Before I begin my actual comment, I would like to apologize in advance for my inadequate level of English proficiency. I am not a native speaker of the world's current lingua franca which unfortunately leads to me making numerous embarrassing mistakes being made whenever I attempt to communicate using this language. Whenever I am reminded of how I lack the ability to convey my thoughts in an eloquent manner, I feel as though I have committed a cardinal sin, as though every English teacher in the world is simultaneously shaking their head and sighing due to how utterly disappointed they are at me. Although I know that saying sorry to those of you who are reading my comment will not change the fact that I fail miserably to write and speak perfect English, I am writing this as a way to deter a certain type of people who cannot stand poor English (Also known informally as Grammar Nazis) from mocking me by posting unwanted and unnecessary comments detailing my every blunder. In my humble opinion, making grammatical errors should be perfectly acceptable as native speakers should not expect non-native speakers to be able to communicate in their second or third languages eloquently. If you are able to completely understand what the other person wrote, is there really a problem with what they've written? No, because the entire concept of communication is the exchange of information between other intelligent beings, which means that no matter how the exchange of information is made, as long as the information is accurately shared there is not a fundamental issue with their ability to communicate. To see it in another way, remember that someone who isn't fluent in English is fluent in another language. When you think about it this way, isn't it impressive for someone to speak a second language in any capacity? Having empathy and respect are qualities that are sorely missing for far too many people these days, especially on the internet. That being said, I am aware that not all netizens who correct others are doing it to ridicule and shame. There are some who do so with the intent to help others improve and grow. However, displaying the failures of other people publicly will cause the person who is criticized to feel negative emotions such as shame and sadness due to the fact that their mistake has been made obvious which severely undermines the point they were trying to make in spite of their unfamiliarity with the English language. In most circumstances people are not looking for language help when they post anything online. Most people just want to enjoy themselves and have a good time on the internet which is why I would not encourage correcting other people regardless of your intentions. If you really do want to help others with their spelling or grammar, I would highly recommend you to help via messaging privately because not only will you not embarrass anyone, you can also go more in-depth with your explanation which I'm sure the other person will greatly appreciate if they want help, but I digress. I know that I've written a bit of an essay, but I hope I've made my points clear. Anyways, here is the comment I wanted to make: shid And coom,

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Dankeschön for your attention.

@uuddlrlrbas9904

Жыл бұрын

4/10

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

@@uuddlrlrbas9904 What if I add some extra fries to it?

@uuddlrlrbas9904

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi 7/10

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

@@uuddlrlrbas9904 Now, that's better.

Read the title as EFAP vs Crackhead and I thought I missed the best efap ever

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

I'd play to see that EFAP.

@TheSlammurai

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that EFAP #93?

@miep3934

Жыл бұрын

I thought that was EFAP vs Remarkable Republican

@happybirthdaypaulie8584

Жыл бұрын

You forget about Jared?

@testname5042

Жыл бұрын

So far EFAP 100 is the best, despite much competition.

Cracked: "Tolkien totally hated Jewish people, guys!" Tolkien, in a 1938 letter to a German publisher, who asked if he was an aryan: "I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by 'arisch.' I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-iranian... But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people."

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@Insomnolant1335

3 ай бұрын

Yup. He was a wretched philosemite.

I love how Tolkien is *NOW* portrayed as the bad guy, since he is now dead and there’s a new show that butchers his original design.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Only the elite retards do that. The true followers, the actual Tolkien fanbase would follow him to the end. As well as the majority of same beings.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

He was too white and too Christian, probably.

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi and too talented. Nobody in hollywood can match him, so plan b is to simply cancel him and pretend that's enough....

"The enemy? His sense of duty was no less than yours, I deem. I wonder what his name is, where he came from. And if he was really evil at heart. What lies or threats led him on this long march from home. If he would not rather have stayed there in peace.... War will make corpses of us all." - Faramir in the TTT, but in the book it was sam. Journalists who had never read the book, or failed to see the context of the messaging, just so they could make a hit piece, to get attention, because they have a worthless agency which has no real accomplishments other than forcing their moral supremacy onto others.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes truth just gets in your way...

When you're so woke you do a full 180 and make racist statements thinking that you're defending said group

@SuperMegaGaelourde

Жыл бұрын

Whoa whoa whoa! You can't ban women from wearing tank tops in school! ............ Wtf are they doing reading? Send them home, their delicate goddess brains can't handle education, they should be getting worshipped by men while staying home and feeling free and liberated to have sex, babies, sandwich making, and bare feet.

@DiZtheJedi

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that what Horseshoe Theory is? You go so far, you circle back around to what you were avoiding?

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

How the turns have tabled...

Hobbiton and the Shire were meant reflect Tolkien's idyllic perception of pre-industrial England, it has nothing to do with paganism.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Speaking as a Catholic myself (like professor Tolkien), me and my friends would love to live like Hobbits and none of us are earth-worshipping pagans…

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Hello, fellow follower of the Pope.

@mrdropkicker1

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi Deus Lo Vult, Deus Ex Machina

@jamesb.russell2942

Жыл бұрын

Based Cathbros, Deus Vobiscum.

@mrdropkicker1

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesb.russell2942 et cum spiritum tuo

@TCZ17090

Жыл бұрын

Catholic supremacy!

Most Tolkien scholars see the gold-loving avarice of the Dwarves as Norse. They are in many ways hyper-Norse. An honor-based, rune-smithing, gold-loving society of bearded warriors and craftsmen. Tolkien simply removes their seafaring nature and makes them miners.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the gold loving stuff is humanity in general.

@pipgang8566

Жыл бұрын

The most Jewish thing about them is really their vague philosophy towards religion and their diasporic nature, and only in certain ways. Even then; theres clearly some Christian influence as well - "... The shadow lies upon his tomb | In Moria, In Kazahd-Dūm | There lies his crown in waters deep | 'Til Durin wakes again from sleep..." Its clearly a creative amalgam to the point where its not even accurate to call it a caricature of anything. They're something new entirely... more than a sum of their parts

@xenophon5354

Жыл бұрын

@@pipgang8566 Very true. Like all things they have clearly inspired histories but are an amalgam.

@FrostyMountain-wo3kl

2 ай бұрын

Someone I know pointed out that in Norse mythology the dwarves were mostly likely Mediterranean miners from a while back. Just picture Mario and Luigi and it all makes sense lol

Video is called “why lord of the rings is racist” and yet race is never mentioned the entire video, it’s about religion.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

To this very day people are unsure whether that video was serious or just some poorly executed joke.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Funny thing is, these people use race like it's our world. Ie black, white and Asian, whereas the people in Middle Earth see race as what you are (Dwarf, Elf, Human) so racism there is more like what Gimlis people thought of elves. In the races themselves there really is no racism between them, they don't see colour as different to them. They would hate turncoats (Gondorians and Rohirrim to Southrons, Harad people and the Mountain men)but wouldn't hate them because of skin colour.

Where ever Wolf is I hope he's happy.

@EmptyAltruism

Жыл бұрын

That nigga in jail

@vlover15OO

Жыл бұрын

Eatting pizza no doubt

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

He seems to have a very irritable personality, so he's probably still getting angry at something right now.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Probably much happier not dealing with this shit.

Here's an additional "telltale bit". Cracked classifies Easterlings and humans in separate categories 😬 ... Oof...

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

As Bilbo Baggins once said "That's racist."

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Thats a special kind of retarded. And also special kind of retarded racism.

@Lobsterwithinternet

Жыл бұрын

You're kidding me.

I watched this video as a teen and didnt really let it bug me. But coming back to it the whole thing just hinges on stereotypes to justify its explanation. So ironically, Cracked is just being extremely racist in an attempt to caricaturize Tolkien as though he also thought this way. The Elves are such an egregious example because apparently liking nature and having curved weapons means ur a buddist and your weapon is a katana?? And they're so agile, like those "kung-fu fightin' asians". They appeal to stereotypes that didn't even exist in Tolkien's day...

@Kernwadi

11 ай бұрын

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No wonder Cracked went out of business

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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My favourite line of Lotr is when Boromir said "Free will is a myth! Religion is a joke."

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

[*]

25:18 Wolf's amazing rant against Cinematic Venom

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

🦏🥛

@gleeman959

Жыл бұрын

*Cinema Virgin

This is probably why Tolkien was not a fan of alligory

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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19:55 Those aren't the Easterlings, they're the Haradrim!! They don't even know what they're talking about!

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Man they're stupid aren't they?

@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954

6 ай бұрын

They also straight up forgot the Dunlenders. Not mentioned by name in the movie, but I think they're the humans Saruman is encouraging to attack Rohan.

@joedredd1168

6 ай бұрын

@@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 Yes the Dunlendings, also known as the Wildmen of Dunland, they're somewhat based upon Brittonic speaking celts (like the Welsh or Cornish) whom were bitter enemies of the Rohirrim.

Apparently, the LOTR books were written in stages between 1937 and 1949, with the Hobbit having been published in 1937. It'd be a mighty big stretch to say that Tolkien based the dwarves on the Jews and created an allegory to their extermination when Tolkien probably wrote the Dwarvish language before the horrors of the Holocaust were common knowledge, especially since the Hobbit book was mostly about the dwarves. Hell, plenty of critics say WWI was a big inspiration for Tolkien's work, not WWII

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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@David_the_Psalmist

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Tolkien also probably knew a lot of Jewish history. I think it's fair to say he read the Bible extensively, and was probably familiar with other Jewish texts and the works of historians like Josephus. It's not that much of a stretch for him to make characters in his world that are vaguely similar to Jewish people. To call that an "antisemitic caricature" for that reason alone is preposterous.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Of course. Didn't he serve in WW1? If true then yes, it would play a big part, just like it did for millions of people. But sadly people are either too stupid or malicious to even recognise that. All these books yet not a single ounce of intelligence from these people.

@pipgang8566

Жыл бұрын

@@RhysCallinan-ix5lg More than just served in ww1, served on the first wave of the battle of the somme; one of the deadliest engagements in the war. Iirc, only half of the British soldiers on the first day were alive by sunrise or some mind boggling number such as that. The world came inches away from losing a legendary artist

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

@@pipgang8566 Man we were lucky. To think of the world without his works is horrible.

8:58 The Lord of the Rings says the exact OPPOSITE about the Hobbits! Gandalf is constantly praising them for their sturdy will and constitution in the face of the Ring’s manipulation!

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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i can say for certain the original video was not meant as a parody, because they made the same mistake all the critics with no familiarity with the books make : They don't know the difference between Tolkien and Jackson The complain about the Easterlings looking middle eastern, and therefore 'muslim'.... that's a Jackson thing. The Easterlings in Tolkien were far more russo-slavic, and very multi-cultural. For logistical purposes they simplified them in the films so the costume department could produce enough weapons and armor for them. A lot of their complaints are based on the aesthetics of the movies and have nothing to do with what Tolkien wrote If this was supposed to be a parody, they'd have found someone who knew fuck-all about Tolkien to write it.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

ツ

god i hadnt realized how much i missed Moriarty’s laugh

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

His laugh is very indiscriminate, he laughs at everything.

Tolkien was a linguist and it is pretty cool that he actually put all the work in the fictional languages he made by drawing from real life cultures. As a Jewish person, I don't find it offensive or antisemitic whatsoever

@possiblepuzzles8137

Жыл бұрын

Darndest thing, people get up in arms to any allusion to depth and nuance of the father faith, yet will casually toss in any characeture that make it seem lesser (claiming that it's "expected").

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

,

@ericmarley7060

Жыл бұрын

"I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by 'arisch.' I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-iranian... But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people." - Tolkien to a Nazi German publisher who asked if he was an "Aryan." "But Tolkien totally hated Jewish people, guys!" - Cracked

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

​@@ericmarley7060 They also claim Rowling was too because of the goblin stuff when she specifically tried to get rid of the Star of David from the bank they used in the movie to avoid that. But stupid people are stupid.

“Well, if there's anything that I know about philosophers it's that they love to agree with each other all the time...” -Rags

Yay, Wolf.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Don but not forgotten...

4:21 Sorry to play _that guy,_ but only Tolkien was Catholic; C. S. Lewis was Anglican (to Tolkien’s dismay). That nitpick aside, why is this video titled “6 Reasons The Lord of the Rings Is Racist” when it’s discussing religion? Cracked _does_ know race and religion aren’t the same thing, right? Right?

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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There’s no such thing as a coincidence. The fact that you’re reading this means that we’re energetically alligned.

@pepto8718

Жыл бұрын

*cue the music*

@grandarkfang_1482

Жыл бұрын

Do you believe in gravity?

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

@@grandarkfang_1482 Sometimes.

From my experience I’m usually having to explain to Protestants that yes, we Catholics are in fact Christian.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Even better, the original ones.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that, like, common knowledge? Not only were they the first religion started by the West (well, third after the Jewish three religions founded before and after the fall of Jerusalem by the Babylonians as well as the ones founded shortly before the Romans came around) so it stands to reason they would be. I mean, I'm not religious, I stopped believing at 12, but I've read enough to know that simple fact. So it's kinda odd Protestants wouldn't know that. Guess they don't get educated about history.

"Objectivity is objective, in my subjectively subjective opinion." -Bilbo Baggins

I feel obliged to report the video for child abuse after Wolf’s rant on CV.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Understandable, I'll submit to the authorities.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

No it's more Retarded Abuse. Even a child is smarter than this guy. Smarter than a disabled person for sure

@RhysCallinan-bv1wi

3 ай бұрын

Sometimes you need a bit of child abuse to make the world turn - Bilbus Boggins 112 B/AE (After EFAP)

the closed captions for this video alone are better than the video from Cracked

@Kernwadi

3 ай бұрын

Danke for your nice words.

In light of certain events, I really hope Wolf and Cinematic Venom come on for EFAP #300. Never expected CV to actually take it on the chin and mature. His video was hilarious.

@Kernwadi

3 ай бұрын

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"Triangles are cool, squares are not cool." -MauLer

7:24 So far what I’m getting is that these two believe Token from South Park wrote Lord of the Rings and that Pagans are plotting against us surface dwellers from beneath the ground 😂 everything they say makes my head canon of their view on reality funnier and funnier.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Cracked wouldnt be able to make this video now a days with how the discourse has change.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Let's be real here: we are here to listen to Wolf ranting about CinemaVirgin.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Now this is one crack I don’t want to hit.

Fun fact, “Arabic” numerals(primarily the concept of 0) came from India and the Christian west started using them before the Islamic world did.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Jesus wins again!

Dwarves are based and Elves are cringe.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

Or: The Younglings vs. The Remains of Seanbaby (and the Younglings won). "Good times" - Me.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Is this sexual harassment?

came for bad LOTR takes, stayed for Wolf complaining about Domino's pasta

@Kernwadi

2 ай бұрын

Pasta is an important part of life, especially if you're Itallian.

There were only 3 good writers at Cracked that I remember, but they were mostly hacks that would talk make stupid arguments about how x thing from popular movie is actually racist\sexist. It was the first place I noticed what would soon be known as wokeness.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

I only learned about them once they were already garbage.

40:30 the reason elves came to aid mankind at helms deep was because aragorn had given elrond hope, how can they say that the elves are christians in this instance

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Even after all this time, the "PENES HOT DOG" joke, showed me that a joke (even when I've watched this before) can cause a part of me to die...

@Kernwadi

3 ай бұрын

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I always wonder how old Moriarty is, I'm not sure.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Cracked: "Dwarves are Jews" Me: "Based"

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

I'm partially Jewish and Dwarves are my favourite fantasy race, so I agree.

@huguesdepayens807

2 ай бұрын

@@Kernwadi Oy vey any relatives that were apart of the holocaust?

Remember, Cracked are the same dipshits who saw Firefly and came away with the notion that the Browncoats were the bad guys.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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My worst puns are better than Cracked. And my worst pun is SO awful that I won't repeat it without literally being paid, because it's so awful that you must suffer a second way for having it inflicted upon the world. It's like watching children trying to repeat adult jokes without understanding the jokes. Also, impersonating Gollum is almost never funny unless it's a playfully sarcastic "My precious!" WITHOUT the choking voice.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Well Tolkien was Catholic, C.S. Lewis was Protestant.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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ooh if doing more cracked on lotr the after hours is great too

@Kernwadi

10 ай бұрын

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Love efap

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Sex?

I personally like dwarves much more than I like jewish people, and I must confess, these two definitely don't make me like jewish people more, quite the opposite.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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That 'humor' is painful...

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Cracked is still a thing???

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Apparently not.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

​@@Kernwadi I'm thinking of a committed relationship myself. I'm in this for the long haul.

To be fair, Tolkien did admit that he did base the Dwarfs off of Jewish people. Though it doesn't mean they're antisemitic depictions. Nor did he intend to draw a fully direct depiction. Lord of the Rings is meant to be an escape from the world around you. Sure, some parts of the world are going to seep in, but not in an allegorical sense. Tolkien hated that and never wanted it. So fuck off if your taking this part overly seriously.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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@kregy7509

Жыл бұрын

Where did he say that? Because I am quite sure they have more in common with the Nordic people, except the seafaring.

@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954

6 ай бұрын

​@@kregy7509 for full context, Tolkien said that he wanted the dwarves to have a richly engrained culture and history, something he associated with Jewish people (oral traditions, language, etcetera). He saw this as a positive thing.

@kregy7509

6 ай бұрын

@@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 sure, but didn't he see that in every culture? That's not exclusive to Jews. All ornamentations and runes of dwarves as well as the name itself is nordic. Even the craftsmanship is something from sagas. I just don't see the Jewish culture in this

Hi

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Dzień dobry.

@9rium74-75

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi Hyvää iltapäivää.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

@@9rium74-75 Are you trying to summon a demon?

@9rium74-75

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi no. I’m Finnish.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

@@9rium74-75 Understandable. But what did you finish?

Saying Lord of the Rings is Christian is bafflingly ignorant

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

It's still kinda unsure whether they were kinda trolling or 100% serious so...

@martinguerra5152

Жыл бұрын

Are you calling Tolkien bafflingly ignorant? The Lord of the Rings' is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out practically all references to anything like 'religion,' to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and symbolism Letter to his close friend and Jesuit priest, Robert Murray

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

@@martinguerra5152 Bo Tolkien dobrym katolikiem był.

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

Exactly it's got religious themes but it isn't fully a Christian story. It's a story Tolkien created using his experiences and beliefs of the World to write down a history that could fill the void of history that was lost during the dark ages.

If you like Lord of the Rings, you don't like entertainment

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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What is this cringe?

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

Ulumulu.

@shamrockdragon7634

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi How can anyone watch the LotR movies or read the books and think this? Also pronouncing Tolkien as token should be a sin.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

@@shamrockdragon7634 Some people just make it their mission to look for problems.

@shamrockdragon7634

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi true

@RhysCallinan-ix5lg

Жыл бұрын

A cringe to surpass Metal Gear. But seriously it's most likely a pathetic attempt to get clicks and anger people for vile reasons.

What a sad thing to see nerds this oblivious and possessive of such a boring story

@Kernwadi

3 ай бұрын

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This keeps me from loving EFAP because they are just rude to people. “Hurt people hurt people” is the vibe I get from EFAP, especially Wolf. Mauler seems the most respectful.

@Kernwadi

3 ай бұрын

Sometimes being rude is justified.

Is this what it's like to get old? Realizing that all EFAP dies is insult people at random? I listened to so many shows, but now they irritate me more than the fools they cover.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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so cancel is a dumb word for it. call it something better.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

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Good stuff, though cracked is being more ironic than they're giving them credit for.

@Kernwadi

Жыл бұрын

It was kinda hard to tell.

@mycaleb8

Жыл бұрын

@@Kernwadi Eh, it's a problem with the EFAP crew.

@Hexensohn

Жыл бұрын

Ehhhh. I've heard some of these before. Actually I read a writing advice article recently that explicitly stated to avoid using dwarves in your work because they're rooted in antisemitic tropes. I'm more inclined to think the ironic tone is to shield against criticism of their garbage opinions than it is to indicate they're trolling with said garbage opinions.

@mycaleb8

Жыл бұрын

@@Hexensohn Yes, but I've also watched the video. At the end, the critic loses and frustratedly admits defeat. The intent is to start a "discussion" but it cakes the arguments in irony to avoid culpability for being wrong. The irony is also to make it clear that the arguments aren't meant to be taken very seriously. It's still a terrible video, and is basically just a collection of critiques of Tolkien that are clearly not understood by the creators of the video who've clearly never even read the book.

@sewerface

5 ай бұрын

@TheDeusExMachina it’s only hard to tell b/c you nerds are aggressively oblivious

Ok, but it is an unfortunate historical fact that a lot of depictions of Dwarves, Goblins and even Gnomes in old fantasy and fairy tales are derived from anti-Semitic images and stereotypes. And that’s not me projecting a subconscious anti-semitic stance onto these archetypes nor saying that Tolkien or Jackson realised them. You’re not bigoted for recognising a bigoted stereotype, regardless of the intention of the author.

@martinguerra5152

Жыл бұрын

Far from fact the norse depiction of dwarves predates those early-modern anti semitic stereotypes. just like the depiction of ogres (on who the orcs are based on) predates stereotypes of black people. on both those points is very hard to think Scandinavians were thinking of jews just like anglo Saxons weren't thinking in Sub-Saharians, or even knew too much of them for that matter.

@Kernwadi

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@edwardreed67

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@@martinguerra5152 Ok, but Tolkien didn't just take inspiration from Norse myth. He also took it from European fairy tales, heck even wrote a few himself.

@martinguerra5152

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@@edwardreed67 i feel that backs my point. medieval fairy tales predate modern stereotypes. Where is the jewish stereotypes in Nordic sagas, anglosaxon poems or Finnish myths? arguably the biggest inspirations for Tolkien

@edwardreed67

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@@martinguerra5152 I never said their were jewish stereotypes in Nordic sagas, but to say they're "modern" stereotypes is a bit off. Nordic myth aren't necessarily medieval, though they were written down and catalogued in the middle ages. During the middle ages is when a lot of Jewish people migrated to many germanic regions in what is now Europe. Its around this time period that many of what are now classic fairy tales were being created, particularly those catalogued by the brothers Grimm, and in those there are a lot of Jewish stereotyping, including what is now known as blood libel. It is from these stereotypes that were derived the looks of many fantasy characters, such as wizards and witches with pointy hats reflecting Jewish travellers wearing the Pileus Cornutus, and it can be presumed that many half-remembered mythological beings and creatures of legend were artificially linked to those of Jewish people in order to degrade and stereotype them