EFAP TV: Reacting to Loki Season 2 Episode 4 ∙ Heart of the TVA
Kang dies in this one too, I don't even... like why... where is uhh they don't do uhhhh. Edited by Fringy
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@Sokko3255 ай бұрын
"You'll never be him" He was a random inventor from Chicago less than a day ago, that means nothing to him.
@nont18411
5 ай бұрын
Plus “him” isn’t even that good.
@HectorLopez0217
5 ай бұрын
“You’ll never be HIM”
@charlesruteal9062
5 ай бұрын
That line would only work if he was played by Ryan Gosling.
@bbjygm
5 ай бұрын
Him who remains
@Invalidcookie-bv4cx
5 ай бұрын
The thing is, it worked. she goated him into going to fix the loom by himself. Had she not said that, I don't think he would have.
@michelleadams56095 ай бұрын
"I promise you, this will make sense."-Loki. Always the trickster.
@nhagan001
5 ай бұрын
I wonder what is an upgrade to “god of mischief”? God of bullshit?
@HectorLopez0217
5 ай бұрын
Is that true, Loki? You a little trickster?
@ascended1924
5 ай бұрын
Apparantly, God of Stories. No fking clue what that means.@@nhagan001
@bilson75235 ай бұрын
The "speech" Sylvie gave in response to Mobius wanting pie really bothered me. Not only is it ridiculous because the previous scene made clear the team is just waiting for the technobabble to be done, but this is the exact same woman that didn't want to leave her McDonalds job in the 1980s at the start of the season because she literally didn't care anymore... And Mobius isn't proposing they leave, its literally a moment of levity while they wait to go on their dangerous mission. No wonder this show doesn't make sense, the writers can't remember what happened two episodes ago, how on earth can they remember what happened two years ago. This must be why Sylvie is so insufferable, she's not a character, she's a McMuffin.
@Coconut-2195 ай бұрын
Modern Disney is like a really incompetent vampire hunter: 'No Stakes'
@jlev1028
5 ай бұрын
I dread how they'll handle Blade then.
@jsostick
3 ай бұрын
1¹¹a@@jlev1028
@perchperkins67205 ай бұрын
They went back in time to ask the creator of the temporal loom for advise on how to upgrade the current one. Can you imagine a group on NVIDIA developers traveling back in time to ask Alan Turing for how to build a graphics card?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
Yes, if the graphics card would only work when it recognised Alan’s aura. 😂
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
I'd imagine if you taught Alan Turing everything about modern computer engineering, he'd come up with some pretty good ideas. Dude was a genius.
@XenoSpyro
5 ай бұрын
Turing would say "Adding more Vram might work, try that."
@slaapt
5 ай бұрын
Dude might have been a genius, but modern chipsets are so complex there isn't a single person alive who could tell you in detail how the entire thing worked. My guess is Turing would have contributed nothing because all of it is just to far outside of his conceptual mindspace.
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
@@slaapt eh they could, but you couldn't manually design it all.
@rpger905 ай бұрын
‘I’m from Chicago, I don’t trust ANYONE’ says man from Chicago when it was called the Paris of the West and a massive center of advancement and culture.
@AsperTheGhost
5 ай бұрын
Do you think that modern Disney writers know anything about the complex nature of history and how cities weren't always "liberal" shitholes?
@NoPantsBaby
5 ай бұрын
These people can't write anything that isn't CURRENT DAY CALIFORNIAN SHIT
@samuellund13775 ай бұрын
Kang fell for the oldest trick in the book. A portal to the blender dimension.
@VirtualSatyr5 ай бұрын
I will give Loki season 2 this: Timely Kang getting turned into spaghetti made me laugh harder than anything else in the MCU.
@lordofthepizzapie9319
5 ай бұрын
I didn't feel anything when that happened. It was a meaningless scene in a sea of meaningless scenes.
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
Harder than Wanda turning Reed Richards into spaghetti or about the same?
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 way harder. That was just fucked up for no reason
@VirtualSatyr
5 ай бұрын
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 It was that pathetic scream he made.
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
It was like out of a comedy. “We’re desperate and it’s all on you. Surely this’ll wo-“ *gets spaghettified*
@PanzerblitzRnR5 ай бұрын
Fringy singing Hall and Oates is the only thing that brings me joy in life.
@im-on-a-rolla_gay
5 ай бұрын
Ahh damn, I know I’m late but you beat me to it
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
Crazy how his accent seemed to disappear. For a second I didn't know who he was.
@theknightsofawesomeness2701
5 ай бұрын
@im-on-a-rolla_gay you could say that you are out of time
@beginnersmessiah5 ай бұрын
Its funny how nobody has used the endgame time travel mechanic after endgame.
@philippathirlby7040
5 ай бұрын
Oh but that was mEAnT tO haPpEn
@beginnersmessiah
5 ай бұрын
@@philippathirlby7040 yes but nobody after endgame was meant to happen to have that space-time gps?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
In fairness, that only came about because of the combined genius of Tony and Ant Man. One of them is dead, and the other hasn’t been in a situation where he’d need to, and even if he were, they can fall on “I can’t do this without Tony.” Not great but honestly not the worst problem the MCU has. 🤷🏻♂️
@NoPantsBaby
5 ай бұрын
Does it even still work? how did it even work in the first place cause they were timeline hopping with Kang pruning all timelines.
@beginnersmessiah
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 there was an attempt by you to explain it kudos you did more than multi million dollar writers. Not even remotely acceptable but there's an attempt. That said, what IS THE WORST PROBLEM OF MCU - hope we get an efap on that.
@Nokaret5 ай бұрын
Loki: "You can't give people free will and walk away!" Rags: you literally could though.. That does sound like something a god of mischief might do.. so no, we can't have that 😂
@denkerbosu3551
5 ай бұрын
Lucifer Morningstar from DC literally did this.
@CarrionCrow993
5 ай бұрын
2012 Loki would have got a deckchair out and a bucket of popcorn for this sh*t show.
@nymphomata695 ай бұрын
"I promise you, this will make sense" is the new "*desk slam* Whatcha bring me?"
@MajorSmurf5 ай бұрын
No-one : Oh look Ma, it's Kang my all time favourite villain. No-one's Ma's : Who? No-one : Oh Ma, come on, Where you been? it's him from the hit no profit film Termite boy and the something realm.
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
Here's to hoping Jonathan Majors achieves something villainous in some realm
@bZman5 ай бұрын
The Loki show breaks my damn heart because it COULD BE GOOD and Hiddleston is such a talented actor, Hiddleston and Wilson have great chemistry too but the story is just SO MEANDERING!
@slaapt5 ай бұрын
Why he wouldn't look into his own life: he is a variant. The timeline he came for has been pruned. Why would anyone think it still exists to look into?
@unfilthy
5 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I said after the Brad episode, where he wrongly said that there were people left behind. No there weren't, they got pruned. They're acting like pruned timelines suddenly respawned as if nothing happened. But, of course, if timelines can be restored with everyone in them as if nothing happened, then they could just prune everything, fix whatever the loom is, and then restore all those timelines again. The whole thing is stupid.
@slaapt
5 ай бұрын
Ehhhhhhh... Now that I had some time to think, which is probably more effort than I should have put into it... The TVA works across all of time. Which means that some of the pruning would happen in the subjective future from where the timeline started branching again (it would be cool to have a date for that. If it started branching all the way from the start, I want to know if the MCU happened in a branching or non-branching version of the universe). If those prunings now never happen, would that undo the destruction of the timeline? Would that make the variant a RikerClone of the version of him that never got pruned? Or is there still a "pruned" third version of the branch from a single event? Because either that happened, or the TVA agent needs to disappear in a grandfather paradox of epic proportions. Either uncountable trillions of people remain dead, or the TVA agent can't exist as (s)he never got taken for breaking the rules as the rules aren't enforced any longer.
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
5 ай бұрын
@@slaapt My brain hurts...
@pat_back5 ай бұрын
Efap needs more Wesker impressions in general.
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
It's an objective fact that everything becomes better with Wesker impressions.
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
I like the prank call videos where he calls people named Chris
@jackobrien47
5 ай бұрын
Total Wesker saturation
@kylenegaard6461
5 ай бұрын
Time stamp on Video?
@xenohusky59795 ай бұрын
Out of all the stupid things in this season, the one thing that irks me the most is the Loom. This thing simply makes NO sense. What power did Kang pull out of his ass to create something that ensnares the space and time of ALL REALITY? HOW?! The power required for something like this is God-level. And also, you'd think the various gods of the Marvel universes would not stand for a mortal jeopardizing all of existence. The ONLY reason it exists is to turn Loki into the God of Stories or whatever the fuck. Which I have to ask, shouldn't that be the One Above All's (God's) job?
@darkpuppetlordful
5 ай бұрын
Yeah but a shitty modern comic made Loki god of stories once so they are gonna do that to show they are "comic accurate"
@Ace-0f-Spadez
5 ай бұрын
@@darkpuppetlordfulit wasn’t that bad a comic rrly lokis been pretty good overall but if you don’t like complicated stuff or like a lot of a god level power then don’t yk read comics
@sparkypack
5 ай бұрын
It's looming nooming time
@kirathekillernote2173
5 ай бұрын
Don't you know, he has super advanced tech
@PanzerblitzRnR
5 ай бұрын
There's also the questions of "what was the loom doing when there was only one timeline? How do you loom a single string? The timelines have only just began to diverge and it's already breaking down? How did the loom cope with the timelines before they were all pruned into one?"
@tabull81805 ай бұрын
My friend said that this season is great and that he really liked it. I'm worried about his mental health.
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
I'm really curious as to what the fuck he actually likes about it
@hinugundamB
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudiosMaybe he was doing some really strong stuff.
@tabull8180
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudios I can ask next time I see him. Maybe he is just a fan of nice looking sets.
@laileleneirose7966
5 ай бұрын
Perhaps he liked the ending. The ending of season 2 for a lot of people in the final two episode saved the season from being terrible for them. Maybe your friend liked it for similar reasons.
@spacemanspud7073
5 ай бұрын
I have from multiple places that loki season 2 is good, wtf
@nont184115 ай бұрын
13:54 Same vibe as Harley Quinn ranting on Batman for “causing a mental and emotional damage to everyone he knows”. Yeah, the one who caused the whole problems blamed someone else for the consequences of her own actions. Truly a stunning and brave moment. At least DC managed to make people like Harley. Marvel, however, will never be successful at making people like Sylvie.
@giulizpaviz6381
5 ай бұрын
I don't know. After the Suicide Squad game. Harley became quite hated (or at least, that version of Harley)
@isaackane49315 ай бұрын
"No, Diverse Stunning and Brave Whamen. You were the real bestest person! We Wuz Kangz would be nothing without you! You did all the things!" Jesus wept, they really can't help themselves, can they? The sheer desperation to constantly trot out any woman they can to suddenly declare how great they are.
@jcore09815 ай бұрын
Victor Timely was cringe, but that felt really vindictive. He was just some random guy from the 19th century who's pulled into this insane time travel bullshit by a gaggle of morons. And his instinct is to immediately help them. Not only that, but to volunteer to go out into the hellscape of time or whatever. And what's his reward? Screaming in agony while turning into spaghetti. Does Marvel have a fucking fetish at this point of brutally killing good people?
@PrayForTanqueray
5 ай бұрын
But, don't you see? He could become 'He Who Remains Cringe', so all bad things happening to him are justified. And don't forget that he might also go on to steal the accomplishments of a woman. That bastard.
@jcore0981
5 ай бұрын
@@PrayForTanqueray Lol
@emarythomp
5 ай бұрын
Didn’t even think about it. He really just sacrificed his entire life and way of life for the infinite multiverse and it’s treated as a joke…..
@unpopularopinions7407
5 ай бұрын
@@emarythompWas it _meant_ to be funny? I legit can’t even tell
@HishUnderscore5 ай бұрын
36:41 so what else people dont seem to talk about with the celestial sticking out of the earth is that it was growing in the core of the planet so as it was "hatching" it burst through the core and all layers, that planet would have been finished right there...
@puggietaur
4 ай бұрын
technically it wasn't, it is much smaller than earth and just moved to the surface before emerging. However, the earth exploding as shown by Arishem in his visualization of it is an entirely separate process that just happens, so killing Tiamut shouldn't have stopped that, and even if it did, the earth would be badly off in multiple ways due to all the mass Tiamut would be displacing moving from the core to the surface, plus extending beyond the clouds, that much of him sticking out would likely slow earth's rotation
@Longshanks16905 ай бұрын
The most unrealistic and implausible thing about MauLer’s hypothetical episode plot he raised in the beginning is the idea that Sylvie would be crying over Loki. Everything else I could buy but obviously she’d look at dead Loki with a smug look like “How could you let that happen, idiot?” But yeah besides that, perfectly believable prediction for this show. 👍
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
I know this is supposed to be a bit of a joke, but you're completely right...
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudiosIt’s all a bit of a joke 🫠🫠🫠
@alduinthetyrant5225
5 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, are you the original longshanks, hammer of the scotts, with a changed name or a different person?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@alduinthetyrant5225 That be me. YT forced everyone’s display names in comments to be spaceless a while back lol
@alduinthetyrant5225
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 Makes sense. My name used to have capital letters, but they took it out and I never bothered to fix it.
@Hirome_Satou5 ай бұрын
I have a strong feeling that the entire plot of this season is just an ACAB allegory all over again. "It'd be better to just start from scratch." or "This place can't be better."
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
Most intelligent Mauler fan:
@ciege7486
5 ай бұрын
most intelligent mauler critic:@@Pythagoras180
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
TEAR IT ALL DOWN
@unpopularopinions7407
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180Several journos (favorably) interpreted it that way, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@AsperTheGhost
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180 Mr Biggles? Is that you?
@FeatherRanching5 ай бұрын
It always comes back to the cinematic antichrist, doesn't it? He invented the streaming formula: 1. Mystery boxes 2. Hide behind ambiguity 3. Fan disappointment is irrelevant 4. Who cares: you've already got their money
@Wolf_ManJack5 ай бұрын
I think Loki is an example of how fandom actually poisons the legacy of characters when the primary fandom exists outside of the core demographic - Loki was beloved by tumblr girls for being le evil effeminate heartthrob, so as soon as anyone from that fandom culture had creative control, they of course co-opted him as their ideal version of a character someone else made. Hell, it doesn't even have to be someone with creative control; enough marketing influences, which we know media marketing in general to already primarily seek opinions from that core demo due to city-slicker cultural bias, will lead to the selfsame outcome, nice-boy Loki put down by girlboss self-insert designed to be brave but not conventionally attractive enough to be isolating for that very specific alt-nerd girl audienxe.
@4llfor1
5 ай бұрын
I remember all those girls simping for Loki after Avengers 1. It reminds me of those girls who, after the first Suicide Squad movie, were saying that Joker and Harley were a positive relationship worth emulating. It's people who were fans of these properties but didn't understand them or (more likely) they were fans of their own fanfics and fanfic versions of the characters (Reylo).
@moomyung9231
5 ай бұрын
@@4llfor1 Hey, I was simping but not in a Tumblr way. I wanted my redemption arc, not just bait and switch Loki.
@giulizpaviz6381
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I got the same feeling. I don't think it's a bad thing fangirling over a fictional character, but the creators still needs to put a border between fandom and canon. This Loki in the TV show is not Loki
@HiddenHandMedia
5 ай бұрын
When was Loki effeminate before ?
@unpopularopinions7407
5 ай бұрын
It’s like the Reylo kiss in TROS; they obviously stuck that in at the last minute and everyone knows exactly why
@KelShu5 ай бұрын
Sylphie is just upset because she prefers cake from the Cake Room
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
Underated comment
@kingragnarok73025 ай бұрын
"You'll never be him." So? That means nothing to him. That's like someone telling me "You'll never be like the king of Prussia." Why would I give a fuck???
@nox5555
5 ай бұрын
I mean having a private army of huge dudes marching in silly formations all day long is a pretty rad hobby....
@michelleadams56095 ай бұрын
In what timeline could any character have a decent haircut. I'm not a fan of Sylvie, but they definitely did her dirty.
@moomyung9231
5 ай бұрын
It must be a new ugly thing for woke girls. The EMT from From also got the same hideous haircut in their season 2.
@slaapt5 ай бұрын
Just a small issue with "you can't give people free will and walk away"... Why not? Because they might do something you disapprove of? You need to make sure they make the correct choice? By violence if needed?
@e.c.winner7252
5 ай бұрын
Disney’s writers are all commies, so this take makes sense for them.
@f3ynman44
5 ай бұрын
so ironic lol
@gabbycotto4024
5 ай бұрын
In absolute fairness to the writers, it was pretty clear in context that what Loki meant was “Slyvie, you wanted to free the universe from the TVA railroading history, but doing that means reality is about to collapse under its own weight from the multiverse growing out of control. You have a responsibility to save existence itself from the consequence of your actions and put the multiverse in a stable safe condition, because liberation means nothing if it results in immediate death.” Its badly conveyed because Sylvie is a Mary Sue and pacing no longer exists, but it’s the closest anyone is allowed to get to criticizing her so I’ll take it.
@tomjames96815 ай бұрын
Johnathan playing Kang feels like the cool guy jock trying to pretend to be the weird eccentric nerd having absolutely never even approached the feeling of lacking confidence. It’s kind of a tragic backfire of crafting a charismatic public persona as an actor, like be probably has. He’s just doesn’t know what it’s like to be a little more timid, less assured and nervous. I mean he’s literally paid to convincingly act like other people so it’s failure on his part but it does also suggest miscasting. He does not have the range to play both Kang the conqueror and Timely.
@AppleInk5 ай бұрын
The fact that timelines are physical, not a representation, but actual size/mass is...I don't even--
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
thats probs the only reasonable thing they show here, they are outside of all the 4th dimensional universes in a 5th dimensional universe.
@AppleInk
5 ай бұрын
@@mryellow6918 I guess so, but it's the execution that ruins it completely for me.
@Zzzlol945 ай бұрын
Yay, the return of fan favorite Marvel character, Brad.
@kingofcomedy81155 ай бұрын
"You get all your idea's from comic book villains?" - CHRIIIIIIIIIISSSSS Redfield
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
CHRIS
@nhagan0015 ай бұрын
I haven’t felt so little investment in a series since Legend of Korra destroyed Bending Origins.
@arvatrontheiv2220
5 ай бұрын
I was about to argue how it technically doesn't retcon anything but that doesn't mean its a good origin so yeah. Though I will say that it can be "patched" by showing how those people given bending develop over time, so the transition from those given the abillity to those born with it and having to learn to use it, if that makes sense. Though that hasn't happened so its kind of just cope:(
@nhagan001
5 ай бұрын
@@arvatrontheiv2220I look at it as the world went from even having the possibility to bend, to not having it. It’s like we had exactly a 0% chance to be able to figure out bending before Lion Turtles. Then Lion Turtles came along and now we had a possibility. There was absolutely no way the avatar would have come about without the Lion Turtles giving him the elements. There is no middle ground anymore. Loki is similar. It started out declaring “all the choices and stakes that have gotten our show to this point? Yeah they’ve all been approved by this mythical organization that exists outside of time and space”. I either have to completely pretend Korra and the TVA don’t exist, or have to grapple with the fact that all the stakes of the MCU and ALTA were completely shat on.
@WayoftheFerret5 ай бұрын
"You have to trust us. We don't have time." Owen Wilson You're at the TVA, what does it MEAN to not have time???
@Awakened_Mucacha5 ай бұрын
This show acting like Loki being a God doesn't matter in the TVA. Except, biology doesn't change. He would still be super strong and very durable, sure no magic but the fact he could smack someone across a room should still be a thing.
@bertimusprime7900
5 ай бұрын
Yeah they seem to have forgotten that he's a frost giant, and by extention, so is sylvie.
@zombieneith7
5 ай бұрын
@@bertimusprime7900Forgotten implies they even knew that to begin with. Modern writers don't care at all about the source materiel.
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
i like how they just say no magic, as if they would capture a variant of hulk and could deal with it.
@Sir-Raph5 ай бұрын
_"I promise you this will make sense."_ *-Disney (to audiences) on the state of the MCU.*
@rogerborg5 ай бұрын
Me: "I had pie for breakfast." Sylvie: "So you're saying 'Destroy everything in the multiverse except pie'?"
@archstanton90735 ай бұрын
Since Hall and Oates are feuding, Fringy should join either Darryl or John on tour. They'd make a ton of money.
@Jesus-yp9xx5 ай бұрын
Mauler´s Wesker impression is really good hahahahaha
@jasonpratt51265 ай бұрын
"At this point, if the TVA exploded, I don't even know what that would mean." -- MauLer demonstrates his credentials for being a prophet at the Babylon Bee.
@Hollyclown5 ай бұрын
Didn’t the TVA have a desk drawer full of Infinity Stones? Why would they need the help of 2 prisoners?
@Terriblyexplainingcomics
5 ай бұрын
Infinity stones don’t work outside of their own universes. Something that’s been pretty consistent throughout all marvel continuity funnily enough
@lordofthepizzapie9319
5 ай бұрын
@@Terriblyexplainingcomics Endgame
@Terriblyexplainingcomics
5 ай бұрын
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 still technically in their own universes just a different time, once they put it back in the correct timeline
@Hollyclown
5 ай бұрын
@@Terriblyexplainingcomics is that not what they do in Endgame and What If? Yes they pull the Stones from the past in Endgame, but does that not coincide with the Multi-Universe premise? Does the TVA not have a turn off switch like the one for Magic in this episode?
@Terriblyexplainingcomics
5 ай бұрын
@@Hollyclown only turns into a different universe if they don’t return the stones to their original time or something to that effect. The stones technically aren’t magic as they are simply products of the universe and therefore natural in their aspect.
@brandonchandlerMGnO5 ай бұрын
Took me a minute to remember, but Loki Pruned himself in order to stop his "time-slipping," in the first episode.
@MBS-HomuZombie5 ай бұрын
I like how having a moment to sit down for what might be the last chance to is a bad thing. So, did the evil lady kill the prisoners because they might work with the good guys? It really didn't seem like they were gonna work with either side. Or, why didn't they pretend to agree to work with her so they can get out, armed themselves and then betray her when they get the chance. Also, what reason did Brad have to continue working with the evil ladies once the clock got turned off? Like, he's the one that's armed, i don't see why he wouldn't turn on her. Hell, he might take issue with her killing the other prisoners. Or he could just run away. I could even see the Lokis just asking him to help them because he's just some dude (called Brad) who was forced into working for the evil lady, skipping the whole mind control part which just makes the whole part confusing.
@nont184115 ай бұрын
The only one time that MCU understood that the same person from a different universe isn’t the same person with the original was Gamora in GOTG3.
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
Also in Avengers: Endgame. But ya it stopped with those two.
@malcanth34815 ай бұрын
You know how they have a drawer full of infinity stones? You know how they turned magic back on? Maybe one of those now functional infinitely powerful objects could help do things.
@Longshanks16905 ай бұрын
What the fuck does the TVA even do now? I mean… really, what do they do all day? Like, we see people walking around like it’s an office as if it was business as usual back in S1. There, it made sense - bear with me - there was so much movement in the background because our plot with Loki and Mobius was only one tiny part of this vast organisation with millions of people doing the same. But that’s gone now. The TVA doesn’t melt people anymore, apparently they go out of their way to stop people doing that… so what are they doing? What are people typing about on their computers? What are people walking around for, where are they hoping to go and what are they trying to do? Are they just doing menial bureaucratic work for the sake of doing it because there’s literally nothing else to do? I really can’t imagine a more dystopian hell than that for eternity.
@_juliette_marie_
5 ай бұрын
the idea of them doing menial bureaucratic work for no real reason somehow reminds me of those british prisons with the pointless treadmills. it really sounds like hell.
@raufm.2135
5 ай бұрын
Don't forget about pies. They also eat pies and drink hot coco. So celestially meaningful!
@Calvinosaur
5 ай бұрын
"I promise you, this will all make sense." - Loko Laggins
@electricbayonet25 ай бұрын
5:20 Normally Fringy’s Simpson’s references are the only thing that brings me joy, but now his Hall and Oates cover is also the only thing.
@sparkycjs5 ай бұрын
Happily ignoring this show and watching you guys laugh at it 😂
@silverscorpio245 ай бұрын
It's comforting to know that even people who have seen all of Loki have no idea what's going on.
@Tiltigo5 ай бұрын
The Loom, man... The thing is probably more advanced than a dyson sphere and they're going to have a scientist from the late 1800's or something fix the fucking thing? Also Sylvie is really getting on my nerves every time she opens her mouth.
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
quite literately designed a 5th dimensional sewing machine before the discovery of space time.
@MilkT0ast5 ай бұрын
I actually liked frignys singing
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
frignys is my favourite EFAP guest
@MilkT0ast
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudios 5:20
@aqua968705 ай бұрын
No burger King episode? Aw man
@_juliette_marie_5 ай бұрын
i legitimately can’t tell what they were doing with sylvies hair. it looks like she’s wearing a wig from temu or something
@natetete13795 ай бұрын
For whatever reason studios think that an entire season of a show is 6 to 12 episodes. You could watch the first and last episode of any modern show and not miss anything. Some you could just watch the last episode. Rings of power works if you just watch the last episode.
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
It’s because they spend way more money per episode than typical TV shows. In other cases if it happens without huge CG budgets, it’s probably because they just want “content” and aren’t willing to invest in case a show doesn’t hit it off. Or not to whatever their standards are. This was a problem before streaming was ubiquitous too. A ton of shows would get a debut season in the Fall with 12-24 episodes, and be cancelled before the next Fall.
@phonepunk78885 ай бұрын
The snake eating its own tail is a pretty apt symbol, since it is one of self cannibalization, and one of stagnation. The snake never goes anywhere, it just spins in a stationary circle. It's a good symbol for the pointlessness that is the multiverse.
@AlphaOmega12375 ай бұрын
So... where does the story even go from here? Minutes is offline, Renslayer is pruned, and the minutemen are all dead. They just tied up all the loose ends for the season this episode. Even Timely Kang is spaghettified. All of the villains of the season are now either dead or pruned with the exception of the movie actor guy. Like where could these last two episodes possibly go from here when nearly every path has been burned to a crisp?
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
Well you see, the writers have this thing called creativity, and that lets them...
@AlphaOmega1237
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180 They literally just cut off all their plot threads just over halfway through the season. It doesn't matter how "creative" they are, unless they retcon some of this they have next to nothing to pull from for the final two episodes. That means whatever new stuff they come up with to fill that gap will have no time to be developed before needing to be resolved. That's a big problem. In simpler terms: because of this, the next two episodes are either gonna be rushed as hell or are going to have to undo these events. Both outcomes are bad writing.
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
@@AlphaOmega1237 You're just not creative enough to figure out a way to resolve it. Also, you're using the word retcon incorrect. Tobe clear, the last two episodes are some of the most creativ, entertaining, and well written television I've ever seen.
@AlphaOmega1237
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180 Or, you're just really biased and don't care about the actual writing quality. Regardless, I'll reserve my judgment for the episodes when I actually see them, but, like I said before, this really isn't a good sign. It's highly unlikely that the next two episodes aren't going to be either random nonsense introduced at the last minute, retcons to undo at least some of these events so there can actually be an antagonist, or both. Also, yes, it is the correct use of the term retcon. Bringing these people back would be a retroactive change to continuity. It would also count as a fakeout death, among other things.
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
@@AlphaOmega1237 Retcon does not mean fake out death. Retcon is when a writer changes something previously established and pretends like it was planned that way the entire time. Darth Vader being Luke's father was a retcon because that's not what George Lucas originally had in mind when he wrote A New Hope.
@charlesmartinez58695 ай бұрын
They could have turned off the magic machine, then used infinity stones to solve everything in the TVA.
@Justanidea5976
5 ай бұрын
They don't work outside their universe
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@Justanidea5976No, they turned the “Make the infinity stones work here” switch on, it’s fine. I cannot stress enough how monumentally fucking stupid it was of them to make the magic conditional on pushing a button and not that the TVA exists outside all the universes. There is zero reason why the infinity stones shouldn’t work now. 😂
@Justanidea5976
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 Maybe I'm forgetting something...when did they do that?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@Justanidea5976 This episode. They establish that they turned the magic inhibitors off so Loki and Sylvie can use their magic in the TVA now. 🤣
@charlesmartinez5869
5 ай бұрын
@@Justanidea5976 That's a reasonable rule from the comics that they went out of their way to break.
@UndergroundRose5 ай бұрын
Oh no! Will the iconic "Whatcha bring me?" be replaced by "I promise you, this will make sense"?
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
It should. It’s had it’s fair share of time… also I don’t know/remember the context of that line or why it’s supposed to be funny. At least “I promise this will make sense” after an incomprehensible action(s) is understandable.
@Calvinosaur
5 ай бұрын
@@mrshmuga9It's from Batwoman Season 1... I want to say Episode 4, but I can't be bothered to check.
@MisterExDee5 ай бұрын
In the last episode, Dark Loki reveals he has the omni-timestone to rewind all time in all the branches and also become God of Time.
@Splobkingofsplob5 ай бұрын
Ever notice how whenever a franchise like Harry Potter or the MCU introduces time travel in a movie they immediately have to shove it in the closet and pretend it never existed after the fact, like how in Endgame they time travelled but now nobody ever thinks to time travel to make inconvenient things not happen because if they did the duct tape and prayers holding the plot together would spontaneously combust?
@joesmutz92875 ай бұрын
"Why don't you go find some superheroes?" Deadpool 3: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
@-Azure.EXE-5 ай бұрын
Slyvie is so annoying oh my GAWD lol.
@Jaygar93925 ай бұрын
“Cartoon clock, I don’t even know what to do with that” - MauLer 😂
@fr0ck3605 ай бұрын
Remember when actors used to be excited of Marvel and Star Wars projects? Now it’s just full of disappointments and some of their reputations get stained because of them John Boyega, Tom Hiddleston, and Daisy deserve better. I can’t blame them if they react like this 35:37
@beerman56655 ай бұрын
The worldbuilding in the MCU jumped head first into a black hole with loki S1, and S2 continues the dive
@A_Conservative_Patriot5 ай бұрын
Man, Jonathan Majors trying to stutter is incredibly bad
@TriplePalindromous5 ай бұрын
So there's too many timelines going into the loom, there's no space for them, they have to multiply the space so they can fit. How the fuck does this work for an infinite amount of timelines, where even getting out of bed slightly later creates a new one?
@Spink_Prime5 ай бұрын
Whoever did the editing for this needs to fucking chill, holy god. Zooms, tilts, and accentuations are great when properly placed, as they can bolster an awkward moment or funny gag by highlighting absurdity or a break in silence, but when you CONSTANTLY zip-zoom and rotate like you did in the first minute, they lose all of their power and can even actively annoy anyone paying attention to the visuals because it's so frenetic and spastic for no reason.
@sparkypack
5 ай бұрын
It was Fringy.. let's give em the peppah snuff.
@ian-op5fv
5 ай бұрын
Not only is it annoying to look at, I can't figure out what is happening in the shows that they're criticizing.
@im-on-a-rolla_gay
5 ай бұрын
Loki is spastic for no reason. Fringy’s just matching the vibe.
@haku81355 ай бұрын
"initiate protocol 42, and now let me explain to you a computer what that protocol is for dramatic spectacle."
@Tropical_Toucan5 ай бұрын
The editing of this video was really fun! Fringy singing though was such a treat.
@alexhuduma94745 ай бұрын
Guys, you better use that "I promise you this will make sense" as an alternative to "Watcha bring me?". It's too hilarious not to be used more :)))
@mojomitts5 ай бұрын
22:58 There would be a 100% Chance of some, if not ALL of the People in there beating the Leader Lady to death if it possibly meant not being *CRUSHED ALIVE.* None of them would be just watching in awe.
@mrshmuga95 ай бұрын
I don’t know if that “Dark Loki” thing is a tease by Mauler or made up, but it sounds believable in this show where literally anything could happen for no reason and be stated as sensical.
@othertalk33135 ай бұрын
All of this talk (and singing) about being out of time just reminded me of something that's actually worth watching... "Out of commission, become a pillbox. Out of ammo, become a bunker. Out of time, become heroes." - 'Tank Boy' Daskal (The Beast of War, 1988) - Great movie... is it too late to add this to the war arc?
@giulizpaviz63815 ай бұрын
Brad is like that random character that appears out of nowhere in comedies like "oh, hi Bob" and then disappear only to re-appear again with the same "oh, hi Bob". (You know what I mean?) Also 5:20 I like Fringy singing voice ngl
@gibberingmouther7105 ай бұрын
As much as I enjoy listening to the critical analysis of media that EFAP got their name for. I find myself smiling, guffawing, and generally having a more joyous time when I listen to EFAP Reacting. I'm especially fond of the Boba Fett series of EFAP reacts.
@jesusbujanda87605 ай бұрын
"You'll never be him." "I dont even know who you are."
@yourmamom5 ай бұрын
If it wasn't for Loki as a Marvel character linking it to their MCU, nobody would care about this schlock enough to criticize it.
@_Dovar_5 ай бұрын
Allowing corporations to get their tentacles over popculture was a crime against humanity.
@zeroryuj60935 ай бұрын
Are they...are they stealing from Wheel Of time? "The dark one" existing out of space and time, The great Serpent which is represented as an ouroburos. "Threads of time" woven together into the pattern? It feels like they took the more metaphorical and are trying to make it physical. I mean I'm not saying Wheel of Time was by any means first in terms of the idea but this feels REALLY similar.
@sigy4ever5 ай бұрын
am i tripping or has efap tv always had the blue efap movie scene MauLer must of been recording an efap movie and forgot to change it back?
@TheLoos3Goos335 ай бұрын
Wait, did Loki/Sylvie always have mind control powers like what they did with Brad? I thought the mind control powers he had in Avengers were only because of the chitauri staff that had the mind gem in it? Have I missed something or was this always a power of his; and if so, then why did he use the staff to mind control in Avengers versus just using his own magic? Is this just one of those powers that a character has where we have to purposefully ignore it exists 99% of the time for plot convenience?
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
don't think about it. you'll contract brain cancer.
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't remember that Sylvie's main power is Enchantment, AKA mind control? Are you stupid?
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
@@mryellow6918Is there a reason you agreed with Loos3Goos33 evne though they're obviously wrong? Are you stupid?
@mrdudemanguy12315 ай бұрын
I love this efap series. I can join in the middle without watching earlier episodes and I'm pretty sure I have exactly as much idea of what's going on as you do.
@Cassandra1125 ай бұрын
with how confused the crew is here, I want them to watch Legion and try to figure that out.
@TarossBlackburn5 ай бұрын
That's why they called him David, even the box had no idea since it said 'Or Rob or Ros' on it...
@LXDangers5 ай бұрын
Disney have managed to find a new type of sludge with this. It's completely terrible but also absolutely nonsensical. The main sludge pipe that Kenobi and Ahsoka slopped out from has split a leak and Loki adds a little something else to make a slightly different sludge. Maybe the fat Donald's cooking oil?
@c-puff5 ай бұрын
The most emotionally affecting moment so far was seeing a bunch of people getting crushed in a way my mind can't properly comprehend and seeing a dude get spaghettified. Which are both highly unpleasant concepts and the fact that those are my ONLY emotions so far, means this show just kinda feels highly unpleasant. Also "Stop acting! There's no point!" Genuinely made me laugh.
@HerohammerStudios5 ай бұрын
Timely's death was extremely funny lol
@vulkanofnocturne5 ай бұрын
Sensibly press the like button, we don't want to break it.
@CMCAdvanced
5 ай бұрын
Break it
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
The duology of man.
@Invalidcookie-bv4cx5 ай бұрын
23:10 "Look at fucking ... clock.." - MauLer 2024
@DarkAngel4595 ай бұрын
The last few seconds of this episode reminded me of the end of 'Melancholia' by Lars von Trier, when the screen goes white.
@slaapt5 ай бұрын
So... another question. Variants are created when the timeline splits. Basically every version of a person on a different timeline is a variant. The only reason the TVA variants are special is because they are the only survivors of their own timeline. But then explain Timely. If he is a Kang Variant, then every single Kang was born somewhere in the 1800s. Because they need to have been inevitable at some point in a split. Anything else wouldn't have created Kang, like if say another little swimmer fertilised the egg, or another egg detached, it would have been a different person that was born. So either all the Kangs created time and multiverse travel with 1800s tech, or there are universes which are thousands of years ahead of us. But then why could Timely create the loom? Why is he "He Who Remains" if the rest has an insane technological, industrial, and logistical advantage over him? Why does nothing here make sense? And to think they could have prevented this by grabbing him from the future...
@slaapt
5 ай бұрын
But wait... there couldn't have been an 1800s version of Timely which lived in an advanced technological age because that would mean it wasn't him that was born in that universe. Nothing could split at a point where Timely Variants were inevitable that would result in thousands of years of tech difference.
@Soubifloof5 ай бұрын
14:50 righteous indignation of someone who just demands to be right, someone in the writing room really needs fired over that one strong female character has to argue that you shouldn't do small thing when you can't do anything, but also you should be doing other thing that should be completely counter productive to what's going on, like... what? Sylvie's just such a black hole of writing, has to be someone's pet project "have you ever /dared/ to look into your past?" have you? like... from where everyone's standing, she's the cause of all this, yet she gets to 'win the argument' ...followed immediately by another woman that gets to win the argument against a stunned male who just has to stand there for the verbal lashing, AGAIN, man, hollywood loves this nonsense way of "arguments" in their writing now... and great, only time someone else gets to talk against Sylvie... is when they're lifting her up?
@Klespyrian5 ай бұрын
So Ravonna was more of the architect than Kang and more ruthless than Loki. Gotta love it.
@MrGeorgeFlorcus5 ай бұрын
Kang has officially died a pathetic death in everything he has appeared in thus far
@jasonpratt51265 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, to be fair, Ravenna is sometimes regarded as a serious general in the main comics canon (whatever that's worth now). Kang's still the overlord, but he can't do everything himself everywhere (mainly because his different versions like to compete against each other). So he's okay with delegating.
@QuantumRangerPower5 ай бұрын
It's always surreal to see this stuff after listening to reviews and realizing just how bad it actually is. Its one thing to have someone say characters make bad and nonsensical decisions and list a few examples, and quite another ro watch it happening one after the other in the story.
@anyaabusable98885 ай бұрын
OMG that ending gave me Season 5 Finale of Lost flashbacks
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"You'll never be him" He was a random inventor from Chicago less than a day ago, that means nothing to him.
@nont18411
5 ай бұрын
Plus “him” isn’t even that good.
@HectorLopez0217
5 ай бұрын
“You’ll never be HIM”
@charlesruteal9062
5 ай бұрын
That line would only work if he was played by Ryan Gosling.
@bbjygm
5 ай бұрын
Him who remains
@Invalidcookie-bv4cx
5 ай бұрын
The thing is, it worked. she goated him into going to fix the loom by himself. Had she not said that, I don't think he would have.
"I promise you, this will make sense."-Loki. Always the trickster.
@nhagan001
5 ай бұрын
I wonder what is an upgrade to “god of mischief”? God of bullshit?
@HectorLopez0217
5 ай бұрын
Is that true, Loki? You a little trickster?
@ascended1924
5 ай бұрын
Apparantly, God of Stories. No fking clue what that means.@@nhagan001
The "speech" Sylvie gave in response to Mobius wanting pie really bothered me. Not only is it ridiculous because the previous scene made clear the team is just waiting for the technobabble to be done, but this is the exact same woman that didn't want to leave her McDonalds job in the 1980s at the start of the season because she literally didn't care anymore... And Mobius isn't proposing they leave, its literally a moment of levity while they wait to go on their dangerous mission. No wonder this show doesn't make sense, the writers can't remember what happened two episodes ago, how on earth can they remember what happened two years ago. This must be why Sylvie is so insufferable, she's not a character, she's a McMuffin.
Modern Disney is like a really incompetent vampire hunter: 'No Stakes'
@jlev1028
5 ай бұрын
I dread how they'll handle Blade then.
@jsostick
3 ай бұрын
1¹¹a@@jlev1028
They went back in time to ask the creator of the temporal loom for advise on how to upgrade the current one. Can you imagine a group on NVIDIA developers traveling back in time to ask Alan Turing for how to build a graphics card?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
Yes, if the graphics card would only work when it recognised Alan’s aura. 😂
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
I'd imagine if you taught Alan Turing everything about modern computer engineering, he'd come up with some pretty good ideas. Dude was a genius.
@XenoSpyro
5 ай бұрын
Turing would say "Adding more Vram might work, try that."
@slaapt
5 ай бұрын
Dude might have been a genius, but modern chipsets are so complex there isn't a single person alive who could tell you in detail how the entire thing worked. My guess is Turing would have contributed nothing because all of it is just to far outside of his conceptual mindspace.
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
@@slaapt eh they could, but you couldn't manually design it all.
‘I’m from Chicago, I don’t trust ANYONE’ says man from Chicago when it was called the Paris of the West and a massive center of advancement and culture.
@AsperTheGhost
5 ай бұрын
Do you think that modern Disney writers know anything about the complex nature of history and how cities weren't always "liberal" shitholes?
@NoPantsBaby
5 ай бұрын
These people can't write anything that isn't CURRENT DAY CALIFORNIAN SHIT
Kang fell for the oldest trick in the book. A portal to the blender dimension.
I will give Loki season 2 this: Timely Kang getting turned into spaghetti made me laugh harder than anything else in the MCU.
@lordofthepizzapie9319
5 ай бұрын
I didn't feel anything when that happened. It was a meaningless scene in a sea of meaningless scenes.
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
Harder than Wanda turning Reed Richards into spaghetti or about the same?
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 way harder. That was just fucked up for no reason
@VirtualSatyr
5 ай бұрын
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 It was that pathetic scream he made.
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
It was like out of a comedy. “We’re desperate and it’s all on you. Surely this’ll wo-“ *gets spaghettified*
Fringy singing Hall and Oates is the only thing that brings me joy in life.
@im-on-a-rolla_gay
5 ай бұрын
Ahh damn, I know I’m late but you beat me to it
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
Crazy how his accent seemed to disappear. For a second I didn't know who he was.
@theknightsofawesomeness2701
5 ай бұрын
@im-on-a-rolla_gay you could say that you are out of time
Its funny how nobody has used the endgame time travel mechanic after endgame.
@philippathirlby7040
5 ай бұрын
Oh but that was mEAnT tO haPpEn
@beginnersmessiah
5 ай бұрын
@@philippathirlby7040 yes but nobody after endgame was meant to happen to have that space-time gps?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
In fairness, that only came about because of the combined genius of Tony and Ant Man. One of them is dead, and the other hasn’t been in a situation where he’d need to, and even if he were, they can fall on “I can’t do this without Tony.” Not great but honestly not the worst problem the MCU has. 🤷🏻♂️
@NoPantsBaby
5 ай бұрын
Does it even still work? how did it even work in the first place cause they were timeline hopping with Kang pruning all timelines.
@beginnersmessiah
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 there was an attempt by you to explain it kudos you did more than multi million dollar writers. Not even remotely acceptable but there's an attempt. That said, what IS THE WORST PROBLEM OF MCU - hope we get an efap on that.
Loki: "You can't give people free will and walk away!" Rags: you literally could though.. That does sound like something a god of mischief might do.. so no, we can't have that 😂
@denkerbosu3551
5 ай бұрын
Lucifer Morningstar from DC literally did this.
@CarrionCrow993
5 ай бұрын
2012 Loki would have got a deckchair out and a bucket of popcorn for this sh*t show.
"I promise you, this will make sense" is the new "*desk slam* Whatcha bring me?"
No-one : Oh look Ma, it's Kang my all time favourite villain. No-one's Ma's : Who? No-one : Oh Ma, come on, Where you been? it's him from the hit no profit film Termite boy and the something realm.
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
Here's to hoping Jonathan Majors achieves something villainous in some realm
The Loki show breaks my damn heart because it COULD BE GOOD and Hiddleston is such a talented actor, Hiddleston and Wilson have great chemistry too but the story is just SO MEANDERING!
Why he wouldn't look into his own life: he is a variant. The timeline he came for has been pruned. Why would anyone think it still exists to look into?
@unfilthy
5 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I said after the Brad episode, where he wrongly said that there were people left behind. No there weren't, they got pruned. They're acting like pruned timelines suddenly respawned as if nothing happened. But, of course, if timelines can be restored with everyone in them as if nothing happened, then they could just prune everything, fix whatever the loom is, and then restore all those timelines again. The whole thing is stupid.
@slaapt
5 ай бұрын
Ehhhhhhh... Now that I had some time to think, which is probably more effort than I should have put into it... The TVA works across all of time. Which means that some of the pruning would happen in the subjective future from where the timeline started branching again (it would be cool to have a date for that. If it started branching all the way from the start, I want to know if the MCU happened in a branching or non-branching version of the universe). If those prunings now never happen, would that undo the destruction of the timeline? Would that make the variant a RikerClone of the version of him that never got pruned? Or is there still a "pruned" third version of the branch from a single event? Because either that happened, or the TVA agent needs to disappear in a grandfather paradox of epic proportions. Either uncountable trillions of people remain dead, or the TVA agent can't exist as (s)he never got taken for breaking the rules as the rules aren't enforced any longer.
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
5 ай бұрын
@@slaapt My brain hurts...
Efap needs more Wesker impressions in general.
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
It's an objective fact that everything becomes better with Wesker impressions.
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
I like the prank call videos where he calls people named Chris
@jackobrien47
5 ай бұрын
Total Wesker saturation
@kylenegaard6461
5 ай бұрын
Time stamp on Video?
Out of all the stupid things in this season, the one thing that irks me the most is the Loom. This thing simply makes NO sense. What power did Kang pull out of his ass to create something that ensnares the space and time of ALL REALITY? HOW?! The power required for something like this is God-level. And also, you'd think the various gods of the Marvel universes would not stand for a mortal jeopardizing all of existence. The ONLY reason it exists is to turn Loki into the God of Stories or whatever the fuck. Which I have to ask, shouldn't that be the One Above All's (God's) job?
@darkpuppetlordful
5 ай бұрын
Yeah but a shitty modern comic made Loki god of stories once so they are gonna do that to show they are "comic accurate"
@Ace-0f-Spadez
5 ай бұрын
@@darkpuppetlordfulit wasn’t that bad a comic rrly lokis been pretty good overall but if you don’t like complicated stuff or like a lot of a god level power then don’t yk read comics
@sparkypack
5 ай бұрын
It's looming nooming time
@kirathekillernote2173
5 ай бұрын
Don't you know, he has super advanced tech
@PanzerblitzRnR
5 ай бұрын
There's also the questions of "what was the loom doing when there was only one timeline? How do you loom a single string? The timelines have only just began to diverge and it's already breaking down? How did the loom cope with the timelines before they were all pruned into one?"
My friend said that this season is great and that he really liked it. I'm worried about his mental health.
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
I'm really curious as to what the fuck he actually likes about it
@hinugundamB
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudiosMaybe he was doing some really strong stuff.
@tabull8180
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudios I can ask next time I see him. Maybe he is just a fan of nice looking sets.
@laileleneirose7966
5 ай бұрын
Perhaps he liked the ending. The ending of season 2 for a lot of people in the final two episode saved the season from being terrible for them. Maybe your friend liked it for similar reasons.
@spacemanspud7073
5 ай бұрын
I have from multiple places that loki season 2 is good, wtf
13:54 Same vibe as Harley Quinn ranting on Batman for “causing a mental and emotional damage to everyone he knows”. Yeah, the one who caused the whole problems blamed someone else for the consequences of her own actions. Truly a stunning and brave moment. At least DC managed to make people like Harley. Marvel, however, will never be successful at making people like Sylvie.
@giulizpaviz6381
5 ай бұрын
I don't know. After the Suicide Squad game. Harley became quite hated (or at least, that version of Harley)
"No, Diverse Stunning and Brave Whamen. You were the real bestest person! We Wuz Kangz would be nothing without you! You did all the things!" Jesus wept, they really can't help themselves, can they? The sheer desperation to constantly trot out any woman they can to suddenly declare how great they are.
Victor Timely was cringe, but that felt really vindictive. He was just some random guy from the 19th century who's pulled into this insane time travel bullshit by a gaggle of morons. And his instinct is to immediately help them. Not only that, but to volunteer to go out into the hellscape of time or whatever. And what's his reward? Screaming in agony while turning into spaghetti. Does Marvel have a fucking fetish at this point of brutally killing good people?
@PrayForTanqueray
5 ай бұрын
But, don't you see? He could become 'He Who Remains Cringe', so all bad things happening to him are justified. And don't forget that he might also go on to steal the accomplishments of a woman. That bastard.
@jcore0981
5 ай бұрын
@@PrayForTanqueray Lol
@emarythomp
5 ай бұрын
Didn’t even think about it. He really just sacrificed his entire life and way of life for the infinite multiverse and it’s treated as a joke…..
@unpopularopinions7407
5 ай бұрын
@@emarythompWas it _meant_ to be funny? I legit can’t even tell
36:41 so what else people dont seem to talk about with the celestial sticking out of the earth is that it was growing in the core of the planet so as it was "hatching" it burst through the core and all layers, that planet would have been finished right there...
@puggietaur
4 ай бұрын
technically it wasn't, it is much smaller than earth and just moved to the surface before emerging. However, the earth exploding as shown by Arishem in his visualization of it is an entirely separate process that just happens, so killing Tiamut shouldn't have stopped that, and even if it did, the earth would be badly off in multiple ways due to all the mass Tiamut would be displacing moving from the core to the surface, plus extending beyond the clouds, that much of him sticking out would likely slow earth's rotation
The most unrealistic and implausible thing about MauLer’s hypothetical episode plot he raised in the beginning is the idea that Sylvie would be crying over Loki. Everything else I could buy but obviously she’d look at dead Loki with a smug look like “How could you let that happen, idiot?” But yeah besides that, perfectly believable prediction for this show. 👍
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
I know this is supposed to be a bit of a joke, but you're completely right...
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudiosIt’s all a bit of a joke 🫠🫠🫠
@alduinthetyrant5225
5 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, are you the original longshanks, hammer of the scotts, with a changed name or a different person?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@alduinthetyrant5225 That be me. YT forced everyone’s display names in comments to be spaceless a while back lol
@alduinthetyrant5225
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 Makes sense. My name used to have capital letters, but they took it out and I never bothered to fix it.
I have a strong feeling that the entire plot of this season is just an ACAB allegory all over again. "It'd be better to just start from scratch." or "This place can't be better."
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
Most intelligent Mauler fan:
@ciege7486
5 ай бұрын
most intelligent mauler critic:@@Pythagoras180
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
TEAR IT ALL DOWN
@unpopularopinions7407
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180Several journos (favorably) interpreted it that way, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@AsperTheGhost
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180 Mr Biggles? Is that you?
It always comes back to the cinematic antichrist, doesn't it? He invented the streaming formula: 1. Mystery boxes 2. Hide behind ambiguity 3. Fan disappointment is irrelevant 4. Who cares: you've already got their money
I think Loki is an example of how fandom actually poisons the legacy of characters when the primary fandom exists outside of the core demographic - Loki was beloved by tumblr girls for being le evil effeminate heartthrob, so as soon as anyone from that fandom culture had creative control, they of course co-opted him as their ideal version of a character someone else made. Hell, it doesn't even have to be someone with creative control; enough marketing influences, which we know media marketing in general to already primarily seek opinions from that core demo due to city-slicker cultural bias, will lead to the selfsame outcome, nice-boy Loki put down by girlboss self-insert designed to be brave but not conventionally attractive enough to be isolating for that very specific alt-nerd girl audienxe.
@4llfor1
5 ай бұрын
I remember all those girls simping for Loki after Avengers 1. It reminds me of those girls who, after the first Suicide Squad movie, were saying that Joker and Harley were a positive relationship worth emulating. It's people who were fans of these properties but didn't understand them or (more likely) they were fans of their own fanfics and fanfic versions of the characters (Reylo).
@moomyung9231
5 ай бұрын
@@4llfor1 Hey, I was simping but not in a Tumblr way. I wanted my redemption arc, not just bait and switch Loki.
@giulizpaviz6381
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I got the same feeling. I don't think it's a bad thing fangirling over a fictional character, but the creators still needs to put a border between fandom and canon. This Loki in the TV show is not Loki
@HiddenHandMedia
5 ай бұрын
When was Loki effeminate before ?
@unpopularopinions7407
5 ай бұрын
It’s like the Reylo kiss in TROS; they obviously stuck that in at the last minute and everyone knows exactly why
Sylphie is just upset because she prefers cake from the Cake Room
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
Underated comment
"You'll never be him." So? That means nothing to him. That's like someone telling me "You'll never be like the king of Prussia." Why would I give a fuck???
@nox5555
5 ай бұрын
I mean having a private army of huge dudes marching in silly formations all day long is a pretty rad hobby....
In what timeline could any character have a decent haircut. I'm not a fan of Sylvie, but they definitely did her dirty.
@moomyung9231
5 ай бұрын
It must be a new ugly thing for woke girls. The EMT from From also got the same hideous haircut in their season 2.
Just a small issue with "you can't give people free will and walk away"... Why not? Because they might do something you disapprove of? You need to make sure they make the correct choice? By violence if needed?
@e.c.winner7252
5 ай бұрын
Disney’s writers are all commies, so this take makes sense for them.
@f3ynman44
5 ай бұрын
so ironic lol
@gabbycotto4024
5 ай бұрын
In absolute fairness to the writers, it was pretty clear in context that what Loki meant was “Slyvie, you wanted to free the universe from the TVA railroading history, but doing that means reality is about to collapse under its own weight from the multiverse growing out of control. You have a responsibility to save existence itself from the consequence of your actions and put the multiverse in a stable safe condition, because liberation means nothing if it results in immediate death.” Its badly conveyed because Sylvie is a Mary Sue and pacing no longer exists, but it’s the closest anyone is allowed to get to criticizing her so I’ll take it.
Johnathan playing Kang feels like the cool guy jock trying to pretend to be the weird eccentric nerd having absolutely never even approached the feeling of lacking confidence. It’s kind of a tragic backfire of crafting a charismatic public persona as an actor, like be probably has. He’s just doesn’t know what it’s like to be a little more timid, less assured and nervous. I mean he’s literally paid to convincingly act like other people so it’s failure on his part but it does also suggest miscasting. He does not have the range to play both Kang the conqueror and Timely.
The fact that timelines are physical, not a representation, but actual size/mass is...I don't even--
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
thats probs the only reasonable thing they show here, they are outside of all the 4th dimensional universes in a 5th dimensional universe.
@AppleInk
5 ай бұрын
@@mryellow6918 I guess so, but it's the execution that ruins it completely for me.
Yay, the return of fan favorite Marvel character, Brad.
"You get all your idea's from comic book villains?" - CHRIIIIIIIIIISSSSS Redfield
@christopherkelley1664
5 ай бұрын
CHRIS
I haven’t felt so little investment in a series since Legend of Korra destroyed Bending Origins.
@arvatrontheiv2220
5 ай бұрын
I was about to argue how it technically doesn't retcon anything but that doesn't mean its a good origin so yeah. Though I will say that it can be "patched" by showing how those people given bending develop over time, so the transition from those given the abillity to those born with it and having to learn to use it, if that makes sense. Though that hasn't happened so its kind of just cope:(
@nhagan001
5 ай бұрын
@@arvatrontheiv2220I look at it as the world went from even having the possibility to bend, to not having it. It’s like we had exactly a 0% chance to be able to figure out bending before Lion Turtles. Then Lion Turtles came along and now we had a possibility. There was absolutely no way the avatar would have come about without the Lion Turtles giving him the elements. There is no middle ground anymore. Loki is similar. It started out declaring “all the choices and stakes that have gotten our show to this point? Yeah they’ve all been approved by this mythical organization that exists outside of time and space”. I either have to completely pretend Korra and the TVA don’t exist, or have to grapple with the fact that all the stakes of the MCU and ALTA were completely shat on.
"You have to trust us. We don't have time." Owen Wilson You're at the TVA, what does it MEAN to not have time???
This show acting like Loki being a God doesn't matter in the TVA. Except, biology doesn't change. He would still be super strong and very durable, sure no magic but the fact he could smack someone across a room should still be a thing.
@bertimusprime7900
5 ай бұрын
Yeah they seem to have forgotten that he's a frost giant, and by extention, so is sylvie.
@zombieneith7
5 ай бұрын
@@bertimusprime7900Forgotten implies they even knew that to begin with. Modern writers don't care at all about the source materiel.
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
i like how they just say no magic, as if they would capture a variant of hulk and could deal with it.
_"I promise you this will make sense."_ *-Disney (to audiences) on the state of the MCU.*
Me: "I had pie for breakfast." Sylvie: "So you're saying 'Destroy everything in the multiverse except pie'?"
Since Hall and Oates are feuding, Fringy should join either Darryl or John on tour. They'd make a ton of money.
Mauler´s Wesker impression is really good hahahahaha
"At this point, if the TVA exploded, I don't even know what that would mean." -- MauLer demonstrates his credentials for being a prophet at the Babylon Bee.
Didn’t the TVA have a desk drawer full of Infinity Stones? Why would they need the help of 2 prisoners?
@Terriblyexplainingcomics
5 ай бұрын
Infinity stones don’t work outside of their own universes. Something that’s been pretty consistent throughout all marvel continuity funnily enough
@lordofthepizzapie9319
5 ай бұрын
@@Terriblyexplainingcomics Endgame
@Terriblyexplainingcomics
5 ай бұрын
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 still technically in their own universes just a different time, once they put it back in the correct timeline
@Hollyclown
5 ай бұрын
@@Terriblyexplainingcomics is that not what they do in Endgame and What If? Yes they pull the Stones from the past in Endgame, but does that not coincide with the Multi-Universe premise? Does the TVA not have a turn off switch like the one for Magic in this episode?
@Terriblyexplainingcomics
5 ай бұрын
@@Hollyclown only turns into a different universe if they don’t return the stones to their original time or something to that effect. The stones technically aren’t magic as they are simply products of the universe and therefore natural in their aspect.
Took me a minute to remember, but Loki Pruned himself in order to stop his "time-slipping," in the first episode.
I like how having a moment to sit down for what might be the last chance to is a bad thing. So, did the evil lady kill the prisoners because they might work with the good guys? It really didn't seem like they were gonna work with either side. Or, why didn't they pretend to agree to work with her so they can get out, armed themselves and then betray her when they get the chance. Also, what reason did Brad have to continue working with the evil ladies once the clock got turned off? Like, he's the one that's armed, i don't see why he wouldn't turn on her. Hell, he might take issue with her killing the other prisoners. Or he could just run away. I could even see the Lokis just asking him to help them because he's just some dude (called Brad) who was forced into working for the evil lady, skipping the whole mind control part which just makes the whole part confusing.
The only one time that MCU understood that the same person from a different universe isn’t the same person with the original was Gamora in GOTG3.
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
Also in Avengers: Endgame. But ya it stopped with those two.
You know how they have a drawer full of infinity stones? You know how they turned magic back on? Maybe one of those now functional infinitely powerful objects could help do things.
What the fuck does the TVA even do now? I mean… really, what do they do all day? Like, we see people walking around like it’s an office as if it was business as usual back in S1. There, it made sense - bear with me - there was so much movement in the background because our plot with Loki and Mobius was only one tiny part of this vast organisation with millions of people doing the same. But that’s gone now. The TVA doesn’t melt people anymore, apparently they go out of their way to stop people doing that… so what are they doing? What are people typing about on their computers? What are people walking around for, where are they hoping to go and what are they trying to do? Are they just doing menial bureaucratic work for the sake of doing it because there’s literally nothing else to do? I really can’t imagine a more dystopian hell than that for eternity.
@_juliette_marie_
5 ай бұрын
the idea of them doing menial bureaucratic work for no real reason somehow reminds me of those british prisons with the pointless treadmills. it really sounds like hell.
@raufm.2135
5 ай бұрын
Don't forget about pies. They also eat pies and drink hot coco. So celestially meaningful!
@Calvinosaur
5 ай бұрын
"I promise you, this will all make sense." - Loko Laggins
5:20 Normally Fringy’s Simpson’s references are the only thing that brings me joy, but now his Hall and Oates cover is also the only thing.
Happily ignoring this show and watching you guys laugh at it 😂
It's comforting to know that even people who have seen all of Loki have no idea what's going on.
The Loom, man... The thing is probably more advanced than a dyson sphere and they're going to have a scientist from the late 1800's or something fix the fucking thing? Also Sylvie is really getting on my nerves every time she opens her mouth.
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
quite literately designed a 5th dimensional sewing machine before the discovery of space time.
I actually liked frignys singing
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
frignys is my favourite EFAP guest
@MilkT0ast
5 ай бұрын
@@HerohammerStudios 5:20
No burger King episode? Aw man
i legitimately can’t tell what they were doing with sylvies hair. it looks like she’s wearing a wig from temu or something
For whatever reason studios think that an entire season of a show is 6 to 12 episodes. You could watch the first and last episode of any modern show and not miss anything. Some you could just watch the last episode. Rings of power works if you just watch the last episode.
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
It’s because they spend way more money per episode than typical TV shows. In other cases if it happens without huge CG budgets, it’s probably because they just want “content” and aren’t willing to invest in case a show doesn’t hit it off. Or not to whatever their standards are. This was a problem before streaming was ubiquitous too. A ton of shows would get a debut season in the Fall with 12-24 episodes, and be cancelled before the next Fall.
The snake eating its own tail is a pretty apt symbol, since it is one of self cannibalization, and one of stagnation. The snake never goes anywhere, it just spins in a stationary circle. It's a good symbol for the pointlessness that is the multiverse.
So... where does the story even go from here? Minutes is offline, Renslayer is pruned, and the minutemen are all dead. They just tied up all the loose ends for the season this episode. Even Timely Kang is spaghettified. All of the villains of the season are now either dead or pruned with the exception of the movie actor guy. Like where could these last two episodes possibly go from here when nearly every path has been burned to a crisp?
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
Well you see, the writers have this thing called creativity, and that lets them...
@AlphaOmega1237
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180 They literally just cut off all their plot threads just over halfway through the season. It doesn't matter how "creative" they are, unless they retcon some of this they have next to nothing to pull from for the final two episodes. That means whatever new stuff they come up with to fill that gap will have no time to be developed before needing to be resolved. That's a big problem. In simpler terms: because of this, the next two episodes are either gonna be rushed as hell or are going to have to undo these events. Both outcomes are bad writing.
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
@@AlphaOmega1237 You're just not creative enough to figure out a way to resolve it. Also, you're using the word retcon incorrect. Tobe clear, the last two episodes are some of the most creativ, entertaining, and well written television I've ever seen.
@AlphaOmega1237
5 ай бұрын
@@Pythagoras180 Or, you're just really biased and don't care about the actual writing quality. Regardless, I'll reserve my judgment for the episodes when I actually see them, but, like I said before, this really isn't a good sign. It's highly unlikely that the next two episodes aren't going to be either random nonsense introduced at the last minute, retcons to undo at least some of these events so there can actually be an antagonist, or both. Also, yes, it is the correct use of the term retcon. Bringing these people back would be a retroactive change to continuity. It would also count as a fakeout death, among other things.
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
@@AlphaOmega1237 Retcon does not mean fake out death. Retcon is when a writer changes something previously established and pretends like it was planned that way the entire time. Darth Vader being Luke's father was a retcon because that's not what George Lucas originally had in mind when he wrote A New Hope.
They could have turned off the magic machine, then used infinity stones to solve everything in the TVA.
@Justanidea5976
5 ай бұрын
They don't work outside their universe
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@Justanidea5976No, they turned the “Make the infinity stones work here” switch on, it’s fine. I cannot stress enough how monumentally fucking stupid it was of them to make the magic conditional on pushing a button and not that the TVA exists outside all the universes. There is zero reason why the infinity stones shouldn’t work now. 😂
@Justanidea5976
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshanks1690 Maybe I'm forgetting something...when did they do that?
@Longshanks1690
5 ай бұрын
@@Justanidea5976 This episode. They establish that they turned the magic inhibitors off so Loki and Sylvie can use their magic in the TVA now. 🤣
@charlesmartinez5869
5 ай бұрын
@@Justanidea5976 That's a reasonable rule from the comics that they went out of their way to break.
Oh no! Will the iconic "Whatcha bring me?" be replaced by "I promise you, this will make sense"?
@mrshmuga9
5 ай бұрын
It should. It’s had it’s fair share of time… also I don’t know/remember the context of that line or why it’s supposed to be funny. At least “I promise this will make sense” after an incomprehensible action(s) is understandable.
@Calvinosaur
5 ай бұрын
@@mrshmuga9It's from Batwoman Season 1... I want to say Episode 4, but I can't be bothered to check.
In the last episode, Dark Loki reveals he has the omni-timestone to rewind all time in all the branches and also become God of Time.
Ever notice how whenever a franchise like Harry Potter or the MCU introduces time travel in a movie they immediately have to shove it in the closet and pretend it never existed after the fact, like how in Endgame they time travelled but now nobody ever thinks to time travel to make inconvenient things not happen because if they did the duct tape and prayers holding the plot together would spontaneously combust?
"Why don't you go find some superheroes?" Deadpool 3: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
Slyvie is so annoying oh my GAWD lol.
“Cartoon clock, I don’t even know what to do with that” - MauLer 😂
Remember when actors used to be excited of Marvel and Star Wars projects? Now it’s just full of disappointments and some of their reputations get stained because of them John Boyega, Tom Hiddleston, and Daisy deserve better. I can’t blame them if they react like this 35:37
The worldbuilding in the MCU jumped head first into a black hole with loki S1, and S2 continues the dive
Man, Jonathan Majors trying to stutter is incredibly bad
So there's too many timelines going into the loom, there's no space for them, they have to multiply the space so they can fit. How the fuck does this work for an infinite amount of timelines, where even getting out of bed slightly later creates a new one?
Whoever did the editing for this needs to fucking chill, holy god. Zooms, tilts, and accentuations are great when properly placed, as they can bolster an awkward moment or funny gag by highlighting absurdity or a break in silence, but when you CONSTANTLY zip-zoom and rotate like you did in the first minute, they lose all of their power and can even actively annoy anyone paying attention to the visuals because it's so frenetic and spastic for no reason.
@sparkypack
5 ай бұрын
It was Fringy.. let's give em the peppah snuff.
@ian-op5fv
5 ай бұрын
Not only is it annoying to look at, I can't figure out what is happening in the shows that they're criticizing.
@im-on-a-rolla_gay
5 ай бұрын
Loki is spastic for no reason. Fringy’s just matching the vibe.
"initiate protocol 42, and now let me explain to you a computer what that protocol is for dramatic spectacle."
The editing of this video was really fun! Fringy singing though was such a treat.
Guys, you better use that "I promise you this will make sense" as an alternative to "Watcha bring me?". It's too hilarious not to be used more :)))
22:58 There would be a 100% Chance of some, if not ALL of the People in there beating the Leader Lady to death if it possibly meant not being *CRUSHED ALIVE.* None of them would be just watching in awe.
I don’t know if that “Dark Loki” thing is a tease by Mauler or made up, but it sounds believable in this show where literally anything could happen for no reason and be stated as sensical.
All of this talk (and singing) about being out of time just reminded me of something that's actually worth watching... "Out of commission, become a pillbox. Out of ammo, become a bunker. Out of time, become heroes." - 'Tank Boy' Daskal (The Beast of War, 1988) - Great movie... is it too late to add this to the war arc?
Brad is like that random character that appears out of nowhere in comedies like "oh, hi Bob" and then disappear only to re-appear again with the same "oh, hi Bob". (You know what I mean?) Also 5:20 I like Fringy singing voice ngl
As much as I enjoy listening to the critical analysis of media that EFAP got their name for. I find myself smiling, guffawing, and generally having a more joyous time when I listen to EFAP Reacting. I'm especially fond of the Boba Fett series of EFAP reacts.
"You'll never be him." "I dont even know who you are."
If it wasn't for Loki as a Marvel character linking it to their MCU, nobody would care about this schlock enough to criticize it.
Allowing corporations to get their tentacles over popculture was a crime against humanity.
Are they...are they stealing from Wheel Of time? "The dark one" existing out of space and time, The great Serpent which is represented as an ouroburos. "Threads of time" woven together into the pattern? It feels like they took the more metaphorical and are trying to make it physical. I mean I'm not saying Wheel of Time was by any means first in terms of the idea but this feels REALLY similar.
am i tripping or has efap tv always had the blue efap movie scene MauLer must of been recording an efap movie and forgot to change it back?
Wait, did Loki/Sylvie always have mind control powers like what they did with Brad? I thought the mind control powers he had in Avengers were only because of the chitauri staff that had the mind gem in it? Have I missed something or was this always a power of his; and if so, then why did he use the staff to mind control in Avengers versus just using his own magic? Is this just one of those powers that a character has where we have to purposefully ignore it exists 99% of the time for plot convenience?
@mryellow6918
5 ай бұрын
don't think about it. you'll contract brain cancer.
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't remember that Sylvie's main power is Enchantment, AKA mind control? Are you stupid?
@Pythagoras180
5 ай бұрын
@@mryellow6918Is there a reason you agreed with Loos3Goos33 evne though they're obviously wrong? Are you stupid?
I love this efap series. I can join in the middle without watching earlier episodes and I'm pretty sure I have exactly as much idea of what's going on as you do.
with how confused the crew is here, I want them to watch Legion and try to figure that out.
That's why they called him David, even the box had no idea since it said 'Or Rob or Ros' on it...
Disney have managed to find a new type of sludge with this. It's completely terrible but also absolutely nonsensical. The main sludge pipe that Kenobi and Ahsoka slopped out from has split a leak and Loki adds a little something else to make a slightly different sludge. Maybe the fat Donald's cooking oil?
The most emotionally affecting moment so far was seeing a bunch of people getting crushed in a way my mind can't properly comprehend and seeing a dude get spaghettified. Which are both highly unpleasant concepts and the fact that those are my ONLY emotions so far, means this show just kinda feels highly unpleasant. Also "Stop acting! There's no point!" Genuinely made me laugh.
Timely's death was extremely funny lol
Sensibly press the like button, we don't want to break it.
@CMCAdvanced
5 ай бұрын
Break it
@HerohammerStudios
5 ай бұрын
The duology of man.
23:10 "Look at fucking ... clock.." - MauLer 2024
The last few seconds of this episode reminded me of the end of 'Melancholia' by Lars von Trier, when the screen goes white.
So... another question. Variants are created when the timeline splits. Basically every version of a person on a different timeline is a variant. The only reason the TVA variants are special is because they are the only survivors of their own timeline. But then explain Timely. If he is a Kang Variant, then every single Kang was born somewhere in the 1800s. Because they need to have been inevitable at some point in a split. Anything else wouldn't have created Kang, like if say another little swimmer fertilised the egg, or another egg detached, it would have been a different person that was born. So either all the Kangs created time and multiverse travel with 1800s tech, or there are universes which are thousands of years ahead of us. But then why could Timely create the loom? Why is he "He Who Remains" if the rest has an insane technological, industrial, and logistical advantage over him? Why does nothing here make sense? And to think they could have prevented this by grabbing him from the future...
@slaapt
5 ай бұрын
But wait... there couldn't have been an 1800s version of Timely which lived in an advanced technological age because that would mean it wasn't him that was born in that universe. Nothing could split at a point where Timely Variants were inevitable that would result in thousands of years of tech difference.
14:50 righteous indignation of someone who just demands to be right, someone in the writing room really needs fired over that one strong female character has to argue that you shouldn't do small thing when you can't do anything, but also you should be doing other thing that should be completely counter productive to what's going on, like... what? Sylvie's just such a black hole of writing, has to be someone's pet project "have you ever /dared/ to look into your past?" have you? like... from where everyone's standing, she's the cause of all this, yet she gets to 'win the argument' ...followed immediately by another woman that gets to win the argument against a stunned male who just has to stand there for the verbal lashing, AGAIN, man, hollywood loves this nonsense way of "arguments" in their writing now... and great, only time someone else gets to talk against Sylvie... is when they're lifting her up?
So Ravonna was more of the architect than Kang and more ruthless than Loki. Gotta love it.
Kang has officially died a pathetic death in everything he has appeared in thus far
Meanwhile, to be fair, Ravenna is sometimes regarded as a serious general in the main comics canon (whatever that's worth now). Kang's still the overlord, but he can't do everything himself everywhere (mainly because his different versions like to compete against each other). So he's okay with delegating.
It's always surreal to see this stuff after listening to reviews and realizing just how bad it actually is. Its one thing to have someone say characters make bad and nonsensical decisions and list a few examples, and quite another ro watch it happening one after the other in the story.
OMG that ending gave me Season 5 Finale of Lost flashbacks