The engine has a longer range than an electric bike, and when you run out of gas, you fill it back up in a matter of minutes, in order to recharge the bike depending on kit, it can take 30mins- to hours

@tadassmolskas3014

Жыл бұрын

yeah but you're never gonna wanna ride it more than like 10 miles lol the vibrations on my one is killer. So the range doesn't matter that much especially refilling the tank vs charging

@scratchragestudios9884

Жыл бұрын

True tho, some Ebikes have detachable Batteries.

@bryced7126

Жыл бұрын

actually with two stroke engines you have to mix it with a 16:1 ratio of oil to run, you would have to buy a more expensive 4 stroke engine to be able to fill it up with regular gas.

@settingshadow

Жыл бұрын

yes for example electrics have a range of 30 miles you can only go 15 miles to your destination and 15 going back

@tunerrestorations

11 ай бұрын

@@tadassmolskas3014 I rode mine across the state of pa with no issues in comfort. You just have to build it properly. And I didn’t use a bikeberry kit. I bought mine from their supplier and assembled it properly. Not following their instructions. The instructions they give only help them with selling Replacment parts.

the thing is, the battery will be dead or will have low charge hold in 2 to 4years if you use it or not... and they are quite pricy, an gasoline engine in the other hand will be still here in 10years... and you forgot the price of those charges.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Good reasons. Gasoline engines are vastly more affordable and easier to work on, there are also plenty of add-ons that that can be used and reused for all of your bikes. Although, electric engines are far from horrible. The technology is continuously getting better and becoming more affordable, especially when considering the constant rise in petrol. There are also many individuals who prefer the reduced carbon footprint. There is no wrong answer in which is better, it all comes down to what you're looking for.

@Tailslol

6 жыл бұрын

the electric engine is not the problem, it is the battery and electronic pieces related to it.and no battery evolution is very slow just look smartphones for exemple...

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

We agree, battery evolution is slow, but I think you're underestimating it. Look at Tesla, not a perfect electric vehicle but it is an effective all electric vehicle. The development to a perfect electric car may not come about this year, or even next year, but significantly sooner than 30 years.

@Tailslol

6 жыл бұрын

tesla is about to break appart , we see promises about new batteries every years,but we never see them,we have slow iphones and exploding samsung phones. yep everything is great.

@temich1985

6 жыл бұрын

Tailslol those cheap chinese made gas kits will not last 2 years. I had one and it all came apart after year and a half

About the cost of electricity, the battery of an e-bike like this doesn't exceed .5Kwh. The cost of electricity in the USA is about 10cents/KWh, so that gives us about 5cents per full charge, thus 20 charges per dollar, meaning 500 miles per dollar!!! Not to mention charging is available in public places for free.

@zacharytriano5112

5 жыл бұрын

My motor with all the parts was only 85$ free shipping on Amazon compared to a electric mid drive motor being 600$ plus and another 4-600 bucks for the battery. I like that they are silent but the distance and change time is really not very convenient. Also my gas 2stroke is much faster and I feel like its more powerful. If I had a bunch of money I would get a electric kit with 3 extra batteries but I'm just a middle class guy that could use all that money for all sorts of more important things. Anyways just have fun riding what ever you have ✌

@dieselgeezer18

4 жыл бұрын

the 2 stroke is much more fun to work with. Its also faster and more powerful and don't have to wait for it to charge

@kimhyunwoo8983

3 жыл бұрын

@@zacharytriano5112 ik this is old but I also should mention when it comes to electric bikes vs motorized bikes, one of the huge advantages of ebikes is the legality of them. 1.cops will less often stop and question you. 2. You can use the bike lane which in a lot of states has the advantage of being able to not deal with traffic and in urban areas sometimes don’t require you to wait at traffic lights. 3. Until you get to the 60+ mph mark you don’t need a licensee at all so even if a cop stops you, if you don’t have a license you can’t get given a ticket since it’s not considered a “Commute Vehicle”

@bensnider1581

3 ай бұрын

Maybe so but they are no good in colder climates.🖖🏻

if you live in the country side you're gonna want a gas engine. if you live in a city, especially apartment you're gonna want an electric motor, they are less powerful and slower but they are not messy and smelly

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Perfect explanation.

I have an electric bike, they're good for people who dont want to do any maintenance. Charge and go. I just didnt like that the max speed would slowly get less and less as you ride more. After a 30 minute ride you can already start to feel less torque and max speed. Gas is better for consistent power throughout your ride

The main advantage of a gas engine is that if something happens like the piston and cylinder breaks you can replace them two parts, with an electric motor you have to replace the entire motor. Then you also have to factor in the amount of electricity you have to replace in the battery because unless you somehow can get your electricity in your home for free you have to factor in the cost of that. Carbs last pretty well and shouldn’t break on you unless of back fire, the whole electric motor and battery can short circuit itself if a break in the plastic shell for the components occurs and it is raining, most gas bikes run a magneto loop that can be replaced for around $10 if something goes wrong. Honestly all forms have trade offs that can ruin the motor itself.

I personally love the gasbike I personally own a GT6 pro racing engine and I absolutely love it. Ive rode dirtbikes my whole life and have a love for the rumble of an engine

@circletech7745

6 жыл бұрын

I'm the opposite. I actually like the stealth that my electric bike provides me, since people cant hear it I come out of nowhere and scare them going 40mph while making almost no noise. It's fun :).

Could i make a hybrid-electric bike, with a gas motor AND a conversion wheel?

@the_true_moe6715

6 жыл бұрын

its dangerous but defin done before

@TheSuper4323

6 жыл бұрын

THE_TRUE_MOE how so

@420f37

6 жыл бұрын

bradley morgan could you trim my armor for me for free instead???

@hairyneil

6 жыл бұрын

Electric front, 2 stroke on the back and pedals too!

@mattburrows2615

6 жыл бұрын

I have a 1000w mid drive e bike with a 2 stroke generator the size of a brushcutter (Ebay) mounted on the back. Plenty of power from electric. Only had to use the gen on really long trips to keep battery life up. Simple and it works.

You should include the cost of charging the electric bike. Each state has loophole for the 80 cc. Being pedal assist is one example.

@bikeberry

7 жыл бұрын

The electricity consumption to charge an electric bike is surprisingly small and insignificant. It's difficult to get an exact measurement because we don't have the right tools, but it basically comes down to pennies for every full charge.

@dino3937

7 жыл бұрын

BikeBerrycom I pay $0.12 a kilowatt hour. I don't remember how long you said it takes to charge, but over 20,000 miles that's got to be pretty significant!

@dino3937

7 жыл бұрын

Over the lifespan of the bike its going to cost to $83.38 to charge it. Do the math! if you're going to compare gas compare electric you're burning coal to charge it.

@mikeyskitchenfoodporn1171

7 жыл бұрын

Sailor Dino Except N.Y. where they are illegal. Though some get away with it, in N.Y. they are not considered mopeds because it is a kit or non N.Y. approved list of seasonal vehical. Yes N.Y. has a list and none of your bikes are on it....i checked

@dino3937

7 жыл бұрын

Michael Kapela put a 50 tooth sprocket on it. Prevent the bike from going over 20 miles an hour. That's your loophole for New York City.

For me it's the e bike, being a older guy i have gotten sick and tired of working on things, ( engines, carbs, gas, grease, dirt, filth lol ) you get the point, i now like clean and easy, great video 👍🏆.

In Washington State we can go up to a 49 cc gas engine and still ride the streets, PROVIDED we register it as a moped and get a plate for it. I'd been looking at a emotor for quite a while, but they really have practical distance problems (battery weight, recharge time). A gallon of gas that I can get anywhere, vs a 20 - 55 lb battery that will take 8 - 12 hrs to recharge.

@bikeberry

7 жыл бұрын

For sure. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. We certainly enjoy the fun aspects of the motorized gas powered engines but the electric bikes are surprisingly more hassle free than you'd think. There's something calming about starting up an electric motor on demand when you don't want to pedal anymore.

@Likely_Alucard

7 жыл бұрын

electric bikes don't require any licensing in MN. You can have a 1000W nominal motor. They never said how many you can have or peak watts, motor type, or voltage. Also there is a 20 MPH speed limit, but I have had no trouble going 30 or 40 MPH. Just be reasonable and follow traffic laws and speed limits.

@Shindinru

5 жыл бұрын

A very large 17.5Ah, 48v (that's 840 Watt hour) Battery pack weighs only ~9lbs.

@brucesweatmaniii6030

5 жыл бұрын

20 to a 55-pound battery?/ what you doing racing?? charging time are way off? you can notget gas or your type of two-stroke oil everywhere? what you don't know? there portable roll-up solar panels?? so you're never stuck?? how fast you go? what 30 mph tops? Some batteries that weigh 55 pounds will hit over 100 mph and at a slower speed outrun any two-stroke in range even if they refuel it too? some of these have a range of over 200 miles?? and do it a lot faster and more fun! People look at you noisy smelly piece of shit? Mine look at that thing go!! didn't hear a thing must be new but damn that was cool have to get me one!! type talk ...all the time!! notice can charge the battery in three hours out and about with portable roll-up solar panels?? NO GAS!! IS NO GAS!! period but power always around us??

In Canada you can have up to 50cc without registration or anything fancy like That, but you can get away will higher if you take off the plate where it says "

Get a hybrid soluton 👍 the electric engine can be used on small trips or in citys, the gas engine for long distance or backup if battery dies

@PandaRuler-md3yd

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck being able to put both things on one bike. All the extra weight and friction caused by the engines and the chain will kill the battery instantly.

Very useful video, keeping this one. Thanks for making it. All the best

i have a question about the sproket adaptor on the 80cc kit, when i ride the spokes go lose and no mater how many times i get it fixed they keep going lose while i ride

3:32 You'll never have to worry about a chain popping off is only for hub motors. If you have a mid drive motor, you have that to worry about that. On all my bikes motor or not, I keep spare tubes into compartments that I attach to my bike and on the mid drive bikes, spare chains that I sized in advanced for that bike as well.

It's legal in some states for the gas motor. Here in California it states that if it's pedal assisted it cannot exceed 20MPH on flat ground for street use.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Very true, most states in the US have this same regulation or are slowly moving towards this trend.

@EdmontonRails

5 жыл бұрын

Filthy parasites in government, I hope they don't except me to put up with their BS.

@miguel360kmc

4 жыл бұрын

This is true... however if you read them laws completely you will see they say motor has to follow epa laws which 2t dont and cant have a clutch which these 2t do. Also says cc and horsepower think hp is normally cant be over 5hp good there but cc is over with a 47-50mm piston

awesome clear and informative video

What would be better for offroad biking? Are there any bikes that go a long distance? Seems like the batteries only last a couple hours...

What for great comparison video! Thanks so much for the info!

We’re is that good looking pull start from on that engine in the first part Is it a two stroke that one ?? Thanks

looks like electric for me. Iowa law now considers any gasoline engine powered bicycle a moped, which you need to title, register, and insure. which is impossible to do without a vin number and Manufacturer Certificate of Origin.

Thank you for this video

You guys stock some cool stuff. Need to stock Cyclone motors like 2000W and the 3000W, and the 212 HF motor with jackshaft kits for it to go from LH side drive to RH side drive, so the bikes gears can be used. That 212 motor would be sweet on a bike with a Shimano internal geared 3 speed hub.

The battery isn't dead after 800 charges. It just drops in capacity slowly from there.

@Nickael7

5 жыл бұрын

Mine died, it swelled and exploded violently.

The one question I had wasn't answered. If the electric bike ran out of charge, would it be as easy to pedal as the gas powered bike? Is there noticable drag from the hub and it is noticeably heavier with the batteries? This is why I chose the gassy. The whole point to me was a power source but still having a pedal powered bike without needing assist.

@PenzoGrittyStem

Жыл бұрын

I have a 1000w conversion kit with a 48v battery , I've driven it hard for a year straight , 20 miles per day , I spent 600$ on a quality battery and it brought me to and from work for 3 months straight with no problem , over all I've had a year with no problems . Tge hard part of having a high powered motor is you just never get a consistent read on your battery , I've often times gone fast and not made it back home I need a second battery at this point . It's fading, as it fades I learned that driving slower gives me significantly more distance , so sadly it looks like to have a worry free day of riding long distance , you need 2 batteries . I was driving 10 miles per day at my old job. But I was going fast , almost full speed at times because I had to go on service roads , top speed was 50 km per hour which was significantly enough speed for a bike frame which isn't build to sustain 50 km constantly , you have to check , maintain and reinforce your axels with torque arms and constantly change your brake pads , keep that in mind . My over all view on ebikes is that they are good , but situational, the truth about engines is , we are not there yet with the technology, we are good , but simply not there where we need to be with regards to longevity and somehow figuring out how to self charge while riding goes. After a full year of rising an ebike hard , like I weigh 230 lbs , tge battery and motorized wheel weigh easy 25 lbs on tge bike , my sons bobike seat which holds 70 lbs ,is 12 lbs and school his school bag and of course my son at 60 lbs . Were talking over 310 lbs of weight that thing drags with ease pretty much . So it's being worked hard yes , but again 600$ for the battery 300for tge conversion kit ,( that was pre pandemic, they've jumped since, but try ebay ), the bike,steel frame 125$ marketplace ,torque arm 15$ , fenders 20$ flashing and front light 800 lumons 24$ , brake pads 10$, per year 50$ depending how you ride , helmet , the most important thing , I was hit by a car 1st time in my life , not my fault but 3 days after starting to wear a helmet, fractured shoulder but head was safe . Oh and 2 pairs of tires because I am kind of crazy how I ride and needed snow tires too , not genuine ones just well threaded , I'm in Canada. So yes it's costly the first year , but once yiur set up its just maintenance. I wish I could get 100 km on a single charge but again the downfall is that these batteries don't last even if you get the high end lithium ion battery , but again I've traveled probably 4000 km over this year approximately so can I complain overall , no . Just makes me sad that my batteries not whatvit used to be , but as is this game at the moment. I'll have to get another and then I'll be happy. We need longer lasting , and batteries with longevity. I wrote all of this while charging my battery in a metro station in montreal because my battery died , stuck charging , been an hour , keep this in mind , do yiu have 3 to 4 hours to charge you battery if you get caught out somewhere? I've been stranded 7 times 3 were major , out of tge city and had no choice but to spend 2 hours in tge middle of some small town at a park, tgebonly available socket I could find . If I had to drive long distances I'd go gas but tgey are loud motirs to my understanding , I saw one once and I was embarrassed for the guy driving it lol , but whatever works ! . Have a good day .

Would love a video regarding the bbr jackshaft kit!

Watching this in 2022 when you talk about the gas prices man i bet everyone misses those days.

they are for street use if 49cc or smaller or 250watt and a top speed of 19mph some states have no restriction in qld Australia you have no power or size restrictions but it's mostly open country roads in city life states it's heavily restricted.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Very true, there are may restrictions for both gas and electric bikes. We recommend looking into local laws before purchasing any motorized bike or engine kit.

I have a vector frame with a QS273 H40 motor on economical mode on a single charge I can exceed 180miles on a single charge at the cost of about £0.04pence to fully charge it .... you forgot to mention how many times you’ll have to replace the piston rings

here in texas gas bike are legal i see them everywhere i even used to ride one i would keep up with 35mph traffic after that the bike was limited

I like the 2stroke ; ) you can shave the head an get 60km + with a simple shave and tune , air ram mod + exhaust mod :D Damn I thought you were gunna have a race : /

Im curious about how well bike tires will hold up for extended usage at 35 mph... That seems well outside of the operating range of any normal bike. Does anyone have experience with this?

@andyrichards4069

6 жыл бұрын

Never a Dull Moment they actually hold up pretty well as long as you have everything aligned properly they could last you anywhere from 4 to 7 or 8 months

@TheNwr1

6 жыл бұрын

Well, I know there are plenty of good tires for touring bikes, which last you hundreds, maybe even over a thousand miles. Though I'm not sure what the average speed of a cyclist is (definitely less than 35 mph though), I'd guess that pro cyclists hit those speeds consistently, so their tires have to hold up too.

If you are on a budget and immediately need a reliable form of transportation, $3 here and there to fill up the tank is much better than $500+ up front.

how does the engine produce electricity for the spark? if it doesnt have an alternator you would need to recharge it right?

@brzduk

6 жыл бұрын

nouse use it has a built in magneto

In the UK you might get more police attention with a petrol bike. I wonder if you can register them though.

you got me hypnotized

Hey man , what about an hybrid bicicle , is it pratical to make a bike that runs with a eletric motor powered by a gas generator ?

@bikeberry

5 жыл бұрын

We have a few Hybrid bikes on our site. They utilize an electric wheel and a gas engine.

If you know what you are doing you can build the gas bike in about 5 hours I've built five or six of them and that is including re lacing spokes on the rear wheel installing rear sprocket

@frankelias89er

3 жыл бұрын

Can you sale me one of your gas bikes

@michaelthomas788

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankelias89er people come to me with the kid in the bike they want to put it on that's why I built so many I'm a grease monkey AKA mechanic which is why I built so many bikes I mean I can build most bikes motorcycles ATVs

J Hewitt here's a simple comparison... gas: (preferably 4-stroke, but not limited to), cost, good quality bike kits can range from $200-$400 for the complete setup of an 80cc engine ebike: kits can range greatly from $200-$500 for setups between 250W-1,000W, but these kits almost never include the battery which can cost $300-$400+ by themselves gas: power - a person of less than 150lbs can usually ride a 40cc motor at 15mph+ easily, over I recommend 80cc motor, which can carry a 250lbs person at 20mph+ easily, but can get speeds over 30+mph ebike: power, a person over 150lbs can use a 350W for pedal assist, but not recommended for unassisted, otherwise, 150lbs+ should get at least 750W-1,000w, speeds are still limited gas: range - average distance can be 30-40+ miles per tank and you can fill up in less than 60 seconds and gas stations are everywhere ebike: range - average distance can be 20-30 miles between charge, and charges can take 2.5-4.0+ hours (if you can find a place that will let you charge up) gas: longevity - a properly maintained motor can last 6,000-10,000+ miles, ebike: longevity - most batteries can be charged up to around 800 times average, around 18,000-20,000 miles, but the motors themselves rarely last more than 5,000-8,000 miles, simple and cheap breakdown maintenance on a 2 or 4 stroke motor is usually less than $75-$100, extending its life for another 5,000-7,000 miles ebike motors usually start at $200+, and the batteries at $300+, gas @ 20,000 miles $200+ for maintenance/repair or $400+ for replace ebike @ 20,000 miles $800 (replaced 3-4 times) & $300+ for battery = $1,100 cost and longevity......seems the maker of this video purposefully left some info out, seems a little bias

I've been thinking about building a hybrid bike...an electric front hub assembly, and the 2 stroke gas engine for the rear. Has anyone done this? Possibly adding a solar panel to charge the battery and an auxiliary wire to the battery from the gas engine to charge the battery as well. Haven't put too much thought into it as the front wheel/hub kits are expensive LOL.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

We haven't tried this ourselves either, but we would also like to see this if it has been done.

the best way to use them together, I think.

Have you try to make an hybrid. Electric front wheel and gas engine rear wheel ;)

@bikeberry

5 жыл бұрын

we sell them on our website!

I’ve got two cruiser gasbike builds and I love both of them.......but. They both require a lot of upkeep. They will be riding along just fine and suddenly wham and you get to peddle home! I gotta get me an Ebike for the reliability if nothing else.

Hi bro How can i reduce or silence my motorized bike noise?

@sonymicronin

3 жыл бұрын

Same i don't like the loud exhaust

@ 04:30 where can I get a Gigabyke for $600?! I’d buy one right now if I could find it for that price

@theinfoone

6 жыл бұрын

Cesar Bermudez it's the kit not the bike itself

@rays3995

6 жыл бұрын

Cesar Bermudez i can get u one

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

We carry a variety of Electric bikes and electric motor kits. Hopefully we have something that fits your needs. www.bikeberry.com/electric-bike-kits.html

I like how you ignore that charging an e-bike requires electricity, which is not free.

If your gonna do a video do some research I've modded my electric bike by upping the amps to give me more torque and voltage more speed you can mod an electric bike just like a petrol one. You can change the speed controller and many other mods on electric

my state both ebike and gas bike are allow but once reach over 30mph it will need a plate.i personally choice gas over electrict ..litilum battery are better choice for the ebike 300-500 for replacement thats roughtly 2 4 strokes huasheng 48cc kits..beside cost of replacement for battery i like having the advantage pulling to a gas station premix on the fly or straight gas to the tank..where i live its impossible to find a resturant or gas station that allow you to charge your ebike wether youre a customer or not.

You can go more places off road without toxic fumes and horrible loud noise on the bike. Plus the battery is replaceable and able to solar charge.

i want a electric start gas bike but after i recommended this engine kit and company to my neighbor and seen that the engine had leaks. and how he told me how he was treated after he paid and received his item. i might just as well buy ten of theses directly from china and sell the rest at 2x times the profit..

@nickadeletti7655

6 жыл бұрын

bluegoldent just buy a grom

@heavystarch100

4 жыл бұрын

@@nickadeletti7655 lol popularity killed their availability!! After the customization boom they are hard to find without paying an arm, leg and 4 fingers!!🤣

A 2 stroke, a 4 stroke and a bullet train are all different so they need different maintenance and different gas

Can you buy a complete gas bicycle already put together?

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

We do sell a kit package with which includes everything needed, though due to shipping it is is not possible to send everything pre-assembled.

ID be afraid to have an electric motor driving the front wheel. Id be afraid that if i accelerate it on a tight turn, the motor may pull the bike from underneath me (more or less pulling me to the ground) causing me to fall. This my not be the case but id rather rwd over fwd

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

This is a reasonable concern, but rest assured, the Modwheels do not generate enough torque to cause this sort of incident, especially not while moving into a turn.

A 2 stroke can be converted to low pressure steam or compressed air with no engine mods ...

Why not all 3 electric front wheel, gasoline engine and pedal? All in one bike?

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

If we could drop it into the ol' fusomatic to make a monster of a bike, we would. Unfortunately, that mix would require some sort of control box to regulate the motors into unison. These motors work at different speeds and through different means. The likely effect would be a boost in low end performance, with little to no boost in top speed. At some point, the more powerful gas engine would overpower the electric engine, causing a similar situation as trying to pedal while going down a steep hill; there will be motion from the engine but not enough speed or power to properly transfer any driving force.

Pity the gigabike is classed as a scooter and therefore needs a drivers licence and registration as a motorcycle in South Australia. ALL gas engines were re-classified as motorcycles as of 2016. All that's still legal are the e-bike conversions (ie, the hub wheel kits). For now.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

That's a good point. All regions have different restrictions and classifications to bikes. We recommend every rider to look into their local laws before purchasing any bike.

@databanks

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly - always best to check the laws for areas you plan to ride in - even if you're just visiting. No one wants to wind up with a ticket or worse. Also keep watch for sudden law changes - the ban on gas powered bikes here was sudden and with no media coverage. One day I'm riding a perfectly legal bike with a little 80cc, the next it's classed as a motorcycle. Lots of people suddenly owning bikes with no where to ride them.

I just ordered an engine kit for my bike. I live in a free state, so I’m gonna ride it to work every day.

can this fit for a mountain bike

I travel a lot in a semi truck. A 2 stroke all the way to get going quick to somewhere a few miles away. Just have to pull the bike out, put the front wheel on. Turn on the gas and away I go. On the way back shut the fuel off and let the bowl empty (which takes awhile), get back crack the drain for what didnt get sucked up, take the removable gas tank off, and finally the front wheel. All takes a matter of minutes. Until e bike batteries become better with charging and storage then I'll switch. It takes half a day to charge and they cant be stored at full charge for more than 2 days. Gas you can get up and go somewhere. The 100cc I have is noisy, but nobody seems to care. Next upgrade is a quieter muffler with chamber. I would like a 4 stroke, but they are pricey for the same power and may leak oil being stored sideways or worse into the crankcase breather. Overall 2 stroke for readiness. Nothing's perfect.

i have the 80cc kit on my Schwinn Point Beach... i broke the piston rod on that engine so installed a new engine... while i was buying bike parts i also went ahead and got a 48v electric front wheel kit... now i have gas and electric... my kit is a whole mess of wires that is open to modification... replace the 3 phase junction out of the motor controller with 6 relays... apply throttle to the front wheel works as normal.... take the throttle off the relays switch to lead into a 3 phase rectifier into my 48v 30 amp charge controller back into the battery system... then i will have enough power for a hydrogen fuel cell with a venturi valve for mixing a little used motor oil...

There is another option! That is a four stroke engine that burns cleaner and quieter! Might not be as fast top speed, but the get better mileage and longer life.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of options available. We recommend our customers select the product that best suits their needs and budget.

I made a solar panel attachment for my electric bike and I never run out. I just flip a switch and it charges while I’m riding

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

We love this kind of innovation! Keep up the good work!

@richarddalton5191

6 жыл бұрын

jade brown Is the solar wired directly to the battery?

@sweettooth80

6 жыл бұрын

richard dalton I had to add a fuse block to the wire but yes mine is

@sweettooth80

6 жыл бұрын

Joey Matheson I can try to sure I don’t really know how to record very well

@shookrii

6 жыл бұрын

jade brown you peaked my interest. Tell us more.

Hello there! Nice informative video! However you left out the cost of the oil a two stroke engine must have mixed in the gas! With that, it is not a lot of money, but if you use a top quality synthetic oil it can get more expensive, but it will help with reaching the higher miles before it gets tired! If the mix ratio is 30/1 that would mean for every 30 gals of gas at $2.50/gal, you would need to add a gallon of oil to the mix and a good quality synthetic oil can be expensive! Like around another $20.00!

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

You are correct, we left out the price of the oil because it ranges between brand, retailer, and type of oil used. Similarly, the price of gas also varies from locations. For our location, Los Angles County, gas prices can vary up to 50 cents.

I wish I had me one of these kind of bikes because you don't have to worry about moving the paddle

I wonder how these bikes do uphill?? I live in a hilly area

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

4 stroke internal combustion engines usually do better than 2 strokes when it comes to hills and pulling power. Electric bikes usually have more torque than most internal combustion engines, but it also depends on the engines watt capacity to use more power for hills. We'd suggest looking at a 4 stroke or a 500w or larger electric motor.

I know there are laws on motorized bikes. Are there required licences and licence plates?

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Great question. Many states have regulations for top speed, engine size, and power output; we would advise all customers to look into their local laws. If the bike fits within these regulations, no license or registration is required, as they will be classified as bicycles.

Yo where can i buy the bike you put the motor on it looks dope af!

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

all the bikes we use are listed for sale on our website

Which kit adds more weight to the bike including the gas and battery?

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Really Depends, 2 stroke? 4 Stroke? Mod Wheel? Gigabyke Electric Conversion?

@bitronic1

6 жыл бұрын

BikeBerrycom The two models in this video.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

We no longer carry the electric engine shown in this video, we instead have switched to its newer counterpart, which has better torque and top speed, but also and increased size and weight. They are similar in weight, adding roughly 20 lbs. Though the distribution of the weight is different, as the electric kit is spread towards the front of the bike and the gas kit is localized to the center of the bike.

E-bike: "I enjoy riding" Gas bike: "I got too many DUIIs."

746 W = ~ 1hp. it doesn't seem economically brilliant to spend up to 4 times the initial investment for somewhere between 1/10 and 1/3 of the power depending on the kits you're comparing

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

There are numerous products and builds available, we recommend our customers to select the proper products that suit their needs and budget.

Note to self: Build bike trailer that includes a gas engine hooked up to a generator, and an adapter to plug that in instead of the battery. Much better range and you can add cargo for long trips. Unhook it and you have a nice quiet electric bike for going around town.

@bikeberry

5 жыл бұрын

great idea

If you want to travel 100 miles in an eletric bike. you going to need to take with you an gas electric power plant with you to recharge that batery. I rather have the gas bike and be able to run 100 miles on a tank and those thanks are half galons electric bike to me are 👎

@jonneet2126

6 жыл бұрын

You can buy ebikes with a pedal assist range of 40 plus miles. Add an extra charged battery (lithium ion) and you can obtain, say and 80 mile range. You can buy new ebikes that fit this description for under 1000.00.

@DevinLindstrom

6 жыл бұрын

My Ebike can do 100 miles if I go 30 mph but because it has 25 hp and can do 70 mph I usually just got 45-50 mph with the rest of traffic.

@cristianconstantin6496

6 жыл бұрын

Devin Lindstrom yeah and yours costs more than a motorcycle

@DevinLindstrom

6 жыл бұрын

Cristian Constantin it cost me $3,000 to build so yeah it did cost as much as a motorcycle but it has as much power as a motorcycle and only weighs 110 lbs. Plus I never have had a range issue and it costs $.16 to go 50 miles.

@yakz9885

6 жыл бұрын

You can get a bugger battery

Anyway you can solar charge the electric bike?

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

There are DIY tutorials to modify the bike to be solar charged, though it may void the warranty.

E wheel on front for quiet and gass on back for distance and speed.

I rode an electric bicycle in Japan. The batteries still aren’t ready. Most people I’ve seen in Japan don’t even bother replacing the battery after it stops holding a charge due to replacement cost. These are good brands too like Bridgestone and Panasonic.

@Builder-zb1py

Жыл бұрын

Does some Japanese people use gas bicycle?

@yamatodamashii1179

Жыл бұрын

@Builder4005 I’ve never seen a gas engine bicycle while I was there. Scooters are everywhere though. Maybe it has something to do with traffic law but I can’t say for sure.

Water bottle shot looks like someone pissing in a protein shake container.

What u are not saying is what is more load bareing, I shop with mine because I don't own a car, so I am looking for something able to handle heavyweight that's counting my heavyweight.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Most of our customers aren't concerned about the maximum load a bike can carry, but are more concerned with top speed. The general rule with either type of bike, gas or electric, is that the more weight the lower speeds and MPG. All of our products, both gas and electric powered bikes, can carry a load of 250 lbs with ease. Typically, gas bikes can carry a larger load. If carrying a load for a long distance is of concern, an electric bike would not be ideal as the battery would run out quicker than a tank of gas.

You do know that electricity costs too right? It's funny how the comparison wasn't mentioned.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

True, but that is not something that can be easily calculated as charging may be done at different locations other than at the owner's residence, such as work, a friend's house, stores, restaurants, and parks. Besides those factors the cost of electricity differs between different regions. It is definitely a cost, but it is a far less immediate and noticeable cost when compared to the increasing cost of petrol fuel.

@CHixon

6 жыл бұрын

The cost of charging is zero if you have a free weekend plan.

@420f37

6 жыл бұрын

R Arbuckle it's also zero if you plug it into your neighbor's external plugs outside their house without them catching you

@temich1985

6 жыл бұрын

If electricity would cost more than gas then electric cars won't pop on the market so rapidly

@jollyroger5319

6 жыл бұрын

R Arbuckle that is all god for weekends, but what about daily use? what happens when it runs out of charge on monday afternoon.

awesome

Electric bike battery will take you maybe 20 miles if you pedal along. If you don't pedal the battery may not get you 10 miles. As the battery ages, your battery range drops significantly.

Didn't include the lack of range on the electric bike. Otherwise, good informative review.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Good point. This is largely do to the variate watts and voltage that are available with different batteries and motors that will effect the range and speeds capable. We have a video planned that will focus entirely on comparing different types of electric bikes. Stay tuned until then.

few days for install? i can take down,refurbish and put it back together in one afternoon. 2 strokes are one of the simplest engines ever made. I like electric bikes, but where I live, those batts wouldnt last for 10kilometers. Also, lifespan of decent 2 stroke vehicles WITH regular maintenance is waaaay beyond 10k miles.

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Everyone has their own skill level. The majority of calls we receive are from first time users who've never worked on an engine before. We wanted to play it on the safe for the average person that is new to bike modifications.

@ApocGuy

6 жыл бұрын

for ease of use and maintenance, electric wins the day hands down. but for long term use, you cant (yet at least) beat well proven and tested 2/4 stroke vehicles. I like both (EV and ICE) and use them both quite often. each has its own purpose. in my country and Ebike over 250w has to be registered as moped, just like 49 and onward mopeds. We do have ene exception; any moped limited to 25 km/h are treated as bicycle (no need for driving license, still have to register it).

Comparing the performance of a mid-drive gas motor with a front-drive e-motor is like comparing iPhone X with iPhone 3Gs

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

Everyone has different needs. Gas motors typically have higher performance for a lower cost, but require more maintenance. Though requiring more maintenance, they can be repaired more easily and at a lower cost than electric bikes. Electric bikes do not produce emissions and provide a smoother ride than gas engines.

@mattburrows2615

6 жыл бұрын

I'd take my silent mid drive 2000w electric over a Nokia 5110 gas engine any day.

@ryanzimmerman2375

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Burrows what motor u using

@mattburrows2615

6 жыл бұрын

@@ryanzimmerman2375 I'm using the Bafang BBSHD system. Whilst not running at peak as previously stated, it maxs at 1600w with 160nm of torque on current 48v battery. If run on a quality 52v pack, that would bring it fairly close to 2kw peak. I have done 2000km with it and it and have been very impressed by its efficiency and performance. Highly recommended.

@Nickael7

5 жыл бұрын

@@mattburrows2615 Works well for someone light, I am heavy, the Bafang 1000 watts BBSHD model did not performed well for me. I prefer my KTM 65 engine on my bicycle !!! It puts easily 15 Hp out of the box ! And it rips going up hills !

You added the cost of the fuel, but forgot to add the price of electricity (still has a cost).

I have both electric and gas bikes. I can honestly say that I prefer the gas bike. If I'm going a far distance, I will usually take the gas bike. Where I live, it gets to be 100+ degrees and I don't like leaving my bike out in the sun and it ruining my batteries. Quite a few comments I've read say that the engines are dirty, hot, and noisy. Get a 4-stroke like I've got and it's so much cleaner than the 2-strokes, and it's a lot quieter especially with an aftermarket exhaust. You won't burn yourself if you are careful. Plus, gas is a ton cheaper to buy the kit and with a 4-stroke, you have the convenience of just pulling up to a gas pump and filling without mixing oil.

@Lysergic_

6 жыл бұрын

since you know more than me on this, do you know if its road legal to have a gas engine bike if im 14 (provided i have the speedometer which apparently i need)

Man i friend bought an eletric bike snd it lasted him like three months and now the spokes are coming off the wheel

i've never been a fan of how slow these ebikes go. gas bikes for the win! best thing with 4 stroke, when ur outta gas, stop at a gas station and put a couple bucks in the tank and ur set for the week depending on how far u drive

Why do you have the motor on the front wheel mots are on the back

@bikeberry

5 жыл бұрын

Check our our video on drive trains to see the differences.

Ebikes do need a break in period. The battery when new should be charged to 100% the first 6 times it's used. After that if you have a smart charger, to more than double the life of your battery, you can only charge it to 80%. Ebikes are also 50 state legal everywhere a regular bike can go. Ebikes can also be hot rodded with modifications. A BBSHD can have a cruising speed of 30+mph with a 48v battery, change that to 52v and you will go faster. If you want to bump it up to 50+mph, change the controller and get a 72 or 88v battery. The motor can handle it, but any warranty would be voided. That's just a start.

Actually, I’d say electric bikes can be modified just as much. For example, motor wattage, ESC type (stock or professional with finer tuning adjustments via software), number of batteries for increased range, voltage (32, 46,58v).

@DarkShad03

6 жыл бұрын

Forgot about the BMS. Higher quality one allows for faster charging.

What if you did both on the same bike

i already have a electric moped i am tired of charging it i cant go long distance so i bought motorised bike kit i will install it fill the tank you are ready to go but at electric bikes go 20km and charge at least 5 hours with motorised bike fill the tank and mix the oil (2-3 min) go at least 4o km.

@ledenhimeganidleshitz144

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen reports of a small gas motor/generator. I think it can be used to recharge or to run as you drive to greatly extend the range. Take a little break some time and it'll charge while you get a Coke!

get a small alternator connect it to wheel make a make gear box for 500 to 1 ratio get a 12v to 110 adpter plug it into the charging port bam keeps battery full no charging

How do electric bikes hold up in the rain

you forgot to give the kWh price as a factor

2-stroke engines can theoretically last forever if you take care if them properly.

Most of gas bike kits are cheaply built and constantly break, had one before and spent 80% of time fixing it, plus they are not reliable at all if you need to commute. Got an ebike wheel motor kit and its been fantastic to me! I use it to commute to school, saving $400/ semester just on parking and I park bike right next to my classes

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

We're glad you found your perfect engine kit, but lets watch our language and keep this channel family friendly. Everyone has their own needs and desires for a ride. Some prefer electric, others prefer gas. It all comes down to ever individuals preference.

I like that these bikes are for commuting yet at 2:41 the engine clearly states its "purpose" haha. might have to take that sticker off before hitting the roads

@bikeberry

6 жыл бұрын

All of our engines, and many small engine in general, are intended for recreational use on private roads, closed, circuits, or private land. Many regions do not legally approve the use of these engines on public roads of highways. That sticker is to err on the side of caution. We recommend checking your local DMV for the most accurate laws regarding motorized bicycles.

If you could create a hybrid fuel bike that would be really dope