I would just get another headphone and have another audio flavor to listen to, and the new headphone would come with a cable.....

@cypher3323

2 ай бұрын

Ok

800 bucks for minor improvements is a lot. I agree, cables can make a difference regarding the changes you mentioned, as well as slightly improved imaging / separation. If it's worth the expense is only up to the user. The most I've spent on a headphone cable is 250, and I doubt I'll do it again.

My two cents, which isn’t much, but I believe the only perceived differences your average audiophile can hear between cables come from the metal in the wires (silver, copper, SPC, etc) but even with that, the difference are subtle at best. However, when you start getting into these unique cable topographies, casing materials, fancy splitters, special weaves, etc, I just don’t think it’s really worth the additional costs this adds on. I think the important thing to understand about cables (and IEMs if were honest) is that they don’t give you some kind of insight into the actual sound of the recording or an “artist’s intent” of the music. It just gives you a “flavor” of the music that you can either like or dislike, assuming one can hear any differences. Some people like the sound of copper, some like silver. Neither one is right or wrong. It just is. Lastly, and we as audiophiles may not admit this, but sometimes you buy a cable because you like how it looks. Nothing wrong with that. I personally like the look of the cables that come with the Letshouer S12 series. I own four sets of those cables. I just like them! No shame here. 😊

Happy Friday and thanks for the review, Dave! I do believe that cables can enhance the sound where you need it and how some pair better with certain IEMs than others (i.e. planar versus DD versus BA). Having said this, cable choice is certainly not as important as finding ear tips to create that perfect seal for your ear canal, in the area of IEMs. You know what I am most interested in seeing and something I think would help us consumers make more informed decisions? I'd like to see cable manufacturer's post more information besides just the cable material makeup such as the cable's resistance, conductance, and even what type of solder they use to connect to the terminations (or if they are fused via welding). I dunno, maybe am different in that regard of how deeply I look into these details, but it'd be nice for companies out there to have more transparency. I am glad that there are some audiophiles out there in our community that have taken the time to measure and post this (and other) data to help me and others who are also keen on seeing this info. Have a good weekend everyone! 🎶

Another great content and review Dave totally agree with your points on the cables and it can be subjective, yes I do agree with you the replacement cables do change the IEMS sonicly but not a whole lot, I several cables and I changed from stock to replacement the reason is aesthetically and have a blessed, wonderful, great, positive, productive, peaceful and safe weekend and God bless

It always comes down to money, They are nice cables and all but it's the law of diminishing returns is in full effect with cables..

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

Totally 💯

now, there's audiophile material, but some of us just search for quality and joy in music, not so in the 3% of details. Great review, cool to know there are such things in the audio world.

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

My pleasure, you're welcome

I had similar experience with Cables to yours with similar sonic impressions of material used. I have only tried Cables in the price range of Effect Audio Signature series like Cadmus, Eros S... so I don't know about the more expensive Cables but there was a difference with Cables. I actually sold those Cables to fund some IEM purchases just cause of how little the change in sound was. I'll probably invest in Cables again in the future once I have a solid set of IEMs but for now, some less expensive Cables from Hakugei, EarAudio... seem like the best value for me.

Hello, I ordered this cable for my IE 600 SENHEISSER in-ear headphones and I ordered a new DAC for the hiby r6 pro 2 set, is it a good set?

@TheHonestAudiophile

16 күн бұрын

Sorry haven't heard IE600 or the R6 Pro 2.

Great video. Will you review the kiwi ears singolo's?

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

If the funds become available or a Singolo is provided for review then I will gladly listen and review them.

Even if money wasn't an issue thick and heavy ear hooks are always a deal breaker for me

That's lots and lots and lots of cups of coffee. Or at least ten cups even at Charbucks. :)

I think that if you have a $5k IEM or headphone, then these cables are worth to you because the level of your gear already demands the best. Just like a $35 cable is worth buying for my IEMs, someone can point out that you can basically get a complete IEM with a cable, eartips and even a soft protective pouch at $25. So we go and go and go as our level rise, what was once unthinkable pricewise becomes a norm. Someone can always buy stuff they think is more important with money we play with for the hobby. Thanks Dave.

best I can do is a $50 upgrade cable for my hd600 😂 the other day I went to aliexpress and spent $100 in a custom cable with neutrik 1/4 jack and it was braided and all, the sound quality was the same.

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

A lot of the differences from a stock cable is the build, look, feel and connection. Sonics tend to be subtle or non-existent in a lot of cables.

For me the difference is very very small about 1 to 3 percent difference from the standard cable. Not significant. However if the small difference in sound means a lot to you, and you are willing to spend money on it, Then no one should stop you to be happy ! This is also my attitude towards IEM's that are more than $500. For me anything above that is just 15 to 20 percent difference. But if I get the money I will buy the Empire Ears Raven even though its only better than the Monarch Mk3 at most 20 percent, because that small difference for me is a lot in my musical experience.

@TheHonestAudiophile

23 күн бұрын

Exactly. It is about enjoying the music and sharing experiences with others. If you can afford the higher priced gear that is wonderful. But you can experience fantastic quality sound on lower priced products as well. Just enjoy the music on gear that is within your means. Thanks for the comment.

Good morning Dave listening to this very controversial subject. On my drive into work. Take care. Catch you later.

Now thinking about it, there are a lot of variables that affect the sound and quality of whats produced at the end. IEM's, iem filters, cables, DACs, and audio files (streaming service as well). Do you think more companies should make cables with built in DACs? Great review!!!!!

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

Built in line DAC is not something that has impressed me yet. Be curious to see if more research and development goes into that technology.

I respect you for doing ms paint on the thumbnail, I miss when people used it for fun, nowadays a lot of people see it as "unprofessional" I'm thankful I haven't around to cable rolling yet, im happy for now until I get there since I only need to worry about looks for now lol

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

Actually it is Samsung S24 Ultra S-Pen :)

@kenjikodai

3 ай бұрын

@@TheHonestAudiophile that explains why it looks better than what I can do lol

I can definitely hear a difference going from copper to silver or solver plated copper, although slight, there is a difference. But...I cannot hear the difference between cheap cables and "good" cables. My frame of reference only extends to the $50 mark, so I guess "maybe" I would hear a difference if I tried a $800 cable vs a $20 cable, but I would never spend that much on a cable just to see if there is a difference. I do believe you, but unless it's a dramatic difference, I can see no point in paying that much for a cable.

Con cuanto detalle supera DAWN A Shanling UA3 si pudiera darme un porcentaje?

Hey Dave I have another Q for you ( I had asked you about the Oriveti oh700vb). Did you try either of these cables out on the 700vb? As you know I ended up purchasing that set and love it. I own the Code 23 and initially bought it to pair with my Xenns Up and it was sort of overly warm so I tried it on my Sa6 Ultra and wow, what a match. So I know improved sonics is a real thing. Filled in the dynamics, increased the impact, as well as improved the soundstage, I got lucky. Not sure if I'll get lucky again so wanted to check with you just in case. the other cable I'm thinking about is the Cadmus 8W. The Oriveti sounds great as is but.....well you know.Thanks in advance. Brett

@TheHonestAudiophile

2 ай бұрын

Ive not yet tried. All the OH700VB and the Code 24 cables are out on loan with other reviewers.

@brettanderson2327

2 ай бұрын

@@TheHonestAudiophile Ok. Thanks Dave.

@TheHonestAudiophile

2 ай бұрын

My pleasure, you're welcome

@brettanderson2327

2 ай бұрын

@@TheHonestAudiophile Sorry to bother you again. I'd say with the OH700VB everythingis perfect for me but at times I find some vocals to be a touch siblant (perhaps due to a lil forwardness?) From your recent experience with the Code 24C do you think the vocals would sort of become too forward or too prominent on it?

@brettanderson2327

2 ай бұрын

Perhaps something like the Ares 8W safer? Thanks.

Cables absolutely affect the sound. Grab a multimeter and you can see the difference in resistance and inductance between cables. These 2 parameters alone drops the higher frequencies. Then there's capacitance...

Makes the GBP£380 Viking Weave cable I am considering buying, seem relatively inexpensive.

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

I haven't used Viking Weave cables, they look nice and seem to be similar priced to Effect Audio. I will look into them.

@ReverendDr.Thomas

3 ай бұрын

@@TheHonestAudiophile, quite coincidentally, I just emailed the owner of Viking Weave, Mr. Sebastian Kedra, regarding a cable for my pre-ordered Mod House Tungsten headphones.

Hiby fc4 en comparación con dawn ¿Cuál es más sonido analógico?¿Tiene el mismo cuerpo de nota?.

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

FC4 is more analog sounding.

@andresvr8357

3 ай бұрын

@@TheHonestAudiophile y en la suavidad de sonido también gana?

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

yes

Another good one, Dave. You lost me at $500 and $800. Lamp wire, please.🙂

There are a lot of veterans and knowledgeable people in the hobby who swear by cables so there must be some truth in it ? I will never know though since I can't justify droping 1k on a cable knowing I can buy some very nice IEMs or headphones with that money...

$500…😮 I'll pass thank you ;) EIGHT HUNDRED!? 😂. I'm a firm believer in cables but it's a tiny amount of difference and certainly not 100's of dollars difference!

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

Yeah these are good cables but I can't recommend purchasing unless you find them on the used market for a lot cheaper.

@pooley3l33t

3 ай бұрын

My sentiment also, I just bought a £50 Tripowin cable for my Sundaras, That's about my level 😂

@ReverendDr.Thomas

3 ай бұрын

@@pooley3l33t, that is probably overkill for the Sundaras (which is a Sanskrit word, meaning "BEAUTIFUL").

@pooley3l33t

3 ай бұрын

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Maybe, but it's way better than the stock one, it's just a rubbery mess.

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

Unless you want a different look and termination; the Sundara cable isn't that nice looking and is 6.35mm.

With cheap IEM i hear no difference. Weird enought the high end model are more trasnparent. Even you can listen to bad amplifier or DAC more clearly. In this case cables difference are also noticable. Weird huh... i think it is snake oil for lower end gear. Some explanation why cable does change sound is the impedance.

@TheHonestAudiophile

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the thoughts and impressions.

Sorry, too expensive for me. Cheers

Next review are shoelaces , right ?!

Fking insane !!!

Lets go!! Snake oil!!!

You shouldn't spend more than 100, get outta here. You hear buzzing in you heads

@samuelchan3920

3 ай бұрын

Cry

@angelOcrisu

3 ай бұрын

@@samuelchan3920 your judgement cries, pal.

No they're not unless I can hear God speaking directly to me thru these cables. Give that money to a dog shelter - you'll be less selfish for a minute diminishing return and doing something good. This is capitalism at its worst. Period

@TheHonestAudiophile

3 ай бұрын

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