This Man dose not understand extortion. Criminal mindset.

@nomalungelongcete5875

Ай бұрын

'dose'🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@lyma3880

Ай бұрын

He doesn't want to understand

Mphofu is just discrediting himself. This explanation is just pure BS. EFF took money they knew belonged to the bank

@richardkamya4566

Ай бұрын

And if it were u? Could u not take the money?

@gasisa78

Ай бұрын

Is it the first time banks have funded a political party??

@masambeni

Ай бұрын

@@richardkamya4566 not unless I want to sit in jail for many years.

@ntatemohlomi2884

Ай бұрын

​@@gasisa78stupid question, like your Mpofu. They were not funded, they took a bribe, they stole from poor, rural, elderly and yes black.

@mbonisemazibuko6746

29 күн бұрын

Donations were given, agreed. Loans were given, paid back in full. ANC is implicated in getting billions from VBS. You concentrate on little millions instead of billions from the rolling party recipients.

Sometimes I don't know who's worse...the snake or the one who defends the snake

@mduduzithabede1999

Ай бұрын

Birds of the same feather…

@DigsWigs2022

Ай бұрын

The snake defender is the absolute worst.

@Luwi-Molefe6850

Ай бұрын

No, the hypocrite is the worst snake, the one who doesn't say anything about phala phala, the one who doesn't acknowledge that there are 38 ANC members mentioned, the one who doesn't ask who funded CR17 campaign, names which have been sealed by the courts. Yet you want to make noise about a non-case.

@phathuneluvhada4668

Ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the words of wisdom!!!

@khiba_77

29 күн бұрын

The one in the middle.

How rude and dismissive are Mpofu he talks for moments at end and interrupt the other guest all the time. Fact is money invested by poor people found it's way to the EFF as a bribe for them to stop putting the heat on Zuma for the loan granted by VBS. Further evidence shows Malema spending some of the money on luxury goods, hotels and drinks. Why if the money was given to the EFF for party expenditure did their leader blow it on a personal spending spree?

@mercyndivhu9920

Ай бұрын

EFF can not deny the fact that they got the money.

@lylm4147

Ай бұрын

People also think that the money that was stolen is all money of individual depositors. That is not the case depositors ( identified ad poor people ) are about 30000 . The bulk of the money is Municipality money. The bank was a mutual bank and not a registered bank and by law municipality was not allowed to deposit in VBS. However through corruption by cbc and some municipal officials 15 municipalities deposited money in VBS. Northwest and Gauteng alone deposited R1.6 billions. The individuals ( poor people's) deposits, I believe is around R500 million.

@lyma3880

Ай бұрын

​@@lylm4147when we mention poor people we include those municipalities because those municipalities are serving the previously disadvantaged areas.....that money is meant for the poor

@lylm4147

Ай бұрын

@@lyma3880 that's true. But mos5 peoe think her a all peo4s deposits.

@mulalor318

Ай бұрын

I am yet to find any poor people who have the capacity and capability to save money. How do you define poor people?

A simple question why didn’t eff open an account with vbs? He can’t even answer a simple question

@siphomahlalela7092

Ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅he is just emotional and embarrassed himself

@Luwi-Molefe6850

Ай бұрын

He answered the question extremely well. You are just prejudiced, there's no crime in receiving a donation, just like Zille received money from the Guptas, Zweli Mkhize received through a different account.

@theonly6359

Ай бұрын

So every political party that receives donations from banks do they have bank accounts in those banks???

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

@@theonly6359 thats not the point.. you are diverting.. does malema pay your food? everyone knows very well that malema and floyd are crooks.. thats why they call malema flip floper cos 1 day he shouts zuma must go then when som1 pays him lik vbs, he flips and twerks for zuma.. you guys are just sheep.. follow blindly.shame

@makgaboepitanus6969

Ай бұрын

Mr Machaka .. does it mean that the anc has been making decisions that are outside the bounds of law......now that you concede to apology for the anc?

No wonder why Adv keep loosing cases, he just admitted corruption but try to spin out of it. Law enforcement agencies must do their jobs

@mbonisemazibuko6746

29 күн бұрын

He admitted loans given and paid for any donations. There is no crime in this. You don't understand the Law

Basically all the corrupt politicians are in denial of their corrupt activities

@BenjaminMalatji247

Ай бұрын

Standard operating protocol - deny evade-evade dismiss "deed", that's how they roll.

@cindymatushesindiswa4524

Ай бұрын

All of them are the same to steal is their culture but this one is worse how can you steal from the poor

@AndrewMcFarlane_1

Ай бұрын

Corrupt EFF

@katematlamela2332

Ай бұрын

nonsense

@theonly6359

Ай бұрын

All politicians are corrupted

How can the money of the poorest of the poor given as donation .This is a coverup.😳😳😳😳

@joymakhubela6691

Ай бұрын

Well said

@mlungisimasinda7117

Ай бұрын

Ask matodzi

@richardkamya4566

Ай бұрын

Doesn't Fnb donate? Whose money is it?

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

@@billyrajoo8076 cos it was not donation but a bribe

@stifler5062

8 күн бұрын

​@@richardkamya4566Investments, Off-shore, property Investments. That's how they make money. Giving.loans and collecting on interest dummy.

According to Dali Mpofu, extortion can now be claimed to be a donation and that is the end of the matter...😑

@margaretlesoleso

Ай бұрын

The audacity of these mafias😱

@vincentmothapa2421

Ай бұрын

Did they extort the money?

@jameskillu9171

Ай бұрын

He is using DA arguments, when they Justified donations from the GUPTAs.

@sugar-rayluvschelsea7233

Ай бұрын

@@vincentmothapa2421 what do you call a donation in 'return' for keeping silent about the Zuma loan?

@sugar-rayluvschelsea7233

Ай бұрын

@@vincentmothapa2421 definition of extortion "a practice of obtaining something, especially money through force or threats". Meaning without the threat of reputational and business damage by the EFF of VBS in the media the donation would have never taken place

The painful thing is that some people lost their life and others developed serious illness because of these money taken from poor people. They played double standards, they care for poor people they claim to protect. It's nonsense advocate

@Luwi-Molefe6850

Ай бұрын

There are 38 ANC members arrested in relation to VBS account, but you want to make noise about donations made to political parties.

@nakedikhei7883

Ай бұрын

Perhaps you should have added that while many people lost their money and life - many mansions. were built and many flights were made to Dubai and many blesse became instant tycoons - a sad reality

@lyma3880

Ай бұрын

​@@Luwi-Molefe6850you have no shame and conscience.....we are talking about people who lost their lives and livelihoods here

@mothibeditseladimitloa3147

Ай бұрын

@@nakedikhei7883 exactly and some are enjoying with these poor people 's money

@mothibeditseladimitloa3147

Ай бұрын

@@Luwi-Molefe6850 it doesn't matter any person or parties must pay back the money especially for elderly people.

They got Paid 16 million to Stop criticizing VBS, That is what is Legally called a Bribe.... Mpofu Cmon

@stblad3

Ай бұрын

Exactly and they did not report the bribe attempt, they gladly accepted the money.

@duanecronje

Ай бұрын

its just the next step, started with denying? now that they know the money trail will catch them, they try and say it is not a crime, their chickens are coming home to roost.

@vijiachain3523

28 күн бұрын

They must be held accountable. But by who? Malema is despicable!

@seloaneronald2462

27 күн бұрын

Do you have proof? Dali gave clear that absa approached him, donation is it bribery? You need to learn and be wise not cover your thinking by foolishness.

@relaxingsleepaudio2320

27 күн бұрын

@@seloaneronald2462 I have proof, a Leaked Affidavit by the Former CEO of VBS, Who said he Himself bribed Malema & Shivambu..... it was all over the News... Where have You been🤔

Dali how dare you say ‘nonsense’ this was money invested by poor black people you as the eff claim to support. Shame on you Dali for even defending this, you’re a disgrace to your profession 😢

@aaronlebabo3927

Ай бұрын

Shame on you who can't Juxtapose truth and propaganda.

@0761ZoRO

Ай бұрын

Rubbish!

@rockpoppets6182

Ай бұрын

If it’s a donation to eff why did they not put this into the eff account?

@qbond007

29 күн бұрын

Banks hold money from poor and rich people alike. Stop being silly

I think Advocate Dali Mpofu honestly failed to spin this situation. He kept on ignoring the straightforward ethical issues surrounding this situation

@mduduzithabede1999

Ай бұрын

You can’t spin this story, even Zizi Kodwa would not have spinned it 😂

Dali Mpofu 😅😅😅😅😅is a joke he's even failing to justify this nonsense they must just accept they're caught in the wrongful acts

@luyandamgaba3937

Ай бұрын

EFF will need a good lawyer, Dali would need to sit this one out.

@tumisangpaul5483

Ай бұрын

bro did you read that affidavit your self or you just listining on what media saying.....?

@katematlamela2332

Ай бұрын

Nonsensical

@chrissimende8167

Ай бұрын

It's because you're so desperate for EFF and Malema to be found to have benefited/contributed to the collapse of VBS,I'm sorry to let you know there is nothing for EFF and Malema have done wrong.Why is it no-one is talking about ANC which benefited over 95% of the money from VBS.

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

@@chrissimende8167 so becos anc benefited, malema is not guilty? lol.. your guys behave lik malema pays your bills.. fact is, they are corrupt, they use their influence and flip flop to follow the money.. nobody is desperate, we want crook to go jail, thats all.. Pauli van Wyk and other journalists have no reason or time to personally follow malema and julius.. they are journalists

Lair!!!!!! These poor old people must get there money back.

Dali Mpofu is such a disgrace to the legal fraternity, shame on you Mr Mpofu for trying to defend the indefensible

@zamokuhllukhele3713

Ай бұрын

how so. as far as I am concerned he has been clarifying the legal issues around this issue. it's only people who wish that the EFF blemished. He has been explaining what constitutes a bribe vis a vis a donation.

@SiyabongaCyfretLanga

Ай бұрын

​@@zamokuhllukhele3713true indeed my brother

@khiba_77

29 күн бұрын

No shame on you.

@mbonisemazibuko6746

29 күн бұрын

Public opinion is something one should respect but it does not mean everything said especially in the Affidavit is true especially if one seeks a lesser sentence due to compliance with the law enforcement agencies or the judiciary systems. Dali Mpofu is giving a version of what he knows happened, you have no right to accuse him of such you have uttered. Let the law take its course and justice prevail

@Gezuyisemtshali-xi5yl

20 күн бұрын

@@mbonisemazibuko6746 the only justice is their slogan with red berrets and gumboots banging tables" PAY BACK THE MONEY" People say nothing about the poor people who were robbed

I think mr Mpofu think that we stupid and the problem he think he can fool us because he knows the law more than everyone in SA

@mduduzithabede1999

Ай бұрын

He doesn’t know the existing laws but he’s trying to create EFF and Zuma laws

@thabomonyamane3596

Ай бұрын

Don't say we ntate please

@0761ZoRO

Ай бұрын

I think you are an idiot, yes😂

@penekedirero4636

Ай бұрын

​@@thabomonyamane3596I am included in that we ntate.

EFF has been exposed badly here and now they need to show what happened to the money. Pay back the money!!

@michaelsenior5048

4 күн бұрын

I don't understand. Black people must be held to high standards, but the rand are being openly manipulated, and yet we're quiet on this elephant in the room??

Sad how Mpofu tries to defend corruption. So sad its the culture of our country.

@mogauledwaba9629

Ай бұрын

As always

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

yep, he does the same for zuma

Stop spinning this Dali. Let Shivambu and Malema explain to a judge. Stealing from the poorest of the poor is absolutely disgusting.

@donsolomon8501

Ай бұрын

@@maverickat4544 i think hes trying to seperate the EFF from the individuals.

@makhadziparousiaphusewa1367

Ай бұрын

And may may 77tswsr😊

@SylviaMitchell-tz2sl

Ай бұрын

I agree with you 💯

@user-qr3yi4nh8e

Ай бұрын

It's time now to investigate Ramaphosa and Motsepe about minerals and resources of South africa 🇿🇦 enough it's Enough

@MzamoAdoons372

Ай бұрын

​@@donsolomon8501how😂😂😂

But you are missing the point. Nobody in VBS had the right to "donate" any monies to any party - since this money belonged to the poor, mainly African clients of VBS.

@norbertt.t6444

Ай бұрын

Leave the story of the poor alone - Where is the criminality here ? prove it -Stop the Emotional blackmail .

@wangatshivhase8381

Ай бұрын

it’s already been proven by SARS that the money that went to sgameka coincidentally found its way to Floyd’s fnb private wealth account which he used to fund his 800k shopping spree in sandton with vbs shareholders money. The political muscle of the eff can indeed be bought , so much for a party that claims to be the antithesis of the anc when the only thing that has changed is the color of the uniform.

@tshamusiyomashudu1275

Ай бұрын

​@@norbertt.t6444you are on point

@balenidumisani296

Ай бұрын

VBS was a bank. Many people banked there, not only the elderly. ABSA, FNB etc also donate to certain organizations, and people of different different economic standing bank there. You'll never hear people saying it's the money of the poor

@XPR2019

Ай бұрын

VBS was a business wdym, they can give money to whomever they feel like it😂

Dali we now know it was not a donation but the looting of VBS money that belonged to the poor and downtrodden. Don't come and twist things here we are not stupid.

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

Ай бұрын

You're just bitter bcz it doesn't go to your side 😂😂, again leaked affidavit can't be used to prosecute others.

@siphomariah3126

Ай бұрын

Brother Eff never received money from Vbs but from Sgameka wena vafana

@GielPapier-tj1cx

Ай бұрын

You are not stupid but you speak like one

Dali is not convincing in his spin. You cannot compare a commercial bank and VBS. What would be the rationale for VBS donating to the EFF knowing that all the VBS money is for the poor trying to save for tomorrow? You cannot wish away the extortion in this case.

@vuyisileraymo2388

Ай бұрын

So, over 2 billion was from poor gogos only? Think deep 😢

@williemarthinus9619

Ай бұрын

The honorable Mr Mpofu conveniently forgets that the other donors are not bankrupt due to looting.

@Meths69

29 күн бұрын

@@vuyisileraymo2388 it's the circumstances under which the donation was made. Don't you think EFF took advantage of the precarious situation under which VBS was? Were they not supposed to consider the shareholders of that bank? They simply took advantage of the situation. Clear

@vuyisileraymo2388

29 күн бұрын

@@Meths69 but what I am saying is that you cannot say that as the fact, it's accusations. By the way, the mainstream and independent media had a chance to address their concerns/accusations by Julius Malema and they could not find anything except that the bank card of Brian Shivambu was used where Julius Malema was. J. Malema did not deny that, it's just that people are still healing from self hatred thus, they don't listen and search for the truth for themselves 🙏🏿

Mpofu is just mumbling nonsense,he shouldn't have came to this interview.

@nathanielkgobe427

Ай бұрын

Is mumbling nonsense bcs you hate, MALEMA and the party that is fighting monopoly capitalist simply bcs you are captured, as Whites fights one of your own, u'll help a white man, aoxam big English but slothful thinking.

Malema on his interview he say he didn't receive any money from vbs today dali say money they receive from vbs was donation i am lost

@LucasMoremi-nw7fg

Ай бұрын

U will be lost cz u never loved malema stop talking shit

@user-gd4qg7tt2b

Ай бұрын

There is Malema. ...then there is EFF

@vusicindi1609

Ай бұрын

This bubbling lying lawyer whose business is to spin for all known thieves. He brings in irrelevant examples.

@ziphongcobo6315

Ай бұрын

EFF is Malema?

@PeteboyE

Ай бұрын

@@LucasMoremi-nw7fg U love malema??🤣😂🤣😂😍🤩watch out ,his girlfriend shivambu will moer you🤣🤣🤣

Dali, you can try and spin this as much as you want, this case is very simple. If it was a donation it would have gone directly to EFF. Now the question is where did the money from Sgemeka go to.

@lyma3880

Ай бұрын

Very true

Journalist not up to the task, Dali unable to explain and defend his clients and the co-debating partner a failure.

Modern day Robin Hood. Steal from the poor to pay the rich.

@Smn112

Ай бұрын

If you have proof go and open a case, you have a right

@aarongunnz9513

Ай бұрын

EFF 4u

@craigclifton7254

Ай бұрын

​@@Smn112there is a sworn avidavit.floyd and Jools is in consultation now with their lawyers 😅😅

@lm_b5080

Ай бұрын

our CIC has the RIGHT to use EFF money as he please. you just jealouz of his shoes & life! viva EFF!

@craigclifton7254

Ай бұрын

@@lm_b5080 he is going to start wearing orange overalls. Why do you hero worship thieves? Africa will always be poor because you follow corrupt leaders.

A donation from poor black ppl bank invested? EFF should just be quiet. This can't be defended.

Every bank takes money from poor people 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Mpofu is just embarrassing. They got money for their silence, bribe!

Cant listen is this guy mad was the donation reported to sars was tax paid was the donation reported to parliment why was donation not paid into eff account where the old people told their money was going to the eff are you proud d Mpofu of using pensioners money to go to the eff

@pxskillionairesmedia6568

Ай бұрын

Ask yourself about CR17 you will get your answers

@bigd5745

Ай бұрын

@@pxskillionairesmedia6568 not about cr17 its about vbs must have the wrong case

I am more interested in how Mr. Mpofu's son will analyze the EFF corruption allegations regarding VBS Bank donations

This guy is just so corrupt he is defending all the people that's on the wrong side of the law he is also involved

@Kush-Kemet

Ай бұрын

Unless you have an LLB, your input is mute and this is above your head...

@thembadee2740

Ай бұрын

Yes he is the one who defending the thieves in this country that is why they are so defending of Zuma they each other who deed what that's why they drink tea together 😅😅😅😅😅

@TshuTshi9642

Ай бұрын

​@@thembadee2740 Who defends land thieves (DA) up to so far? The answer is 'ANC'!😊

@bobrobinson9742

Ай бұрын

​@@TshuTshi9642The DA never stole land.What land did you ever own that was stolen from you.None I presume,but you want land and don't want to pay for it.And let's get a valid point straight 99.9999% of blacks never payed for or owned land.

@moselinkanyane6090

Ай бұрын

This not helpful unless you support it based on discussion. Which part you think Mpofu said Which is not making sense the guys challenged him? Let's support our points

A whole advocate defending nonsense with more nonsense! I hate politicians...

Of course they are..they are not going to admit to it..but the money trail will be their downfall...

What about the R1 mil per month?

Dali younare mesding up the ehole thing bro .Stop babbling because you not convincing anybody

You can see the shielding by Mr EFF. He has been doing this for a long time. Sure he also go a cut, would not put it pass him.

@arnoldstuart7280

Ай бұрын

So sad, I wonder what has he been teaching his kids....

11:27 you know the party is guilty when they try to discredit the source of evidence not the evidence itself. Dali is just making it worse

@sisandamatomela3272

Ай бұрын

But this "evidence" is not new, why must it be treated differently now as opposed to back in 2018 ? What changed ?

@kwaai101

Ай бұрын

@@sisandamatomela3272 the affidavit you see is testimony to truth. Prior to this, the evidence was based of financial records showing transactions to various entities. As such, it left room for deliberation, conversation and altercation of truth. However, what the affidavit does is provide context to each of these transactions. The why, the who and the when. Without this context, VBS donations to a party is seen legitimate, despite the mechanism of transfer. However, now, with the affidavit we can't understand the context of the transaction. What essentially was done is VBS had paid "hush money" to EFF via Skamega. Why? Because they wanted the EFF to stop publically highlighting JZ's loan from VBS bank. In an attempt to hide the hush money, VBS had been instructed to falsify the contractual dates of the transactions to make it seem as if the transaction occured prior to the JZ loan scandal as to not draw a connection between money paid (donation) and the desired outcome (EFF no longer publically calling out JZs loan from VBS) This is the change. Because financial records were altered, the prior evidence falsified dates could not link the payment to an outcome. But now we can.

@multitechsolutions3168

Ай бұрын

So Phala phala must be investigated cos they discredit Fraser

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

@@sisandamatomela3272 why was malema not arrested in 2018? thats the bigger question.. and it is different now becos now, its coming from the horses mouth, the man who was actually in the room and made the deals and also made the payments.. so we will now see a fight back from mpofu, malema and co, not in court, but in the media.. shout out journalists and whoever they can.. they want your support now..lol..but when eating money and in dbn july they didnt invite you.. hahahahaaaa

@SouthAfrican_AF

Ай бұрын

​@@sisandamatomela3272All truth, the real truth, will come to light in 2024.

By just seeing Dali Mpofu , there's a huge problem there 😂😂😂😂

@sihletngcobo

Ай бұрын

😅

@dineshanpillay5944

Ай бұрын

Dali the dummy 😂😂😂

@sivuyilezondeka6768

Ай бұрын

Dali Mpofu is an educated fool

@NJ_Random

Ай бұрын

One thing that man does is keep a job. 😂

@tate_makona

Ай бұрын

​@@dineshanpillay5944 The level of disrespect for an Indian illiterate calling a well known, reputable black Senior Counsel "dummy". Sit down and be educated.

Mpofu pay back the money😢😢

Why was the donation not put directly into EFF bank account instead of sgamede bank account?. Donations have to be accounted for as "donations" with SARS. The fact that it wasn't put through EFF books as donations is a offence and SARS must go after the EFF. Money laundering 101.

When Dali is involved you already know they're guilty 🙈🤣

@debbieditsele8333

Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is why eff was crying after election, they knew they would be under fire 🔥

You cannot have a fair discussion with a Lawyer that represents the accused.

@kholwanindlovu559

Ай бұрын

Malema van defend himself even without a lawyer have not seen how he devoured the gun strory😂😂😂

These guys don’t care about us😅

@lefamaila2107

Ай бұрын

Did you vote for the EFF they care about those who vote for them you must continue voting for whoever

@J97rsa

Ай бұрын

What does voting have to do with looting money from the most vulnerable​@@lefamaila2107

@sifisodube4686

Ай бұрын

Exactly and it’s so funny people don’t see that

@unqlegregg8246

Ай бұрын

​@@sifisodube4686we are not gonna be dictated by you

The EFF must be jailed just for sending Dali Mpofu

@ziphongcobo6315

Ай бұрын

Who is EFF

Simple straight forward all those who received the donation from VBS and in their back of the minds, knew that VBS is not a commercial bank but was for the community of Venda. They must repay the monies because poor and elderly people need desperately

@nakedikhei7883

Ай бұрын

Since all major Commercial Banks are possessions of White monopoly capital that refused to play the game - the VBS was an accessible piggy bank to feed the greed of politicians - and the list is longer than you think - many of those luxurious mansions across the country could be attached if the NPA knows what to do

@molemorobie

Ай бұрын

Was VBS a non-profit? And if it did make profits, why couldn't it donate to organisations it deemed to advance interests of it's constituency?

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

​@@molemorobiecos eff are corrupt just lik zuma

@moketeratlabala1824

Ай бұрын

​@@molemorobie holy moly, it's a mutual bank, the owners will and shall always be the depositors. People defending the EFF are on drugs or they are crazy.

@jameskillu9171

Ай бұрын

DA received money from the Guptas knowing Guptas were not commercial banks

The guilty never admit their crimes 😢😢😢😢

If it was a donation to the party why the money had to via different account. It doesn't make sense. Advocate please give us a good advise and not beat about the bush

A whole advocate making such weak arguments? 😢

There's 38 ANC members arrested in connection of VBS, no one says anything about that.

@user-ux3zb5yo7m

Ай бұрын

So u mean bcos of that there's nothing to explain by eff leadership?

@user-ux3zb5yo7m

Ай бұрын

They hv even mentioned Dany Msiza and Florence from anc

@Jagged-mm7sb

Ай бұрын

​@@user-ux3zb5yo7m so arrest the EFFer and we will be happen and quieten done.

@lakamanamela1001

Ай бұрын

But they are arrested and they are facing the law, what about eff leaders ? They must face the law too

@mogauledwaba9629

Ай бұрын

Exactly even the eff nd every 1 involve must face de law

Mpofu making excuses for corruption makes him look very bad.

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

Ай бұрын

Eff got nothing from the vbs mos wht you want him to say, you're just bitter bcz it doesn't go to your side 😂😂

@ShawnRademeyer

Ай бұрын

@@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki What nonsense are you talking about? Are you saying Floyd and Malema don't represent the EFF? The issue isn't EFF per say, but their corrupt leaders.

@goldennyirenda1629

Ай бұрын

You are just a dunderhead just like you newsroom who were very eager to show everyone that the EFF commited a crime but just to be disappointed that there is any crime here. Next time use you heads and not your ......🤣🤣🤣🤣

@doreenntuli7705

Ай бұрын

​@@TlhalefangBenjaminMolelekiNo,they got money from VBS Dali says it was a donation.

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

Ай бұрын

@@doreenntuli7705 but there's no evidence that says eff got money from the vbs as donation, a just hearsay and again leaked affidavit can't be used to prosecute others.

Politicians thinks South Africans are fools

@user-op4hi3vp5g

Ай бұрын

They exactly thinks so and of which it is Not

@SenabaDikgale

29 күн бұрын

Which politicians

Pay back the money!

The EFF stopped talking about VBS once they “donated” to them. Sounds like the EFF can be bought.

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

obviously, thats why malema is called a flip flopper.. he flips to whichever side pays

@AbongileMafevuka

Ай бұрын

it is just common courtesy and a note of gratitude, why would any party talk bad about a donor? Would you? Political parties depend on donations and not on membership fees. Get real.

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

@AbongileMafevuka 1stly, it was not a donation, but a bribe.. secondly, som of us knew long ago the malema can be bought, and this proves it.. stop diverting

@RFDS333

Ай бұрын

@@AbongileMafevuka you get real. If I find out someone is corrupt and dodgy and I shout it from the roofs tops but then Myself and the person I was accusing of corruption “donates” money to me and all of a sudden the shouting stops and I no longer peruse the person in terms of pointing out their corruption do I not then become the one enabling the corruption?! I think you need to get real. Its ok to admit the EFF is pay as you go, though now that they lost support in the last election I think they’ll start sending a few more please call me’s 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@RFDS333

Ай бұрын

@@AbongileMafevuka Malema even said when they had their little investigation in 2017 “We have never been in communication with VBS” but now seems they met in person in Sandton. Gucci Freedom fighters that wear watches that Mr Johan Rupert sold them🤣🤣🤣 what a joke

Money was paid to Brian Shivambu 's account and not donation to EFF???😮

@silaskhalishwayo

Ай бұрын

Then eff has nothing to with it

@craigclifton7254

Ай бұрын

@@abudlkader927 it will have to be proofed in court and I hope Dali will be there lawyer 🤣

@NJ728

Ай бұрын

​@@silaskhalishwayo🤦🏾‍♂️

@mthokozisilanga4497

Ай бұрын

Yep. The affidavit states that the money was a donstion to the EFF, but through an individual account. The EFF bosses did not want to give the VBS the EFF’s bank account. Why?

@Creativemind_111-c3m

Ай бұрын

I am an EFF member but eish this one...is a steep mountain to climb....a donation paid to Sgameko for what🧐.... And if it's a donation why pay it on another bank account which doesn't belong to the organization the donation was meant for🧐.... Why did matodzi suggest a donation at the first place....after having met with our leaders who were vocal about a loan to former President Zuma. We just gave the da, ff+, afriforum and white people a silver bullet on a silver plate... I'm afraid we will go down on this one.

i think mpofu is the only guy there speaking nonsense

@MrEvansjethro

Ай бұрын

No, you simply want to believe what your head tells you. If logic serves you well, you'd know that R6 million is a drop in an ocean compared to R1 billion donated to CR17.

@UmbusiZiqalo

Ай бұрын

Why do you say so? I find his 3 main points valid.

@princemashilo5683

Ай бұрын

No. You've just written nonsense.

@WillamShauke

Ай бұрын

He cursed when Mandela was serving he was busy with winnie 😅😅😅

@sibongilemolale3431

Ай бұрын

@@WillamShauke oh please is that all you can say

Being associated into a scandal that basically ruined a whole bank doesn't look good for the eff.

Dali Mpofu is lying through his teeth 😬

@aarongunnz9513

Ай бұрын

I remember back then, Dali said that his sister gave him R20

@nathanagnew9167

Ай бұрын

He also needs to go to jail

@nathanagnew9167

Ай бұрын

​@@aarongunnz9513R20 that's nothing 😂

@sisandamatomela3272

Ай бұрын

Where is he lying exactly...state which FACT he said that is incorrect ?

@luyandamgaba3937

Ай бұрын

A bad liar at that

Im so disgusted with mpofus comparisons, it's appalling 😩😩😩

Dali is a liar

@nomalungelongcete5875

Ай бұрын

All politicians are liars

@JabulaniMathuthu

28 күн бұрын

Ur a liar

criminals do not accept that they are criminals

@0761ZoRO

Ай бұрын

I first saw that with apartheid criminals in SA.

Which corrupt politicians will admit they are corrupt?

@nomalungelongcete5875

Ай бұрын

Which? Good question They always deny

@theonly6359

Ай бұрын

Which one is not corrupt??

@mrinteldaplug7512

Ай бұрын

​@nomalungelongcete5875 more so alway get away with everything then say "have I been found guilty " for you citizens to be calling us corrupt like any of them ever serve they time

We might wish to see eff leadership in prison, or have difficulty in understanding Mpofu, but i don't forsee any prosecution emerging from this case. On question of morality, in SA we have been living through immoral governance from apatheid to 30 yrs of looting governance. Immorality is entrenched in all our country's dealings. The poor always suffer

@lyma3880

Ай бұрын

And the poor vote for them 😢😢they love ANC their kids love EFF and they suffer the consequences year in year out😢

This advocate makes a lot of own versions but say other make own versions. He mention names of people, Vodacom, good party and no one is talking about other people except those who are mentioned in the affidavit. He is the one who is confused and think he will also confuse us. He must compare apple with apple and nothing else

@williemarthinus9619

Ай бұрын

He is denying and deflecting. Defending Corruption 101

@vaeterua

Ай бұрын

​@williemarthinus9619 Listen closely,understand and scrutinize .Do not deviate ..

@mothibeditseladimitloa3147

Ай бұрын

@@vaeterua i don't deviate but the advocate who knows law doesn't answer relevant question instead he mention other individuals, companies etc.

@lucaslusandabota3913

Ай бұрын

Question is why is justice selective why not talk about those

This advocate is spining a story, he is going to slip up, trying to make a crime a donation.😮

This guy is something else, no soul...

You sound Confused Mr mpofu.

@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki

Ай бұрын

Akere you ask for donation so what

@user-vm9zu4vg9l

Ай бұрын

@@TlhalefangBenjaminMoleleki 😂😂😂

@0761ZoRO

Ай бұрын

It's because you have not studied law that's why you can't follow Mpofu's line of reasoning.To us lawyers, Mpofu is the most sensible of the three.

@mphomangole3768

Ай бұрын

Sure, he said there's nothing new. Well at first no money obtained from vbs and now they got a donation. So what.

@lizzynthoroane1312

Ай бұрын

Dali Mpofu the people's advocate Cannot be confused I think u are😂

What is he trying to say/Mpofu?😂

@mduduzithabede1999

Ай бұрын

He’s a chance taker…

When they send a SILC/advocate to be a spokesperson, you must know things are bad.

Malema and friend is guilty

@Blue_Rise

Ай бұрын

calm down judge😂😂

@sonialebron752

Ай бұрын

@@Blue_Rise 😀

@nomalungelongcete5875

Ай бұрын

​@@Blue_Rise Hahahaaaaa "judge"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

EFF busy Nye Nye Nye Nye while the are stealing from poor

According to the EFF leadership, those monies paid by VBS was for consultancy. Mr mphofu is now talking about donations??

@aarongunnz9513

Ай бұрын

Di wa makgolela

@petrosdlamini1761

Ай бұрын

And matodzi said it was a donation

@balenidumisani296

Ай бұрын

Again you guys are mixing up the whole thing as a result of the propaganda by Pauli

@craigclifton7254

Ай бұрын

Pieter Groenewald wag Vir hulle

@nakedikhei7883

Ай бұрын

​@😅aarongunnz9513

They sent Mpofu because clumsy and stupid Pambo, Sinawo Thambo and Ndlozi couldn't handle this one. You should know there's a real problem when they send Mpofu to spin

@mlungisimasinda7117

Ай бұрын

The problem are people with weak minds like you first 6 Millions is nothing to 1billion doneted to cr17 the problem is not vbs gogo thing the problem is the land issue eff got nothing compared to what other people looted and I m happy that they himself said it that it was a donation and a loan so it's up to you how you take it yes vbs should collapse so that nextime if black wants to start their bank they should us vbs as an example

Mpofu said you can take stolen money? Well, if you do, you will be liable to pay that back. Mpofu, you are a disgrace!

@mfundimkhize3137

Ай бұрын

If I steal money & go buy food at Pick & Pay must P&P return it because it’s stolen? Which law is that? Please point me to it.

@MasechabaLekgoane

Ай бұрын

​@@mfundimkhize3137i can tell you are part of the 9% idiots who voted for EFF😅

Sounds guilty😅

Dali crashing out sad

What amount did they receive,Dali???? The dude just hid from answering

@bhekienxumalo

Ай бұрын

Why should he reveal the amount. It was a donation we have to learn listen. Why not accused the anc guy .

@Luwi-Molefe6850

Ай бұрын

Why don't you ever ask the ANC and DA the amounts and donations they receive? Hypocrite!!!

@GothamNightmareFiles

Ай бұрын

@@Luwi-Molefe6850 wena go home

@craigclifton7254

Ай бұрын

@@Luwi-Molefe6850 Anc is implicated! This was a donation using and bankrupting black African pensioners! Ask the pensioners if they don't need to know who stole their money! Africa will never be a prosperous country because people like you hero worship corrupt leaders and the more they steal from you the more you worship them.they know they are leading fools

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Dali Mpofu is all over the place

You remember Arthur Fraser's affidavit on Ramaphosa about Phala Phala's matter? The EFF leaders jumped over everyone to tell President Ramaphosa to resign but now here comes the VBS affidavit on the EFF leaders. We want them to prove their innocence at the court of law and we're not saying they are guilty but they need to prove themselves they have nothing to do with looting poor people's money at the collapsed VBS mutual bank. If they are real care about black people of this country, they need to do the right thing.

@aarongunnz9513

Ай бұрын

Go thata banna we 😮😮😮

@tlhaketaioe1601

Ай бұрын

The affidavit of Mr Fraser had evidence, but this affidavit of Matodzi doesn't have evidence. We have seen before the affidavit of Mentor and Jonas comes without evidence and never stood. But you will learn and start to jump one day. Furthermore the Phala Phala will be back and tested in Court and you will see how powerful is the affidavit with evidence.

@Mystry_mo

Ай бұрын

Wait is this on leaders or on the party itself? Im confused

There’s evidence

Mpofu is lying. Matdopzi says it was a bribe , not a donation.

My wife she did work many year at front desk at VBS. She say to me many time Brain Shivambu he was ther for private meeting in board room and he open company account ther . 😮

@mogauledwaba9629

Ай бұрын

Yooh

@nakedikhei7883

Ай бұрын

Will your wife be available as a witness in court or has she reported to the relevant authorities? - I know that the state pays lip service to whistle blowing

@nellysitshinga4535

Ай бұрын

Neh haa haa😮

@mogauledwaba9629

Ай бұрын

@@nellysitshinga4535 eish don't put engkinge zee Eff

@kingslymbongeni3309

Ай бұрын

Why would you place your wife in danger 😢? What if they come after her ? Is she willing to be a witness?

I’m sorry Mr Mpofu is trying to defend the indefensible here, he doesn’t even sound like an advocate. The other guy makes a lot of sense he’s very articulate.

@prewgeeq7416

Ай бұрын

True

@tdibetso8853

Ай бұрын

Really? OK.

@fireball6302

Ай бұрын

True

@andrewsidelo8221

Ай бұрын

Then why not say in the affidavit, I bribed eff or eff asked for hush money. Why not write it plainly in an affidavit that is implicating the eff?

@fortunemthethwa6251

Ай бұрын

Why hasn't the law enforcement charged the EFF leaders, bcz this thing been going on 4 years 😢

That's lie's the know everything they must go to Court of Justice 😮

@NokuthulaKhumalo-sb2le

Ай бұрын

Did you call for Marcus Josster to go to court for scandal of GEPF buyer's call for phalaphala too

@biko8229

Ай бұрын

Some people are just too gullible, are you a lawyer?

@Blue_Rise

Ай бұрын

Just drink black label you'll be fine we understand😂

@craigclifton7254

Ай бұрын

​@@biko8229 Are you? Don't have to be a lawyer to know a lie!

@dineshanpillay5944

Ай бұрын

Stay focused delinquent, this video is about the vbs looters​@NokuthulaKhumalo-sb2le

Xoli is way too soft and respectful. Allowing Mpofu to promulgate the EFF lies.

@andrewsidelo8221

Ай бұрын

Xoli has been schooled numerous times by the eff. Infact he trends for that only.So he knows better 2ndly, Mpofu correctly spoke to what was said in the affidavit and not unbiased interpretation and speculation which then answers why The EFF was never charged. Remember Floyd's borther was already in court, it would have been an easy case for the NPA. 3rdly SACP asked for money, EFF was offered a donation as per the affidavit.

@ShawnRademeyer

Ай бұрын

@@andrewsidelo8221 Watch this space. The wheels of justice turn slowly. Now the accusations can't be ignored by NPA and high powered politicians. 😉

@silaskhalishwayo

Ай бұрын

​@@ShawnRademeyer to black people 😂😂😂😂white can do whatever

@balenidumisani296

Ай бұрын

So he was supposed to do what, call Adv Mpofu on Studio and then stop him from speaking?

@andrewsidelo8221

Ай бұрын

@@ShawnRademeyer did you even listen to Mpofu explain how this works legally? Take off ur I hate EFF for a second. 1. Unlike other political parties, he offered donations to the EFF, not illegal. 2. Supposedly there was a bribe, the affidavit was made with a plea deal in mind and not from a reliable source.NPA will do favors for ANC BUT NEVER EFF. NPA could have long charged the eff but they have no evidence. An affidavit from a plea deal is not credible evidence.

Dali can't argue factually in courts, same is true in newsroom

A sad day in SA when a respectable Adv. Mpofu stands up using legal jargon to protect some seriously questionable behaviour from his senior party members. He can do as much fancy footwork as he wants on the matter, EFF accepting a "donation" in the name of a company held by Brian Shivambu (which Julius and Floyd both admitted they never received for any reason) is extremely suspect.Notice how Mpofu didn't answer the question as to why monies were paid into a privately held company. Money paid back, yes. When? Probably after scandal. As a fan of @SMWX, it will be interesting to see how or if Sizwe scrutinizes Dali's perfect legal rebuttle and very blatant avoidance. If this isn't dealt with the way it would have been if this was any other party then another channel must be binned.

@audreycornelius2231

Ай бұрын

@SMWX went AWOL... 😅

@XPR2019

Ай бұрын

He answered why money was directed through the brother of Floyd, that was a loan to the brother not to the EFF. Listening is a skill mate.

@SergioP503

Ай бұрын

@@XPR2019 Absolutely, but so is contextual understanding and nuance ...

@mzeewandembonyirongo2972

Ай бұрын

😂​@@audreycornelius2231

@zamokuhllukhele3713

Ай бұрын

Yes, listening is a skill and not selective listening. people's hate for EFF is astounding. When CR 17 1 billion donation is not sent and subjected to public scrutiny it's okay but if it's EFF offered donation it becomes a crime because it went via Shivambi's company bank account. Double standards of note.

Nothing new? Mr. Red hat must be living in an alternate reality. Did he also share the 'donations'?

@petrosdlamini1761

Ай бұрын

Welcome to the white collar crimes, using legal ways to steal

@audreycornelius2231

Ай бұрын

He definitely benefited too

Mpofu is a scam

@mduduzithabede1999

Ай бұрын

A scammer turned lawyer

There is smoke here!

This man has no basis for his comments.

EFF criticizing the Zuma loan in turn you accept a donation. EFF was offered a donation whereas ANC ask for a donation. What exactly if Dali Mphofu saying? Why did EFF open an account only to receive donation? The Adv. is tying everything possible to play with words here. Why the tale money that belongs to the poor people. This is absurd!

@biko8229

Ай бұрын

Doesn't seem like you heard a word that was said in this video, shem

@Sillymawena

Ай бұрын

Wowwww malema and shivambu say they never sat with the man,this advocate is turning things around, like the toy gun story,we not all gullible 😂😂😂

Most overrated advocate in SA. I wouldn’t hire this guy even if he offered his services for free🤣

If it was legal why did they backdate a contract ??

@ikgothule6463

Ай бұрын

Q simple question......what a question

@ralphmakombe1735

Ай бұрын

Why didn't you arrest Phala Phala also?

Parliament’s joint committee on ethics and members’ interests has found EFF deputy president Floyd Shivambu guilty of breaching the MPs’ code of ethical conduct and disclosure of members interests by failing to disclose the R180,000 of VBS Mutual Bank money he received.

@Sillymawena

Ай бұрын

Wow so nice, 😂😂😂😂

@top-gnews8333

Ай бұрын

But they cannot find ur crook president of the country guilty

@Olcool

Ай бұрын

How do you disclose a loan from your friend? Ethics rules only state that a donation should be declared not a loan.

@Sillymawena

Ай бұрын

@@Olcool hey wena you living in denial, you think we all stupid,

@luvuyowilliams8159

26 күн бұрын

R180 000 appears from that network of money to cover their corruption

How did this guy become an Advocate? He's so contradictory and fails to make a compelling argument.

@aobakweCup326D

Ай бұрын

Bro, this guy is terrible. That is why he is always losing. He is always failing to compile an argument

@ohonefm

Ай бұрын

@@aobakweCup326D It's so bad. The guy sitting next to him is more compelling than a whole advocate? Nah, he's a scam.

@aarongunnz9513

Ай бұрын

​@@ohonefmwhos scam?

@sangenbrugam5051

Ай бұрын

@@aobakweCup326Dexcept that he is considered by his peer in the legal profession as one of the best legal minds this country ever produced.

@LindaMtiya-hb3nv

Ай бұрын

When you are lying and knowing that you are lying it's difficult to be consistent....and confidence dololo

When Dali said, "That's nonsense" I cringed ....haibo guys

@dilochetty9332

Ай бұрын

dali always seaks gibberish and attacks journalists.. that should say it all

A donation would be under the Eff. account, why the side ways payment.? on Malemas interview 4yrs ago he said he had no dealings. yet donations have. have been paid. why was that not disclosed 4yrs ago. that donations monthly donations was being received. if said donation for silencing information that is extortion. you sure you know what saying the right thing. extortion is also a crime. Sorry baba you putting you foot in your mouth. on national TV. Be Better