling during engine start up. Helicopters like the one's you used to watch are known as turbo shafts. They have a jet engine that drives a reduction gearbox that powers the main and tail rotors (depending on design). Instead of using the engine's thrust, they use the rotational force of the turbine. Same concept with the turbo props. Jet engine is connected to a reduction gearbox that rotates a propeller.
@melkiorwiseman5234
9 ай бұрын
@@fightingfalconfan I knew most of that except for the difference between high bypass and low bypass engines. Thanks.
@Holeyguagaamoley
9 ай бұрын
Yes , that’s exactly what it’s for. I was surprised that I could not get straight out of the helicopter when we landed but would have to sit there awkwardly looking at the ground crew waiting for the temps to drop.
Nice video. Do you by chance have access to the GTCP36-6 maintenance and parts manuals. I have a surplus APU that i would like to get running for a project.
Finally a proper way to fast charge your tesla at home!🎉
Love the Garrett turbine Shout out from Prescott AZ
Lightbulb dummy load-makes me think of a lightbulb load made up for a 10kw AM broadcast transmitter having over 10 1kw tower top beacon bulbs-1 kw each. Lit up nice and brightly flashed during 100 % modulation.
@markarca6360
10 ай бұрын
It is like in a hydroelectric or wind power generation which have dummy loads or dump loads, (My concept is wiring the dump load to a water heater, so that the excess energy can be used in heating water for household or commercial use), or in FM radio, which they connect the transmitter to a dummy load for maintainance and testing purposes in place of antennae.
@rexoliver7780
10 ай бұрын
@@markarca6360 that is what the lightbulb load was for. At a gov’t VOA studio plat they have a 750kw Cat genset for backup power. It is equipped with a large nichrome wire wound load for testing.
I enjoyed that :-)
In a diesel generator an old rule of thumb is 1/2 pint per KVA per hour at full load for a fairly modern turbocharged diesel engine. I wonder what the consumption is with this? I ran lots of Cummins KTA 50 engines in the desert on JP8. We had 20X 50 liter 1250KVA units running in a synchronized plant in various locations.
@rushymoto
9 ай бұрын
@@smithy1833 and how many KW?
Interesting that the whine of the turbine doesn’t vary at all when the 9 KW load is introduced.
@PascalGienger
8 ай бұрын
That beast outputs 150 - 200 kW. That's like putting a 20 watts lamp in your wall socket...
Was this one used on KC-135A’s?
That's cool. Its my first time watching "The WTF" channel. The farm they are on looks like it could be in the U.S. Midwest. I live in Missouri, and the surrounding natural setting in NSW looks a lot like where I grew up on the north edge of the Ozarks. Edit: I know nothing about airplanes other than the basic components (wings, engines, rudder, engines, APU, etc.). Do airplanes use AC current or DC? Can the APU run basic instrumentation when plane isn't hooked to ground supply with no engines running? Anyway, dumb questions, but thanks!
I'm getting one for camping. My camp ground neighbors will love me... no stinking quite Honda Generator. I'm pretty sure fuel burn to KW is not economical.
Brilliant! Is it electronically governed or rated to a fraction of what it's actually producing in HP? Because it didn't seem to waver when the 6Kw of bulbs lit up and turbines don't respond like IC engines to sudden loading.
@TehMG
10 ай бұрын
The alternator needs only a fraction of the power that this turbine engine produces, that's why you hardly notice the 9kW of load. In an aircraft, the APU does a lot more than just produce electricity. It outputs compressed air (known as "bleed air") which can run the air conditioning packs to heat or cool the cabin while the aircraft is on the ground, which requires quite a bit more horsepower than the electricity generation does. Additionally, this compressed air is also used to start the main engines.
@Bartonovich52
9 ай бұрын
There’s a massive amount of rotational inertia in the engine due to how fast the turbine spins. This makes it less susceptible to sudden loading than a piston engine spinning at 10% of the speed. Also the extra fuel can be introduced instantly. Turbine engines are slow to accelerate because of surge margins to prevent compressor stall, but once up to speed you can add fuel as fast as you can open a valve provided you don’t exceed max temps (which is very difficult on this engine due to its very oversized compressor).
That's a crazy test a small home genset would power those lights.
For my Yankee bros , that’s a snowblower!
I work on the newer versions of the GTCP85’s in a test facility. 180’s, 180-9’s, 180C’s, 180L’s, and 185L(A)’s.
i bet your neighbors love you
All you need now, is a house big enough to use all that heat.
Is there a louder way to make electricity?
Can you change the rectifier to make 60hz?
Best diesel generator ever
@onekycarscanners6002
Ай бұрын
How? Longivity or power?
I will never complain about my ONAN DJB ever again..
Aircraft APUs generally produce 115 V AC voltage at 400 Hz which is a bit of a pickle with lamps used to seeing 115vac at 60/50Hz
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
Filament lamps won't really care. Anything that relies on the cycles will not be happy though...
And I get cranky when the neighbor starts up his Honda 5KW genset haha
@royblackburn1163
10 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you, the most annoying generators are other people's lol.
Good idea bro witch turbine thank
Still used today in the Convair 580. Electrical output should be 40KVA
Where were these generators located in the planes? Probably in the rear back tail of the planes.
@procrastinator1842
10 ай бұрын
You can usually see the exhaust right at the tip of the tail.
How about converting an old APU of about 50HP to natural gas and driving a proper stator for either 50 or 60Hz output as a backup generator? The question is fuel flow. It might do well close to 100% load but likely inefficient at 20%. And I have wonderful neighbors so probably not the best solution.
@sodiumvapor13
10 ай бұрын
I would expect the RPMS would be too high for 50 or 60 Hz. Could use a rectifier with a low-voltage stator to drive a sine inverter?
@randyduncan795
10 ай бұрын
@@sodiumvapor13 Or specify pulleys for the correct RPM.
You could always put 50p in the electricity meter. It must be cheaper than aviation fuel! LOL
I wass wondering. If i used an old APU to provide electricity in case of blackout.... do you think, my neighbours would notice ?
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
Not if you shared your power with them...
Was it hot started? sounds like friction...
Is that the same setup that is inside a -60?
What would a unit like that usually go into? The back of a passenger airliner?
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
Mostly in the tail cone, but the B-727 has its APU in the right wing forward area, and some of it actually passes through the keel structure.
i would love to have that unit . it loves to run on jet A i guess. how many K.W. is it , what is the voltage, and HZ most aircraft equipment uses 300 HZ , is this 300HZ , how do you get one and what is the cost.
@noway9880
9 ай бұрын
400hz at 90kVA at 115/200v typical for the A320. DC power if from generator (even engines) is provided by TRs. Transformer rectifiers. They change AC to DC...there's 2-3 minimum on jets. the 3rd is typically redundant.
@paulcrumley9756
9 ай бұрын
Actually, standard aircraft Alternating Current is at 400 hz. I'm pretty sure the B-727 aircraft I worked on that used this APU had 20 KVA generators, and the generator on the APU matched the engine-driven generators for compatibility.
That's alot of equipment for 6 light bulbs!!
hearing protection not optional
The one thing I don't see addressed for the generator, although y'all glossed over it at the beginning, was lightbulbs don't give a sh*t about CPS. Europe uses 50 cps and the U.S. uses 60 cps. The gen set produces 400 CPS. As long as you don't plug in a motor designed for 50-60 cps, you're good.
Can it generate enough power to drive 4 electric motors each with a rotor such that it can lift its own weight, that is could it be used to power a quadcopter?
@tedeby5351
9 ай бұрын
imagine if it directly drove a big rotor
Upvoting for the channel name alone 😁 That must have loud af. Do you record the db level for any of your tests?
@thewtf
10 ай бұрын
Might be something to try!!
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
@@thewtf Don't, the local EHO might use it as evidence... lol
I want my car to sound like that lol, that would beat my neighbors Straight piped Subaru. I be like morning neighbors listen to this lol.
Need to get myself an APU now to use it in the zombie apocalypse, wonder how long it'd take to charge a big battery bank
I've always been a little annoyed with what seems to be the power generating standard of proof. A light bulb. That's fine, and it....lights up when it's working. What would be more impressive would be a good old British 220 Volt electric kettle.
I need one of these for camping. I bet it could run a microwave.
Kilowatt rating, output?
I wonder if this is more efficient than a diesel generator rated at the same power
@PsRohrbaugh
9 ай бұрын
I highly doubt it. Most APUs are designed to produce "bleed air" in addition to electrical power. If you're unfamiliar, it's high pressure air used to pressurize the cabin and start the main jet engines. So even at maximum electric load, there's a lot of unused capacity for generating the air. Now, you might think "still useful for job site where they use pneumatic tools". Unfortunately, bleed air is around 40 psi, while most pneumatic tools want around 90 psi. I would love for someone to prove me wrong so I have an excuse to buy an APU!
@Charon-5582
9 ай бұрын
Maybe if all the power of the turbine was making electricity...
@russcudney1469
8 ай бұрын
@@Charon-5582let us know how Dr. tesla
I think it's perfect for my Tesla
Giggidy!!!
I can imagine someone taking an apu camping 😅
Mine used to be a Solar...International Harvester
Lake whails Florida my uncle lives there
I think Paul and I ate all the pies........:-)
Jet powered gaming rig
A bit more technical info would be nice. eg point out what the various bits on the APU are. How much fuel did that run use? Show the volt meter when switching the loads.
Imagine firing that up at a campground.😂
😂my ears are clean now 😂
Needs a much bigger load that unit can drive a 60KVA generator. The downside for power generation use is that it burns just under 4 liters a minute
@datathunderstorm
9 ай бұрын
I wonder if it could be modified to run on LPG.
Where is the generator located on the APU? And how is it driven? Direct-drive? Belt? And I was wondering how much the APU weighs? Is it similar at all to the gas turbine used in the 63-64 Chrysler Turbine Car?
Massive fuel consumption compared to a normal gas generator>?
0:07 that’s a freaking rb211
Please sell me one... Is possible to output 60hz?
is it 3 phase @ 120 volts must have a bit of current
@thewtf
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah think so.
@hvfd5956
10 ай бұрын
Most likely 3 phase, 400V and a bunch of amps. Only residential loads use 120/240V. Street Lamps are 277V as are most commercial building lighting. Train engines also make 400V electricity run from car to car for various loads, like air conditioning. Around 2005 I rode on a train at the Texas State Railroad and those units generated 400V AC, guessing 3 phase due to the number of wires in the cable. (thumb size wires!!) 208 and 277 are the outputs of various phase combinations of 3 phase in the Delta or Wye configurations. The difference is in if a neutral is used and where it is connected. It all kind of depends on what kind of load you are trying to drive. I have seen pad mount transformers with 277V at restaurants using higher than normal power for cooking. Top of poles are often 15,550 phase to phase and 14,470 phase to neutral, which is then stepped down to local needs using another in-line transformer. (This is from a recent - 8/2023 interaction with an Oncor crew doing pole maintenance) In my area, many of the pole mounted transformers have had their input disconnected and new service feeds to pad mount transformers directly off of the pole top lines have been installed.
@holysirsalad
10 ай бұрын
What does it matter what sort of power is at the top of the pole? Lots of street lamps on airplanes are there?
that will light up a GU81
well we all know what these guys will do during a blackout XD plenty of power to keep at least a few bulbs on albeit 400Hz...
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
At a push the power could be rectified (Large diodes) then fed into a standard solar inverter (Panel input side) for mains power... About £800 for a 8kva unit...
About 180 k VA
You don't really have anything that could utilize the a/c power that thing can put out. Most were rated around 40 KVA. Kilo Volt Amps. They would run all the electrical power needs of a jet airliner while on the ground. Or replace one of the engine generators if it was inop in the air. They had the same power rating as the engine generators have. Also while providing all that a/c power, they could start the engines using bleed air off their engine compressor. We got a notice that they use 10 times more fuel than an external air conditioning truck and and power cart.
@dougle03
10 ай бұрын
You could rectify the output then feed that into a standard solar inverter to get household usable power..
@tedstriker754
10 ай бұрын
And need a fuel truck full of jet fuel to keep it going. @@dougle03
Can you charge a tesla with it?
They aren't fuel efficient, and loud as hell.
duos this burn more or less fuel per watt
@mohinderkaur6671
10 ай бұрын
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Looks like great fun, but that’s an awful lot of noise , and $ for fuel just to get 3600 watts.
What would cost you more? A fuel bill or an electric utility bill?
@nathandevine552
10 ай бұрын
Fuel bill by far
@grayrabbit2211
10 ай бұрын
@@nathandevine552That depends... If gasoline gets around $2.50/gallon, its cheaper for me to run my Honda inverter generator than use the power co.
@nathandevine552
10 ай бұрын
@@grayrabbit2211 if you do the math on kwhours I highly doubt it
A 300bhp engine testet with 10kw load? More power plz.
I install Koehler generators if you want something easier
Light bulbs??????? How about a few electric heaters😀
@williamwinsor7376
10 ай бұрын
He’s just playing with the starter generator but the real power is in the compressor bleed off
@andrewallen9993
10 ай бұрын
@@williamwinsor7376 😁
@hvfd5956
10 ай бұрын
While Electric heaters would be a good resistive load, the engine itself is already producing enough heat to melt an iceberg. Again, the main goal here was to generate the compressed air to spin up a larger engine, which is what this unit was built for.
@holysirsalad
10 ай бұрын
Light bulbs are just inefficient heaters lol
@andrewallen9993
10 ай бұрын
@@holysirsalad yes, they just emit energy at slightly higher frequencys😀