I think they should lock at 1440p for frame rate mode, it is honestly a good trade

@jpesicka999

2 жыл бұрын

Fr. They got too cute with it trying to go with 1512p-2160p dynamic resolution

@mattiabeccari

2 жыл бұрын

I mean at this point I would take it...

@thraxberserker9960

2 жыл бұрын

Or just make their game run better lol

@ocd9033

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't give a flying fck if they put it on 1080p! Just give us at the very least a locked 60fps. Absolute joke we're still not getting 60fps on every game

@tatviel

2 жыл бұрын

0in

Absolutely in awe of this game but at the same time, it's pretty disappointing that FromSoft hasn't figured out their game performance yet

@fenixa2z936

2 жыл бұрын

FromSoftware is trash for not optimizing their games on console or PC. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ Also guess what, it’s gonna stay like that. 😂 Or, you could hold off on the game until PS5 Pro and XSX inevitable successor which I think I’m gonna do here. I want 4K 60fps dammit. 🤣 So bad…. Even on PC!

@taylorellis2009

2 жыл бұрын

Especially on an engine they’ve been using for a while

@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285

2 жыл бұрын

@@fenixa2z936 yeah so wiz kids in the community are just gonna patch it anyway. it happens EVERY GAME

@eljusticiero322

2 жыл бұрын

From don't fix their games. They wait for the next generation like they did with Sekiro

@Legendbill

2 жыл бұрын

its there engine, they have problem with proper framepacing since original demons souls, i think they need a compltete overhaul of engine when they start developing games exclusively for current gen.

Having the frame rate tank to 32 fps on xsx is crazy! There's never a time when there's so much going on at once to warrant dips below 60fps on both ps5 & xsx. Time to get another patch out.

@807D14M0ND5

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't hold your breath for that

@AlphaladZXA

2 жыл бұрын

@@floatinggoose9197 dude when over 80% of the games can hit and maintain 60fps idk about that. Fromsoft isn't known for great optimization

@kylerprince6890

2 жыл бұрын

@@807D14M0ND5 its definately coming but mainly because the Game is a Huge Success as its one of the Greatest games ever created, and im sure sales numbers are off the charts so based on that the devs are gonna absolutely work hard to patch up the performance issues ! If the game didnt sell well or wasnt highly reviewed then maybe the devs wouldnt put much more effort into it but as it stands they will for sure fix it cause they want that Gold Standard, and they already got it for everything except solid performance which will be much improved going forward as this is a Game of a Lifetime as the industry doesnt get games like this all the time as most games now days arent even complete

@iHaveTheDocuments

2 жыл бұрын

I get none on my series S

@807D14M0ND5

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylerprince6890 I hope you're right but really don't share your optimism. Fromsoft is NOT good with optimization.

Honestly, there is no excuse for Elden Ring's weak performance when games like Horizon Forbidden West look so much better and achieve better performance & locked frame-rates. Hoping they sort their tech issues with future patches.

@thomaspvh

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i really don't understand the apologists coming out for From here, there are better looking games that have higher framerates and less stutter.

@ChazMcClure

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaspvh yeah I think people are just happy for such a high-quality game without bs like microtransactions and missing features. It sucks that the frames are so bad but other than that this game is a masterpiece. (If you like souls games)

@TheMrNukeman

2 жыл бұрын

You would think with the game looking as PS4 as it does, that 4K 60fps would be a breeze. This is not acceptable optimization.

@vaguedreams

2 жыл бұрын

The dev is not some technical powerhouse and even the thing they are most known for (difficulty) was an accident and a result of poor controls. They make very challenging, imaginative games with a steep difficulty curve. They aren't known for for pushing hardware or amazing visuals/tech like Guerilla or Insomniac.

@malahay_31

2 жыл бұрын

HFW is a first party game optimized for ps5 and ps4 and elden ring is third party pls try to give examples from other third party games

Simple solution I feel; Drop FPS in quality mode to 30, so it's 4k/30, and drop resolution in performance mode to 1440p so it's 1440p/60, basically same as Demon's Souls PS5... but then, Fromsoft aren't know for optimisation, whereas Bluepoint seem to be pretty damn good at it, lol

@prismatica2389

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no need to push extra pixels at the expensive of an unstable FPS. 1440p mode would see a good increase.

@yambu007

2 жыл бұрын

That will be the logical solution but the thing is that at 30 FPS locked the game engine might suffer from frame pacing issues, much as bloodborne did.

@Chris-nt1ns

2 жыл бұрын

@@yambu007 exactly, and like they said... its better to have an uncapped 40-50 fps than a broken 30.

@d8l835

2 жыл бұрын

If you capped quality mode at 30 you could probably squeeze out a bit more in the visuals in most cases too

@johannessguten2527

2 жыл бұрын

@@d8l835 uh all of the settings except for 3 are already the max on pc there is nowhere else to go unless you mean higher than 4k

FromSoftware needs to start outsourcing the optimization part of their games production, because they’re just not good at it. Perhaps they could get help from Bluepoint, Insomniac, or some other studio that’s competent at that aspect of game development. There’s no reason why this game shouldn’t be running at a locked 60 fps on the PS5 & XSX.

@ovwarrior

2 жыл бұрын

They should ask the people who ported doom eternal and the Witcher 3 to the Switch... Panic button I think?

@johnnyboy815

2 жыл бұрын

Man Bluepoint really knocked it out of the park with Demons Souls for sure. Loved the original and the remake blew me away.

@TheFMCFG

2 жыл бұрын

Bluepoint and Fromsoftware would be the perfect couple 🥰

@MrVoland44

2 жыл бұрын

imagine bloodbourne 2 maded by bluepoint and fromsoftware...

@JustFun-ho6qy

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the Bluepoint folks have the luxury of being paid handsomely for spending years on what's basically art restoration. They don't have to spend one minute on coming up with concepts or systems or stories or anything really. From on the other hand has created four excellent and entirely new games with plenty of old school add-ons to boot plus a remaster of a last gen title game for one single console generation. I'll gladly accept some shortcomings if it means not having to wait half a decade for every bloody AAA game release.

Regarding the motion blur: FS usually store these values in their shader config spreadsheets, which are filed by locale. Same as for tonemap, color balance, etc.. for each 'area'. It's likely tuned based on location, from their tests. Doubt it's dynamic. All of their previous games have done it this way. You can also adjust the frame rate of the motion blur here (for example). Which is usually locked to 30, regardless of frame cap. You could maybe test by going up high and looking towards the sky, then swing big weapons. In another note: I really can't discern what exactly is so performance intensive about this release. There is nothing particularly extensive about the graphical features or fidelity. Seems like it might simply be FS's inexperience with open world streaming. Finally, excluding the performance issues & gameplay; pretty disappointed with the flat lighting/shadow and shader downgrade vs the network test. The lod pop-in is very aggressive and the distant tree/foliage look akin to BOTW's..

@BlueZirnitra

2 жыл бұрын

I think inexperience is the key word here. FS have always been an artistic and gameplay powerhouse but they never were the strongest in terms of tech. I think this release has revealed those rough edges more than ever. It might even be to do with Japanese game development culture. Western developers have been pushing game engine optimization since the early PC games, almost to a fault at times. I can only imagine what a souls game would be like if they had people from Id helping them out from the outset.

@holdDeez1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueZirnitra thats something we don't need. Fromsoft games are perfect the way they are. This ain't ubisoft son

@BlueZirnitra

2 жыл бұрын

@@holdDeez1993 I didn't say anything about Ubisoft. Evidently ER is not perfect, it falls short on performance. It's some serious kind of Stockholm syndrome to suggest it would be a bad thing if FS games looked and ran on a par with games like Doom Eternal. It doesn't have to tarnish the precious purity of the games. They're not defined by the jank, they're defined by the gameplay and design. Get rid of the jank and you have an even better game.

@Alex_Logan22

2 жыл бұрын

Sony needs to merge From Soft with Bluepoint.

@concinnus

2 жыл бұрын

In their latest video, "Elden Ring Back-Compat" they show that the blur is indeed dynamically adjusted.

Surprised there was no mention of HDR since they offer a setting for it and the brightness options are strange. Hope it gets talked about eventually

@valentinvas6454

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have the greatest HDR monitor with an Odyssey G7 but something was off. When HDR is turned on dark areas becomes 3 times darker compared to SDR which is not normal. Instead of seeing more detail in darker scenes I barely see anything. Halo Infinite, Forza Horizon 5 and Doom Eternal looked quite amazing in HDR mode even on this HDR 600 display.

@markyonline1

2 жыл бұрын

@@valentinvas6454 on which console?

@valentinvas6454

2 жыл бұрын

@@markyonline1 PC

@markyonline1

2 жыл бұрын

@@valentinvas6454 I had the same issue on Win 10. What resolved it is turning off HDR support in Win options and just leaving it on in the game. My TV recognized it as proper HDR signal after that.

@valentinvas6454

2 жыл бұрын

@@markyonline1 Huge thanks man. I tried it out today and it works fine now. It was immediately recognisable already in the menu.

You guys forgot about a really important thing that affects FPS in this game; time of the day. For example, during my playthrough, I felt more FPS drops during the midday compared to sunset or sunriseI see even though the footages you are comparing are at the same place, they do not seem to be at the same game time. At least not all of them. Edit: It would be awesome to see FPS differences as the in-game time cycle continues and see the differences.

@zorroknowsbetter

2 жыл бұрын

It's the God rays. The God rays in this game are ridiculously gorgeous but also super taxing on the consoles. Thankfully in most places where combat happens God rays aren't visible.

@dark-lord-vinay

2 жыл бұрын

Rain too I noticed

@berkaykurkcu

2 жыл бұрын

@@dark-lord-vinay yes you are right I should’ve said “environmental factors” instead of just saying “time difference”

@KraaaHKen

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClassicKrusty thanks for this info. I'm about 20 hours in on the PS5 version (got the disc unfortunately) and was thinking of starting over and buying the digital PS4 version. It's unbelievable that the save would not carry over.

@HCIbn

2 жыл бұрын

Defense Force in full swing for this game lol. Sheep!

I know as Rich said that the Series S isn't for the DF audience however I'm glad you guys did include it in your analysis, truly blessed...

@megazine

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is a mistake on their part. They should include series S for those who want to know the best settings and quality for their Series S.

@maddrone7814

2 жыл бұрын

It is really annoying how they practically spit at the series S. Sure it isn’t for the people who watch DF (because those people are the ones who just play cod and Fortnite and don’t know wtf 1080p even means) but it’s still the best deal in gaming bc it’s just $300

@JesusF7

2 жыл бұрын

They should just include it with the videos released for PS4, PS4 Pro, Xbox one X and Xbox One. There’s really no point because the Series S doesn’t feel current Gen at all

@MrFrexxia

2 жыл бұрын

@@maddrone7814 They don't "spit" on the Series S, but any extra platform requires time for testing. They've made the choice to focus on the series X and PS5 since they expect that those are the most popular among DFs audience.

@maddrone7814

2 жыл бұрын

@@JesusF7 how? It has the same cpu and GPU generation as the other consoles. It’s weaker bc it’s not pushing 4k which 4k is a performance hog

I would love to see an updated video with the 1.05 patch. Do you have any plans for doing that?

Would reducing the resolution to 1440p but still leaving a really high level of detail help with framerate issues? Doesn't LOD affect the overall impression of visuals more than resolution anyways?

They should just reduce the resolution of the performance mode to 1440p. Or use the settings of the PS4 pro version, but increase the grass intensity. I doesn't seem that difficult, this game should totally be able to run at a stable 60fps on a current gen console. And obviously on a PC.

@samza9622

2 жыл бұрын

Not gonna make a difference on pc with the best graphics card at 720p they still had stutters.

@fenixa2z936

2 жыл бұрын

My son has a powerhouse of a PC and this thing has screen tearing all over the place he is so mad 🤣🤣🤣

@NotCharAznable

2 жыл бұрын

It’s FromSoft. They have monkeys for coders.

@seanjohn7802

2 жыл бұрын

@@samza9622 Playing at 4k on PC(with a beefy rig) and no stutters. FPS is solid as well. My friend as well. Ir's not everyone on PC.

@duaneminett

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanjohn7802 it literally is *everyone* on PC. Every single GPU suffers from live shader compilation stutters in Elden Ring.

They really need to bring solid 60fps for ps5/series x versions.

@HCIbn

2 жыл бұрын

Can’t because that’s for PlayStation 5 Pro and Xbox Series X 2.0

@SharkytheSharkster

2 жыл бұрын

Until they patch up the performance you can use VRR compatible display for 60fps on xbox x

@kostasbousbouras2654

2 жыл бұрын

@@SharkytheSharkster if he has it...most people don't.

@Spider-Man-sl6mi

2 жыл бұрын

@@SharkytheSharkster not buying a new Tv for that. You got me all fucked up

@rayharvey1330

2 жыл бұрын

​@@HCIbn Dreamcast 2 will run the game in 4k at a steady 120fps...with ray tracing turned on.

Even considering From's technical messiness, it's truly baffling why quality mode wasn't capped at 30fps for smoothness.

It’s bizarre and an interresting choice that From went with sometimes having Motion Blur, sometimes not. The Margit boss definitely gets harder with the motion blur. I didn’t realize that when playing the network test but now that you mentioned it I see it. How about the Ps4 Pro ver? Does it have Motion Blur on everything 100%?

I honestly don’t understand how “quality mode” gets called that anymore.. 60 fps looks so much smoother it makes a higher resolution feel irrelevant

@ExpertAtAll

2 жыл бұрын

Because some people would rather games be 4k than be smoother it blows my mind

@thats4thebirds

2 жыл бұрын

@@ExpertAtAll same. No way are the pixels worth 30 extra fps lol

@jessepinkman6253

2 жыл бұрын

Quality mode should be 60fps. 4k60 should be the standard quality mode. 120fps for performance mode in games

@loitersquad93

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessepinkman6253 i guess they are saving those modes for the 10th gen consoles

@draculathevampire934

2 жыл бұрын

Because its more immersive try seeing how 4k looks in horizon forbidden west without moving a lot the world looks more real more detailed

As someone who plays on a 1080p tv, it's baffling to me that you can't just select a lower resolution to get a smoother framerate/increased draw distance, etc

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately they probably will never do that. It feels like a waste to me on series X when the game is in full native 4k when I only have a 1440p 32 inch monitor so I can't really see the extra resolution

@rickwijbenga5930

2 жыл бұрын

@@JudeTheKZreadPoopersubscribe yeah, to me the push for 4k 60fps in the current game market is super unnecessary, it could still be an option but I'd rather have something like 1440p 60fps with better visuals

@lujho

2 жыл бұрын

Really, that’s crazy! I don’t have a 4k console but I just assumed you’d be able to do that. But come to think of it, after watching several DF videos I’m realizing they never mention anything like that, unless it’s a performance mode that specifically is set to 1080p.

@sharean6495

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I would love to see as well: 1080p with locked 60 and increased draw distance. I'm not keeping my hopes up, though.

@bulutcagdas1071

2 жыл бұрын

It does add some native clarity via downsampling, sort of like a native anti aliasing if you will. But I agree, it's silly not being able to dictate your resolution.

Hey DF with PS5 I’ve noticed something interesting with the BETA firmware currently available on PS5, and the way it interacts with LG OLED CX TV.(and maybe other types of displays) Some features are greyed out on the TV due to the update as before they weren’t. I’d had to rollback the PS5 firmware just to fix this, but I’ve also checked to see what’s going on behind the reason for this but to no avail. Hopefully this is a hint at VRR coming soon to PS5. (Update) I just noticed something interesting. My tv says it’s outputting HDR but the games(Elden Ring) HDR is OFF. That’s weird because it doesn’t happen on the non-beta FMW.

You guys always do such a great job! thank you for all the effort placed in your reviews

Love you guys. You guys never fail to bring out amazing informative but still fun technical game reviews.

@megacurlerer

2 жыл бұрын

Love you too bro!

Those loading times are crazy! My PC loads take about (roughly) 5 seconds from a Samsung T5 SSD. There is no reason for the Xbox versions to be taking as long as they do!

@BlueZirnitra

2 жыл бұрын

It's still a big step up from previous console gens with 2 minute loads so I haven't noticed much, same as John.

@nlikeflynn8837

2 жыл бұрын

Same here! Been very impressed with loading times on PC! Been impressed all around actually outside of the minor stuttering.

@Sebbz

2 жыл бұрын

Quick resume on series x helps immensely though

@dom4591

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sebbz I use quick resume all the time in this game. It's such a useful feature in games like this.

@Sebbz

2 жыл бұрын

@@dom4591 sucks that online is disabled if you use quick resume though. You need to enter title screen before online is enabled unfortunately :(

Love the pure honesty in your reviews! Thanks for giving great insight!🔥

As someone who plays on the Quality settings of all this games on PS5 and doesn't care about 60 fps, it is still fascinating to me to watch these videos. I loved Ratchet and Clank with the best settings and lower fps, and now I'm loving Elden Ring also on quality mode, but it is incredible how noticeable slower Elden ring is than Ratchent and Clank, without even having the fancy lighting and reflections.

@bevanmcnicholl2525

Жыл бұрын

Japanese developers have always struggled to optimise games :(

@SuperD00D

9 ай бұрын

Its so weird to me when people don’t care about fps. Like I do notice a difference from 60-120, but 60 is acceptable but absolutely required. I will not play under 60, it’s unplayable. And an unstable frame rate is also unplayable. Its hust weird that like 20% of gamers are like you, and 80% are like me. Im trult surprised 100% aren’t like me with the FPS. I would take better graphics settings/resolution/ray tracing though for any game other than a first person shooter over 120 fps, but I do need that 60 period before we put any other bells and whistles. 60 is the number one priority

@emporioalnino4670

8 ай бұрын

​@@SuperD00Dyeah, frame rate is the absolute most important technical aspect of pretty much any game. I'm willing to halve my resolution if it gives me a smooth picture.

@S-420

7 ай бұрын

30 frames per second on PS5 is completely broken it's a juttery mess no matter what you're playing

It's really odd how on pc the graphics settings barely seem to make any difference in performance but there's a massive difference between the ps4 and ps5 version running on ps5. I can't imagine taking the ps4 version and just adding some grass and resolution destroys the framerate that much so something else must be going on that's messing up the performance in next gen/pc versions. Hope they can fix it.

@jisooarrambide5536

2 жыл бұрын

Its literally optimization.

@iDTecKt

2 жыл бұрын

Last gen ruing the experience like usual

@sebastianhernandez1228

2 жыл бұрын

@@iDTecKt from software's garbage coding team ruining the day again*

@spunkysamuel

2 жыл бұрын

@@iDTecKt That literally doesn't make sense in this scenario but ok

@iDTecKt

2 жыл бұрын

@@spunkysamuel If you cant understand why that has an impact then stop gaming, ok

17:26 Why is the Xbox Series X loading sooo slow? 🙁

The loadingtimes on PC are depending on the region where you are, or which you load. In Limegrave, the average time is 4-8 seconds. In other Regions some times are 15-20s. Is it the same on console?

It's a shame that the PS4 Version and the PS5 version aren't cross-save. You can only do a one way transfer from ps4>ps5 with your save. They should implement this to forgive the performance issues. 10 hours in I don't feel like starting over with PS4 version. I'll hope for the best.

@serqanx1

2 жыл бұрын

same. i am 20 hours in but i didnt know about ps4 version being 60fps locked on ps5. dont care about graphics i want stable 60.i hope they do this next patch.

@peite7878

2 жыл бұрын

It’s cross save PS4>PS5. That’s why you should start with the Ps4 Pro version and wait for further patches for PS5 ver. IMHO

@jpesicka999

2 жыл бұрын

@@peite7878 I already stated that. Doesn't help us who started on ps5. "You can only do a one way transfer from ps4>ps5" -me earlier today

@NecroMorrius

2 жыл бұрын

PS4 version is so much better. Ridiculously better.

@riefeio

2 жыл бұрын

@@NecroMorrius it sure is, i started over and i would say its the only way to play it, it don't even look that different just a tad softer, load times ain't that far off either

I wonder how it would feel to have the luxury of being able to choose which console or pc to play the game on to experience it at its best.

The million rune question however: Can the performance be improved? I certainly hope so. This game is already good enough for me to mostly forgive its technical issues, but I gotta admit that fixing them will elevate it to classic status. I can't stop playing it...

@bevanmcnicholl2525

2 жыл бұрын

YES! Dude the ps5 performance mode after the 3 patches is perfect now man

@solachesis451

2 жыл бұрын

@@bevanmcnicholl2525 it is? I returned my ps5 copy after watching this and got the PS4 version instead lol

@tastywheatus

2 жыл бұрын

@@solachesis451 I'm playing the PS5 version as I type this and it's definitely not fixed.

@bevanmcnicholl2525

2 жыл бұрын

@@solachesis451 You probably shouldn't have done that, they're patching this game loads more on release then they ever did on the souls games.

@solachesis451

2 жыл бұрын

@@bevanmcnicholl2525 it has a free ps5 upgrade, so it doesn't really make much difference, I can just transfer my save to the PS5 version when I want to

Awesome video! Going to start this game when I am done with my current Witcher 3 playthrough, hope they fixed this by now

I love your guys video. Very informative

23:18 "You get that sense of exploration back. Like when you find a cave here... there was no indication that it was there. There's no reason why it's there. And you'll find weird surprising things down there sometimes. You never know what to expect." That really intrigues me. I feel like a lot of past gen games had this sense of wonder where anything could be anywhere. A trap door or portal to a hidden area could be found in no particular place. And that with that you could really get immersed in those worlds.

Been playing ps4 version on ps5 and it's mostly been great. I never notice resolution or stuff like shadow quality in games and will trade them all day for 60 fps.

@nikohunt5187

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao 🤣

@aaronquarles3902

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, the ps4 on ps5 is the best and only way ill recommend to play this game if you have a ps5 and even the loading the game when saved onto the ps5 ssd is just as fast.

@A_Noid

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like the best (least terrible) option at the moment. Constant 60 fps is way more important, agreed.

@Petrixxxxxxx

2 жыл бұрын

Go to the video you're currently watching, turn res to 144p and then get back to me ;)

@themnades

2 жыл бұрын

@@Petrixxxxxxx 1440p != 144p

I only noticed drops in Limgrave and the second realm (with the magic academy). But its still fine though. I played Bloodborne with 25 FPS on release back then and it became my favourite game.

I have a LG C1 and I’m glad you mentioned the OLED displays, 120k 4k and VRR with game optimization. Great video guys. I’m waiting until the end before I buy it off Microsoft store.

What irritates me the most is look at Demons Souls Remake. That game from what I can tell, runs at 1440p 60fps and it’s genuinely at times, the best looking game I’ve seen. Idk why developers feel so inclined to do 4K. Like just do a 4K max settings mode and do a 1440p with high settings 60fps mode. It’s genuinely not that hard. It’s actually probably easier than trying to implement dynamic resolutions. Edit* I should have compared ER to Ghost of Tsushima. Clearly a beautiful open world game can run well if it is actually optimized and the developers aren’t afraid to tweak some settings and target below 4K (1800p is their target I believe for performance).

@ianflakke9983

2 жыл бұрын

I hear ya. But Demons Souls was solely made for PS5. Elden Ring has to play on last gen consoles. So they couldn't make it drastically different between old & new consoles without backlash. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.

@zodiark2456

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianflakke9983 you are also forgetting that remake demon souls was made by bluepoint games and japan studio and not fromsoftware

@polski8bit

2 жыл бұрын

And on top of that, you can't look at the Remake. All Bluepoint had to do, was to put a new coat of paint on an already released game, and exclusively for one platform too. It's way more difficult to design everything from scratch, including a freaking OPEN WORLD, than just creating new visuals. Demon's Souls Remake is stunning, no doubt about that. Bluepoint has done an incredible job. But you can't compare these games in the slightest based on visuals.

@iDTecKt

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah targeting that 4k is just silly

@terencecaron2922

2 жыл бұрын

Its also not an open world.

I originally started on PC with a high end machine. It definitely looks better but it definitely would have random fps dips. I picked it up for ps5 and overall it’s a lot smoother. I’ve noticed the occasional dip but it’s been rare for me. I’ve also noticed playing this on my ultra wide on ps5 the aspect ratio does not look super squished like DS3 does. DS3 would give my character that stumpy look. I very much hope they iron out the issues because after I finish everything on the console I want to go back and do a playthrough on the PC

What happens when you change the Xbox Series X video output settings from 4K down to 1440p or 1080p? Does that help to stabilize a locked 60fps?

Is there dynamic time of day or did they just completely change the color grading on the final version from the network test version? The side by side shots with the network test made it look like it had a more low contrast and desaturated color grade, which works better for the atmosphere of this game in my opinion.

@aaroncuckstain9845

2 жыл бұрын

It's dynamic so is weather

@sovereignsammy8528

2 жыл бұрын

There's a day and night cycle in Elden Ring

Playing on PS5 I'd say the frame rate is noticeably unstable, but it doesn't feel as bad as the data is saying. I would not have guessed under 40 fps. However the pop in is so bad! It's pretty distracting in the open world. But you guys had it right, the game is such a joy to play that these things can be somewhat overlooked!

@Scitch-et4vk

2 жыл бұрын

It only drops to like 56 from.60 lol no on notices this shit unless looking

@DaYoda191

2 жыл бұрын

@@Scitch-et4vk for the most part yes, there's a few times it drops bad but usually only when you're loading into a new area after fast traveling. I'm definitely not feeling like performance is costing me victories that's for sure

@ph0kused

2 жыл бұрын

I beat the game on PC running a 3080 and using basically high settings, then i mistakingly bought the disc version for ps5 so i dont get access to the ps4pro version. However coming from PC to PS5 the frame stuttering/drops is DEFINITELY more noticeable, at least for me. On pc it was only noticeable going to zones for the first time, but with ps5 it doesnt matter, its always dropping. It made me think my tv refresh rate was broken causing me to look at new TVs, after watching this i am relieved to know its not my tv, just shitty optimization.

@Bestgameplayer10

Жыл бұрын

If you don’t notice drops below 40 then either you’re fortunate enough for it to not effect you or you just don’t know what you’re looking for.

I wished Quality Mode would offer a locked 30, however I have to say after 30 hours on PS5 (Frame Rate Mode), I didn't mind the issues mentioned at all while playing. It is still better than Bloodborne at launch and it is not nearly as bad as the PC version is right now. Sure going back to DS3 with a locked 60 makes a noticeable difference, but in summary, it's fine...

@boira_dani

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me, been playing on PS5 with frame rate mode since launch and not a single moment i was bothered by those issues, totally playable without problems

@Nago15

2 жыл бұрын

Sony just updated their new TVs with VRR support, maybe a PS5 VRR update is coming soon:)

@waquarkhan4417

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nago15 yes this month 99%

@Alex_Logan22

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nago15 Most likely since there is a new firmware currently in beta.

14:49 that Margin attack at 33% speed looks hella cool

Very important question, will a patch fix the XBSX longer load time?

It would have been nice to see the load times for the ps4 pro version on the ps5, since that was one of the recommended ways of playing the game. Otherwise great video!

@hughr9088

2 жыл бұрын

Hi I play the PS4 mode on my PS5 and can confirm they are fast, only a couple seconds longer at most than the PS5 times in this video. I regularly count Mississippi's on the loading screens and rarely get over 6 Mississippi's

@stimmythekid

2 жыл бұрын

It's to the point that the loading bar feels unnecessary, usually only a few seconds

@treythebaked595

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stephen_Black that’s so weird… I’ve seen that all over KZread but the loading time is only 8-9 seconds on my series x lol I own Ps5 as well but got it for the x due to balance.

@mk1found

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend to play the Ps4 version on Ps5 when you have a Ps5 already, because this game is build around the combat system, stable frames are key( parry, roll-back stab,....) and the loading times are very good. Buy PsN card online you can save over 10%( example 100€ will you cost 85 to 90), do not buy a game key for this game for upcoming dlc's. I experienced with other games that after 4 to 6 months they account where you download the game will not work after this period and you cannot start the game anymore.

@peite7878

2 жыл бұрын

And comparison of the pop-in

I've been playing the game on PS5 and it's good but I don't understand why From Software couldn't provide 60 FPS on current gen consoles.. thanks for the video guys;) Cheers! 🙂

@vampiszon6620

2 жыл бұрын

their coding team is just plain bad tahts why. So many titles and they suck at it still

@TheRedCap30

2 жыл бұрын

They definitely need to optimize their games

@iNFaunTae

2 жыл бұрын

there isnt 60fps on ps5?

@DanielKw94

2 жыл бұрын

@@iNFaunTae Unfortunately not.. watch the video above and you will see :)

@tigerex777

2 жыл бұрын

Look at their game development history. Their games are godlike in terms of gameplay but in terms of graphic optimization it's been a joke. Look at Dark Souls for the PC it was horrible and a modder fixed it, yeah not the official team but one modder fixed Dark Souls for PC. Look at Bloodborne, masterpiece game but frame pacing is horrible. Now look at Elden Ring, looks like a mid-tier PS4 game but can't stay solid 60fps on PS5. Games like Ghost of Tsuhima look 5x better and run in 4K 60fps... that's embarrassing for FromSoft seriously.

I played and beat the entire game using Quality Mode on the Xbox Series S. Quality Mode kept the game around 30-35 FPS, which I felt was way better than the huge drops i'd get in the FPS mode. I had a good time of it, but I am a Souls vet. I did play Bloodborne, which to be quite frank, never hit 30fps in my entire playtime so this was like great tbh.

How is loading times on PS5 with the PS4 Pro app out of the internal SSD? I have the PS4 disc version, so I can play both versions, but if longer loading times are a thing on PS4 version, its a no go for me.

From software needs to be heavily roasted for this performance on such powerful hardware, the game does not do nearly enough technically to warrant the performance issues, and if asking for outside help is the solution to the issues they have with every release they really should ask for outside help. The issues on PC are pretty poor but to even have same on consoles with fixed hardware where they traditionally release games is surprising. The game is good (not even close to the ratings imo but it's open world dark souls 3 which is fine enough) but the performance issues they really deserve to be fully roasted for, a video like this is appreciated. Would be great if publisher agreements weren't so restrictive that we could learn this information earlier!

@shreder75

2 жыл бұрын

They should be, but it won't happen. People who like these games (KZread channels included) seem to give them a pass on the tech issues more than other games they would have liked more of not for bad tech performance

@ErenTheWarcriminal

2 жыл бұрын

Performance REALLY needs to be highlighted in reviews because it’s such an important part of the actual gaming experience. This game would not have nearly the overrated numbers it has now if they did.

@cheese186

2 жыл бұрын

People that play these games are literally a cult, don't expect such thing.

@curryking1

2 жыл бұрын

I love souls games (beat bloodborne and demons and sekiro all several times) but I understand what you guys mean, communities should not defend practices like this you guys are right, we should hope they do better for the games that they create and we enjoy for sure

@FalloutFan94

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair it is Fromsoftware’s first game on the next gen consoles and their first in an open world and to this scale so people would be more lenient. I heard the PC problems are due to anti cheat software to which it’s not the first game to have that happen to. The frame rate seems to be the only problem in the game which can be fixed in an upcoming update. Most people probably wouldn’t even be anywhere near finishing the game when that happens hopefully.

When I use performance mode, I want to have a solid 60 - I only need 1080p, not 1440. You should be able to choose between the two rather than dynamic and fixed res for series s

@GratefulDave93

2 жыл бұрын

1080 on FromSoft’s engine looks soooo bad tho. Idk if it’s their TAA system but the whole game shimmers.

@Turbo_67783

2 жыл бұрын

If your play on ps5 go to system setting and set resolution out put to 1080p

@themadnes5413

2 жыл бұрын

@@Turbo_67783 The game wont render internally at 1080p, it will still run at 4k or what ever and downsample it to 1080p. If it would be that easy DF would have mentioned it for sure ;)

@Nickmett

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Coming from pc back to ps5 on a 1080p tv, I just want the framerate and the visuals, I get that 4k is great but between 4k low and 1080p ultra, i'd prefer 1080p every single time, same as with framerate 1080p 60fps ultra vs 4k 30fps ultra just doesn't make any sense from a gameplay perspective.

@Wickerman1972

2 жыл бұрын

@@themadnes5413 Yep, and it's really dumb that it works that way.

Been playing this on my XSX/LG set wtih VRR and it's gorgeous and fluid

What about the loading times on the ps4 pro app running on the ps5? Because if its same like the ps5 version then its a no brainer to me to play the ps4 pro app 🤔

Been waiting a whole week for this. Finally.

@MegaLPlover

2 жыл бұрын

Uummm the game came out less than a week ago. Clearly they didn't get a review copy

Sony really needs to send some reps from world wide studio to help them to solve this ridiculous issue Use Kraken, audio chips to offload the loadings

I have the CX as well but I've never used VRR because it disables Dolby Vision. Maybe it's time to give it a go with non-HDR games but it's quite annoying to go that deep into menus for every game change.

As much as it's interesting to discuss running the PS4 Pro version on a PS5, I feel that it's just not acceptable to have to recommend this as an option... but, maybe that's just me.

@Daniel-yz3zf

2 жыл бұрын

@Ryan Chiara yeah I do agree that it's objectively the only way to play at 60fps on console, and that's definitely worth it for some people. My comment was more on the angle that console optimisation shouldn't be that poor that we have to recommend playing lesser versions in order to get stable performance

@Alex_Logan22

2 жыл бұрын

It isn’t, it’s a humiliating failure on the side of From Soft.

@jpesicka999

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, the ps5 performance mode should have used the ps4 pro settings and simply added ambient occlusion, it would have looked better than the ps4 version while maintaining 60 fps. Probably still performance left for details and foliage. It was a simple job and they botched it imo. Still playing ps5 version tho combat and boss fights are unaffected

@ThatFuckinGame

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-yz3zf on consoles AND PC. Pc has actually way worse issues even top of end PC`s.

@dylandog1289

2 жыл бұрын

People act like the ps4 pro version is trash graphics or something…its 1800p, thats the same, or higher res than a lot of modern games. I have it on pc/ps5/ps4. Made character for all versions and played for two hours each. Ps4 pro version wins hands down. Dont think of it as a “last gen” version. Its simply running the game in the right settings for the device (the ps5). Its the 1800p version. Framerate is king in an action game dependant on input lag and polling times.

VRR is seriously a life saver. I’m playing on XSX with VRR enabled and I hardly ever notice any issues. It’s a smooth experience.

@enzog1078

2 жыл бұрын

yeah pc has had it for years. i love my g sync. still waitin for ps5 to implement tho smh

@Korpus_Draige

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, feels pretty good for me.

@BestGameLoadouts

2 жыл бұрын

@@enzog1078 supposed to be “this month” in march. hearing all this they need to release it ASAP

@lordmaster2562

2 жыл бұрын

@@BestGameLoadouts it will be a inferior version of vrr on ps5

@selectaguru

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordmaster2562 not necessarily

23:48 How to know you're fighting a crab in Elden Ring and not DS3: 1. Crab is weak to slash damage, not blunt damage only 2. Crab will let you hit it without putting up any fight

@Khasim92

2 жыл бұрын

If you want a crustacean to destroy you then I recommend visiting the lake in Liurnia, there are some big bois there that you will certainly enjoy encountering.

@charoleawood

2 жыл бұрын

@@Khasim92 I actually haven't played Elden Ring yet, but I have been spending a lot of time in DS3 recently and the crabs there are certainly not the pushovers that you see in this video. I like that the DS3 crabs aren't pushovers, but I don't like that they're only weak to blunt damage when it seems like their faces are a soft part of their body and should be vulnerable to all types of physical damage. There has to be an ideal between these two extremes --- the pushover and the ultra aggressive tank. I look forward to visiting Liurnia and seeing them for myself :)

7:44 I don't understand this part. Persistence should be the same at both 60 and 120Hz if the content plays at 60 fps (so ~16.7 ms of persistence), right? It's just that the 120Hz display shows a frame 2 times for ~8.35 ms each instead of one time for ~16.7 ms.

@brett20000000009

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, He seems to have some fundamental misunderstandings. Really needs to do some research at blurbusters before talking about persistence effects. to be clear with sample and hold VRR mprt(persistence blur) = frametime in ms. even if LFC(low framerate compensation) is doubling frames it doesn't matter on sample and hold as you said the doubled frame is still being shown on the screen for the same amount of time. You should always keep your set VRR refreshrate at the maximum the tv will accept ie 120hz usually, this will actually decrease input lag by a lot for 60fps games because you are not going to ever pay the double buffer vsync penalty when fps goes over or get's close to max refreshrate. you also gain the benefits of QFT(quick frame transport) which is another input lag reducer. (transports and scans out any vrr frame at max hz scanrate).

@Aldagar1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@brett20000000009 That's why I have a 165Hz FreeSync monitor but play with a 60 fps cap. Consistent frame times with minimal input lag.

If you’ve been playing on the native PS5 app, can your existing save data be used if you download the PS4 Pro app?

I’m really happy right now that playing Bloodborne on release completely desensitized me from any kind of performance problems any game might have. Also I really hope Bluepoint is working on some kind of Bloodborne remaster for PS5, would be neat.

@trblemayker5157

2 жыл бұрын

So you have incredibly low standards lol

@shmekelfreckles8157

2 жыл бұрын

@@trblemayker5157 nah, I just think if a game actually runs then nothing stops you from enjoying it

Good Video and comparison, as always from DF BUT no word about the PS5-Controller integration?! I mean a Controller is also a piece of hardware. Is it good integrated in the gameplay? Would be good to know.

How about if you use a XBOX X with a 1080p resolution (120pfs option)? Will it be good in framerates (close to 60fps constant)? No 4K screen here yet and no VRR

series X with VRR you don't notice any of them frame drops 😅I'm on LG oled and didn't notice any frame drops atall

@807D14M0ND5

2 жыл бұрын

Turn it off for a bit just to see, it's... something

I am playing the ps4 version on the ps5, and I have to say, it must be the best way to play. It is like 1440p I think, and the frame rate is smooth. Maybe companies need to be a bit more aggressive with frame rate mode sometimes. It looks fine, not next gen, but good. I am surprised how fast the load times are also, maybe 15 seconds. Also, I haven't updated to the latest patch and it runs well enough.

@dklien6443

2 жыл бұрын

I tried it but the loss of resolution was not ok. I like the amazing visuals that only can be seen on the ps5 version

@tezkhaos

2 жыл бұрын

I think it even pushes 1800p with checkerboarding so the hit in resolution really isn't that bad

@alexanderxatprime

2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking at buying a ps4 disc from someone local. All you have to do is pop the ps4 disc into the ps5 to be able to play at 60fps?

@Lock2002ful

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderxatprime Pretty much.

@alexanderxatprime

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lock2002ful pretty much in what way?

How are the load times for running elden ring ps4 backwards compatibility on Ps5, are load times the same short 5-7 seconds?

What if you reduce the output resolution of the console to 1080p. Does that lock the frame rate to 60? A quick work around if it does!

@sergiorubio7952

2 жыл бұрын

Did that on XSX and PC , game still drops frames. Whatever is causing the issue is deeper then just resolution. Hopefully From is working on it : )

@PursuedByAMemory

2 жыл бұрын

Changing the output resolution doesn't change the internal rendering resolution of the game. The console will just downscale 4K to 1080p(think of it as putting the 4K resolution in a 1080p box, resulting in a sharper image on 1080p display) instead of rendering the game at 1080p.

Playing mine with vrr and never had a stutter or any dropped frames I can see. Especially killing the Dragon in the early parts of the game with 2 people in coop in the open world

@IggyTheHelpless

2 жыл бұрын

Even with VRR it is noticable if you are used to stable framerates, its much better than witout VRR, but its there. So sad...

@ezimm81

2 жыл бұрын

@@IggyTheHelpless it’s hard to replicate in open world scenarios. It doesn’t seem as optimized as it should be or these consoles still are underpowered. But pc isn’t any better from what I’ve seen. Yea it’s definitely better with vrr

Did they ever fix the performance on the PS5 native version? Thinking about giving it a go.

@ajmgames9037

Жыл бұрын

Wondering that also

@NightWanderer31415

Жыл бұрын

+1

@w0000z

Жыл бұрын

​@@ajmgames9037I've been asking around and apparently it's pretty much the same, still dropping to 40-50 frames per second at times, so I'll just stick with the PS4 Pro version. Those drops can be very distracting to me so I'll take lower grass density and shadow quality over unstable framerate.

@Pavel_ZP

Жыл бұрын

Gor the game 3 days ago for ps5. Still sluttering, going change it with ps4 version.

@nickxcom

Жыл бұрын

Posting from the future. They didn't fix it. Ps4 on ps5 still highly recommended

Does elden ring support 3d audio? Or should i go for stereo sound? I use pulse 3d and i can't seem to find the answer anywhere.

I was playing on PS4 and when switching to PS5 I noticed something different in the loading screens and I didn't know what, then I realize that the tips were removed. I assume the game loads so fast that it was useless to have read that you won't have time to read

Quality mode on xsx and LG 4ktv is absolutely phenomenal. Can't speak to the other versions but I'm having a blast.

@Sincerity1993

2 жыл бұрын

Crazy that you aren't allergic to 30 fps because that's what quality mode runs in. On my LG C1 65 4k TV It gives me so much eye strain it's not even funny

@PrematureProcrastinator

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sincerity1993 get your eyes checked m8. Everyone could cope with 30 in an rpg up until a few years ago.

@markopecurica4463

2 жыл бұрын

30fps on a LG oled C9, CX, C1 etc. Is absolutely nonplayable

@Sincerity1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@markopecurica4463 Amen, gives me so much motion sickness

I think at this point with the engine they are using, Bluepoint has proven what can be achieved visually and performance wise that the current engine Fromsoftware is using either needs further refinement or to move on completely. I think part of the reason the demon souls remake felt so good is because the frame pacing was rock solid, movement felt smooth and responsive. It has a crispness to it. I am thoroughly enjoying Elden Ring but the sometimes unresponsive controls make it frustrating due to a technical limitation.

@franciscofarias6385

2 жыл бұрын

Folks at Bluepoint are technical wizards. FromSoftware doesn't have nearly the same level of expertise.

@bizmonkey007

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Demons’ Souls remake makes this look like shit by comparison. From’s games are absolutely amazing but they’ve always struggled technically.

@promo130

2 жыл бұрын

haha really dude, dark souls is only 60 fps on 1440p ,

@tigerex777

Жыл бұрын

FromSoft are master game designers but cannot hold a candle to the technical masters at Bluepoint. Bluepoint staff can probably give Fromsoft devs technical lessons.

Should revisit this,xbox series x loading times are a few seconds now and the performance seems allot better now even without VRR

Have they released some sort of hotfix for Series X? It feels bit smoother in last 1-2 days.

PS4 Pro on PS5 is amazing. Without VRR I'd have been fucked. Crazy that both systems need such strange work around but glad they exist. Loading times are just fine.

@BlackPaperMoon18

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Ps4 version on ps5 is middle ground in terms of loading. Slower than native ps5 app but Way faster than Ps4 pro HDD.

The grass pop-in looks awful, can't believe this is a new-gen game. Also the framerate ugh. Very unoptimized, how come it got those super high scores?

will there be a follow up video after all the patches ?

@mehmetvursavas5922

Ай бұрын

Nothing changed

So on your Oled cx do you use freesync premium or vrr option on the series x,???

This will be my first souls type game ever and I’ll be on the series S. I’m hypedddd

@Night-Jester

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

The exploration is just like The Legend of Zelda back on the NES. There was no online hints, maps, walk throughs and only a few riddles in game.

@makemelaughyouants

2 жыл бұрын

It's so awesome. I think about it all day when I'm not playing it.

@karl343

2 жыл бұрын

That's the key to open world game design, makes the world feel more organic. Too much hand holding in the majority of modern open world games, that ruins exploration.

@Bhubnipz

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I always described Dark Souls as “edgy Legend of Zelda” to people and by god did they make an edgy as hell Breath of the Wild

@4TheWinQuinn

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bhubnipz do you per chance, browse Reddit?

@Bhubnipz

2 жыл бұрын

@@4TheWinQuinn Sure, why?

Does anybody have a weird thing on the PS5 version where often in the open world when the camera is still the graphics get slightly more blurry but when you move the camera it looks normal? Not sure if this is some weird depth of field or chrommatic abberation effect that can't be turned off on PS5 but in footage I've seen online this doesn't seem to happen in those videos.

Hey shoyld I buy it on series x and play it without vrr? Or just wait for xbox 720 to come out and play it with backwards compatibility?

So 9 months on, where are we with this after patching on the next gen consoles? Well, I'll tell you (as no one else seems to be). We are in exactly the same place in terms of performance. Tonight I visually compared PS5 to Series X with Elden Ring 1.08.1 on a LG C2 OLED TV. PS5 is still suffering from stutters and judder, it's not constant, but it is there, this occurs with VRR on and off. Series X is still noticeable worse with framerates with VRR off compared to PS5, dips well below 60FPS. However, turn VRR on with Series X and the appearance is buttery smooth. It's quite incredible really how well it masks the framerate issues. Loading times are now the same, this was the one thing that previously made me choose PS5 before I had a VRR display. So yep, 9 months on; if you have a Series X and a VRR display, this is the way.

@user-sp8fi2zv2v

Жыл бұрын

Hi, bro! Does it feel like a constant 60fps with VRR? 🤔

@steverix8181

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sp8fi2zv2v it does with Series X and VRR enabled display. It's still inexcusable though that FromSoftware haven't bothered to address the performance issues.

@ThomasVvV

Жыл бұрын

Unless you want to play online because there are far more people on PS5 than Xbox.

@y_corruptor_y

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sp8fi2zv2v Not 60 but like stable ~50fps with vrr on sx👍

Does ps4 version running On ps5 has motion blur? I rly love per object motion blur.

@flufflenuggit6499

Жыл бұрын

It does. Playing the PS4 version on the PS5 currently and its simply perfect.

Im a physical disc enthusiast coz I like them stacked disc cases, I seriously hope it gets fixed in 2-3 more patches

@craigdyas1091

2 жыл бұрын

Same feeling punished for buying the disc was very frustrating with the performance difference on the PS4 Pro version of the game.

What are the loading times like in the PS4 BC version running on the SSD compared to the PS5 native version?

Thanks for telling us about the ps4pro version. I was using a lot this way for lower input lag on fighting games on ps5. I can play smooth 60 with no grass late texture loading and in general texture loading while riding torrent.

@chucktownattack

2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain how this helps input lag with fighting games? That's really interesting.

@peite7878

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the pop-in/texture loading is much better in PS4 ver. on PS5 AFAIK

@jose131991

2 жыл бұрын

@@chucktownattack higher frame rates, less input lag naturally. It’s why esports players love low resolutions with 120+ frame rates in competitive shooters because reaction time is a must. Same goes for super fast fighting games as well.

Although I do love this game but what I don’t understand is no reviews mentioned the performance issues and clearly from the scores, performance wasn’t reflected. In what you might call a normal western RPG, strong frame-rates don’t have material impact to the experience but being a Souls game, gameplay is a core mechanic. So stayed up to midnight on Thursday 27th, after trying to start the game about 10 times until the, too early message disappeared, went to Quality mode on my Series X (because I’m a graphics junky and the reason I upgraded my Box), excitement building, through character creation, finally got to control my character and it was practically unplayable, i soldiered on to a point I almost gave up, thought I’d break tradition and changed to frame rate mode and it became playable. I was so confused, genuinely thought it was my Xbox until I started to see you tubers talk about performance. Just don’t know why there was radio silence. As I’ve said love the game but might have waited until performance was patched before buying as it’s not like we don’t have variety at the moment. Anyway glad DF highlighted that fact and not criticising and know the reasons for the delay, just wish this video was available 6 days ago.

@BernardoPC117

2 жыл бұрын

You need to start watching better reviews channels, most of the reviews I saw days before release mentioned the performance problems, Yongyea and Skill up make decent reviews.

@vaguedreams

2 жыл бұрын

While I can't justify your findings, the people that play these games have been dealing with sub 30fps for over a decade now. I'm unsure of why you think that framerate has been some focal point in these games as it's actually part of the challenge and designed with those limitations in mind in the past. This is a new start and new IP. I also agree that it's a bit of a surprise but not unexpected.

@topperharley7142

2 жыл бұрын

@@vaguedreams Why? Because its not 2015 anymore and we got a new generation of consoles with much more power and it is just expected to get 60fps on ps5/series. Higher framerates/faster load times. That's the whole point of these consoles. It HAS to be talked about. Seriously.

@vaguedreams

2 жыл бұрын

@@topperharley7142 While It should be talked about, this is how they make their games and is nothing new for them. The (limited) reviews I've seen have talked about the janky frame rate but they do have that "Souls" viewpoint where things like slow animations, shitty controls, are part of the experience. Look, it's like getting a new Bethesda Elderscrolls and Fallout game and expecting it to not be a piece of shit with game breaking bugs at launch. That's just not going to happen. From Software, while creative, has never, EEEEEVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRR been some kind of technical powerhouse that gave you buttery 60fps goodness and a rock solid story in their games. Expecting more of them when they have never shown that ability is kind of silly IMO.

@tigerex777

2 жыл бұрын

Are you just watching mainstream shill reviews? time to watch some reviewers who just throw out 9s and 10s like candies.

Finally after one week of waiting, looks like you guys doing this part time with other jobs

You mention that VRR can fix most of the problems on Series X. You have done that several times in previous videos as well. I agree with you regarding the framerate, but you never mentions the issue with raised black on the current OLED displays, when VRR is enabled, which will cause flicker especially in darker scenes. I have an LG CX (Like you) and personaly I can't live with the flicker. Do you really think this tradeoff is worth it?

During the release week I thought long and hard about which system I should get the game for (I have PS5, Series X and a PC with an RTX 2060 Super). I finally decided on the Series X version (I own a VRR TV and monitor) and don't regret it a bit. From time to time I feel the frame rate drops but overall the gameplay feels quite comfortable for me. But I decided on the Series X because it is my strongest hardware on paper and not primarily because of VRR. Seems VRR saved the day.

@AddieB55

2 жыл бұрын

Playing on Series X as well, VRR is working wonders.

@cobraneo

2 жыл бұрын

Ps5 has higher frame rates again 🤷‍♂️ So is the superior console for this game.

@conservativecarnage3783

2 жыл бұрын

What is vrr?

@robg7430

2 жыл бұрын

@@cobraneo brain dead take on how it works lmfao

@mjc0961

2 жыл бұрын

@@cobraneo Higher framerates aren't a winner if the framerate is still unstable. The ideal thing to have is a stable framerate, a locked 60 or 30. The second best thing to have, if you don't have the first thing, is variable refresh rate so you can at least smooth out variable performance. PS5 still doesn't have VRR yet, so for now XSX wins. If PS5 was locked 60 and XSX was all over the place, you'd be right. But that's not the case. Better luck next time.

VRR helps. Looks good on the Samsung Qled 90T 65

Would be nice if games like this could be revisited when/if it gets fixed

Every time I see the big glowing tree I instantly think of the trees of valinor

Has anything changed in regards to fps increase on XSX? Its 31-12-2022 now. I really want to play this game but buying it with the mangled 60fps is like buying a ferrari with flat wheels for me. Cant really enjoy the ride ya know...man i hope they fix it!!!

@AlphaladZXA

Жыл бұрын

I was coming here hoping for the same thing, but they never did an update video

@francesco-117

Жыл бұрын

@@AlphaladZXA I bought the game a few days ago and the performance is the same as this video, it almost never reaches 60 fps

@aterraxanime

Жыл бұрын

Is not changed, the ps5 version Is still the Best, the xbox version still with bad fps

Anyone that has played FromSoft games before was expecting this new title to struggle with framerate just like all of their other games. It's an unfortunate problem that likely isn't ever going away, especially if it hasn't by now.

@gabrielggag

2 жыл бұрын

Dark Soul prepare to die edition, we need a decade so another company will “remaster” the game for us.

I wanna know if that ps4 pro version still runs at 60 fps if it is on a external hdd at my ps5?

Has this been rectified in the Elden Ring PS5 latest updates ?

FromSoftware putting the “backwards” in backwards compatibility.