A real test would be grabbing a torque wrench and seeing if the Milwaukee got it tight enough

@maxuabo

Жыл бұрын

Impacts will get it tight. It takes time for the anvil in the impact to torque to spec. This idiot doesn’t understand how mechanical principles work

@PLKdiversifiedtech

Жыл бұрын

@Republicansaretraitors Totheusa the electric stuff is great and serves its purpose when needed. But it’s just not there yet for service in bigger stuff like this. Don’t get me wrong I love not having an air hose to kink and trip over. Plus as stated above, the electric impacts offer great breakaway torque. Final “return truck to service torque”(especially lugs) are generally or supposed to be run in with an impact and then hit with a clicker or beeper wrench

@shanedottie

Жыл бұрын

@@PLKdiversifiedtech yea but sometimes air tools just aren’t needed for the extra torque, I’ve had many shops over tighten my lugs because they used an air gun. If an electric can get it up to torque spec than it’s fine imo

@PLKdiversifiedtech

Жыл бұрын

@@shanedottie I’m referring to heavy duty applications. Electric impacts on passenger vehicles are up to snuff. And then some

@shanedottie

Жыл бұрын

@@PLKdiversifiedtech I agree, I'm just wondering if this milwaukee tire gun shown in this video is enough to meet the torque specs

I always wondered what Jiffy Lube used on my oil drain plug 😂😂 thanks for sharing

@GT-mn3bx

Жыл бұрын

You would trust them?

@elishahocking2885

Жыл бұрын

​@@GT-mn3bx ohhh hell no. Fuck that wannabe company

@slabbusterrtr7690

Жыл бұрын

300flbs on that drain plug aint ot 😂

@kinte1870

Жыл бұрын

Its the washer that needs replacing.

@t.j.cornett7495

Жыл бұрын

A friend brought one that had been hit that hard. I ended up drilling an easy out and replacing the plug...

This is the kid that strips out your lugs at the tire shop.

@jeffstephen354

Жыл бұрын

yeah his double wack has cost many a customer a nut I suspect

@christianmedina79

Жыл бұрын

The Milwaukee goes up to 450 pound feet of torque. I think thats supposed to be enough for them. Just takes a little longer then the air.

@ryanmcgowan9199

Жыл бұрын

bro he looks about 40 you must have been trucking with george washington back in the day

@Jay__EL

Жыл бұрын

​@@ryanmcgowan9199 😂

@dannyh773

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanmcgowan9199 Is that supposed to be funny or are you trying to make a point. Read the comment again. You don’t understand it.

Electric for Roadside Service so you don’t have to carry a giant compressor on the truck

@exceptionalanimations1508

Жыл бұрын

you do know you can power pneumatic tools from the air brake tanks right?

@2birddogsandawolfdog945

Жыл бұрын

Not if your line blows before the tanks... 💀 Don't ask me how I know 😂

@IH2016

Жыл бұрын

The truck air tanks will never keep up up with a 1in gun

@indianumberonecountry

Жыл бұрын

@@exceptionalanimations1508 are they powerful enough to run a 1in gun tho? Actually curious

@cadenbrown4861

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the compressor is needed anyway for blow tanks, jacks, and airing up tyres

"What are we doin', Justin?"... over torquin' these dag gum wheel studs.

@thelonesomedrifter6819

Жыл бұрын

I prefer over torqued over under torqued

@sethgt1234

Жыл бұрын

​@@thelonesomedrifter6819 There is a fine line for both. That's why you should just use torque specs. 🤦🤷🏽‍♂️

@frankenstrat25

Жыл бұрын

@@thelonesomedrifter6819 the difference between under and over torque is, that youll notice your lug nuts coming off if theyre coming loose. the studs just stretch and snap off when theyre over torqued.

@hankhasemeier6887

Жыл бұрын

​@The Lonesome Drifter you definitely don't want over torqued lugs. Loose lugs will make a huge racket before your wheel comes off, over torqued lugs will snap and your wheel will end up in the windshield of an suv carrying a family of 5 if they're over torqued

@calebjackson4708

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Always over torque. When they fall off the last guy on that wheel will be dragged into the courtroom

Torque specs be dammed I guess 😂

Now go round with a torque wrench, oh “ it clicks” cos it’s too tight…

@garrett3055

Жыл бұрын

These boys don’t run a torque wrench. Tight is tight in that shop.

@LarryMarston

Жыл бұрын

In ugga dugga we trust. Tight is tight.

@brantkensinger3398

Жыл бұрын

You don't torque semi truck wheel lug nuts. They call for 500 foot pounds. You go until you can't go anymore (as in using a long 10+ foot pipe for torque).

@Airgunfunrich

Жыл бұрын

@@brantkensinger3398 why do Scania give torque specs for wheel nut then?

@e47kz

11 ай бұрын

@@LarryMarstonlmfao

Nobody cares how well it puts the nuts on, they care how well they take them off.

@loktom4068

2 ай бұрын

Got a flat with hand tools in the middle of nowhere and you will knows how good & tight it is.

I’ve changed many tires on 50 ton rock trucks in underground mining and have done all of them the last 5 years with 3/4” Milwaukee impact and reached 500 ft/lbs on all 50 nuts with ease.

@CrazyxxxUkraine

Жыл бұрын

I have a Milwaukee 3/4 it doesn’t take off super tight lugs that someone else tightened Now if all work is done with it maybe but I wouldn’t trust it for Highway use maybe it’s ok in the mines goi g low speed

@dric789

Жыл бұрын

The 1/2 will do too if you sit there for a hot sec

@timbowalk

23 күн бұрын

​@@dric789 True I've done it

battery impact drivers have more torque loosening than tightening so that you dont break stuff.

@Mike-fp7rv

Жыл бұрын

Every impact gun is like that

@deezgilliams

Жыл бұрын

they *should* but more often than not, especially the Milwaukee brand, they make more beans in forward. youtube Torque Test Channel tests a lot of these impacts

@TheKurtTribute

Жыл бұрын

@@deezgilliamsExactly. A lot of their larger guns are made for iron workers, forward torque is more important when bolting buildings together.

@deezgilliams

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKurtTribute gotcha i never thought about it, but makes sense

@maxuabo

Жыл бұрын

Your words fall on deaf ears. He’s too busy huffin diesel to give a shit

I don't know anything about semis - Isn't there a torque sequence for tightening those lugs in order? Or even a torque spec?

@ariesmight6978

Жыл бұрын

Yes just like on none commercial vehicles. These guys are both lazy and unprofessional!

@Manhandle730

Жыл бұрын

@@ariesmight6978exactly. You keep tightening opposite sides so it will seat evenly I hope he was just being lazy for the video but I doubt it.

@ariesmight6978

Жыл бұрын

@Ian James The official quote of unprofessional is. " He'll be returning back to my shop"!

@johnskinner2329

Жыл бұрын

The torque spec is 450ft-lb. Have fun checking that by hand. The 2 across is enough to center the rim.

@stevenelder568

Жыл бұрын

Doing the first 2 across is enough to get the rim set square to the hub. Unless of course you didn't clean the mating surfaces and they're covered I rust and corrosion. But what he has done is overtightened the lug nuts, the torque spec for this 22mm studs is 450 ft/lbs - 500 ft/lbs. Probably didn't wreck them unless they are real old studs, but he did stretch them, weaken them, and greatly shorten their lifespan.

Didn't sound like the electric was on high. I've used that milwaukee many of times and his one sounded wrong

@Only10re

Жыл бұрын

We have one or two running all the time where I work. I think I was told that you can set the torque with your phone.

@markk3948

Жыл бұрын

@Only10re with one-key

@tinytattoomike7943

Жыл бұрын

@@Only10re 🤣🤣💀

@ReshardsAutomotiveWorkshop

Жыл бұрын

Agree. I use it everyday. It doesn't sound weak like that.

@markk3948

Жыл бұрын

@@ReshardsAutomotiveWorkshop yeah totally on speed 1

We use this same gun at work for scoop and haul truck tires underground. Lots of power and no air lines makes on the fly work much easier . I’ve upgraded all my air tools to electric for this reason 😊

“Better give ‘em a double whack” I heard Discount Tire was hiring again and they want you back

Typically the 1 inch impact guns overtighten the nuts. Everyone just uses them cause that's what has always been used, and you just run that bitch down till it doesn't spin. It never comes off and never strips the stud, so just we run it. Milwaukee probably did a fine job.

So did the electric torque it to 500 ft lb? The world may never know.

@therealdrfishy586

Жыл бұрын

Lol facts. But judging by the fact he didn't jump on each bolt idk if i would trust this guy anyway

@AzzKicker-bz1cb

Жыл бұрын

@@therealdrfishy586 I was amazed that he only used a cross tightening pattern for four out of the 10 or 12 lug nuts on the wheel! He should have crossed each one until tight , THEN he could hit each in succession for a final tightening before using the torque wrench and once again torquing in a cris cross pattern!!!

@Falcon2609

Жыл бұрын

This dude is a steaight clown and proved nothing!

I always tighten till I see small cracks forming between the lugnut holes, then back it off a 1/4 turn. Alcoa sells a lot of rims that way.

@therealRustyShackleford

Жыл бұрын

LOL!!! 1/4 to 1/2 turn....it's all good!

I'd be more worried about the split in the tyre 😂

Nothing like over torquing your lugs!

@abeodez751

Жыл бұрын

Well it's hard to over torque if they're supposed to be torque over 600ftlb and only a couple of seconds of impacting 😅

@ThumperG

Жыл бұрын

Those lugs are supposed to be torqued to about 500 pounds bud, I highly doubt they are over torqued lol

@josephharms8342

Жыл бұрын

​@@ThumperG They must be we torque to 500 at my job and we use a 3/4 Milwaukee impact and when I check with a torque wrench after all the lugs don't even move so for sure that 1 inch should be way more than enough

@ThumperG

Жыл бұрын

@@josephharms8342 I have no doubt that 1” could over tighten those lugs, but the way he put them on I think they would have been fine and ready to be torqued to spec. It wasn’t till he went back in and beat them on with the air impact that they were most likely over torqued.

@juliogonzo2718

Жыл бұрын

​@@abeodez751 450-500. 600 is too much

Milwaukee torqued it to 550lbs. The air torqued it to 700 +- 100lbs

@oddarntnes7079

Жыл бұрын

I use a milwaukee with a 600nm torque stick (which is the right amount for Scania trucks) multiple times daily. No need for air cords, works great. 600 nm is 450lbs.

@enragedplantera5585

Жыл бұрын

550 is still over torqued technically so thats no problem

@Nothingmore71

Жыл бұрын

Then both over torqued....

@akaredcrossbow

Жыл бұрын

@@Nothingmore71 If Botha are over, then no need for air!

@shanebroom9173

Жыл бұрын

@@akaredcrossbow those lugs should have between 450ftlbs to 600ftlbs of torque on any big rig 450+ ft lbs of force is safe for tires so either gun will work but air is safer cause atleast then you know for a fact that if your air gun has plenty of air you have plenty of torque to hold those bolts down cause if they come loose you will probably shit yourself so if it was me I’d use air

I'm a fleet mechanic, I been trying taking the lugs off with my DeWalt 1/2 impact, but I put them back on with the air gun, less time I gotta run the compressor in my service van.

@BubbleBlowingBanana

Жыл бұрын

3/4 makes life a lot easier, takes a lot of the vibration out too

turn up the power on the Milwaukee next time bud, that sounded like its was on level 1

@BigJay2475

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it does sound like it is

@Jultsu

Жыл бұрын

you can literally see the mode selector lit at mode 2

@HighlordFrancis

Жыл бұрын

And probably used low battery on purpose too.

@jeremyg891

Жыл бұрын

Anything to make y’all feel better

Yeah you just way over torqued those lugs man. 450 to 500 ft pounds

@younggun9956

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, no kidding. The milwuakee sounded "soft" because it's set to not way over torque lug nuts lol

@brian5128

Жыл бұрын

Never knows anyone to torque semi lugs to spec😂

@AzzKicker-bz1cb

Жыл бұрын

@@brian5128 How many semi tire shops have you been to??? I’m guessing they are all the irresponsible shops!!! Not checking torque is the same as just slapping the wheel on and sending it out the door!!! As many others here have pointed out, over torquing will cause those lug bolts to stretch and snap off causing the wheel to fly off the axle without warning, while under torquing will allow the lug nuts to slowly back off giving at least some warning that they are loose, but still very unsafe and unpredictable!!!

Check your settings on the 1 key app , and it looks like your set to lug nut mode which it sets them to around 400 , i don’t use lug nut mode on mine , I hit each lug 4-5 seconds then torque them , get roughly 1/4 turn from the torque wrench which is perfect

@darrenairey5938

Жыл бұрын

Same here! You dont need to use the different settings cause they spin and impact less, making it feel weird! I say the settings are for newbies that arnt familiar with impacting but if you are just give em a few ugga duggas and then finish with a torque wrench which leaves them needing just a quarter turn or so, then its fast to finish up!! Love all my Milwaukee impacts!!!👍

Wouldn’t be mad if I was stuck on the side of the road & had the Milwaukee chillin in the cab

Or you could, you know, use a torque wrench to do final tightening...

@gumballer133

Жыл бұрын

I've never used a Torque wrench on wheels actually. Some of my guys do, but I don't. Now mind you I may put a 1/2in long handle ratchet on and double check them, although I only do that on my cars.

@paddychamp6069

Жыл бұрын

@@gumballer133 fair call in a way. I treat them like brakes in a sense and always make sure they're torqued evenly and to spec. I guess the most important thing is that they're even, if they're a little off then there's a lot less chance of failure that way.

@zanechristenson3436

5 ай бұрын

@@paddychamp6069not a fair call in any way lol. Sounds like he has some hand in managing a place that puts wheels on customer cars… so it’s pretty terrible to hear him say his guys are more responsible than him. Putting a long handle ratchet to make sure you over torque them is just as bad as under torquing by a smidge.

@paddychamp6069

5 ай бұрын

@zanechristenson3436 having been in a car before that almost lost its wheel due to poor tightening, I can comfortably say I'd rather slightly overtorqued wheels than ones just tightened with guesswork.

or use a torque wrench to set final torque like you are supposed to

Lubetech tightening your drainplug be like :

Torque specs for lug nuts on a semi are generally around the 550 ftlb area. On my semi I use a half inch impact and torque them to spec.

@KellB40

Жыл бұрын

450-500ft lbs I believe

@MrObewan2020

Жыл бұрын

​@@KellB40 yup, for Hub Pilot wheels.

@loadmover-qo7yv

Жыл бұрын

450 at every shop I've been to

@PhillyRacer121

Жыл бұрын

Its on the damn lug nuts. 450-500, split the difference and hit them at 475 and your good.

@alexandermarrero2785

Жыл бұрын

I have a fleet of 10 trucks and have always used a 1/2 inch milwaukee to tighten the lug nuts. This is waaaaay over torqued

That Milwaukee was prob on setting 1. Those 1” have insane power. I’ve used one quite a bit on baseplate studs for launchers with the nuts being torqued at least to 1400 ft lbs and it didn’t even hesitate to break them loose.

@tino6754

Жыл бұрын

if you look closely you can see that it is on mode 2 so he doesn´t now how to use the tool properly and blames the tool for it

you know the Lugnuts only have to be torqued to 500 foot pounds. There’s no reason to kill them with a 1 inch gun

So this is what Benedict Cumberbatch does when he's not acting.

Looks like it’s on the lowest setting

@huskers1278

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like it too.

@markk3948

Жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure it definitely didn't sound right plus he even Impact it longer with the air

@jordanabendroth6458

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's impacting really slowly

I use a small Milwaukee 1/4 bit impact to start the nuts on wheels. It makes it fast than threading it by hand trying to align the wheel to the holes. Then I switch to an air tool with a torque stick to get it to around +85ft lbs.

@BendingBoards

Жыл бұрын

Good for you, Joshua

That m18 will definitely tighten over the nut torque rating. I use the 3/4 m18 to do wheel daily with zero issues

You over, tighten it with the air, gun, torque it and see what the difference is

Good way to stretch you studs!

Well considering you barley even tried to tighten them with the electric no wonder the air beat it. Yes i know air will be stronger in most match ups but that milwaukee puts out over 1k ft lbs which is more then enough for spec. Terrible opinion video or whatever you call this

I’ve done those wheels with the Milwaukee 1/2” because both the 1” air impacts were being used when I need them. Checked my work with a torque wrench and everything was good. 500ft/lbs. I was impressed.

Doctor Strange became a trucker.

shoulda had the tire pushed all the way back before tightening it rookie mistake

@brianherndon5820

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't fully tighten it, he snugs it against the hub then hits the lug opposite of it

@shotgunsherman

Жыл бұрын

Wtf rookie mistake lmfao

@juliogonzo2718

Жыл бұрын

​@@brianherndon5820 good way to have a wheeloff if it jams cocked on the hub

@brianherndon5820

Жыл бұрын

@Julio Gonzo if you're worth your salt in the slightest you'd be able to tell if the wheel wasn't flush on the hub

I don’t always use a 1 inch impact gun to torque the daylights out of my lug nuts. But when I do…..it’s air powered. 🤔 let’s give it all the beans.

I don't know man. It sounded like that Milwaukee was in the lowest rpm setting. In any case, it definitely will tighten them to spec.

A real test would involve a torque wrench

The movement was within an 1/8 inch turn. That’s no need to over tighten. Also, the battery seemed near dead when he reved it in the beginning.. still tightened though.

you used the wrong electric. you should've used the Ingersall Rand electric 1" impact. it's a whole nother kettle of fish.

@huskers1278

Жыл бұрын

Every single Ingersoll tool ive ever seen that was electric is shit.

have you ever heard of torque spec? or torque pattern?

As a heavy diesel mechanic I don't see the point in a one inch gun for wheel nuts when any 3/4 battery gun released in the last decade will rip wheel nuts off just fine

That Milwaukee was not turned up all the way

What are torque specs anymore. I wonder how long those studs with last. Lol

I’m a torque wrench guy, but also a light duty tech. My 3/8” Milwaukee always gets em off though.

Check it with a torque wrench first. Just because the air is stronger, doesn’t necessarily mean that the electric didn’t do its job to spec.

I completely agree stick with air, but you gotta go around the block again. The usually always tighten a little more with me.

@tacticaldorito3942

Жыл бұрын

And the next guy to take them off has to get the torch out.

"What're we doin Justin?" "Gettin the biased outcome we wanted"

I have that same exact Milwaukee and he had it on lug nut mode. It shuts it down before 450 ft lbs so you can torque it afterwards. You can customize drive modes and I spent a lot of time getting mine spot on at 500 for both dry and lubed studs. (2 different modes) and then number 3 is full bore which would way over tighten it. All that being said, it still doesn't have the brute strength of a good 1" air gun and is why I still use both.

Electric always beats air buddy. Without electric, you don’t have air.

You'll go through 3 of those electric impacts by the time the air impact needs a rebuild. That's the beauty of air, simplicity. With that said, electric tools are great in their own right and have their place. Just not as a permanent shop fixture.

Not me screaming “TORQUE WRENCH”

That guy just overtightened all those lugs. 😂

This dude shines like a burnt headlight! Genius!

Now they're all over-torqued and you stretched the pins. 10/10

I've been using my milwalkee 1 inch gun for over a year. Lug nut mode pull it till it stops then pull it again till it stops on each lug nut leaves it about 475lbs. I pull it out of my box, add a battery, when I'm done I put it back in my box. Saves time and effort.

The first thing I learned in automotive school was not to tighten lug nuts with an impact wrench.

Trust this mechanic's quality when you have to change a flat tire in the middle of nowhere. It's that tight.

Ugga Duuga that didn't skip leg day!!! I need one....🥰🥰

Dude had it set to mode 2. Usually, ignore it, but in your case maybe read the manual

Dr strange got a new job 😂

I use a torque wrench to tighten my nuts to spec 👍

Im a diesel tech myself. Many of us techs prefer air or electric for this type of work. If I use an electric tool, it's more so for getting something done quickly. I have seen other techs use electric tools and next thing you know, the part they used that electric tool on start coming apart due to not being tight, but it doesn't need a torque. Those batteries are okay but mainly for quick jobs in my opinion.

I use the Milwaukee version every day at work. I service a fleet of school buses. Go behind with a torque wrench to get to 450ft lbs and it’s never let me down. Also the electric gun is better for road calls. I don’t have to have a rig with a compressor on it. Just a big pry bar a pump jack electric impact and a spare tire. It’s great.

Maybe crank the milwaukee up a bit. That indicator on the inside of the handle looks like its on the lowest setting

You know its heavy duty when you have to put the anvil on the socket and not the other way around 😂

I have a Milwaukee impact gun. You can adjust the torque with the app. It will just turn off the trigger once the set torque has been reached. That's what this sounds and looks like.

We use the milwaukee gun at our shop, I go a few seconds once the spin on the lug nut slows down and no issues ever. Our trucks are dirt/asphalt trucks

Take it positively, that truck isn't gonna lose wheels

Truck driver: "What'd you torque it to?" Hoodie dude: "12-14 ugga duggas each"

We use the same exact electric impact gun to tighten bolts on the railroad. This was not run on high. It would snap the studs...plenty of power it performs equally as well as our hydraulic units.

Did you guys set the torque on the tool? Looks like you ran it on the lowest possible setting and also you can connect with one key and turn that thing all the way up to 2000 foot pounds.

Even so electric is advantageous and the majority of situations due to the size and not having a hose sticking off of it

Very scientific test. Extremely thorough

I've been doing road service for over a decade. I usually only use my air to air up a trailer. I have that milwaukee gun and will never get rid of it. I only ever have to break out my air tore gun when super mechanics like herculese here don't torque them down properly. I set my setting 3 on one key to be right at 500 ftlb and works perfect.

Was the battery low? Was it on full blast? It didn’t sound right

Bro looking like Dr. Strange

Try again with a torque wrench before the air gun and and after.

They both sounded weaker than 89 year-old Gertrude at the retirement home trying to do a pull-up

A lot of people misunderstand the whole idea. Air impact wrench just hammers the nuts which isn't appropriate. But the torque impact wrench as the one shown give the right amount of torque which is around 450-500 for those truck's Tyres, the air impact wrench just over torqued the fasteners which is dangerous. So electric/battery torque impact wrench is the best option at the shop and on the road as well.

Man tightens lugs in a circle lmao. Not to mention the torque issues stated by everyone else.

It's like testing the difference between an electric hammer vs air hammer. Or even electric to air hydraulic

Ole boy didn't even bust the pattern

This is why I needed a 6feet scaffold pipe on my extension bar to bounce on so I could change my flat at the side of the road.

I’ve got Ryobi for DIY and I wasn’t sure if it cranked it good enough. I then tightened it with breaker bar and it was already pretty darn tight . I didn’t need breaker bar

Not me convinced my half inch Milwaukee on level 3 Ugga dugga would’ve snapped those studs if held down 😅😅😅

At my shop we use a torque stick extension so as to not over tighten the lugs.

What battery where you using? Was it the new 12.0 M18??

Yeah feel like air has never had a lack of brute strength

cordless for engine and interior work, air for suspension. that simple. it’s crazy how some of these guys swear air is old news and outdated lol you’ll never replace good ol pneumatics

Bro said fuc the studs, they'll pay me to replace them.

How do you torque it down with an impact though?

Always had to use a compressed air 1" tool but this is so cool.

I’d be happy with that and then tighten up with a torque wrench, especially on aluminium rims.