Elden ring | Sorcerers Play An Entirely Different Game

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An amateur showcase of what is possible with Elden ring's magic system
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  • @clankymocha
    @clankymocha9 күн бұрын

    Behold, A Sequel No One Asked For! : kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ypuh2LOCorLIls4.htmlsi=otaBzUKp-rZZGqnp

  • @broccolin

    @broccolin

    8 күн бұрын

    Wowza

  • @kingcyclops4079
    @kingcyclops4079 Жыл бұрын

    “While you were off getting maidens, I mastered the art of sorcery”

  • @raptorate2872

    @raptorate2872

    Жыл бұрын

    They are more "intelligent" after all compared to the religious faith Mormons and the typical unga Bunga low IQ strength bros

  • @slinderb.4592

    @slinderb.4592

    Жыл бұрын

    Maidenless behavior.

  • @zangetsu1597

    @zangetsu1597

    Жыл бұрын

    @@slinderb.4592 Much better use of time. Kudos sorcerer

  • @hyper_channel

    @hyper_channel

    Жыл бұрын

    Disregard maidens, acquire sorcery.

  • @markdunham9634

    @markdunham9634

    Жыл бұрын

    Better if you move "off" after "maidens."

  • @pintchmysquid6521
    @pintchmysquid6521 Жыл бұрын

    "And thus my opponent was slain" "What weapon did you use?" "A Fuck ton of pixie dust"

  • @nickmalachai2227

    @nickmalachai2227

    Жыл бұрын

    Faith, trust, and the magic equivalent of an autocannon. Well...int, trust, and the magic autocannon.

  • @Cloudeusz
    @Cloudeusz Жыл бұрын

    Went from an action game to a strategy game

  • @cesare_1302

    @cesare_1302

    Жыл бұрын

    As it should be. Almost chess like

  • @axain7784

    @axain7784

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cesare_1302 5d chess

  • @ten7554

    @ten7554

    Жыл бұрын

    Action is strategic

  • @GiganFTW

    @GiganFTW

    Жыл бұрын

    Pray tell what’s the strategy spam magic spells? 😂

  • @liomurasaki

    @liomurasaki

    Жыл бұрын

    Turning Elden Ring into an RTS

  • @leongwaikit6658
    @leongwaikit6658 Жыл бұрын

    This is how magic battle should be done, It is not about how powerful the magic is. It is how creative and prepared you are.

  • @lonewanderer1328

    @lonewanderer1328

    Жыл бұрын

    “Yes, you’re big brained… but can you use it? Time to find out.”

  • @nriusx1832

    @nriusx1832

    Жыл бұрын

    it ain't magic if it ain't flashy -a particular magician

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed, magic comboing is the true mastery of magic. Managing memory slots, mp, making sure the spells tie well into other spells, choosing a weapon that scales with your stat and combos with spells. The lower stats, so you must be more careful. But the best part is the variety.

  • @jjedmonds-ml4kb

    @jjedmonds-ml4kb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Razielts1 exactly this, i also like to memorise my spells and were i put them for that nice chain cast, this is the true meaning to be a caster, most spell can work and theres a handful that will really do some dmg but when you go against a true caster, they will use a range of different spells and tactics, my favourite combo to date is using elden star, then black flame ritual chained into red lighting, use spell duration talisman and youll get a full charge for all 3 and get a massive aoe going, was a nice build could switch between int and faith effortlessly and really didnt matter what weapon i used and in pvp, i really made players think about how to attack me because i started with a strength build as well but the most fun ive had is with caster builds by far

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jjedmonds-ml4kb very nice, i go for thematic casters, so i do combos that way. Like the godskin death lord using all death magic and Godslayer magic with a few sorceries in the mix. Dragon cult acolyte uses Erd tree magic, and dragon cult magic and so on. This way i made 10 magic builds

  • @CuppaJoe313
    @CuppaJoe313Ай бұрын

    As a devious buffoon once said: "Shit man, this wizard war is fucked. I just saw a guy clap his hands together and say "the ten hells" or some similar shit, and every one around him turned inside out, had their tibia explode and then disappeared. The camera didn't even go onto him, that's how common shit like this is. My ass is casting frostbite and level 2 poison. I think I just heard "power word:scrunch" two groups over. I gotta get the fuck outta here."

  • @YeahItsDiv

    @YeahItsDiv

    Ай бұрын

    that guy funny as fuck he once told me to forgive myself, iv been a changed man since

  • @shyeluk

    @shyeluk

    5 күн бұрын

    ahaha, forgot where does it come from tho?

  • @reshankjain6622
    @reshankjain6622 Жыл бұрын

    Man now I understand why my friends make fun of me for playing magic

  • @mrbearjangles8600

    @mrbearjangles8600

    Жыл бұрын

    it's also because it's kinda... really easy... you just cast and the enemies don't dodge.

  • @michaelmilakovic9701

    @michaelmilakovic9701

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s not easy, if you want to have enough mana and intelligence to actually do damage you end up not being very tanky, also the animations for spell casting are lengthy and you cannot dodge while you are casting, so you need to have timing down and know the boss fights well because you die in 1-2 hits Practically doing a no hit run playing squishy mage

  • @Batateto_Sus

    @Batateto_Sus

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mrbearjangles8600 ah yes, no enemy in the entire game dodges spells

  • @Oni1Tap

    @Oni1Tap

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelmilakovic9701 magic is broken..its by far the easiest way to beat the game

  • @p1ngerss

    @p1ngerss

    Жыл бұрын

    casting is so boring, when i made a mage character i ended up just using a magic claymans harpoon with ice spear and barely used any spells

  • @stirrcrazy2704
    @stirrcrazy2704 Жыл бұрын

    See this is a COOL mage duel. When neither person is running Stars of Ruin or Moonveil, and people actually use all their memory slots, these are insanely fun. I killed a guy with TIBIA SUMMONS the other day on an int faith hybrid build near level 200. There are so many cool spells in this game but for some reason people only use like 3 in duels. I have MASSIVE respect for you using Loretta’s mastery like that. So cool.

  • @ghostderazgriz

    @ghostderazgriz

    Жыл бұрын

    Stars of ruin isn't even that bad anymore since the nerf to its tracking. Star shower is significantly worse. has better tracking and deal stagger damage.

  • @naproupi

    @naproupi

    Жыл бұрын

    stars of ruin is a neccessary counter to assholes who just run after you and spam rolls waiting for you to empty your mp. In duels it's rarely neccessary, but against invaders who just flee when they're alone and hide behind monsters, it's delicate to win without it.

  • @macfisher1814

    @macfisher1814

    Жыл бұрын

    int faith hybrid builds are so fun, I've been doing this one for fun where I mostly use short range incantations (sword sorceries, dragonclaw, lightning weapons, etc) and it works a surprising amount of the time because people r not ready for it. ghostflame explosion is surprisingly great actually.

  • @Leiska86

    @Leiska86

    Жыл бұрын

    The game just handles large spell lists really poorly. You can only have one active at a time and you can only rotate it in one direction. It's just really clunky and requires more practice just to become somewhat comfortable with than most casual players are prepared to tolerate, particularly when a lot of the spells are functionally clones of each other with just different looking projectiles for the opponent to dodge roll.

  • @francisharkins

    @francisharkins

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​​@@ghostderazgriz Honestly for me Stars of Ruins tracking wasn't really the issue, but more the poise stun locking they did so they could close the distance with Moonveil or RoB early on in the games release. Or the pure sorcery stun killer. Stars of Ruin to stun lock well the caster closes the distance with Glintblades.

  • @tendrillion3580
    @tendrillion3580 Жыл бұрын

    In dark souls 2 i strictly played a pure sorcery build for almost 600 hours and i had to get creative and use two staves, one on each hand, one the fastest casting staff and the other the slowest. I had to cast from both to mess with people's timing when dodging, it actually worked pretty consistently, but without doing that i would've been doomed in 90% of the duels.

  • @kimjanek646

    @kimjanek646

    Жыл бұрын

    I also ran some sorcerer built and mainly used the different types of spells to rollcatch people. Also had some poison clouds and weapon to give me some space against aggressive players. DS2 PVP was just the best 😍

  • @neenm4299

    @neenm4299

    Жыл бұрын

    That's cool man! You were messing with their brains! Never let them know your next move!

  • @cesare_1302

    @cesare_1302

    Жыл бұрын

    A pro caster move I say

  • @JoNnYScHiZo1006

    @JoNnYScHiZo1006

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@kimjanek646 that's a top tier comment DS2 PvP is my favorite out of all the souls games

  • @prasadnithianandam7614

    @prasadnithianandam7614

    Жыл бұрын

    What staffs did you use if you mind me asking? I run a caster build in DS2 so I'm curious.

  • @superphatcakes
    @superphatcakes Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: Anti-Mage Mage builds are hilarious. Most mages run Eternal Darkness or one of the Moons, especially when facing another caster...but there's a few spells that can be used to counteract this, namely Briars of Punishment, as well as the Night Sorceries to some extent. BoP is really good at throwing other mages for a loop, especially since it's not often used in typical gameplay (because its otherwise outclassed in some form), and because of it's timing compared to other spells.

  • @doggosaregood.651

    @doggosaregood.651

    Жыл бұрын

    And if you're at the right distance you get a guaranteed Comet after landing Briars of Punishment for insane damage

  • @aidanhansnata4348

    @aidanhansnata4348

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe canon of Haima ignores Eternal darkness as well, though correct me if I’m wrong.

  • @superphatcakes

    @superphatcakes

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe you are correct, Cannon of Haima isn't affected by Eternal Darkness

  • @cesare_1302

    @cesare_1302

    Жыл бұрын

    Noted

  • @Data-AnalystSera

    @Data-AnalystSera

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly they should have Vow of Silence in this game. Not only would it make certain pve areas hilarious to navigate, it would be a good way to dumpster mages in pvp AND would fit in the lore too (there was a war between the erdtree and the academy and you're telling me NEITHER side learned to cancel spells?)

  • @LichCrypt
    @LichCrypt Жыл бұрын

    Melee fans: Bonk with big stick, bonk with fast stick too. Sorcery enjoyers: *Touhou music starts playing*

  • @rafaelpenagomez9912

    @rafaelpenagomez9912

    Жыл бұрын

    I can confirm stick does bonk

  • @massimilianoreali4398

    @massimilianoreali4398

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@rafaelpenagomez9912 but there is something that make a greater bonk than havel hammer?

  • @TheOriginalDarkGlitch

    @TheOriginalDarkGlitch

    Жыл бұрын

    pew pew pew lol

  • @arcturus960

    @arcturus960

    Жыл бұрын

    I use the biggest as they the bestest. Enemy go smoosh

  • @gastoncoscia5031

    @gastoncoscia5031

    Жыл бұрын

    Me with a fingerprint shield and lionels armor:magic isnt real

  • @joshuaanson5939
    @joshuaanson5939 Жыл бұрын

    They play a completely different game, and look really cool doing so. Unfortunately it doesn't involve ever actually hitting the enemy players.

  • @shawnmarcum8078
    @shawnmarcum8078 Жыл бұрын

    I really think From Software should make a game where magic is the core focus of the combat. Imagine how cool that would be.

  • @AshenSentinel24

    @AshenSentinel24

    Жыл бұрын

    It already is like that. Magic is broken as fuck

  • @shawnmarcum8078

    @shawnmarcum8078

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AshenSentinel24 No. Just PURE CASTING magic! No melee. Magic 8s the essential piece. They already made a great ranged boss in Darklurker. Now just make more bosses like that.

  • @InfernityKnight

    @InfernityKnight

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AshenSentinel24 not as bad as ds2 some would even argue magic is still outclassed by melee in elden ring

  • @kevgmei

    @kevgmei

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to at least see a staff that casts a different spell with each move! Maybe R1 for Soul Arrow/Glintstone Pebble, hold for Heavy Soul Arrow/Comet, maybe R2 while charging for Soul Stream/Comet Azur, or hit R2 for Soulmass/Carian equivalent, etc

  • @gillaliglaou2840

    @gillaliglaou2840

    Жыл бұрын

    um.... look at the supposed "leaks" now

  • @parkpatt
    @parkpatt Жыл бұрын

    people complain about balance in this game, but it's barely a year old and these devs had to consider SO many different playstyles and combat mechanics. I think they're doing great.

  • @clankymocha

    @clankymocha

    Жыл бұрын

    Hot take: sekiro aside, this arguably is already the most balanced fromsoft game yet, very few things feel like they're not viable as of now. Dark souls didn't come near that and even Bloodborne had like a third of its weapons be very underwhelming compared to the rest. Though maybe Bloodborne and ER are tied with this

  • @waffler-yz3gw

    @waffler-yz3gw

    5 ай бұрын

    best way to make a balanced game is just give every player the same items tbh

  • @urtoryu_dy_althraidn

    @urtoryu_dy_althraidn

    5 ай бұрын

    @@clankymocha I completely agree on that.

  • @Yorikoification

    @Yorikoification

    4 ай бұрын

    Stop making excuses for them, anyone with two braincells to bang together can figure out that if you make bleed procs take 15% off a healthbar, ofc it's gonna be completely broken.

  • @Xeno1_3

    @Xeno1_3

    4 ай бұрын

    Everything is balanced if everything is op- Sun tzu art of war

  • @887frodo
    @887frodo Жыл бұрын

    I love mana-rich magic builds. The spells look cool and are creative. I hope the DLC bring more of them (specially blood magic, cuz we have like 2 of them and they suck) This battle was something else by the way!

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    Not 2, 5, and they don't suck, you need to combo them well i use them on the outer god Warlock. But going full blood requires a hybrid warrior build

  • @sanguillotine

    @sanguillotine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Razielts1what are the other 3 blood sorceries?

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sanguillotine so you got briars of sin and the other briars spell as sorcery Incantations you have blood boon, blood claw and blood flies. Those first two come from Mohg, the final one you find on the mohgwyn palace area on a tunnel

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sanguillotine blood flies combo well with briars of punishment, at mid to short range blood boon followed by blood claw. On my Outer god Warlock build i use all status effects to combo those spells together with other statuses

  • @sanguillotine

    @sanguillotine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Razielts1 incantations ≠ sorceries if I have to switch spell focus I don’t want it.

  • @kmikaele9408
    @kmikaele9408Ай бұрын

    This is what Gandolf vs. Saruman should have been.

  • @arealfakeidentity3355
    @arealfakeidentity3355 Жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite spells is actually Night Maiden's Mist, even though it damages myself I get into really wacky situations trying to run around and push enemies into the mist.

  • @cursedimageseveryday5559

    @cursedimageseveryday5559

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro that shit drops my FPS to like 20...with rtx 3080ti. It's a PC players doomsday device 😅

  • @citsune174

    @citsune174

    Жыл бұрын

    I use it mainly for light, spammy, and high-damage PVE enemies, or groups. I.E, the types that tend to surround you and stunlock you to death if you miss one dodge. Sometimes, the best method of dealing with a gaggle of aggressors is by just throwing poison mist at them, it seems.

  • @inserisciunnome

    @inserisciunnome

    Жыл бұрын

    @@citsune174 you would have been right at home in WW1

  • @fallatiuso
    @fallatiuso3 ай бұрын

    Damn... Now imagine if magic wasn't restricted to changing spells with a single button only. (Or if magic by default slowly regenerated like stamina.)

  • @Flames_Spirit

    @Flames_Spirit

    5 күн бұрын

    I would be a monster

  • @nickz5986
    @nickz5986 Жыл бұрын

    Y’all playing hog warts legacy lmao

  • @mr.snowflake5895

    @mr.snowflake5895

    Жыл бұрын

    Raya Lucaria legacy

  • @methheadfreestyle482

    @methheadfreestyle482

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mr.snowflake5895 caria manor😂😂

  • @cesare_1302

    @cesare_1302

    Жыл бұрын

    "Did you put a larval tear in the Amber Egg, Tarnished?" Rennala asked calmly

  • @pillager2327

    @pillager2327

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably more fun than hogwarts legacy anyway

  • @ClacksonHale

    @ClacksonHale

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cesare_1302 Calmly.

  • @silverfenrir440
    @silverfenrir440 Жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who actually look for "magic" first when thinking of playing an open world fantasy game? The concept just kinda sticked to me.

  • @abridgedbog7753

    @abridgedbog7753

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @d.h.berger7299

    @d.h.berger7299

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, pretty much anyone, with proper training, can swing a sharp piece of metal or shoot a bow - but to become a living artillery and bombard enemies with powers from beyond is another story entirely. Also, versatility

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    You're definitely not the only one, I've played all souls games, and rpg games with magic. Dark souls 1,2,3 Archmage using all 4 spell types, Bloodborne Kos parasite build. Now in Elden ring I'm doing all thematic mages: Primeval Master ( Azur & Lusat mode ) Only Raya Lucaria comet, start and crystal magic. Carian Royal ( Moonblade & Darkmoon ) - only carian magic + ice magic Sellian Trickster - only invisibility and bubble magic Fire Lord High Priest - Fire giant and Lava magic Dragon Acolyte ( needs dlc to help him ) - Dragon cult + Erd tree magic Dragon Druid - Dragon communion magic Crucible Beastman - Beast magic and Crucible magic Golden order Paladin - Erd tree + Fundamentalist magic Outer god Warlock - All status magic, poison, blood, rot, madness, ice Godskin Death lord - Godslayer + Death magic

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    Gravity magic is on both sorcerer's ( not trickster ) and the godskin.

  • @Razielts1

    @Razielts1

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@d.h.berger7299 not only that but actually mastering the combos, and not being a cheesy spamming turret

  • @closery
    @closery3 ай бұрын

    much more logical than any harry potter fight

  • @emartintech
    @emartintech2 ай бұрын

    Wait till these guys figure out that night magic doesn’t get absorbed by that thing

  • @manythings47
    @manythings4726 күн бұрын

    2:03 My man parries a spell. Amazing

  • @MonsterJuiced
    @MonsterJuiced Жыл бұрын

    The biggest drawback is cycling through spells. Hopefully they implement a keybind system at some point for each spell slot

  • @clankymocha

    @clankymocha

    Жыл бұрын

    the way i'd do it would be making spells equipable to your pouch, it's a simple change but it could mean the world for casters.

  • @MonsterJuiced

    @MonsterJuiced

    Жыл бұрын

    @clankymocha that would be a quick way to do it yea. Not a bad idea :)

  • @stockehistorica1349
    @stockehistorica1349 Жыл бұрын

    This takes me back to playing Gen 3 Armored Core. The spells and spell redirection reminds me of shooting missiles and anti-missile pods.

  • @jeffkuo7745
    @jeffkuo7745 Жыл бұрын

    This is cooler to watch than the any of the Stars of Ruin/Moonveil/Glintstone Pebble builds out there!

  • @lastboss2418

    @lastboss2418

    Жыл бұрын

    Cooler to watch because its easy to Fight n presured.. Btw nuub star of ruin already nerfed to the ground.. Its not i Like moonveil cause that thing is hard to fight when either player laging.. Pebble also very easy to dodge

  • @MamaTrixxieAsmr

    @MamaTrixxieAsmr

    5 ай бұрын

    Moonveil is cool The issue is the people using it.

  • @Xeno1_3
    @Xeno1_34 ай бұрын

    Fighting a sorcerer as a sorcerer makes you feel like your having an anime battle

  • @brothermatatoe
    @brothermatatoe Жыл бұрын

    This was legit. Props to everyone who can play this game and makes it look like the cutscenes.

  • @brothermatatoe

    @brothermatatoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Just as Miyazaki intended.

  • @brownsugarkush
    @brownsugarkush Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised neither of them tried to rush the other with Carian slicer or Adula's moonblade. That's what I usually do when I'm fighting against another mage.

  • @PseudoNym13

    @PseudoNym13

    5 ай бұрын

    But you can parry slicer with carian retaliation on a shield

  • @gluttonyfang6674
    @gluttonyfang6674 Жыл бұрын

    This became an Overlord battle where two badasses are just firing spells at each other.

  • @Mystic-Misfit
    @Mystic-Misfit5 ай бұрын

    Seeing a full on sorcery duel is refreshing, a majority of the content I have seen on Elden Ring was bullgoat, or Lionel, and dual naginatas, or two lances. This was great!

  • @elsocavon295
    @elsocavon295 Жыл бұрын

    aint nobody used night spells that go thru black holes lol

  • @Stan3I3
    @Stan3I3 Жыл бұрын

    Battle of the introverts

  • @FF-ch9nr
    @FF-ch9nrАй бұрын

    “lightning bolt! lightning bolt!”

  • @IvanShvetsow

    @IvanShvetsow

    22 күн бұрын

    "Bazinga! Bazinga! Bazinga!"

  • @trashtalker8837

    @trashtalker8837

    18 күн бұрын

    ARCANE BLAST!

  • @samthepigman4069
    @samthepigman4069 Жыл бұрын

    I was just trying to do varré's quest and invaded someone, it was three people using the mimic veil and when I found them they all immediately spammed as many soceries possible, I didn't even have enough time to heal. Who knew I could find someone who out spammed gideon

  • @magicianman534

    @magicianman534

    Жыл бұрын

    I once had an epic mimic veil duel where me, the host, and his summons were all disguised as sewer trash in the pipes under the capital. It turned into a contest of who would notice who moving first. In the end, I spent 5 minutes lying in wait, watching a box and a dead rat slowly creeping towards my dead rat. Then, when they finally got close enough... I jumped them with RoB spam and killed them all like the punk I was :p

  • @bofa722

    @bofa722

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@magicianman534 Had me till you mentioned RoB 👎

  • @cursedimageseveryday5559

    @cursedimageseveryday5559

    Жыл бұрын

    Just get Mohgwyn spear and NIHIL!

  • @crackededge9351

    @crackededge9351

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bofa722 But it got nerfed 🤓

  • @macalvand

    @macalvand

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bofa722 Rivers got nerfed into the dirt, you don't have to feel bad about using it anymore

  • @irishman2770
    @irishman2770 Жыл бұрын

    This is about as exciting as it gets, folks. Sorcery at its finest.

  • @TheSeptet
    @TheSeptet5 ай бұрын

    This is how I feel fighting Melania solo as a sorcerer

  • @tepigninja7198
    @tepigninja7198 Жыл бұрын

    Now THIS is a true wizard battle!

  • @D00MTR33
    @D00MTR332 ай бұрын

    Stay back, i got a staff & plenty of baja blast No. You stay back, i also have a staff. Pew pew pew Pew pew pew

  • @femmemachete
    @femmemacheteАй бұрын

    The way you use Loretta's greatbow spell looks so mesmerizing with how they round around like that. Very fun!

  • @belliebun4529
    @belliebun4529 Жыл бұрын

    That’s not a duel, it’s a puzzle game.

  • @QsPracticalNonsense
    @QsPracticalNonsense5 ай бұрын

    These 2 sorcerers were the rejects from hogwarts

  • @ClockworkGearhead
    @ClockworkGearhead Жыл бұрын

    We both stared into the abyss... ...and when it looked back... BOY DID IT REALIZE IT WAS FREAKING OUTGUNNED

  • @Artrysa
    @Artrysa Жыл бұрын

    That is honestly so fucking cool. Looks very tricky to do well with though, especially if your opponent is a melee build.

  • @rubenlara4029

    @rubenlara4029

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah i get jump attacked so often its not even funny lol

  • @Dante_TuQridoKnoso

    @Dante_TuQridoKnoso

    5 ай бұрын

    MAGIG VS MAGIC = GOOD MAGIC VS MELEE = MELEE WINS

  • @smokingun710
    @smokingun710 Жыл бұрын

    Whip out your great sword and rush that magic nerd!

  • @nyarlathotep6090
    @nyarlathotep6090 Жыл бұрын

    If you are contemplating on magic, just use Carian spells.

  • @vennin7781

    @vennin7781

    Жыл бұрын

    Full melee sorcerer is my fav build; The Carian sword spells are actually unreasonably good.

  • @darkanayer5867

    @darkanayer5867

    Жыл бұрын

    AND the haima. Because thou unga, therefore thy bunga

  • @nutterbotter8308

    @nutterbotter8308

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vennin7781pair that shit with the dark moon great sword.

  • @vennin7781

    @vennin7781

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nutterbotter8308 nah, either dual wield the carian staves for the + 20% spell damage or use Lusat's staff main hand and offhand carian for ~ 35% more damage. you can 2-3 shot with slicer alone that way.

  • @timelordthemaster

    @timelordthemaster

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@vennin7781 why unreasonably? Absolutely reasonable. They cost FP, but regular weapon swings don't.

  • @michaelrobert6386
    @michaelrobert6386 Жыл бұрын

    A it’s such a good time when people use the spells they like instead of whatever spell is ranked best. It’s so much more fun fighting a guy using his own build, and not a carbon copy of one from a strategy guide.

  • @gabrielt9841

    @gabrielt9841

    5 ай бұрын

    you would like my main build then, it was a strenght/faith build with the bastard sword (my favorite weapons in dark souls 2 and 3), with the red lion flamme weapons art and some support spells (health regen, light orb spell,buff spells,...) with no headgear, yura armor, yura gauntlet and milician trouser to give a wanderer mercenary/witcher like style to the character. unfortunately, i stopped playing it and probably never come back,because i play game for fun and not for tryhard,so on the long term,I’ve got tired of getting crushed like a sh*t by bosses who were designed to be as overpowered and unfair as possible, and disgust by toxic invaders who always come harassed you whenever you want to coop with friends. and add to that i go through very hard thing in my personnal life since 1,5 years, so i think you can understand playing games like that who were designed to reminded you constantly you’re just an insect here to be beated to a pulp by almost everything isn’t a good idea when you suffer from depression and loneliness in real life.

  • @furancodensetsu2086

    @furancodensetsu2086

    5 ай бұрын

    @@gabrielt9841 No one asked for your sad life story

  • @adrianostrowski6431

    @adrianostrowski6431

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@furancodensetsu2086 No one asked for your disrespectful comment either

  • @jasonvrba4644
    @jasonvrba4644 Жыл бұрын

    All the old heads say magic is easy mode then they try and use it and make it look like rocket science 😂

  • @Hard_UncleRuckus
    @Hard_UncleRuckus3 ай бұрын

    Watching this made me not look at renallas toes anymore because I can’t stand the thought of magic

  • @DeeJayPancakes
    @DeeJayPancakes Жыл бұрын

    As someone who enjoys living viciously through big brained people in the soulslike community i see a plethora of builds, to say the least. Seeing this title, i as expecting much a montage of frantic spell casting and seeing who can one shot. I was not expecting this to be the first mage battle i see. Very strategic and great battle by both fighters. I may not know what's going on with the icons to the left and names of whatever but I'm here for the game play, YTber challenges and memes. I love that i found this video.

  • @UmbraDiSol
    @UmbraDiSol Жыл бұрын

    That's why carian blade spells are handy, you can really surprise opposing casters.

  • @branhub
    @branhub5 ай бұрын

    This was fun to watch! I’m a faith/arcane samurai build but have just started leveling my intelligence as well. Should be some good fun. (120 hours in my FIRST play through)

  • @explicita2558
    @explicita2558 Жыл бұрын

    Now this is a mage duel i respect

  • @captainlcm
    @captainlcm6 ай бұрын

    This might actually be the most realistic demonstration of a battle between two mages in all forms of media

  • @Moss_and_Such
    @Moss_and_Such Жыл бұрын

    Sorcerers will spam 2 tao spells at me and get mad when I spam bloodhound step.

  • @orxy5316

    @orxy5316

    Ай бұрын

    It got nerfed

  • @Moss_and_Such

    @Moss_and_Such

    Ай бұрын

    @@orxy5316 damn bro yeah I’d hope so it’s been awhile.

  • @ImWhyMortalsCry
    @ImWhyMortalsCryАй бұрын

    You level up int so you can use sorcery I level up int so I can cosplay a Death Rite Bird We are not the same

  • @greenhydra10
    @greenhydra10 Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, this would've ended much sooner if one of them ran at the other with a greatword.

  • @clankymocha

    @clankymocha

    Жыл бұрын

    This isn't dark souls anymore, sorcerers are by no means weak at close range.

  • @DBlaze_
    @DBlaze_ Жыл бұрын

    And then there's me. I haven't finished the game yet, but I've never used a spell, only claws. I love how much different two players can be

  • @josetomascamposrobledano4618
    @josetomascamposrobledano4618 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice… *pulls out Moonveil with FP ring*

  • @detim019
    @detim0193 ай бұрын

    it's almost as if there's more to this game then spamming lion's claw with the guts sword

  • @Randoverse
    @Randoverse5 ай бұрын

    Pro strategy is not to lock on actually all the time. Those hovering swords you can backstep towards someone and turn around to instant tag them as a surprise.

  • @nebulous9280
    @nebulous9280 Жыл бұрын

    Collapsing Stars is literally my favorite spell in the game. Glad to see it getting some use. It's even better when you use it with CRS's buffed Spinning Weapon Ash of War. Throw in some Carian Slicers and Piercers, and you've got a surprisingly powerful close range build.

  • @TOUGHEYES

    @TOUGHEYES

    Жыл бұрын

    I have not gotten good in PvP, but I've gone for a magic boost and free spell with the flask of Wondrous Physique, and in order to completely thrash a boss or many enemies, Meteorites of Astel can bé devastating.

  • @julioagiri3354
    @julioagiri33544 ай бұрын

    this feels like a mmorpg pvp match

  • @martijn769
    @martijn769 Жыл бұрын

    Alternate Title: who will run out of mana first?

  • @ruzanmuhammedasher3263
    @ruzanmuhammedasher3263 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the reasons why I like magic

  • @epicjn
    @epicjn Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I would recommend Thop's Barrier instead of Carian Retaliation if you're going to be using Carian Phalanx. Similar effect and doesn't override your phalanx.

  • @Crestfallen_Warrior

    @Crestfallen_Warrior

    Жыл бұрын

    Less FP cost as well, i think

  • @carlossalazar3325

    @carlossalazar3325

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d experimented with that spell because i think is unique and has an element of surprise and combo potential the only problem is you have to be a timing master to properly take advantage of it. Which i am not 😅

  • @bantatepon7015

    @bantatepon7015

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Crestfallen_Warrior Thop's barrier cost no FP on shields, but is strictly used for defense.

  • @rubenlara4029

    @rubenlara4029

    Жыл бұрын

    can even be used creatively to throw people off with some spells like glintblade

  • @desmond1164

    @desmond1164

    Жыл бұрын

    Thop's Barrier is too clunky to use if you have so many spells equipped. Carian Retaliation is always just going to be more reliable because it's an ash of war so you can press L2 and immediately cast it when you need it

  • @saintanic4865
    @saintanic4865 Жыл бұрын

    This was like watching a soccer match. You guys were trying real hard to do something but it was mostly a bunch of nothing happening.

  • @juanmartinlepiobruno1090

    @juanmartinlepiobruno1090

    Жыл бұрын

    How to spot the gringo:

  • @Forsen807

    @Forsen807

    Жыл бұрын

    @@juanmartinlepiobruno1090 you are acting like you aren’t in the minority in this situation

  • @jessegauthier6985

    @jessegauthier6985

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Forsen807 How to spot the dumbass American:

  • @Tea-n-such

    @Tea-n-such

    Жыл бұрын

    Ty

  • @gammadion

    @gammadion

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@juanmartinlepiobruno1090 Are Germans or French gringos ?

  • @Mocityspirit
    @Mocityspirit Жыл бұрын

    I mean the first 30 seconds were cool but then it was just who could spam slightly faster

  • @yez1062
    @yez1062 Жыл бұрын

    My man with the light rolls. Respect

  • @element1192
    @element1192 Жыл бұрын

    Surprised nobody was spamming stars of ruin lol

  • @BlaZay

    @BlaZay

    Жыл бұрын

    It's hardly worth the cost for PvP since the tracking was nerfed, it's only good at punishing long animations and even then other spells do it better for cheaper. If you want a poking spell, its lesser variant, Star Shower, is better for that now. SoR still shreds PvE tho, as enemies only dodge once on the initial cast.

  • @tapmcshoe6534

    @tapmcshoe6534

    Жыл бұрын

    stars of ruin got nerfed like months ago

  • @dakkadakka3889
    @dakkadakka3889 Жыл бұрын

    I can’t get mad at spell casters in pvp. It just makes it all the more rewarding to get close and bonk in melee.

  • @AndrewBrownK

    @AndrewBrownK

    Жыл бұрын

    Except you don’t, because light roll

  • @saddoombringer2149
    @saddoombringer2149 Жыл бұрын

    They couldn’t wait for the Harry Potter game

  • @Elkington7
    @Elkington7 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know how some people have fun playing like that.

  • @orxy5316

    @orxy5316

    Ай бұрын

    Because they are smart

  • @HarryPotter-uv8yp
    @HarryPotter-uv8yp Жыл бұрын

    Wizard Duels!

  • @josiahp.6960
    @josiahp.6960 Жыл бұрын

    This is what sorcery should feel like in a game.

  • @MrSmido1
    @MrSmido1 Жыл бұрын

    Night comet doesnt get sucked up by eternal darkness. You're welcome

  • @mantidream8179
    @mantidream8179 Жыл бұрын

    It makes me happy to see great oracular bubble getting use

  • @Battleguild
    @Battleguild Жыл бұрын

    Such a shame that FROM doesn't want to give casters a combat update. It's like, can we finally lose the useless R2 Bonk and have a cantrip spell tied to the catalyst instead. (Something similar to Farron Dart/Flashsword power wise but costs 0 FP to use.) The lack of access to the spell-like Ash of Wars was also a bit of a disappointment, as having access to something like 'Ice Spear' on a Staff would've been some nice eye candy to have.

  • @clankymocha

    @clankymocha

    Жыл бұрын

    Well we still have an expansion coming, fingers crossed for more staff ashes of war

  • @Battleguild

    @Battleguild

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clankymocha I personally have my doubts, as it appears to me that it was a top-down executive design choice to make catalysts fully dependent on being used to compliment a weapon. Which I think was the biggest reason for catalysts being stuck with only 3 options for AoW. While a pure caster build is viable, it's also a bit impractical, as doing so leaves a lot of dead space in your arsenal options compared to other builds. Bows/Crossbows are also stuck in the same rut as Pure Casters: Lack of AoW variety, no infusions, heavy talisman reliance, and resource limited attacks. It just irritates me, mostly because martial builds get new updates with nearly every new title, while Casters/Ranged Builds have practically remained the same since Demon's Souls.

  • @clankymocha

    @clankymocha

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Battleguild I agree that incantations and bows/crossbows seem to only exist to compliment a melee playstyle, bows and crossbows are bad at it too because of their scaling But I think sorcery has come a very long way in terms of being your main source of damage since ds1 for example, we now have a very wide selection of spammable projectiles, slow ones, fast ones, ones made for crowd control or have an AOE, some are chargeable spell, some are long range spells, others have short range, there are even spells meant for stealth and now we even have a good selection of melee spells Add to that the fact we also now have 3 different defensive spells to deal with incoming projectiles and we he have what I think is a pretty robust magic system in its own right that is very much worth expanding on. Though gravity based spells could be better at actually pulling enemies and such. Incantations have come a very long way too but they serve a very different purpose, there's a reason we don't really have a spammable bread and butter type spell for them, they clearly are meant for melee builds like pyromancies and miracles before them.

  • @Battleguild

    @Battleguild

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clankymocha I absolutely agree that ER has the best spells out of the Soulsborne games. The problem I have with casters is the fact that the L1 (while two-handed), L2, and R2 buttons for pure casters are effectively dead buttons. (With a single AoW as an exception.) Being completely limited to R1 and UP-D to function, or L1 if you are using two catalysts. Casters and Crossbows are also blocked off from Power Stance, so we also completely miss out in combat tech there as well.

  • @clankymocha

    @clankymocha

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Battleguild I think you are supposed to have something in your other hand to counteract this, you could use a small backup melee weapon, it doesn't have to be your main source of damage at all(after all, all sorcerer classes have always started with a dagger in their inventory) or, what I prefer is having a shield, scholar's shield lets you turn any small or medium shield to a 100% physical negation one and also have great magic defense But what I really use them for is carian retaliation, parrying spells feels so great, though I wish they'd buff it to deal respectable damage again, the nerf was a bit too much.

  • @Dracoboss98
    @Dracoboss98 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who mains a pure dex build in PvP, my favorite opponents are spam mages now that stars of ruin can be dodged. I feel the Naruto music playing in my brain as I dodge all the projectiles.

  • @dc1939
    @dc1939 Жыл бұрын

    That bow was so close was more like a sniff.

  • @kevgmei
    @kevgmei Жыл бұрын

    Man, I wish I was smart enough to do magic right! This is some of the most intense shit I've seen!

  • @natem355
    @natem355 Жыл бұрын

    cast a few magic glintblades and rush them down and ur pretty much guaranteed to get a bit of damage on them

  • @RanchDressingPop-Tarts

    @RanchDressingPop-Tarts

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah this kinda gameplay only works when the duelists have agreed to a certain conduct.. could have been over sooner if either of them decided to play more aggressively

  • @moreSMOREplease
    @moreSMOREplease Жыл бұрын

    People are complaining but I’ve been a powerstance strength build main for almost a decade and I think this is cool as fuck. This is what makes souls games so sick.

  • @panicatthedm873
    @panicatthedm8733 ай бұрын

    this is why i multiclass. both of these guys would expect their opponent to not pull out a cleanrot sword and charge them.

  • @vaanfluff
    @vaanfluff4 ай бұрын

    My gosh, if Enshrouded ever reaches this kind of magic craft...holy.

  • @OrkarIsberEstar
    @OrkarIsberEstar Жыл бұрын

    rannis dark moon - high damage high reach, homing in faster and faster, aoe explosion, frostbite plus debuff on resistances AND it absorbs enemy spells along the way.

  • @Hugo_Wallner
    @Hugo_Wallner Жыл бұрын

    Respectfull, I like it!

  • @dotterel4530
    @dotterel4530 Жыл бұрын

    >meanwhile, any average melee build rushes them down and obliterates them in seconds before they even get a chance to cast

  • @clankymocha

    @clankymocha

    Жыл бұрын

    Carian slicer, adula's moonblade and carian thrust exist.

  • @dotterel4530

    @dotterel4530

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clankymocha true but most people will poise through slicer, which is the only thing fast enough to compete with any melee weapon.

  • @Qarsony
    @Qarsony5 ай бұрын

    I've never thought about them often fighting one another

  • @RegisTraiter
    @RegisTraiter Жыл бұрын

    Melee users meanwhile: "I UNGA THEREFORE I BUNGA!"

  • @abt815

    @abt815

    Жыл бұрын

    Love that google offers to translate unga bunga.

  • @RegisTraiter

    @RegisTraiter

    Жыл бұрын

    @@abt815 Unga bunga transcends all things

  • @griffin1095
    @griffin1095 Жыл бұрын

    “Sorcerers play an entirely different game” A very ineffective and slow one according to this video lmao

  • @orxy5316

    @orxy5316

    Ай бұрын

    Grade A Copium

  • @Beggin4hagaN
    @Beggin4hagaN5 ай бұрын

    And then they run out of FP and start punching each other

  • @ImAxemGoner
    @ImAxemGoner Жыл бұрын

    As soon as your little wand moves, fight started, idc if you were setting up

  • @kanaria-cu3uv
    @kanaria-cu3uv5 ай бұрын

    I love how he's spamming all kinds of different spells, and the other guy is just: *BALLS YES*

  • @swinglow6580
    @swinglow6580 Жыл бұрын

    I love seeing mage vs mage fights but mage vs melee is usually extremely one-sided. Either the melee rushes the mage and destroys them or the caster just burns the melee down.

  • @kevineeveron2693
    @kevineeveron2693 Жыл бұрын

    This ia actually amazing to watch omg

  • @kr1j_042
    @kr1j_042 Жыл бұрын

    bros were playing chess with those appertures 😭

  • @Whitewolfretr
    @Whitewolfretr Жыл бұрын

    Now i remember why I've never made a magic build

  • @lonelyshpee7873
    @lonelyshpee7873 Жыл бұрын

    How did you get your hands on Touhou 19 early? It looks interesting, but I'm not sure if I like the direction the series is going. Seriously, the artstyle change and the switch to 3D are quite puzzling. I also don't recognize any of the characters!

  • @xClownpiece

    @xClownpiece

    Жыл бұрын

    the vs mode certainly is something

  • @johannesstandoft760
    @johannesstandoft760 Жыл бұрын

    such maidenless behavior

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