Electrical Troubleshooting A Electric Exterior Wall-Mount Heater

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No heat service call for a Bard exterior wall mount heater being used on a job site trailer.
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  • @lqueryvg666
    @lqueryvg6669 ай бұрын

    You know the funniest thing about your videos is that you verbalize your thoughts! We also have those "thoughts/voices/etc" running around our melons during troubleshooting procedures - but at least we can follow YOU and YOUR thought processes!!! Another great vid....

  • @Neto-1984
    @Neto-19846 ай бұрын

    Smart and efficient on using a squencer for your delay off on the fan..."Improvise, adapt, overcome” Sgt. Tom Highway- Heartbreak Ridge

  • @shifter8207
    @shifter82079 ай бұрын

    Nice working on a Bard Rick. I see lots of those where I work

  • @jasonjohnsonHVAC
    @jasonjohnsonHVAC9 ай бұрын

    Nicely done. A nice simple circuit for demonstration purposes. Format was also cool. You explained your thought process and gave details on why or why not to do something.....and you snuck it in on a Saturday.....🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @markjohnson9964
    @markjohnson99649 ай бұрын

    Brings back memories of a 3 phase wall hung 460 volt heat pump on a medical imaging trailer!! Previous company had said they needed a forklift to remove it and take it to thier shop!!!!! All that was wrong was the blade had fallen off the condenser motor!!!! Fixed in a jiffy?!

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    I have a video of doing a imaging trailer from earlier this year

  • @joefrance6599
    @joefrance65994 ай бұрын

    Nice job thinking and making work as it should. You saved a call back because the high limit tripped because the heat strips were still warm.

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @nathanhurst5155
    @nathanhurst51559 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video man. Loved the non editing and taking us thorough your whole process and thinking out loud. You made that ol piece much more reliable and simple. 👍👌

  • @Aden5742
    @Aden57429 ай бұрын

    Mars 33241 Wow. I learned today! Thanks for video

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Cool 👍👍

  • @rafaelgomez4304
    @rafaelgomez43049 ай бұрын

    Worked on a lot of those in Rikers Island. Great video 👍🏼

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    🙏👍👍 thank you!

  • @helmsajr
    @helmsajr9 ай бұрын

    Good job Rick

  • @topher8634
    @topher86349 ай бұрын

    You used to get those 90340 relays with a separate time delay board that went over the coil terminals. I saw/replaced a lot of them on the old Trane and American Standard air handlers.

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Interesting to hear. The Lennox Pulse used to have a time board like that.

  • @HardKnocks101
    @HardKnocks1019 ай бұрын

    I like the music too

  • @latinoheat61987
    @latinoheat619873 ай бұрын

    That guy is amazing

  • @bryandierken8794
    @bryandierken87949 ай бұрын

    That was a good video , back to basics

  • @aquaticspecialities5382
    @aquaticspecialities53829 ай бұрын

    Good one Rick!!!!

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle59069 ай бұрын

    job site trailers, that remind some, we've not been called to work on any for quite some time. got called to do a bunch of odds and ends, flooring, door closers, lights/bulbs, various repairs. cannot say we've had any for a good handful of years now, then again all their projects nearby have dried up and they are mainly further away than we will go(short term)

  • @davidnull5590
    @davidnull55909 ай бұрын

    I'd wager that unit came from the factory with some way of keeping the fan running after the heat strips shutoff ... Then Some BillyBob came along to "fix" something and tore the factory stuff out - Hey Boss, I fixed it!

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    🤫😉🤣🤣👍👍

  • @dougking7592
    @dougking75929 ай бұрын

    Good video brother, I always like when the diagrams are not readable or just gone , make the wiring work the simple way/your on way and try not to mess the next guy up

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks brother🤜🤛👍👍

  • @txsviking
    @txsviking9 ай бұрын

    Pretty slick.

  • @Randylazz
    @Randylazz9 ай бұрын

    I give this video a 12 out 10!! Great job man✌️

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks Randy! I haven't seen you for a while 👍👍

  • @zekenzy6486
    @zekenzy64869 ай бұрын

    Great Video. Thank you for sharing. Have a nice weekend

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks you too!

  • @nastyhvacr
    @nastyhvacr9 ай бұрын

    Cool video Rick

  • @eeeeweeezeee
    @eeeeweeezeee9 ай бұрын

    Ah, the Bard wall hungs. Much of my education was in portable buildings served by those. Also very popular with radio tower equipment sheds.

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    I've done several radio towers with these. I had 17 stations all over Ohio I had to service, I brought a 55 gallon drum of water and washed them out.

  • @CM-ou4zr
    @CM-ou4zr9 ай бұрын

    I'm impressed you filmed while standing on the leaning ladder. Worked on quite a few of these in rural WY I always end up dropping something into the weeds below. Hope all is well man

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    I love my camera mount, it works great. Thanks for watching!

  • @Ted_E_Bear
    @Ted_E_Bear9 ай бұрын

    Rick, I enjoy your videos !

  • @danpresson
    @danpresson9 ай бұрын

    Awesome video ilove how you explain what you are doing

  • @786otto
    @786otto9 ай бұрын

    That was amazing repair.

  • @johnwalker890
    @johnwalker8909 ай бұрын

    Good job Rick.

  • @stevencossaboon3237
    @stevencossaboon32379 ай бұрын

    Nice work Rick.

  • @brucesayre3559
    @brucesayre35599 ай бұрын

    Good video! Keep them rolling Rick.

  • @stephenbullock-yn3vh
    @stephenbullock-yn3vh9 ай бұрын

    Excellent fix great information 👍

  • @MikeB9771
    @MikeB97719 ай бұрын

    Love your train of thought and how you went about telling us what you were doing. Awesome video Ricky.

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @rickr6908
    @rickr69089 ай бұрын

    You did a very nice job of cleaning up a big mess, not to mention the electrical hazard. I liked your verbal thouhgt process you were easy to follow. Thanks for the video.

  • @user-ge5le4ku6j
    @user-ge5le4ku6j9 ай бұрын

    great job , you can tell you have great work ethics, with knowledge

  • @mitchell8204
    @mitchell82048 ай бұрын

    Can you explain relays and sequencers in some more detail sometime? They tend to confuse me especially when wired like you did in parallel. I understand that they turn on the fan or heat strips but for example in coleman furnaces where everything is controlled with two relays with like 7 wires each its hard for me to understand. Thanks for everything I really enjoy your videos. You and my boss could pass for twins 😂

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    8 ай бұрын

    That’s interesting, why don’t you email me a picture of him. At the same time can you send me a picture of the wiring diagram that you’re talking about and I’ll see if I can explain it.

  • @MariosACandRefrigeration
    @MariosACandRefrigeration9 ай бұрын

    I have to give you a 9,no 24v fuse.LOL.

  • @FPHA697
    @FPHA6979 ай бұрын

    Another quality job brother!

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Much appreciated!

  • @billmiller5075
    @billmiller50759 ай бұрын

    Great job

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks Bill

  • @EverythingHVACR
    @EverythingHVACR9 ай бұрын

    Great content, brother! You're smarter than you look 😂

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks, I think? 🤣

  • @joeshearer1247
    @joeshearer12479 ай бұрын

    If you wanted to throw a icm255 on the truck would have replaced that original time delay fan relay board or done the same thing you wanted

  • @topher8634
    @topher86349 ай бұрын

    The high voltage on the low voltage probably came from the strip/blower interlock. Those snap action stats won't close R-G on a call for heat so you would connect one leg of strip load to NC side of 90340 with the blower on Common. That way blower will run regardless if strips are called for with no G or with G. With electronic stats the interlock is a redundancy because you can usually configure the stat to control fan and provide extended run. Someone put the interlock on the wrong terminal. Ive run into this before early in my career. A 90340 relay was replaced for the blower but instead of blower being connected to common the line was connected there. The interlock was omitted because with the relay wired like this it will run strips constantly. Sometimes the interlock would bring the blower on in a lower speed as well. Kinda late but i remembered this and thought I'd share it.

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    I appreciate the info, I think someone misplaced the wire when the time delay relay was removed.

  • @joehead1294
    @joehead12949 ай бұрын

    One thing I don't like about that style crimper is when using the insulated terminal nests the PVC sleeve while being crimped will migrate outwards and interfere between the jaws and possibly prevent a effective crush upon the barrel of the terminal. Doesn't always happen, but sometimes it does. Have seen it happen, why I went to the non-insulated crimp nests. Looked like an old W-R mercury bulb t/stat. Nice! Kinda hard to get rid of though, eh?

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Depending on where you align the jaws... I place it closer to the spayed or eyelet side than the wire side.

  • @shifter8207
    @shifter82079 ай бұрын

    Weird fault having 120v on w. Normally on those the red wire in the harness goes to l2 on the load side and when the heating call goes through the limit it sends the other leg of 120v to the fan motor through Nc on the relay. It’s funny those old integrated fan boards have a delay off and when you put a relay in you remove that but the ironic part is the newer bards don’t even have a delay off and use regular old fan relays as well

  • @phillipgroom9187
    @phillipgroom91878 ай бұрын

    New to the channel, been in hvac awhile work on a lots of gas fired furnaces not a lot of electric heat. Question what was the time out on the sequencer you installed? Thanks for the video. Hope to watch and learn more about electric heat. Have a blessed day !

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    8 ай бұрын

    I thought it was on the box in the video? Out of memory I believe it shuts off in 45 seconds to a minute something. The on-time doesn't matter because the contactors immediate

  • @phillipgroom9187

    @phillipgroom9187

    8 ай бұрын

    @@HVACRSurvival great thanks, sorry I didn’t catch it if it was on the box.

  • @jman0870
    @jman08709 ай бұрын

    You're supposed to run your blower through the NC terminal on the blower relay powered by the heat contactor so that the heat contactor turns the blower on and then any stat can be used, not just a digital with a programmable blower.

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    I know what your saying but that ship passed a while go with all the modifications that have been done to it.

  • @jman0870

    @jman0870

    9 ай бұрын

    @@HVACRSurvival fair enough 🤷‍♂️

  • @musicnerd72
    @musicnerd729 ай бұрын

    "Trustess me"! 🤣 Unfortunately too many yahoos like that out there.

  • @randysmith3828
    @randysmith38289 ай бұрын

    I had similar fan issue. I had a burnt up blower motor, and a bad fan relay on a 30 yr old Lennox heat pump. Speed tap used for electric heat was wired to normal closed contacts on the relay then to a sequencer which was used to also energize the electric elements. But G was getting energized on emergency heat and bring on the high speed tap used for AC (normal open contacts) I could not for the life of me figure out why they wired it that way. The only thing I came up with is, I have a Honeywell 8000 stat, and G is energized on a call for emergency heat. I bet the original stat from 30 years ago did not energize G on emergency heat and used the sequencer to bring on the fan.

  • @renj6531
    @renj65319 ай бұрын

    the old white rodgers 1f56 444

  • @daleborg9070
    @daleborg90709 ай бұрын

    Good job Rick. I would liked to have found out where the 124v was coming from on the W wire. With that fried wire on the contactor, did it somehow get fried inside and pick up 124v from the power leg?

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    It came from the normal closed contact on the fan relay.

  • @tinymanthebeast
    @tinymanthebeast9 ай бұрын

    luckily no hornets. I can see a nest to the right inside the panel

  • @throttlebottle5906

    @throttlebottle5906

    9 ай бұрын

    looked like "mud daubers" mud nests, while they can sting, if provoked, they generally avoid conflict and are focused on their tasks. 😉

  • @throttlebottle5906
    @throttlebottle59069 ай бұрын

    hurry up and lick the W terminal with both hands on the steel case. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    I almost touched it.

  • @user-vb4pj9nb6z
    @user-vb4pj9nb6z9 ай бұрын

    120+VAC doesn’t tingle much past the elbow.

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Very true, and only a little further if you're standing in water. However if you're standing on that fiberglass ladder and not touching ground you wouldn't feel a thing.

  • @renj6531
    @renj65319 ай бұрын

    is that one of those baird wall mount units?

  • @scottkrempel3005
    @scottkrempel30059 ай бұрын

    didn't you cut the common wire off the terminal strip before you checked g to c?

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    It was a redundant common

  • @harrydickson4575
    @harrydickson45759 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @joeshearer1247
    @joeshearer12479 ай бұрын

    Interesting redundant failsafe for the blower

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    😁👍👍

  • @MrJujubean
    @MrJujubean8 ай бұрын

    How in the world did that not fry the xformer?

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    8 ай бұрын

    I think the heat anticipator was the weakest link so it went before the transformer.

  • @RaRaCruz
    @RaRaCruz7 ай бұрын

    My cadet electric wall heater was working just fine. All out of the blue it just started blowing cold air. The fan blows. Tested thermostat and works. Kicks in when i set it at warmer temp but just blows cold. I hit reset button, didn’t work, i reset the circuit breaker, no change. Is there a way to fix it or do i have to go buy a new one?

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    7 ай бұрын

    I don’t know your capabilities, so you take all the risks of damage or possible death... You’ll need an electric meter to check the resistance of the heater element with the power TURNED off and element isolated. then you have to test the thermostat, it should be closed when calling for heat, finally you should check the limit switch and verify its closed. All these things should be checked with the power turned off and verified that its 0 volts AC. each component should be tested by its self with the power off. This is just the basics.

  • @RaRaCruz

    @RaRaCruz

    7 ай бұрын

    @@HVACRSurvivalthanks so much!!! Truly appreciate it

  • @frankspliff7037
    @frankspliff70379 ай бұрын

    I know Jim bob JR

  • @Eddy63
    @Eddy639 ай бұрын

    I always liked troubleshooting electrical ... Nice job as usual & very informative ... Nice stream last Saturday with the Misfits ... Thx

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    9 ай бұрын

    Awesome Eddy, I appreciate that👍👍

  • @aaronclark1599
    @aaronclark15998 ай бұрын

    Smart guy.. Nice video

  • @HVACRSurvival

    @HVACRSurvival

    8 ай бұрын

    I’m glad you liked the video 👍👍🤜🤛

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