One of the reasons why I love this channel so much is; we may not necessarily have the skills to do what you teach, but you give us the extra bullets in our guns when it comes to knowing if we're getting burned by what ever tradesman is working on our homes, who to talk to if that's the case, and which questions to ask to make sure they're real pros vs. someone just trying to make an extra buck. It's like you've said in the past, "no one loves your home as much as you do!" You've helped me with a ton of stuff so thank you for that. I really appreciate everything you do. For a lot of us you've become the insulation between the words can, and can't when it comes to home DIY.

Jeff and Dustin's channels are my most watched channels. Have been for the last year and half. I was so excited to see my two most watched guys chat it out together.

Dedicated circuits should consider motor starting loads. You might get away with running two freezers on the same circuit for maybe months, but eventually they will both want to start at the same moment, like after a power failure, and then the breaker will be thrown off.

58:41 NEC 406.4(D)(2)(b) allows a GFCI to be used as a code compliant ungrounded replacement as long as it's properly labeled as "no equipment ground" (why the GFCI come with a variety of stickers). It has to be connected properly to the existing wiring and it changes how down stream devices are wired, but it will fully function since it ground faults to itself but doesn't provide an actual ground (hence the required sticker). It's a not cheap, but cheaper than rewiring, way to get safe three prong outlets into a home with older wiring.

@GoldenAura32

11 ай бұрын

If I knew that 2 years ago I could have saved myself a lot of financial headache. Oh well, the work got done.

@willschultz5452

9 ай бұрын

Yes you are correct!! Alot of inspectors don't know this.

Marettes are named after William P. Marr, the Ontario electrician that invented the twist-on wire connectors. Marrette is basically to wire nuts what Kleenex is to tissues. I guess the trade name stuck around in Canada but not in the US.

@dunckeroo1987

11 ай бұрын

And Marr connector refers to the set-screw type vs twist-on type of hat connectors.

I was quite meticulous when I wired my first basement, to the point that the inspector declared it better than most/many pro jobs.

Thanks for joining everyone. Let me know who you want to see on the channel next. See you next Tuesday at 5pm EST for our next live show. Cheers! Watch past live collabs👉🏼kzread.info/head/PL34cQkzKfXWaahHWw7zdEX93izEoL0lXb

@RalphSanabria

11 ай бұрын

You are so cool

Sweet...two of my fave KZreadrs! Love these sessions that Jeff puts together!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

Glad you like them! Who would you like next?

@jdshear01

11 ай бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY One of my favorite KZreadr's is @The Handyman

Another fantastic and extremely educational episode. Immensely appreciated

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

I am absolutely loving having trade pros on the channel to get everyone good info. Cheers!

I loved the educational video and it was a lot of fun to listen to you and Dustin talk about different things & life events. The only complaint I have, is that you kept interrupting Dustin and finishing his sentences and a few times i actually really wanted to hear what he said. 😢 Sorry, I never complain about you because I absolutely LOVE everything you've done for me and how you've helped me keep a roof over my kids head and helped me to not lose my house or for me and kids to freeze. Eternally grateful for everything you do. Thank you ❤❤❤

@zane4682

11 ай бұрын

I agree it felt frustrating to miss out when it seemed like Dustin had something else to say. But I wonder if it happened because of a lag in their connection. Jeff may have come to a pause and moved on with the next topic before Dustin had even heard the end of the last sentence.

this is amazing I love Dustin, he has reminded me and taught me so much.... amazing to see my two fav you tube stars collaborate!

Love both of those shows

Marrette is a brand name, like sawsall. Yes, it is a wire nut in Canada too.

Im 62 and im still doing it and enjoying it!😂

I almost learned the hard way that even turning off one breaker sometimes isn't enough. One outlet in my living room is backfed by wires from my kitchen and almost resulted in an electrical shock. With the breaker off, a lamp or radio on the outlet didn't work but there was somehow still had current going to it. Didn't know until i started unscrewing the terminals and saw sparks. Just ended up shutting the entire house off to replace that outlet. Be careful out there!

Another great video, very informative. Cheers

Love this! Been following both you you for a while now and it's amazing to have both of you in the same video

@tay13666

11 ай бұрын

Same. Been a fan of Dustin's for years now. Great to see the collab.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

Cheers!

I operate an IT Contracting company and have been looking to branch into being an electrician due to the number of times having Certs would save me time/money. This interview opened my eyes to many things that have intimidated me when confronting the subject. Thanks a ton, @HomeRenoVisionDIY . You consistently deliver quality YT content friend!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

I learned a few things as well. Cheers!

I'm a fan of Dustin too. 👍

Great video. I have learned a lot watching both of the channels. Dustin is a good electrician teacher which helps me a lot since I am also in Texas so codes are pretty much the same.

Hey Dustin! Love u crazy guy 💚 I have an old house. Ripped out all the walls and starting a full rewire. Love it when my fav youtubers get together!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

That is awesome! Just be sure to do the work on a permit or else you could leave a lot of money on the table when you go to resell in the current market conditions. waiting for a sellers market can take a lot of patience. Cheers!

@ThisMissK

11 ай бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I have a permit good for 2 years. I was a little surprised to find zero insulation in the walls living in Wisconsin! Well... besides all the abandoned wasps nests 👍

You don't have to have 3 wires to hook up a gfci outlet. You only need 2 wires. That is actually a way you can convert 2 prong outlets to 3 prong outlets in an old house. You install 3 prong gfci outlets and label them. You can tell that Dustin knew this but didn't want to be awkward and interrupt/correct Jeff.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

He actually does not want to offer some advice that is dangerous to diyers as well. Cheers!

@TwilightxKnight13

11 ай бұрын

The 2-wire solution is considered a "patch" for an old home that does not have a 3-wire electrical system. You should not choose to use the 2-wire solution if there is the possibility to upgrade the wiring to three-wire.

I called them merets too for the longest, thanks to you Jeff! 😂 I recently started calling them wire nuts, but I speak of them so little because all I talk about are wago lever/nuts

I felt like you didn’t let Dustin finish explaining without interrupting and before moving on to the next question. Other than that good pod.

This video came at the perfect time!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

Cheers Ashley!

33:34 They do. Just like you explained they use an installation tester like a Benning IT200. And testing all (3) phases for L-N, L-PE, N-PE in all circuits as well as the RCD reaction timings is required and needs to be documented.

Dustin, NEC 406.4(D)(2) allows a gfci to replace a 2 prong receptacle (i.e. no grounding wire)

hit that like button boys !

I NEVER use the push in the back outlets! they are cheap 89 cent outlets! I use the higher quality (back wired) outlets, they are the type that you put the stripped wire in the back and tighten the screw down and it clamps the wire. They make a very secure connection. Also these type hold the plug in the outlet very securely. Worth spending the extra money. 😊

Marret is a Canadian brand of wire nut so makes sense. Kleenex brand vs tissue sort of deal

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

Cheers to marrete!

I would love to hear more about how some of the 240 circuits only use 2 conductor (mini splits). Is this safe because it’s a dedicated circuit? Would this introduce current on the ground if connected to a sub panel?

Former owner of my house did wood working, which made him think he was also an electrician and a plumber. My basement wire trails are a nightmare. I’ve been here almost 6 years and haven’t even began to get it straightened out. Oh, and when I bought I hired a top notch home inspector who said all was great. My garage electric hook up is a wire sticking out of the basement , going underground and then in the wall of the garage. The big wood workshop in back was an extension cord going 100 ft and plugged into the side of the building.

@denisegaylord382

10 ай бұрын

Sounds like the many homes I have encountered over the years. Wires were just junctioned in because that's were they could get power to feed them. I feel your pain and frustration.

In Canada you should have a dedicated microwave/hood circuit.

@TheTurbinator

11 ай бұрын

Yes, in Canada it's dedicated.

Marrettes are named after the inventor. I think he invented the Marr connector putting a set screw to join the wires while the progression to the twist on Marrette came later. I use Marr for the set screw type, Marrette for the twist on.

I use one of those wand testers to find the hot wire when im working on old knob and tube wiring. Otherwise it's hard to know the difference between the hot and neutral. Theres no markings🙄

Great videos as always but I have a question if I were to add a 60 amp sub panel around 60 ft apart from main panel underground conduit what sizes conductors neutral and ground should I run any and all help is appreciated

@Enlightn76

8 ай бұрын

#6 thhn copper with #10 ground in 1" pvc conduit would be my recommendation Option B. #4 xhhw aluminum with #8 ground in 1 1/4" conduit. I always sixe my underground conduit a little larger than needed you'll thank yourself later when you to pull the wire.

There are several moments (like 59:34 ha! 🤣) where it might seem to viewers like Dustin was cut off just as he was about to offer an important nugget of wisdom, but I highly suspect the real culprit is Zoom lag (or whatever tech they are using). Conversation has moved on before he even hears the end of the sentence.

In Oregon(both Union and non-union Appreticeships) have to be enrolled in Classroom Training while doing On the Job Training. Homeowners can do their own wiring here, but you must get a permit and have it inspected at least twice. Applying for apprenticeships require filling out paperwork and interviewing, but the process is more streamline now, with the labor shortage. It was much tougher in 1995 when I entered the Trade.( no labor shortage then) Great video, Russ ,28 years in the Electrical Trade.

All electrical installations are to be megger tested in EU area. So once the house is done you run through every single outlet etc. to test that the precalculated ground path resistance to mains is correct and that the RCD's work in time as per their specifications as well as visually checking each installation. While the house is been "meggered" you also write up an inspection report and thus verify it against your masters license that the installations are done compliant to electrical code and then hand a signed copy of the report to your customer who then shows it to city officials inspecting the house.

i see you tube award behind u....n wana try to steal it😂😂😂😂😂

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

come and take it! LOL

Greetings from Puerto Rico, just put bulk marette history and the story will appear on the wiki. super life video

I was working on a three phase panel 40 years ago and an inspector walks up to me and says where’s your permit, without hesitation, I put my index and middle fingers across the mains, look at him and say, there’s my permit 🤣. Never saw him again, ahhh the old days..

I'm interested in learning electrical work for my own benefit in reno work! I'm in Texas, so I'm going to look into the apprentice license!

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

8 ай бұрын

Love that Heather!

The topic of insurance covering your house without permits is nuanced. I think it was the “no permit required” video you did where the guy said your house is covered even if you do your own work and it was faulty; if I knock a candle over or leave the stove on, or flood the house cause I passed out drunk in the tub with the water running - even if it’s something negligent or careless and the house burns down - your insurance doesn’t deny self inflicted damage unless it was intentional. I am not trying to rationalize not getting permits btw.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

it all comes down to the gray areas being subject to change without notice so living in it is risky...and that is also where the greatest reward is. Cheers!

I have an outdoor plug on the front porch and the back patio and neither of them work. I cannot find the GFCI to reset them. I have reset every GFCI that I can locate in the kitchen and bathrooms and garage and in the panel. Any ideas?

Can you cover how to change out outlets that have wires that are stick style in the back to new outlets that wires curl on the screws. The wires still have a ground but i guess in the 80s thats how they did things

Microwave/hood that shares other plugs in the kitchen, then in winter someone runs a portable heater and then someone runs the microwave, it will blow the breaker.

Microwave should be dedicated. And must use single plug and cover for the outlet.

My thing I want to learn is I want to add an attic fan and was going to wire directly to the breaker having two constants attached to one breaker because I didn’t want to crawl into the small space to find a live wire that has extra length on it . But to do that I realized I’d have to cut power to main though. Would this pass code though when we go to sell the house later? 1:36

@gjkrisa

11 ай бұрын

Ok I watched it thru now so if they can tell it was not original there going to want an inspection of that area. I recorded everything I did ran a new wire from a receptacle in the room below and added a new plastic enclosed box in the attic sealing all holes with fire rated spray foam.

30:00 anyone know what brands electrician U likes for residential panels/breakers?

If you use the Receptacle with The Wire you can just push in to the back, never use it! It's good for low amperage applications but if you have a space heater plugged into that receptacle I guarantee it's going to burn the whole back of the receptacle off!! how do I know this!!😂 I have fixed so many of these situations where the whole inside of the outlet box was burned out and charred.

What about the outlets that include the back-stab hole with a lever that clamps it down, like a WAGO or LEVER nut? On these receptacles (like the Leviton decora edge 15) which they sell in 10 packs at home depot, these do not even have the option of wrapping the wire around a screw. Seems like this is not the same issue as the old school "back-stab" technique because it is clamping it down. Are these types of outlets considered unsafe because of this type of connection?

44:39 my ac uses 1 amp fan only measuring with a p3 power meter says it starts at 5 amps and it will slowly creep up to 10 amps is when I stopped looking it was a few minutes. You think that’s the cheap meter or the ac might actually be doing that. Is the ac showing it’s age when it’s doing that?

@johnhooton3286

7 ай бұрын

If it's old and the running current exceeds the nameplate it could be starting to fail.

"Twist-on connectors are also known as wire nuts, wire connectors, cone connectors, or thimble connectors. One trade name for such connectors, Marrette, is derived from the name of their inventor (William P Marr) and, in Canada, this type of connector is often referred to as a marrette regardless of the actual brand of the product."

I’m sure the answer may vary depending on geographic location, but in regards to getting a permit for electrical work, would you say it’s a necessity for all types of electrical work? For example, a small job like just replacing an outlet should I get permit/inspection? One could argue that I mess up wiring it and could cause a fire just as easily as a larger job.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

you guessed it. depending on where you live. It is easy to call the local building office to confirm. Cheers!

@SheilaSpencer1

11 ай бұрын

Idk where you are, but I'm in the US. I've never needed a permit to change my outlets/switches, hard-wired lights/fans, etc. Just changing out old for new you don't need one.

A metal conduit with only 2 wires in it, a long time ago didn't they use the metal conduit as the ground path?

@johnhooton3286

7 ай бұрын

Still legal to use conduit as ground.

My problem as a electrician is the general contractor that uses me likes to do as much as he can himself to save money 🙄. This creates a horrible situation for me. Wires run wrong, junction boxes cut up with oscillating tools, wires yanked on and the outer insulation torn open and taped. lights installed with NO boxes, On and on and on🙄. Then they want ME to sign off on this stuff and finish work that they dont understand. I wish I could post pictures on here everyone would be shocked.!

Hey 😄😄

A WIRENUT in spanish is call a CABLECONE or just a cone.

Electrician U sounds like a fun Nintendo game

I'm 68 years old and just got my journeyman's license last year. You're only as old as you feel.

The biggest thing DIYr’s do wrong is they learn enough to make it work but they don’t learn enough to make it safe or to pass code.

@Daltonator87

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I had an owner opt to do their electrical and was fully prepared to put their kitchen plugs, fridge, and dishwasher all on the same circuit. Didn’t understand why it was a bad idea lol

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

that is the old days. now diyers have access to much netter info. Cheers!

@gergemall

11 ай бұрын

Thank you gentlemen.❤

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I don't touch anything without first going in with a verified non-contact voltage tester. Sure, they have limitations, but generally improve your safety chances. You can't always get in with a meter probe... hello liquid electrical tape, anyone? A bad/burnt contact terminal will show no voltage on a meter probe but the non-contact tester will reveal whether it's hot or not very reliably.

soo... on errors from DIY: not studying the code. I know, it is a lot, but studying at least the relevant parts of it will save a lot of trouble. For instance, on the microwave/hood question: it depends on the load, yes, but also on the instructions of the appliance. As it is a fixed appliance (fastened in place), it has different load calculation requirements. Also, the code specifically states that you have to follow manufacturer's instructions: if the manufacturer says it needs a dedicated circuit, you need a dedicated circuit. If the manufacturer says nothing of the sort: you apply the code guidelines.

I have a house from the 80s with a basement. The electrical in the basement has electrical staples that are kind of tight. They indent the casing slightly, but not ceushing the wire completely. How dangerous is this?

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

wires are supposed to be held in place and not crushed. I would pull the staple and set it right.

@copernicusvanstruselclit9508

11 ай бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY thank you.

"dirty power", the person probably meant distorted waveform. I saw this a lot in other countries, when watching the power with an oscope you would literally see the waveform "dirty".

@denisegaylord382

10 ай бұрын

So power that comes from the main grid is not a true sine wave? Like the difference when using a power inverter from 12V to 120V, it usually is a square sine wave, versus a smooth sine wave?

@ildefonsocamargo8291

10 ай бұрын

@@denisegaylord382 more like power with a lot of noise in other frequencies. I do not know how, but it was visible on the 120V rms sine wave (so, definitely in the volts range), a good word to describe it would be in fact "dirty". Not the same as a modified sinewave from a square-ish waveform inverter.

@denisegaylord382

10 ай бұрын

@@ildefonsocamargo8291 oh, interesting.

Many times i will replace a old 60 or 100 amp service with a 200 amp. The utility will still hook it up to the old drop from the pole.🙄 They tell me it's fine because it's out in the open air and the wire will be cooled by the air.🤷‍♂️ If at any time you are pulling close to the 200 amps I can't see that being very good at all!😮

Having women in the trade is really no different than hiring smaller men. IMO, the biggest challenge with women in the industry is getting past the old skool closed-minded journeymen who simply think women should be at home. Thankfully, those guys are retiring and their quantity is shrinking every day. Hiring women in the trades has some advantages as they tend to be more receptive to training without complaining about it. They tend to listen better and are often better at communicating with customers. Some of the best trainers I've met are women in the industry.

Watts up Ohms

Please give your guest more time to elaborate on an explanation without interrupting them

55 and just retired, too late to become a electrician, LoL. I get sore doing home improvements, LoL so I am joking.

I’m an electrician myself but I leave some of the wiring work for the PRO sometimes .

@redacted3610

11 ай бұрын

Huh?

@garyhunchak1857

11 ай бұрын

lol say what?

@SheilaSpencer1

11 ай бұрын

That makes absolutely no sense. If you're an electrician, you ARE the pro. lol

Why do you say that the VOLTAGE TESTER doesn't tell you anything? Does it not tell you that there is voltage present?

Hey Jeff, I have a house built before 1980 that had no hidden boxes. Mine was built in 1890. It had knob & tube, it had non-grounded romex, but it didn't have any hidden boxes. No one was hiding boxes behind plaster. Even the 1970 addition was wired mostly right. No wire nuts, but they had twisted, soldered connections wrapped with that gooey tape. It also had 7 wires packed into one junction box in one closet that looked like it had almost caught on fire once due to the box being undersized and everything packed so tight.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

too much heat is an issue. code restricts how many wires can be in a box as well. Cheers!

link for Oscillating Multi Tool is bad

@ecospider5

11 ай бұрын

Looks like the L is missing from tool If you add that it works. But yes it’s a busted link.

It’s actually false that a GfCI receptacle won’t function without an equipment grounding conductor, I think Dustin was about to correct you.

Wire nuts is so much better than merritts!

"Marrets" is a Brand name NO??

Thank you just for clarifying that insurance on old house is useless waist of money

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

no one said that!

@andreycham4797

11 ай бұрын

@@HomeRenoVisionDIY You said. An insurance company would not honor insurance policy if an electric work done without a permit. Entire addition was done without permit on my house . My question is what would prevent insurance company from not paying me money for damage in case of fire ?

For the EU question, they probably test everything because their circuits are all 240. Much greater chance of bad things happening.

LoL marrettes and robbies...these terms are in that 1% of difference between an American and Canadian.

@HomeRenoVisionDIY

11 ай бұрын

Cheers mate!

Not to much about wiring here. Do better!

I believe the Eu Electricians test all their circuits and record their findings in their paperwork, because their work is not inspected directly by any authority. Thanks, Russ, 28 years in the Trade

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