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00:55 The Beginning
12:03 A War Unseen
18:00 Miquella's Faithful
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  • @VaatiVidya
    @VaatiVidya23 күн бұрын

    I didn't really want to gush about this during the analysis but goddamn the art design for that gate scene is insanely striking. So surreal

  • @LestatdeLioncourt

    @LestatdeLioncourt

    23 күн бұрын

    we have that same feeling and cannot wait for it!!!!

  • @hiccup3.14

    @hiccup3.14

    23 күн бұрын

    Berserk but with better animation 🗿

  • @frudthegamer1012

    @frudthegamer1012

    23 күн бұрын

    Miyazaki's team always delivers on artistry For games Are art transcend

  • @zenithquasar9623

    @zenithquasar9623

    23 күн бұрын

    It looks just sooooo amazing!

  • @kneau

    @kneau

    23 күн бұрын

    A scandalous affair.

  • @leoceanman3044
    @leoceanman304423 күн бұрын

    Vaati: Finally, my 5.5 hr AC lore vid is out, maybe I can take a breather… From Soft on a Tuesday:

  • @vando-nd8ly

    @vando-nd8ly

    23 күн бұрын

    From soft so I heard you wanted to take a break,who the fuck said you can

  • @titanfromday1

    @titanfromday1

    23 күн бұрын

    To anyone reading this who hasn’t watched the AC6 video yet, PLEASE DO. It is by far one of the best videos Vaati and his team have ever produced. It isn’t nearly doing the numbers it deserves.

  • @Ssosmooth69

    @Ssosmooth69

    23 күн бұрын

    Miyazaki: Get the fuck up samurai, you’ve got some lore to analyze

  • @lukasr1166

    @lukasr1166

    23 күн бұрын

    I don't care about armored core and I'm not enough of a fanboy to care about it because fromsoft made it. No I will not play it. ​@@titanfromday1

  • @hare75

    @hare75

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@lukasr1166Bloodborne pfp makes your comment irrelevant

  • @unqualifiedprofessortanuki1757
    @unqualifiedprofessortanuki175722 күн бұрын

    The way marika stands in between the two columns of Bodies looks exactly like how id expect someone staring out from inside the erd tree would look

  • @user-lf5ev1hx1n

    @user-lf5ev1hx1n

    17 күн бұрын

    Damn son, you called it. Spot on.

  • @jeremyverbrugge5518

    @jeremyverbrugge5518

    14 күн бұрын

    I personally think its adult miquella and that when she died that she got rid of het curse

  • @sebastianb.3978

    @sebastianb.3978

    2 сағат бұрын

    ​@@jeremyverbrugge5518Miquella's a he brother.

  • @charliec.-lite1466
    @charliec.-lite146622 күн бұрын

    Is this the secret Marika wanted to hide? That it wasn't the crucible that birthed life, but life that birthed the crucible? Now I'm starting to consider that the Omen curse might be, in actuallity, the product of the collective lingering hatred of all those sacrificed to grow the Erdtree.

  • @bonymacaroni3293

    @bonymacaroni3293

    21 күн бұрын

    fascinating theory! i like this

  • @colorpg152

    @colorpg152

    20 күн бұрын

    this is how you people will find out she is the villain and the greater will was trying to help all along despite being cut off years ago by the nox

  • @markhelsing8841

    @markhelsing8841

    20 күн бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 👍🏻 your theory Is perfection

  • @FD3SA

    @FD3SA

    19 күн бұрын

    This is also quite literally the plot of berserk (Idea of Evil, don't google if you don't want deep berserk spoilers), which would check out as Miyazaki is a huge Miura fan.

  • @Dastardly_Duo

    @Dastardly_Duo

    15 күн бұрын

    I wouldn't say that. They are literally killing Omen in the trailers. So the Omen were there before, if this is the creation of the Erdtree (which I think it is)

  • @ProfessorLink64
    @ProfessorLink6423 күн бұрын

    Hiding something? Well we didn't see a poison swamp anywhere in there so that's certainly well hidden if nothing else.

  • @Rooferguy

    @Rooferguy

    23 күн бұрын

    Watch the first trailer there’s a swamp of some sort sadly 😔

  • @ryu_san_

    @ryu_san_

    23 күн бұрын

    Hiding some reskinned dog enemies I'm sure

  • @sorcierenoire8651

    @sorcierenoire8651

    23 күн бұрын

    Miyazaki with his neverending kindness has decided to put Deathblight swamp in the DLC😭 wallahi we’re cooked

  • @coreyjameshaims449

    @coreyjameshaims449

    23 күн бұрын

    Guys, It's obvious...we're going to get a "sleep" swamp.. hence the KO'd masked character. We'll pass out, get ganked & die Miyazaki design 101

  • @WhoThisMonkey

    @WhoThisMonkey

    23 күн бұрын

    Deathblight rune bears that can fly.

  • @LobosjrGaming
    @LobosjrGaming23 күн бұрын

    IT'S HERE

  • @spartacus778

    @spartacus778

    23 күн бұрын

    LET'S GO LOBOS IN THE HOOOOOOOUSE

  • @Markersify

    @Markersify

    23 күн бұрын

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • @POAN117

    @POAN117

    23 күн бұрын

    THATS WHAT IM SAYING

  • @XSAGA87

    @XSAGA87

    23 күн бұрын

    Finally!!!!

  • @M.A.R.S.

    @M.A.R.S.

    23 күн бұрын

    Lobos! Idk, Idc if you dont read replies, just wanna say you were may introduction to watching livestreams. I started with your Daughters of Ash mod for DS1! Love ya bro

  • @Nakna_ankaN
    @Nakna_ankaN20 күн бұрын

    The line “…an affair through which gold arose and so too was shadow born” indicates that before gold and shadow existed as contrasting concepts they were one. I believe that Marika acting on behalf of the greater will, sealed off shadow from gold and what we see in the trailer is her in the process of closing a gateway between the two realms. The tree we see in the land of shadow is split down the middle and golden sap seems to be oozing from in. I believe that one faction wants to open this gateway, while another is trying to keep it shut and that the tree that coils around the split tree and that most people thought was trying to consume the other tree is in fact trying to pry it open or perhaps more likely keep it shut. We know the game world as the lands between, perhaps because it exits between shadow and gold. There is some cut dialogue from the Godrick’s dying monologue: “There is only one tree, and only its branches. That bathe in true rays of gold. Not the fool Omen King. Nor the rank malformed twins.” The trees he’ referring to must be the Erdtree and Miquella’s haligtree, suggesting then that at some point in the production of the game there may have been a third, TRUE tree and perhaps the line of returning together to our home bathed in rays of gold isn’t referring to Leyndell, but to a realm of gold where this third tree is located. Messmer being a child of Marika or Radagon seems all but certain and I believe him to be the firstborn child of Marika and Radagon. First, because all the other unions resulted in three children, and just like Malenia and Miquella, his name starts with an M, but also because there are three different types of butterflies; the aeonian that relates to Malenia and the nascent that relates Miquella, the smoldering then relating to Messmer and his flame seems like too good of a fit not to be the case. If this is the case then it would stand to reason that he is also cursed in some way and one thing I took note of back when he was revealed is how different aspects of him is very similar to other characters. His spear is very similar to Mohgwyn’s sacred spear, he has what looks like several small dragon wings and a large snake that is either coiling around him or is part of him. Could it be that his curse is that he is influenced by several outer gods at once, that perhaps several has within him, joined forces to oppose the greater will or that he is able to wield their power, while not be under their influences? Part of the description of Mohgwyn’s sacred spear reads; “…it is an instrument of communion with an outer god who bestows power upon accursed blood” referring to The formless mother, the dragon wings could be a sign of the god to whom Placidusax served as Elden lord, the snake is the serpent god and his fire could potentially come from the fell god. I’ve had a theory for quite some time that Marika herself became an unwilling participant in the golden order. That the seduction mentioned in the trailer refer to how the greater will seduced Marika in order to serve its purpose and that the manifestation of Radagon, was a means for the greater will to take full control. This would then be why Marika once she understood that she had been used, tried to shatter the Elden ring only for Radagon to try to repair it. Another strong symbolism of this is how the statues of Marika and Radagon differ from each other. Marika has her arms stretched out in the same pose that she is shackled inside of the Erdtree as if she is forcibly taking that pose, while Radagon takes it willingly. If the pose is a symbol for the golden order and the greater will and their relationship to it, then it would be a strong symbol of them relating to it in very different ways. The goal of the greater will is after all perfect order, but how can that be if it isn’t in full control. I believe that the purpose for the greater will with the different unions of Marika and Radagon, first with Godfrey, then Rennala and finally between the two different aspects of the same entity, was to produce a new even stronger Empyrean through which it could act. Once Marika understood that the greater will had been using her and was trying to replace her, she may have been involved in or even orchestrated the plot to assassinate Godwyn, since if his soul died and the body of Ranni died, neither would be a suitable vassal for the greater will to bend to its will. Mohg and Morgott would not have been options either on account of them being omen. Rykard was also part of the plot and may have been unsuitable because of how he had already started to stray from the golden order in favor of the serpent god. Why Radahn was unsuitable is harder to answer, but he idolized Godfrey and showed no true loyalty towards the golden order. Malenia was unsuitable because of her affliction of scarlet rot, leaving only Miquella, who once he realized that the golden order couldn’t heal his sister and how his love and empathy was in conflict with the golden order’s treatment of omen and the misbegotten also abandoned the golden order and perhaps made himself an unsuitable host through his departure to the realm of shadows. This obviously just a lot of wild theories and there are plenty of gaps and unanswered questions that remain, but it’s fun to speculate. Thanks if you made it this far.

  • @rubythorns2349

    @rubythorns2349

    18 күн бұрын

    this deserves more likes

  • @kartikr5922

    @kartikr5922

    17 күн бұрын

    I ain’t reading all that

  • @Metallic666A

    @Metallic666A

    16 күн бұрын

    the same concept in dark souls... interesting.

  • @calechipconecrimes

    @calechipconecrimes

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@kartikr5922 tl;dr the greater will is a bitch

  • @Jaebird2

    @Jaebird2

    13 күн бұрын

    Just make a KZread video or something cuz nobody gonna read all that

  • @aldoleonardo220
    @aldoleonardo22022 күн бұрын

    17:40 "When the Ashes are two, a flame alighteth. Thou'rt Ash, and fire befits thee, of course..."

  • @granzon7396

    @granzon7396

    20 күн бұрын

    It feels like a last Firekeeper holding the last Firelink blade

  • @chrayez

    @chrayez

    19 күн бұрын

    I wonder if that female figure in the flames might be Melina 🤔

  • @xr3la
    @xr3la23 күн бұрын

    The red gate of bodies is shaped almost exactly the same as the gate through which you enter the Erdtree. In game, you don't directly physically enter the Erdtree, but teleport via a golden seal. Leyndell and Altus have the iconic golden sky and clouds as well. This to me looks like the first scene takes place inside the Erdtree, physically, before the gate was sealed. And Marika is lifting the rune arc as to show it to the world outside. Also, the Erdtree absorbs bodies in current timelime, so it would not be surprising if it originally sprouted, or was built from a mass of bodies. And Miquella watered the Haligtree, another sapling of Erdtree, with his own blood. It all connects quite well I think

  • @NihilistCrab

    @NihilistCrab

    23 күн бұрын

    If that's a key part of growing an Erdtree - is it possible that Mogh was somehow (likely unknowingly) feeding blood to the Haligtree? It's said that Miquella watered it with his blood since it was a sapling but to grow to the size it is surely more than just Miquella's would have been required.

  • @Temessong

    @Temessong

    23 күн бұрын

    @@NihilistCrab Or maybe Blood of an Empyrean is just a bit more potent than one would imagine, iirc the Haligtree existed in its current form already when Mohg came to kidnap Miquella, so I don't think Mohg played a part in that

  • @ishi...

    @ishi...

    23 күн бұрын

    I think it's shaped like one side of the hilt of the sacred relic sword, the other side looks like the shadow tree and the description mentions, sin, beginning, and stuff like that

  • @mydrillasanjay5397

    @mydrillasanjay5397

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@NihilistCrabI think the haligtree's massive growth is somthing to do with miquellas eternal youth thing he's got going on

  • @kamuymamushi5877

    @kamuymamushi5877

    23 күн бұрын

    So Erdtree Burial for fallen Heroes But actually a mass grave for the loser of the War Fertilizer for the golden age

  • @NarutoUzumaki-xp7nx
    @NarutoUzumaki-xp7nx23 күн бұрын

    Me watching the trailer - This makes little sense Vaati opening dialogue - Everything makes so much sense

  • @genzo_-sensei5719

    @genzo_-sensei5719

    23 күн бұрын

    Lmao

  • @thomasnguyen5197

    @thomasnguyen5197

    23 күн бұрын

    Me frfr

  • @LawfulBased

    @LawfulBased

    23 күн бұрын

    I love how the Vaati breakdown is part of every trailer that FromSoft brings out. 🙃😁

  • @luckskill6132

    @luckskill6132

    23 күн бұрын

    Haha yeah

  • @superguy183828

    @superguy183828

    23 күн бұрын

    Um actually, he's saying it probably *will* make so much sense after you play it, as in, it doesn't actually make much sense to him (relatively) yet, either.

  • @corpsehound
    @corpsehound21 күн бұрын

    A little pop etymology: Gloam is not a color. 'Gloam' is a verb meaning to darken toward night (and it's a noun, but we'll get to that in a bit). 'Gloaming' is a noun meaning twilight or dusk. So you could say something like, "Inside the portal shines a golden sky in opposition to the gloaming sky without." Consequently, in modern English, the Gloam-Eyed Queen should really be the Gloaming-Eyed Queen, but to make matters more complicated--'gloam' was once a noun meaning the same thing as 'gloaming'. But since the events with the Queen take place long ago, an archaic noun actually fits for her. Both 'gloam' and 'gloaming' trace back to Old English 'glōm', meaning twilight or dusk.

  • @MoonBratStudio

    @MoonBratStudio

    18 күн бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @monoremu3200

    @monoremu3200

    18 күн бұрын

    I'm smelling George's beard in this one Lol

  • @eolendes6432
    @eolendes643219 күн бұрын

    I wonder if the Messmer guy has something to do with the Snake in the Volcano mannor. The whole "Sin" being linked to snakes is a recurring theme there and the flame he commands does look a lot like the reddish volcanic flame that Mr Snake uses.

  • @optimalrefundable
    @optimalrefundable23 күн бұрын

    the imagery of St Trina as the music swells is so damn majestic.

  • @devinmarshall4287

    @devinmarshall4287

    23 күн бұрын

    Ohhhh, majestic, a hunter is a hunter… even in a dream.

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905

    @zaidlacksalastname4905

    23 күн бұрын

    Definitely

  • @linux4070

    @linux4070

    23 күн бұрын

    I need st Trina to glorp and slorp on my shit insane-o style til I pass out from a seizure

  • @callumhilliard2207
    @callumhilliard220723 күн бұрын

    I wonder if Miquella wasn’t kidnapped by Mohg, but instead planned it with Mohg for him to steal him away. If Miquella found out/figured out it required a lot of bodies or blood to create an Erdtree than who better to help him with it than the blood lord himself, and it would makes Mohg’s proclamation make more sense when he says “this is the beginning of our dynasty” when it actually was, because they’re working together.

  • @allimJ

    @allimJ

    23 күн бұрын

    I very much agree. I always wondered why the strongest person in the lands between, who never knew defeat, isn't going to get him, no, she specificially says, she awaits him. Like, she knows where he is, she sits chilled in her chair, sleeping, waiting. Not bothered by anything.

  • @theenderdestruction2362

    @theenderdestruction2362

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@allimJ until the tarnished of no renowns crazy ass came in and started wrecking house

  • @BababooeyGooey

    @BababooeyGooey

    23 күн бұрын

    @@allimJ I really hope From Soft pulls a fast one on us this time and allows us to spare the life of a boss, and we can actually reunite the siblings when we achieve Miquella's ending. Maybe even try to rekindle the plan to bring Godwyn back from the dead. Maybe Miyazaki finally learned how to make at least *some* happy endings lol.

  • @callumhilliard2207

    @callumhilliard2207

    23 күн бұрын

    @@theenderdestruction2362 😂 Yeah your absolutely right. This might have taken years of careful planning and sacrifice all undone by an amnesic hobo who killed Mohg simply because we could.

  • @wakingdragon7538

    @wakingdragon7538

    23 күн бұрын

    Except the Remembrance of the Blood Lord reads as such "Wishing to raise Miquella to full godhood, Mohg wished to become his consort, taking the role of monarch. **But no matter how much of his bloody bedchamber he tried to share, he received no response from the young Empyrean.**"

  • @DualWieldedEggrolls
    @DualWieldedEggrolls21 күн бұрын

    It took 7 days for the AC6 video to reach about 800K views. But it took only 2 days to reach 1M views on a trailer analysis. 😔

  • @VaatiVidya

    @VaatiVidya

    21 күн бұрын

    Yep. It was always going to be that way. But the AC video was still more than worth making

  • @evanraiff7154
    @evanraiff715422 күн бұрын

    Alternate theory: the affair mentioned and the corpse Marika pulls those runes from are the same man we see in the painting

  • @jacquesbossou5484
    @jacquesbossou548423 күн бұрын

    I've always found it strange how most people think that Miquella is inspired by Griffith from Berserk, while we literally have Marika in front of our eyes: using strong and loyal warriors, and mass sacrifices, to establish her order, based on a great tree. Miquella would rather use his own blood than people's lives to make his tree grow. I think Miquella is truly as kind as the characters in game say, and Marika is the one inspired by Griffith and his deceptions.

  • @comictitan4509

    @comictitan4509

    23 күн бұрын

    I had the same thought. Miquella seems to have bits and pieces of Griffith and Rickert especially but also Guts and Moonlight Boy sprinkled in, plus whatever unique aspects Miyazaki throws in, but Marika seems to be the chief Hawk of Light figure here, with Leyndell as her Falconia and the Erdtree as her World-Tree. Marika was the one who climbed a highway-mountain of corpses and sacrifices, covered in blood, to reach her own personal paradise where everyone worships her. Miquella wants to start an eclipse, he looks feminine despite being male, he has similar hair, everyone seems to love and adore him for no clear reason, but he also shares many story aspects with Rickert; Miquella, in his egg, was the one left behind, the one who did not share in the fate of the other demigods, and he lived in that "paradise" for a while before discovering the truth underneath it, the insane and dark things kept secret, and now he uses tools of his own making, at the cost of his own body, a body he no longer cares for, to presumably go against the kingdom? The comparisons aren't going to be 1:1 because Elden Ring is, after all, a completely different story than Berserk, but the similarities make it so fun to guess at their motives before experiencing the DLC ourselves.

  • @TheSpawnfan

    @TheSpawnfan

    23 күн бұрын

    Same, Marika fits the comparison with Griffith

  • @JohnBadger17

    @JohnBadger17

    23 күн бұрын

    I'd honestly be more interested to see a truly *good* character in a soulsborne game. It'd be such a change of pace compared to the usual selfish motivations that I think it's even more compelling.

  • @gavingibson9786

    @gavingibson9786

    23 күн бұрын

    for some reason marika being radagon reminds me of griffith as well

  • @ndroidryan7659

    @ndroidryan7659

    23 күн бұрын

    @@JohnBadger17well, Rya never had any evil intentions

  • @abysswalker7794
    @abysswalker779423 күн бұрын

    Something I have never see someone realized is that if Miquella left everything behind, even his fate then he left behind Malenia too, maybe that's why he left his blinding strength, that strength is his sword, that strength is Malenia, Blade of Miquella

  • @invaderzam

    @invaderzam

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah "blinding strength" was a weird thing to describe Miquella. He is many things but no one mentions his power or strength. And Malenia is partially blind due to the scarlet rot. But this leaves a scarier question. Malenia is incredibly loyal to Miquella. Why wouldn't he let Malenia in on his plans? Why would he leave her languishing, waiting for his return? Why would he... abandon her? EDIT: People, I didnt mean that Miquella isnt powerful. When Miquella is mentioned they mention his intelligence, faith, benevolence, the loyalty he inspires in people, efforts to save his sister, etc. His power as an empyrean is the last thing anyone remembers of him. There are no mentions of him ever using his vast power, probably because he has better tools at his disposal. So it is strange that the trailer explicitly mentions that, lest it be symbolic in someway.

  • @THE_MOONMAN

    @THE_MOONMAN

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@invaderzam imo cause he's largely seeking options on how to save her. That's a lot of his whole inspiration as an individual, is to master the fundamental laws of existence, in order to find a cure for her affliction. And judging by how the rest of this is set up so far, he found out about the shadow world. I would imagine either while he was in his cocoon trying to grow the haligtree, and like vatii said, perhaps he found out what the true cost of a tree such as the erdtree would be, given he has a deep understanding of the order of things this would make sense. Or alternatively perhaps he found out about the shadow world from mogh, mogh after all, does have many connections to the shadow world indirectly. He's one of Marika's children, he's an omen, perhaps the formless mother has some connection to the crucible/shadow world. I hope we get a lot of info on miquellas journey up to this point, cause he's so mysterious so far. Very excited to see what fromsoft has been cooking

  • @abysswalker7794

    @abysswalker7794

    23 күн бұрын

    @invaderzam Remember he made her the promise to come back, maybe when he found out the cure for her Scarlet Rot, ascending to God hood would have been his answer but if Malenia is already in game and we can kill her it means he already abandoned her, it reminds me a bit of like Artorias and Sif (Maybe we can get a extra cutscene or alt intro of Malenia is we kill/help Miquella before fighting her, just like Artorias and Sif, or Maliketh when you do his death root questline) In any case, of the lands between are disconnected from the land of shadow and the Knights you see In the trailer followed Miquella footsteps, why not Malenia? Who would be more qualified to help Miquella in his way in the land of shadow than the undefeated Malenia? It seems like he purposely left her behind, maybe he send her to beat Radan so the stars can move again and create a new fate for him and Malenia

  • @nordlux7270

    @nordlux7270

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@THE_MOONMAN Maybe he also didn't want to introduce Scarlet Rot to the Land of Shadow? I mean his whole thing is to purge the Outer Gods from Lands Between/that World, and it seems like in the Land of Shadow most have already been hunted down to the last stragglers by Messmer, so the only ones really left are Messmer/Golden Order(?) Allowing the Avatar of the Goddess of Rot to enter now would probably be a very bad idea, knowing how rapidly Rot can and will spread...

  • @greyworld6242

    @greyworld6242

    23 күн бұрын

    Hmm reminds me a bit of how Griffith views guts in berserk.

  • @p.r.9991
    @p.r.999122 күн бұрын

    10:25 I also first thought of that structure as something resembling the Erdtree but being something different with a similar purpose behind it. The "fleshy gate" also resembles the split in the Erdtree allowing for a look "inside".

  • @EldenThrone
    @EldenThrone10 күн бұрын

    Elden Ring isn't just a game, it's a universe waiting to be discovered. From the smallest details to the grandest battles, every moment is bound to be unforgettable.

  • @MonkeyDLuffy-fl3eb
    @MonkeyDLuffy-fl3eb23 күн бұрын

    I've been waiting for this. It's funny how so many were too, seeing the comments for the trailers. You've become a central part of the Soulsborne franchise

  • @eldrileka1652

    @eldrileka1652

    23 күн бұрын

    For real, when i saw the trailer drop i thought damn even vaati isnt safe from fromsofts schedule or random tuesdays

  • @Romapolitan

    @Romapolitan

    23 күн бұрын

    Become? There was a point where he was pretty much the only one that seemed to get recommended when you asked about an explanation of Soulsborne lore (eventhough there were many other capable people). I feel like Elden Ring really started to show us many new faces and made old ones more popular.

  • @KuzImAzn

    @KuzImAzn

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Romapolitan Absolutely! Shout out to Smoughtown. They did a trailer analysis as well that is definitely worth checking out for those who havent already

  • @MonkeyDLuffy-fl3eb

    @MonkeyDLuffy-fl3eb

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Romapolitan True, he was a pillar already. But recently he has improved his work significantly, especially with the Armoured Core vid. That and the fact Bandai Namco made him the presenter for one of the Elden Ring trailers

  • @Romapolitan

    @Romapolitan

    23 күн бұрын

    @@MonkeyDLuffy-fl3eb Oh yeah, I saw someone react to his Dark Souls 3 videos and with his Hawkwood video you see the turning point where his videos would take the more cinematic approach he is known for today.

  • @HATEDMADNES
    @HATEDMADNES23 күн бұрын

    It actually looks as though the dead lion dancers (in the wide shot) are actually 3 separate lion costumes with two operators per lion. Each cape has two spears holding them up, one body per spear.

  • @psevdhome

    @psevdhome

    23 күн бұрын

    Good catch. I like to imagine they aren't even two people but rather a hideous amalgam of multiple human torsoes and bodies like the revenants and the grafted scions. I think the scions are created in imitation of these original amalgamations.

  • @tylerharris4568

    @tylerharris4568

    23 күн бұрын

    It's stated that they are two omen in the lion costume you can see the feet which look like morgot's and omen we have already seen and the horns

  • @nemesisundead83

    @nemesisundead83

    23 күн бұрын

    First 3 phase boss fight maybe

  • @pollos1

    @pollos1

    23 күн бұрын

    @@nemesisundead83fias champions technically

  • @gunnarschlichting9886

    @gunnarschlichting9886

    23 күн бұрын

    Lion Dancer Duo boss fight confirmed?!?!

  • @ColdFire_Sword
    @ColdFire_Sword22 күн бұрын

    I see a lot of people assuming that the tree we see in the trailer is some sort of corrupted version of the erdtree, but I noticed while watching the story trailer that you can see the erdtree in the distant background, behind the shadowy tree.

  • @thefruitman746
    @thefruitman74617 күн бұрын

    1:47 pulls hair from what looks like... ...a corpse. Not my first thought 🙃

  • @jorgwei8590
    @jorgwei859023 күн бұрын

    I think you are spot on with Miquella's realization of how much blood you need to raise an Erdtree. There is this massacre around Vulkano manner, and you can loot sacrificial twigs from the heaps of corpses. This starts to look a lot like what is going on in the realm of shadow. The fire, the mount of corpses feeding twigs, the serpent. I think the Great Serpent is very likely from the Land of Shadows, maybe in allegiance with Mesmer, maybe it's its own agent.

  • @yoyothefool5607

    @yoyothefool5607

    23 күн бұрын

    You think Rykard might have had suspicions about Mesmer? He seems to be a successor to him but disloyal to the golden order. (Even though Mesmer is literally a walking symbol of Blasphemy, I'm pretty sure he's still loyal. Just Marika doesn't want to acknowledge or remember him.)

  • @TheCollapse410

    @TheCollapse410

    23 күн бұрын

    yea its also like the end of caves or dungeons where after beating the boss u see roots with corpses piled on them and notes that say try finger but hole by one of the corpses..... every time!!! BUT, why is it everyone's always dead? the beginning of elden ring shows all the main npc's dead and now they show the dragon dancer dead? is the land between a purgatory or a Valhalla where only warriors go and thats why theres no kids or abundance of women???? is that why its in between???

  • @PatPeez

    @PatPeez

    23 күн бұрын

    would also explain why Marika suddenly wanted Erdtree burials, and if Vaati's theory that the crucible is literally just formed from corpses it would also explain why Erdtree burials were reserved for great warriors. It would also explain why the Jar Warriors seek bodies, especially strong ones, aside from the fact that its their task.

  • @Xolcm

    @Xolcm

    23 күн бұрын

    Miquella was using his own blood to grow the Haligtree, so maybe he would have failed even if Mohg didn't abduct him.

  • @Peptuck

    @Peptuck

    22 күн бұрын

    This would definitely explain why Morgott spent the majority of Leyndell's military might trying to destroy the Volcano Manor, if the Serpent was an agent of Messmer and the antithesis of the Golden Order and the Erdtree.

  • @JSKWilson
    @JSKWilson23 күн бұрын

    21:07 I think we've actually already seen five of these NPCs, not four! You didn't mention the martial artist with the black coat and flat hat who was seen in the previous trailer battling a knight... provided that was indeed this NPC and not a player wearing their clothes...

  • @heavyburnman47

    @heavyburnman47

    23 күн бұрын

    We've seen 6 actually. The cloaked one 2nd from the right is who was standing in Mohg's bossroom at the start of the gameplay trailer. The hem of the cloak and the boots doesn't match Melina's whatsoever (Melina's cloak is a featureless wool cloak, and her boots are the Traveler's set boots) and we have to realize that for many players going into the dlc: Melina is a pile of ashes.

  • @avtandiliphkhakadze9440

    @avtandiliphkhakadze9440

    23 күн бұрын

    Shit, good finds gents.

  • @randomzeroname4274

    @randomzeroname4274

    23 күн бұрын

    Also in the newest promotional image from fromsoftware we actually see the main knight with the helmet off and thier blade

  • @Spookdookin

    @Spookdookin

    23 күн бұрын

    Yes! I’ve dubbed him black belt Gotthard. I can’t wait for whatever that weapon is.

  • @mackrankin9073
    @mackrankin907322 күн бұрын

    It may have just been me, but when it shows the scene with the corpses on spears and fire behind, I hear a LOT of notes and vocals from what sounds like Abyss Watchers

  • @Godspeed45
    @Godspeed4522 күн бұрын

    I think the beginning of the trailer is an offering that Marika is making to the greater will and the entrance she's holding it up in is the primordial crucible. The entrance she's at looks like the entrance we go into with the erdtree and she may have basically supplanted the crucible into what we now know as the erdtree. Basically I think the crucible was used as an incubator/shell for the the erdtree grew from.

  • @arnokhachatourian8928
    @arnokhachatourian892823 күн бұрын

    That scene looks like Marika sealing off the Land of Shadow from the Lands Between like a fkin oblivion gate. Possibly with some sort of Griffith-esque sacrifice

  • @Dinoenthusiastguy
    @Dinoenthusiastguy23 күн бұрын

    Fastest objects in the universe: 3) Photon 2) Tachyon 1) Vaati analyzing a new From trailer

  • @eetfuk3571

    @eetfuk3571

    22 күн бұрын

    lad spotted a site of grace that is about a size of a grain of rice LMFAO.

  • @obi-wankenobi5411

    @obi-wankenobi5411

    20 күн бұрын

    Tachyon doesn't exist. It's a hypothesis.

  • @eetfuk3571

    @eetfuk3571

    20 күн бұрын

    @@obi-wankenobi5411 hello there.

  • @ShadmehR_23

    @ShadmehR_23

    18 күн бұрын

    No.. Number 1 is Ubisoft making Bvllshit games😅

  • @TheTroupeMasterGrimm
    @TheTroupeMasterGrimm21 күн бұрын

    I’m not sure if it’s important, but the wall of bodies that queen Marika stands between is oddly similar to the designs found on Praetor Rykard. Not just the sword but the arms and bodies coming out of the snake portion of Rykard as well.

  • @crimsonsoul1151
    @crimsonsoul115120 күн бұрын

    So I was doing some recap of the elden ring lore with some of my friends and we notice something interesting. (Not DLC related) All of what can be considered the “Cursed children of Marika” seem to follow the naming scheme of their mother Marika, while the otherwise “healthy” children seemed to follow the naming conventions of her consort at the time. And I was beginning to speculate on whether or not that may have any wider lore implications. I find it more interesting in that the first two (Morgott and Mohg) seem to mirror the first issue with Marika’s ideal for the eternal golden order. That being the idea of a “before” with the twins bearing aspects of the crucible. Where the last set of twins (Malenia and Miquella) appear to foreshadow the end of her “eternal” age with Malenia symbolizing the Rot that was beginning to settle into Marika’s golden order, as it had to be changed from her original vision with every new ideology incorporated within; where miquella foreshadows the beginning of a new age which has been halted in progression by Marika’s eternal golden order.

  • @chrayez

    @chrayez

    19 күн бұрын

    All of the cursed children of Radagon/Marika have come in pairs. Before the DLC there was speculation that Melina was a secret triplet with Miquella and Malenia, but what if she and Messmer are twins? The flame, and the kindling it burns.

  • @TonyValdezCeballos

    @TonyValdezCeballos

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@chrayezI believe Melina and Messmer could actually be the Gloam eyed Queen's children who was seduced by Marika.

  • @campbellmaggs4384
    @campbellmaggs438423 күн бұрын

    Wild how much the shot of falling St Trina looks like the nascent butterfly ey

  • @jajatodo2072

    @jajatodo2072

    23 күн бұрын

    Becouse you can create sleep pots and etc using those so it makes sence

  • @SobeCrunkMonster

    @SobeCrunkMonster

    23 күн бұрын

    @jajatodo2072 shut it little kid

  • @campbellmaggs4384

    @campbellmaggs4384

    23 күн бұрын

    @jajatodo2072 yeah duuuude!!

  • @MeraHarch

    @MeraHarch

    23 күн бұрын

    I'm wondering why Vaati and people in the comments refer to this character as St Trina like we know it's him ? Is there visual representations of st Trina in the game ? Beside knowing that St Trina is likely Miquella, why would this character would be St Trina specifically? Besides from looking like a nascent butterfly, which is associated to both Miquella and St Trina.

  • @yellowsaurus4895

    @yellowsaurus4895

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@MeraHarch the torch shown at 21:30. Ordinarily I'd also be skeptical of a theory with so little evidence but in this case i think it's almost certain

  • @_ONGBAL
    @_ONGBAL23 күн бұрын

    FINALLY!

  • @XSAGA87

    @XSAGA87

    23 күн бұрын

    Man, I've been waiting too Ongbal, great to see you here SoulsLord

  • @fermyonds

    @fermyonds

    23 күн бұрын

    The legend!

  • @Dyrock666

    @Dyrock666

    23 күн бұрын

    Of all people…

  • @Cometkreatura

    @Cometkreatura

    23 күн бұрын

    the man himself

  • @Outofrealman

    @Outofrealman

    23 күн бұрын

    We already what you will do

  • @ShockBotz
    @ShockBotz6 күн бұрын

    Awesome video, really helps set the tone coming up and So excited for the DLC. Don't comment often, but something I noticed getting geared for the DLC; Standing before the entrance to the Roundtable Hold in Lyndel, there are two statues holding spears with vines clutching and growing around them almost like serpents. The spear itself is similar to what I can see of Mesmer's. Nothing really to link anything but something I found interesting that I stumbled across.

  • @ubermenschen01
    @ubermenschen01Сағат бұрын

    Marika's outstretched arms and exaggerated posing while holding up the golden strands also forms her symbol literally with her body. Would love a print of the art, honestly, it's grotesquely beautiful and evocative.

  • @FractalParadox
    @FractalParadox23 күн бұрын

    20:23 Instead of sites of grace, I think its very likely that those Miquella "checkpoints" are the source of the "new way of powering up" Miazaki talks about on the interviews. Everyone seems to assume you would get those power ups by defeating bosses, but I think these make a bit more sense. Like there's one upgrade checkpoint at each major dungeon, behind a boss fight, similar to how great runes and divine towers work.

  • @TheRadioknight

    @TheRadioknight

    23 күн бұрын

    Or they are Key pieces like the Great Runes and we need a certain Amount to progress

  • @MrCole62195
    @MrCole6219523 күн бұрын

    That first part is some insanely heavy handed imagery for the birth of a new age

  • @lucasscott8038
    @lucasscott803822 күн бұрын

    When marika offers the runes, that sunset is the same one in the Elden beast arena

  • @BesteKarabyk
    @BesteKarabyk21 күн бұрын

    I really loved the video, don’t get me wrong when i say this; while i was watching and trying to keep up with the details you lay out nicely, couldn’t keep my eyes open!! And then i slept so soundly thanks to your beautiful voice. Sleepiness came over me so sweetly that i couldn’t stay awake :)) you have a very soothing and mesmerizing voice 🩵

  • @cosigmatic6281
    @cosigmatic628123 күн бұрын

    Something I’ve noticed about the gate scene, is that the shape of it is near identical to the erdtree - particularly the odd section of the Erdtree that’s inexplicably a different colour. It’s always seemed weird to me that most of the Erdtree is gold and glowing, but there’s a random brown bit, that for whatever reason doesn’t burn like the rest of it does.

  • @rueben225

    @rueben225

    21 күн бұрын

    I've always thought that the current Erdtree wasn't really any kind of a tree at all, but an illusion or installation (religion and corrupt authority does this all the time) overtop of something like a gateway or portal, or a hub to other worlds that makes the Lands Between literally the lands between other lands. If I were telling the story, the power that was granted to Marika would have come with the cost of sealing the other lands off by putting a giant, power-sucking parasite tree overtop of that portal, and installing the Greater Will as the governing power while they feed on the golden sap of the tree. "You get power, we get control. Don't worry, we're nice, just do what you are told." Anyway, I'm off topic.

  • @johant73
    @johant7323 күн бұрын

    hearing your theory, i think marika tricked gloam eyed queen via radagon, then repeat the same with renalla. Messmer would be the child of that relationship. another wild guess is land of shadow were actually the "real world" and the deathless world is the world created via elden ring, messmer's war and tyranny was actually moving (plus resetting) all the souls into lands between, basically bringing everyone to live eternally in the "afterlife".

  • @NickYarmey-uj3gd

    @NickYarmey-uj3gd

    23 күн бұрын

    What if there’s a land of light (life) the same way there’s a land of shadow (death), and the lands between are literally between the two. And normally souls go from life to death, but Marika found a way to stop the dead from progressing all the way to death. Perhaps she made the lands between a limbo you never get to leave. This doesn’t totally make sense, but symbolically Limbo is literally a “land between” life and death.

  • @aaronbarkley539

    @aaronbarkley539

    23 күн бұрын

    I'm not trusting miquella, I believe that he will try to perhaps sacrifice us to create his own world where he makes it better than marikas

  • @yellowsaurus4895

    @yellowsaurus4895

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@NickYarmey-uj3gd just read another comment suggesting the lands between exist as an interstice between the shadow realm and the land "bathed in rays of gold" that godrick refers to when he dies. It's definitely a possibility

  • @thehmongtroll
    @thehmongtroll22 күн бұрын

    WOOHOOOO!!!! I love your videos Vaati! It makes me feel and understand the story on a deeper level

  • @granzon7396
    @granzon739620 күн бұрын

    The Pre Erdtree veil is so mesmerizing, Also that blade 6:56 it reminds me of the Orphan's blade in Bloodborne, so much BB references.

  • @elementoflight6834
    @elementoflight683423 күн бұрын

    something that wanst mentioned: The roman looking soldiers of Messmers Army have a lot in common to Ds Twinned Armor, the helmet especially has the same kind of bronze faceplate and trimming.

  • @yoyothefool5607

    @yoyothefool5607

    23 күн бұрын

    Exactly, which reminds me how blind the D twins seem to be with the Golden Order.

  • @enmaranadomusnavacrunatus3788

    @enmaranadomusnavacrunatus3788

    22 күн бұрын

    also i don't want to get ahead of myself but if you look at d's helmet next to the mask of the womb omen thing that got revealed the other day.....?

  • @ziomah8648

    @ziomah8648

    22 күн бұрын

    I have been playing with this set lately, and while it may be a bit hard to spot due to wear, I think you can see snakes around the symbol in the cape.

  • @brettmmontague

    @brettmmontague

    22 күн бұрын

    Why is this exact comment pasted over and over again

  • @mitios333
    @mitios33318 күн бұрын

    hey @VaatiVidya amazing video! 16:20 this part got me thinking… doesnt the impaling here remind you of the scene at the Giants Mountaintop, with all those giants impaled? Could Mesmer have been the perpetrator all along?

  • @cymikgaming1266
    @cymikgaming126622 күн бұрын

    11:06 the red tinge in the gold could also link back to Marika/Radagon with gold being intertwined with red.

  • @Maleniabom
    @Maleniabom23 күн бұрын

    Note, when you hear a crash, wind blow, and Elden beasts ost play, I’ve heard someone say that it must literally be when the Elden beast came down to appear to Marika

  • @rueben225

    @rueben225

    21 күн бұрын

    This would be excellent storytelling of the corrupt religion that is the Elden Ring/Elden Beast/Greater Will. Get the inhabitants of this world to fracture their reality and social structure through ages of conflict and deceit, Marika uses a Rune Arc (or a few?) to gain power, this allows the Elden Beast to come crashing down. She thinks she's getting godlike power (well, she does), but all she did was seal her fate as a puppet of the Greater Will.

  • @spaciest
    @spaciest23 күн бұрын

    Since Marika had her Radagon, maybe Miquella has his Trina. A separate half that exists to eventually make him whole, but unlike Marika he chooses to deny Trina and forge a different path?

  • @Velshin1986

    @Velshin1986

    23 күн бұрын

    And Trina might be Melina as well!

  • @mydrillasanjay5397

    @mydrillasanjay5397

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@Velshin1986or melina might be the gloam eyed queen's other half

  • @subject_of_ymir

    @subject_of_ymir

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@mydrillasanjay5397 Melina says " my purpose is given to me by my mother at the foot of the erdtree ".

  • @modernwarhero8447

    @modernwarhero8447

    23 күн бұрын

    He has a saint trina video

  • @Velshin1986

    @Velshin1986

    23 күн бұрын

    @@modernwarhero8447maybe saint Trina is also Melina and all of them are Miquella alter ego kinda like Marika and Radagon

  • @fearlessfinn5294
    @fearlessfinn529420 күн бұрын

    the person sitting in the flames, gives me parallels of vyke on the cover

  • @txotxo-zj9qe
    @txotxo-zj9qe22 күн бұрын

    Great video as always! This feminin figure we see at 1:15 must be the famously mysterious Gloam Eyed Queen, what you think? She is holding what looks like the Godslayer Great Sword. There is also the corpse from which the golden threads are taken at the beginning that looks covered in skin like the godskin apostles, and the mountain of corpses that seem to not have skin. Would also make sense to hear about her in the DLC if it is indeed based on the origins of Marika's powers

  • @rainy_7129
    @rainy_712923 күн бұрын

    That whole beginning scene is my favorite piece of art fromsoft has ever made.

  • @dice5709

    @dice5709

    23 күн бұрын

    yeah its out of this world

  • @theepicsealshow123

    @theepicsealshow123

    23 күн бұрын

    Marika feet in 4k 🤤 thank you Miyazaki

  • @etinarcadiaego7424

    @etinarcadiaego7424

    23 күн бұрын

    ​​​@@theepicsealshow123 someone said it before I had to!

  • @theepicsealshow123

    @theepicsealshow123

    23 күн бұрын

    @@etinarcadiaego7424 a fellow intellectual with taste I see

  • @Red_Eyed

    @Red_Eyed

    23 күн бұрын

    @@theepicsealshow123Feet confirmed. 10/10 expansion.

  • @eaGLeZFan97
    @eaGLeZFan9723 күн бұрын

    This trailer was incredibly evocative, especially the Marika and Messmer scenes. My hype for the DLC is now reaching critical levels.

  • @CeleriaRosencroix
    @CeleriaRosencroix22 күн бұрын

    10:36 Yes, I agree that that is likely a representation of the Crucible as the Erdtree is being grafted/formed into it.

  • @aidangalvin8655
    @aidangalvin865522 күн бұрын

    Was waiting for you making a almost 30 minute video on a 3 minute trailer love it here hahah

  • @bleedszn
    @bleedszn23 күн бұрын

    good looks shouting out Queelag, her vids are super in depth /helpful for anyone tryna get caught up on all the lore prior to DLC

  • @RisqueBisquetz

    @RisqueBisquetz

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@konrad1916ooohhh a new type

  • @ianprager4275
    @ianprager427523 күн бұрын

    What if Messmer is a child of the Gloam-Eyed Queen and Radagon - thus a child of Marika by proxy, who came to his mother’s (but not birth mother) side? I feel also like his flame, and the gateway of bodies, are connected to the “blasphemous” flame that Rykard sought to tap.

  • @MrFallenone

    @MrFallenone

    23 күн бұрын

    The fire is black before turning red as he summons it ...

  • @StoneMuncher

    @StoneMuncher

    23 күн бұрын

    YOOOOOO THATS SUCH A VALID THEORY

  • @actuallyidisagree6628

    @actuallyidisagree6628

    23 күн бұрын

    I thought the same, since the coloration and viscera of the gate seems very close to the tendrils on the Blasphemous Blade

  • @PoopTheNetwork

    @PoopTheNetwork

    23 күн бұрын

    The spears that messmer uses have the same kittle fleshy wigglies that rykards sword does also

  • @ballzinyourjaws168

    @ballzinyourjaws168

    22 күн бұрын

    I think the same thing Marika used radagon to seduce the GEQ and then had radagon betray her

  • @vincentebaez2574
    @vincentebaez257422 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the video, Brother Vaati. I am really enjoying all this Elden Ring lore. Yours was the one video I was truly waiting for when it comes to this DLC. And that "Band of the Hawk" reference was mint. 😎👍

  • @risqiayuswanto2357
    @risqiayuswanto235714 күн бұрын

    I love the veil-like sky that bound between the sky and the tree

  • @levistogsdill638
    @levistogsdill63823 күн бұрын

    What I found interesting was the difference between narrators in the trailers. In the first, they considered Miquella’s charm as ‘terrifying’ and seemingly manipulative, while in the story trailer, he is considered ‘kindly’ and having sacrificed all for his journey. I think it’s entirely possible that the second narrator has a skewed view of events, as they have supposedly become a vehement follower of Miquella and were thus seduced by his charm.

  • @Wawwior

    @Wawwior

    20 күн бұрын

    Or the other way around, first narrator believes in marika's grace, and therefor deems miquella a blasphemist.

  • @tonylawson2222

    @tonylawson2222

    19 күн бұрын

    Can they both be right? Can what is good for us and our world, be bad, terrifying even, for him in his? Or vis versa?

  • @Wawwior

    @Wawwior

    18 күн бұрын

    @@tonylawson2222 good thinking, also possible

  • @teekay851

    @teekay851

    18 күн бұрын

    Yeah my initial thoughts when watching the trailer was "I'm pretty sure Messmer has a different take on this..." It reads like a propaganda video: they are oh so bad and do such terrible things, they kill all these beings without you knowing, they do bad things to good people...but not US, we are oh so great and good and righteous, our quest is a noble one. Its really heavy handed, look at all the red aggressive colours and killing and "Messmer oh no Messmer bad bad bad"...and now look at us with our peaceful lake with a nice rune in it and all these peaceful colours, isnt this lovely?

  • @ShadmehR_23

    @ShadmehR_23

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@tonylawson2222no it cant be! cuz Its is right now.

  • @MatPlayingVidyaRPP
    @MatPlayingVidyaRPP23 күн бұрын

    "An affair from which gold arose... and so too was shadow born." I believe it refers to the erdtree itself arising as it grew, as well as it's shadow counterpart.

  • @emdeejay7432

    @emdeejay7432

    23 күн бұрын

    I think it refers to multiple things that arose from all this.

  • @MatPlayingVidyaRPP

    @MatPlayingVidyaRPP

    23 күн бұрын

    @@emdeejay7432 It could very well refer to both. Poetically and more literally. As the order that arose mirrors the tree itself. The tree leaves falling also being a sign that the age was fading.

  • @KeshinWings
    @KeshinWings13 күн бұрын

    There's actually two rune arc shapes in that scene between the corpse piles - look at the shape the skirts are making below.

  • @SuplexOnTheBridge
    @SuplexOnTheBridge18 күн бұрын

    @VaatiVidya I believe you correct and assuming that it's Radagon holding up the remnants of the olden ring in the opening shot because every time Momma M has some serious ass kicking to do it's Radagon. We even see this in the final fight.

  • @Alam220696
    @Alam22069623 күн бұрын

    Just noticed that while all the warriors at the end of the trailer are facing one way, there's one furthest at the back who is not and has his back to camera. Interesting...

  • @mrbkittle836

    @mrbkittle836

    22 күн бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing, it almost looked like Gideon the all knowing but I'm still not sure.

  • @yaboihere494

    @yaboihere494

    22 күн бұрын

    He's the edgy anime guy in the group that crosses his arms and grunts

  • @AkioJunichiro
    @AkioJunichiro23 күн бұрын

    My first thought at the start of the trailer with the mountain of bodies was ‘So that's how you make Erdtree’.

  • @Nunchchucks
    @Nunchchucks19 күн бұрын

    20:52 Band of the Hawk 😭

  • @rigiotapo3685

    @rigiotapo3685

    15 күн бұрын

    😭

  • @Finn-mh8rv

    @Finn-mh8rv

    4 күн бұрын

    Oh god Judeau, why!!! 😭

  • @anisoptera5832
    @anisoptera583220 күн бұрын

    The potential connection to the omen is fascinating. The omen in the lands between are known to sleep and dream of something nightmarish with a tormentor (the omen killers wear masks meant to inspire the same fear). Given Miquella’s connection to sleep and the land of shadow, I wonder if they are dreaming of some ancient history as exposed by Miquella. Could the tormenter be Mesmer? Could it be Miquella? The lore and narrative style of these games is so much fun, the possibilities are endless.

  • @Kvltklassik
    @Kvltklassik23 күн бұрын

    Personal theory: The imagery of Marika pulling out those golden threads has very clear references to lower regions of the human body. You'll note that Radagon's fractured body had the three rings of the elden ring in his chest. As you pointed out the upper arc is what Marika is crucified on. So where is the lower arc. Literally. Where on or about the body is the lower arc, given we know the rings are in the chest, and the upper arc is over the head. Following from that, where is Marika pulling these threads from, which represent AN arc, perhaps not the upper arc...

  • @Kvltklassik

    @Kvltklassik

    23 күн бұрын

    I get that it's not a huge observation, and a bit crass at that. But we literally never see the lower arc on Radagon or Marika, just the rings and upper arc. And now we have a trailer showing AN arc being removed from a lower part of a body. Seems like a clear direct reference to this being the lower arc, though I have no idea what that means for the lore.

  • @Justin9700

    @Justin9700

    23 күн бұрын

    It’s not crass. Bloodborne has tons of themes involving menstrual cycles and the like. One could even interpret the bloody gate at the beginning of this trailer as being vaginal.

  • @bannedmann4469

    @bannedmann4469

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Justin9700I remember figuring out what kind of Blood we were getting from the ladies… Real Insight +1 moment.

  • @ninakore

    @ninakore

    23 күн бұрын

    It clearly looks like a vagina - either literally or symbolically - I don't know why people are weird about it. Symbolically it's the moment Marika 'gave birth' and began her Order.

  • @tamar7065

    @tamar7065

    23 күн бұрын

    @@bannedmann4469 ...OH

  • @deadlycanadian05
    @deadlycanadian0523 күн бұрын

    When u said Marika wanted no songs sung about this place or the war it made me think of the old singing bat enemies, and I think I remember their translated lyrics saying something like "golden one whom were you so mad at?" And that made me think what if they're referring to mesmers war

  • @dippking4638

    @dippking4638

    22 күн бұрын

    That song is about the shattering.

  • @deadlycanadian05

    @deadlycanadian05

    22 күн бұрын

    @@dippking4638 ohhhhhh

  • @davidfletcher5361
    @davidfletcher536122 күн бұрын

    Mr Vaati sir, I'd like to point out as well that we have seen the npc in the far back as well, I think he is the guy from the previous trailer with Gael's crossbow. And the hat person near the front was the person kicking the knight in the previous trailer as well.

  • @monroerobbins7551
    @monroerobbins755119 күн бұрын

    3:18 plus the woman in the village seemed to be holding the godslayer sword, which is associated with the Gloam Eyed Queen. It may be that this war was partially against the Gloam Eyed Queen.

  • @piusdoe8984
    @piusdoe898423 күн бұрын

    Love when creators actually show other creators channel when mentioning them. Increases chances of people actually checking them out and provides spelling of their names. Nice one Vaati

  • @borisstamatov4877
    @borisstamatov487723 күн бұрын

    Given the hidden eye of Mesmer, I think it more likely that he and Melina are siblings, both children of the gloom-eyed queen, and their father is Marika/Radagon.

  • @yurifairy2969

    @yurifairy2969

    23 күн бұрын

    Could potentially hint that Marika and Radagon were less divided at that point, because Marika is the traitor and assumedly that means she was the one in the relationship with the Gloam Eyed Queen.

  • @alextreides

    @alextreides

    22 күн бұрын

    Yeah, I thought about Messmer being son of the gloam-eyed queen cause of the closed eye and the fact that his flames are both black and red, like a mix of giant's fire and godflame. He says "Mother" in the dialogue but I think he is referring to the gloam-eyed queen assassinated/betrayed by Marika. Maybe Messmer is just taking revenge for her death mother purging everything related to Marika and Miquella in that world.

  • @Valkyrie649

    @Valkyrie649

    22 күн бұрын

    That is the worst theory I’ve seen

  • @Valkyrie649

    @Valkyrie649

    22 күн бұрын

    Just cuz bro had a hidden eye that’s why u think that fr

  • @alextreides

    @alextreides

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Valkyrie649 imagine it's the correct one when the dlc comes out, that would be really funny.

  • @Arize20
    @Arize209 күн бұрын

    Dont know if this was mentioned anywhere, but the minor erdtrees are always surrounded by the jars. Except the ones in the mountaintops near the Haligtree. At first, I thought it was just the cold... seems there might be more to that

  • @metalreaper1382
    @metalreaper138222 күн бұрын

    Hey Vaati, currently rushing through the games again to get back into the swing for the DLC. Is there any chance of some long videos recapping basically everything to know of DS 1-3? Would be nice to have an up to date collection of the lore of the games

  • @AscendantStoic
    @AscendantStoic23 күн бұрын

    1-Melina was born at the the base of the erdtree! 2-She was burned and bodiless! (burned by whom, Messmer's flame!?) 3-She has a gloamy eye with a very clear indigo tint (gloam-eyed, also gloam means twilight sky which we see in this trailer) 4-She was given purpose by her "mother"! ("mother" here could be the gloam-eyed queen not Marika) 5-She wanted to restore destined death! My guess that all this time in the original game Melina was kinda in service of her mother the gloam-eyed queen goals (restore destined death and kill the gods), potentially she could be the daughter of Radagon and the Gloam-eyed Queen and she was helping us destroy Marika's regime also as revenge for what Marika did to her mother (the whole shape-shifting, affair and betrayal business she is known for, Ranni probably feels the same after what Marika did to her mother Rennala). Also the thing that Marika puts her bloodied hand into to pull the golden strings is most likely a Godskin Swaddling Cloth --> Sacred cloth of the Godskin Apostles, made from supple skin sewn together, the Gloam-Eyed Queen cradles newborn apostles swaddled in this cloth. Soon they will grow to become the death of the gods. You should thank Eugene the Author for figuring it was the Swaddling Cloth.

  • @patrickkinnear8625

    @patrickkinnear8625

    23 күн бұрын

    Pretty unhinged ngl

  • @AscendantStoic

    @AscendantStoic

    23 күн бұрын

    @@patrickkinnear8625 lols, you never know with Miyazaki XD

  • @lili-jin130

    @lili-jin130

    23 күн бұрын

    I agree with most of this, but one thing that confuses me is why Melina, if she is the daughter of the Gloam-Eyed Queen, can cite Marika's words.

  • @AscendantStoic

    @AscendantStoic

    23 күн бұрын

    @@lili-jin130 Because she is also the daughter of Marika (as Radagon) same way Renni is the daughter of Rennla and Marika/Radagon .. so she can understand her message as well.

  • @fdevaa

    @fdevaa

    23 күн бұрын

    Gloam Eyed Queen is likely Marika before she become a god. We do not know what purpose was given to Melina, but she wanted us to access the Erdtree, which would eventually lead us to essentially kill Marika. A task given purposely by Marika herself to the Tarnished. Hewg was enslaved by Marika to serve the Roundtable hold to forge a weapon capable of slaying a God, which is actually Marika herself :) Marika wanted the golden order to end, Radagon did not.

  • @PlatinumAltaria
    @PlatinumAltaria23 күн бұрын

    Miquella is abandoning his destiny in a similar way to Ranni: casting away her empyrean flesh and denying the will of the two fingers. St. Trina is that empyrean form, but unlike Ranni Miquella has two forms, two bodies, and so he doesn't need to do any black knife stuff. If you examine the endings of Elden Ring there's a lot of similar threads to Miquella's journey: the crucible, rejection of grace, trying to create a new, more perfect order, the omen curse, and the rune of death.

  • @AneirinRPG

    @AneirinRPG

    21 күн бұрын

    Maybe a wild idea everytime he is reborn he can be born as a boy or girl the girl becomes St trina while the boy grows to be miquella himself maybe st trina is another god of some form

  • @Poorcheeseboy

    @Poorcheeseboy

    21 күн бұрын

    All other empyreans are women. Only Miquella is the only exception. Like you said it could be that St. Trina is the part of him that makes him an empyrean. A rejection of his fate as an empyrean would be a rejection of her entirely.

  • @AneirinRPG

    @AneirinRPG

    20 күн бұрын

    @Poorcheeseboy at the time, yes, I haven't seen anything saying that they must have been women ranni was next in line to become the new queen. Hence, she stole the rune of death and masterminded the night of black knives

  • @tylerduncan5908
    @tylerduncan590822 күн бұрын

    About the game you talked about at the end, I really like the concept of using regular attacks to charge up special abilities. Reminds me of hollow knight's soul system, and I would love to see more games like it.

  • @F1shyBab1shy
    @F1shyBab1shy20 күн бұрын

    Another about the Gloam-Eyed queen, the throwing knives (in the trailer) have a little black flame particle effect after they hit the target, this may be useful info to have

  • @ApetureTestSubject
    @ApetureTestSubject23 күн бұрын

    My feeling is that maybe Mesmer is the first born, but that either he rebelled or whatever Marika wanted him to do got way out of hand. Marika might have run away because of what she set loose in Mesmer. Perhaps that’s why fire is blasphemous in The Golden Order, and why Volcano Manor use it. It’s blasphemous because Marika doesn’t want anything to do with Mesmer. Also, I feel there’s some connection between the corpse gate, Rykard, the immortal serpent, and Mesmer’s snake motif. Perhaps Rykard is worshipping Mesmer in his blasphemy? Maybe the immortal serpent comes from Mesmer? All just guesses but I feel there’s something there.

  • @paha4209

    @paha4209

    23 күн бұрын

    It would pretty much fit the story of Lucifer rebelling against GOD and therefore being thrown into Hell as it´s warden.

  • @pedroabreu005

    @pedroabreu005

    23 күн бұрын

    Rykard also kinda looks like the corpse gate. If that gate is the primordial crucible, could he be trying to make a "new" one? And if so, would that be the reason why he ia blasphemous? He is trying to usurp Marika after all, so it woukd make sense for him to have his own erdtree project

  • @legolass0148
    @legolass014823 күн бұрын

    0:28 "I hate it. I love it. Lets break it down." *Starts dancing*

  • @Uploaded1995
    @Uploaded199522 күн бұрын

    Marika standing in a dark realm surrounded by bloodied bodies whilst claiming godhood has such "God Hand and the Eclipse"-vibes from Berserk. There is also just no way that Melina and Messmer both only having one functioning eye is coincidence.

  • @t.kenneth5697
    @t.kenneth569722 күн бұрын

    Yooo, I got a Vaati ad on a Vaati video! Didn’t know your own ads!

  • @kneau
    @kneau23 күн бұрын

    8:55 I see the reddish tint, yet we are first shown this hair being dragged across blood-soaked ground.

  • @Kevvv890k

    @Kevvv890k

    23 күн бұрын

    ui this would make sense!

  • @Red_Boar

    @Red_Boar

    23 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @simonhogg5476

    @simonhogg5476

    23 күн бұрын

    The reddish tint i think is actually an artefact of the videography and its more like chromatic abberation.

  • @kevinfortsch

    @kevinfortsch

    23 күн бұрын

    Also the fact the foraems are rather manly instead of feminine slender forearms.

  • @titaniumteddybear
    @titaniumteddybear23 күн бұрын

    I think that the glass shard description is a reference to the Erdtree: looks shiny and impressive from a distance but is ultimately more trouble than it is worth.

  • @Promachean
    @Promachean22 күн бұрын

    yes! i love this Messmer theory. i've been thinking about it since the trailer dropped. it seems perfectly up Marika's alley to conceive a batshit crazy firstborn to help fight your wars.

  • @scarlletnull2811
    @scarlletnull281122 күн бұрын

    21:21 we also saw that guy in the fancy hat in the trailer too. He was using martial arts it seems.

  • @dice6751
    @dice675123 күн бұрын

    Could it be that the corpse she was reaching into was a fellow numen, and the reason why they are so rare now is because she killed all of them, used their runes, and their bodies to make the erd tree?

  • @DakkaSap

    @DakkaSap

    23 күн бұрын

    you might be on to something there, numen are known for golden hair

  • @MrFallenone

    @MrFallenone

    23 күн бұрын

    Except all the Black Knife assassins are Numen and you can start the game as one.

  • @blazingmonolith4323

    @blazingmonolith4323

    23 күн бұрын

    Erd tree Red tree Gotta be a connection!

  • @dice6751

    @dice6751

    22 күн бұрын

    @MrFallenone That's a good point that I didn't think of, maybe for the black knives, she kept them alive in order to use them, and for us, maybe we were outside of the land of shadow when it happened, or we escaped, who knows, but it's fun to speculate :)

  • @orpheus3477
    @orpheus347723 күн бұрын

    No matter what the DLC will truly be about, this right now is the Golden Age of Lore Hunting. The daily bombardment with high quality vids and theories is just incredible. Man, it's great to be in this community.

  • @centrifikal
    @centrifikal19 күн бұрын

    Thanks for all the lore videos. Also, thanks for turning me onto Enotria.

  • @thudnfer7151
    @thudnfer715123 күн бұрын

    In the group shot, I think we've seen the Big Hat Guy before as well since he looks very similar to the guy doing the spinning kicks in the gameplay trailer

  • @KABLAMMATS
    @KABLAMMATS23 күн бұрын

    "let's break it down" **Cuts to vaati breakdancing**

  • @DJWax27
    @DJWax2721 күн бұрын

    being such a music nerd I immediately noticed the Elden Beast music detail about the trailer. Happy to hear you mention that and discuss it as well.

  • @tsurokuro
    @tsurokuro22 күн бұрын

    the moment I saw a new story trailer was released, I'd been waiting with bated breath for the corresponding Vaati video

  • @deadshields8561
    @deadshields856123 күн бұрын

    I think it's quite likely that this will touch on the Gloam-Eyed Queen in some manner. This place is specifically noted as being where Marika began and that scene at the beginning is one of few times we've ever even seen her or Radagon, her own roots will play a major role alongside Miquella's own parts; their beginnings and Miquella's new ending. Something interesting I noticed is in Messmer's flames. Their colour matching that of Destined Death could infer that he was indeed acting on his mother's orders, being that she is the one that commands it in the end, but it could also show him fighting in the name of the Godskins instead. They wielded the power of death in its full strength before Marika took the Rune for herself. This flows well with how we know snakes are seen as traitors to Marika's order, if this son of hers did indeed betray her to aid her sworn enemy and rival. Additionally, and this is a bit of a stretch, but to me his 'Impaler' moniker seems like it could fit well with the Godskins, akin to setting up their corpses as a step before they are skinned.

  • @blizzardgaming7070

    @blizzardgaming7070

    23 күн бұрын

    I have a theory that Messmer's flame is the missing part of Blackflame, combine the two and you get destined death.

  • @srgnt_grimz4002

    @srgnt_grimz4002

    23 күн бұрын

    I think the mentioning of seduction and the possible dead gloam eyed queen as well as mesmir being a child of merika might hint that merika/radagon gave birth to mesmir with the gloam eyed queen. It would explain mesmir being able to wield flame something that the glooam eyes queen has mastery of this would imply 1 why flame is considered a sin because it is the power of the original faith that powered the world before the beginning 2 how one of merikas children would be able to use said sinful flame and 3 why he was abandoned and deemed as if he is a traitor. If this is true then this would be the betrayal of a spouse merika taking the throne of the gloam eyes queen after she seduced her until she was able to take the throne for their own

  • @blazingmonolith4323

    @blazingmonolith4323

    23 күн бұрын

    Also something has to tie to Melina here. Her having a Gloam colored right eye, could be important in the dlc. My theory is that Melina is a child of the Gloam eyed queen and she wants vengeance for Marikas betrayal or something.

  • @SemitoSolaris
    @SemitoSolaris23 күн бұрын

    About the Crucible Theory @ around 11 min mark, they started piling corpses in Castle Morne too, maybe because thats how they did things before? The way the Crucible Tree was created

  • @BackwardsPancake

    @BackwardsPancake

    23 күн бұрын

    The whole thing also just flows really well with this game's constant stream of "subverted hyperbole" (Absurd- or metaphorical-sounding descriptions and titles being completely literal). What, you thought the crucible was some immaterial well of life energy? Nah, we literally need to run every living thing through a blender, so get to work.

  • @WarMonger_the-One-and-Only

    @WarMonger_the-One-and-Only

    23 күн бұрын

    Marika planting the Erdtree: "Hey guys, welcome back! On today's episode of 'Will It Blend?' we will be turning an entire city-state into a giant tree!"

  • @jonp2771
    @jonp277119 күн бұрын

    Vaati, you missed something about the Erd tree roots. Other than the resin, there are literal bodies that are either absorbed or already apart of the roots of the Erd tree. Which makes it more sensical that the mountains of corpses we see forming the gateway are actually the forming the Erd tree.

  • @samgreen8582
    @samgreen858222 күн бұрын

    The red arm room at the beginning or pile o corpses room looks like the room you fight rykard in to me....

  • @Mibsey
    @Mibsey23 күн бұрын

    Hey Vaati! Long time fan here, I may have caught something that helps us reveal who the character Queen Marika loots at the beginning of the trailer is. Everyone is noting how its likely Godskin that covers the "corpse", and how you can see the stitching visible on the folds of the cloth (as you mention at 2:57 ). However, take a look at the painting of the old man (who becomes impaled through the skull with the branch/candlestick looking thing in the first trailer) and the woman next to him (you have this photo on screen at 6:40 ) from the first DLC trailer. If you look closely, the edges of the outermost shawl she is wearing has the same horizontal stitch lines that go over the side of the front of the cloth. She also appears to be wearing some kind of blonde hair/tassle thing in combination with her own darker hair, which could be part of what Queen Marika steals (if she "creates" Gold and Shadow by stealing the blonde "hair", then the dead woman only has black hair left, meaning Shadow). I don't know what this means (my headcanon is that the woman is the Gloam Eyed Queen), but I'm confident that the woman in the painting is a very important character in the lore, and I believe that its the same woman that Queen Marika loots in the beginning of the story trailer.

  • @RayZu-cx2xb

    @RayZu-cx2xb

    23 күн бұрын

    amazing attention to detail, cant wait to see what fromsoft is cooking up though

  • @breadwatcher3908

    @breadwatcher3908

    23 күн бұрын

    Oooo good eye. So maybe that chick was gestating some sort of rune and marika stole it? Some slight similarities to how Fia makes her mending rune after laying with Godwyn.

  • @caiobarbosa7680

    @caiobarbosa7680

    23 күн бұрын

    You're completly right my guy. It certainly is the body of the GEQ (I never noticed that she has black and yellow hair in the paiting) and given that she appears pregnant in the painting, she probably is Messmer's mother. That would explain why he embodies so many blasphemies from Marika's perspective, and why he is considered in equal foot to the other children of Marika. Then, unless the oldman is a completly new character we could theorize that he is the Dynast/John Elden Ring

  • @deiberquesadaramirez363

    @deiberquesadaramirez363

    23 күн бұрын

    @@caiobarbosa7680 Messmer's mother is Marika, Miyazaki said it already in an interview

  • @qwedqwe12

    @qwedqwe12

    23 күн бұрын

    I also think that is her back side sliced apart in her more grotesque godskin attire while she is being looted by marika

  • @ragna6410
    @ragna641023 күн бұрын

    I want that Golden Armor.

  • @dice5709

    @dice5709

    23 күн бұрын

    I fear the way on how to get it.

  • @HysticER

    @HysticER

    23 күн бұрын

    @@dice5709 real 😞

  • @hasanahmad4684

    @hasanahmad4684

    22 күн бұрын

    @@HysticER i have a theory you won't be able to attack him

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