EEVblog 1624 - Electronex: Liquid Instruments Moku Oscilloscope

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An interview at the Liquid Instruments stand at Electronex 2024 about the Moku range of multi-function mixed signal oscilloscope, designed and built in Australia!
Thanks to Ben Price for answering the questions even though he's the mechnical engineer!
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  • @kurtu5
    @kurtu528 күн бұрын

    Didn't think I'd stick around for the full 13 minute ad. Now I want to see the tear down.

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    27 күн бұрын

    They said they'll send me the small one for teardown and review.

  • @jutukka

    @jutukka

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@EEVblogYou could have said him that don't bother, let's do it now. I mean when they see that mail bag opening knife of yours no one says no. 😊

  • @bzcup
    @bzcup28 күн бұрын

    functions: all of them, temp sensors: sure, a bunch, almost all of them, bandwidth: yeah, all of it.

  • @mattyclark1981
    @mattyclark198128 күн бұрын

    Crikey.... I want one. I don't need one, of course, but I still want one!

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics28 күн бұрын

    Analog Discovery on steroids! Pretty interesting, a good addition to a crammed lab or when you're on the move. I love the Pro mechanical design - clearly well made and functional, it kinda reminds me of Power Macs.

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    28 күн бұрын

    It looked pretty schmick.

  • @testingbruin
    @testingbruin28 күн бұрын

    It's an FPGA based solution with relatively low channel count and my understanding is that they're able to use the same ADC components for voltage input signals and reconfigure it for oscilloscope, spectrum analyzer, lock-in amplifier and etc functions.

  • @GalileoAV

    @GalileoAV

    28 күн бұрын

    I was going to ask if this was FPGA when he mentioned deploying new instrument packages, what a cool system

  • @Axman6

    @Axman6

    27 күн бұрын

    Not just new, you can write your own and put them in any slot.

  • @LiquidInstruments

    @LiquidInstruments

    26 күн бұрын

    @@GalileoAV Exactly right, FPGA-based devicves with software-defined instruments.

  • @LiquidInstruments

    @LiquidInstruments

    26 күн бұрын

    @@Axman6 Yes -- users can deploy their own instruments using Moku Cloud Compile.

  • @AdityaMehendale
    @AdityaMehendale28 күн бұрын

    The UI 0:32 is DELICIOUS ! Well done, folks!

  • @AluVixapede
    @AluVixapede28 күн бұрын

    b-b-but I like switching cables... I have a big collection of cool, painfully over priced cables :( For real though, how the heck do they cram all that into 1 box?

  • @angoose2515

    @angoose2515

    28 күн бұрын

    Must be like the tardis. Larger on the inside

  • @Roobotics

    @Roobotics

    28 күн бұрын

    They never answered the notion about analog switches.. so my guess is there actually are none and it was an incorrect guess, likely ADC-FPGA-DAC driven, and configured via software in that sense.

  • @reedreamer9518
    @reedreamer951828 күн бұрын

    Thant's next level - go Ausy Tech!

  • @brumbymg
    @brumbymg28 күн бұрын

    That is one stand at which I did stop and spend some time. Very cool!!

  • @mikeraffone8570
    @mikeraffone857028 күн бұрын

    This kit looks amazing. Teardown please

  • @ciabutnot7723
    @ciabutnot772328 күн бұрын

    Why does it look so slick? Why is it not clunky to use? I want clunky beige boxes! This is too refined!

  • @Chris_Grossman
    @Chris_Grossman28 күн бұрын

    A laser lab I work with has six Moko pros.

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    28 күн бұрын

    Fanboys.

  • @quetzalcoatl-pl

    @quetzalcoatl-pl

    28 күн бұрын

    And how much do they like them?

  • @shazam6274

    @shazam6274

    27 күн бұрын

    @@quetzalcoatl-pl At least $100k !

  • @DerNuesser
    @DerNuesser28 күн бұрын

    looks like a decent product at a reasonable price

  • @kgsalvage6306
    @kgsalvage630628 күн бұрын

    Definitely want to see a teardown! I've been thinking about getting a software based setup. Looks like this is the way to go. @ $600US , sounds pretty good.

  • @k4qdex
    @k4qdex25 күн бұрын

    i've worked with the moku pro within the scope of my thesis. great instrument, easy to use and lots of functionalities

  • @abavariannormiepleb9470
    @abavariannormiepleb947028 күн бұрын

    Hopefully that demonstrated UI control system server can be run completely locally without any forced Cloud (TM) innovation.

  • @Crynja

    @Crynja

    28 күн бұрын

    Yep, sub microsecond input to output latency. No cloud in the loop.

  • @catabaticanabatic3800
    @catabaticanabatic380028 күн бұрын

    I want one. Now!

  • @liampwll
    @liampwll28 күн бұрын

    It looks like there's a 25V/5V input limit on the 60MHz and 200MHz one respectively. That seems it's going to be a pain if you want to replace a regular scope with one of these.

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    28 күн бұрын

    Very common to not get the same input attenuator flexibility on USB scopes like this.

  • @lmwlmw4468
    @lmwlmw446827 күн бұрын

    Awesome.

  • @kevin2706
    @kevin270622 күн бұрын

    Wow great job

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew28 күн бұрын

    The Moku devices remind me of working with LabView virtual instruments, except Moku does it with FPGAs and ancillary hardware.

  • @shazam6274

    @shazam6274

    27 күн бұрын

    And what looks like a much nicer GUI instead of the crappy LabView stuff.

  • @wtmayhew

    @wtmayhew

    27 күн бұрын

    @@shazam6274 Yes, it looks like the Moku UI is well polished based on the video, I’d like to try it out first hand.

  • @Crynja

    @Crynja

    27 күн бұрын

    ⁠App is free to download and has a demo mode (not exactly a simulation but lets you play with the UI and get a feel for its limitations)

  • @wtmayhew

    @wtmayhew

    27 күн бұрын

    @@Crynja Thank you for the suggestion.

  • @drez13
    @drez1328 күн бұрын

    Very cool

  • @runforitman
    @runforitman24 күн бұрын

    Pretty awesome Will look into more I'd love to support more Aussie made products

  • @bill6255
    @bill625528 күн бұрын

    I'm totally interested in purchasing but only if you can ramp the PS with the function generator!

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    28 күн бұрын

    Would seem silly if you can't with all this insane flexibility, but needs to be tested.

  • @bill6255

    @bill6255

    28 күн бұрын

    @@EEVblog I agree - I really wanted see it function

  • @floodo1
    @floodo128 күн бұрын

    hope they send one in for review!

  • @marcfruchtman9473
    @marcfruchtman947327 күн бұрын

    This looks really exciting. I am particularly interested in the smaller unit for use in the class room. Is the Python API for the smaller unit full featured? I would like to see a demo of the API for sure.

  • @LiquidInstruments

    @LiquidInstruments

    26 күн бұрын

    We've got a Python demo coming up, actually -- you can register for the webinar on our website. It'll have a live Q&A as well.

  • @marcfruchtman9473

    @marcfruchtman9473

    25 күн бұрын

    @@LiquidInstruments Could you give a hint as to "where" on your website I would find that?

  • @LiquidInstruments

    @LiquidInstruments

    25 күн бұрын

    @@marcfruchtman9473 Absolutely -- we're unable to post links, but head to our website and mouse over "Company", head to "Events Calendar", and scroll down to one of the webinars on July 24. There will be two sessions, so feel free to choose the one that works best for you.

  • @LiquidInstruments

    @LiquidInstruments

    25 күн бұрын

    @@marcfruchtman9473 Happy to help! On the top menu of our homepage, hover over "Company" and then scroll down to "Events Calendar." There, you can see all of our upcoming events, including webinars. For our July Python demo, there are two times available. Hope to see you there!

  • @shazam6274
    @shazam627427 күн бұрын

    Can't wait for Dave's review. Also a comparison to Virtins from Singapore would be nice

  • @good_deeds_always_get_punished
    @good_deeds_always_get_punished28 күн бұрын

    Thought Emporium would definitely love to have one.

  • @BMRStudio
    @BMRStudio28 күн бұрын

    Neat! Bit pricey, but nothing else on the market like this. Well done kid!

  • @martinvollderpro
    @martinvollderpro28 күн бұрын

    Very excited for a review... is it already on your bench, Dave?😁

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    27 күн бұрын

    Nope, they said they'd send me the small one though.

  • @abavariannormiepleb9470
    @abavariannormiepleb947028 күн бұрын

    Me after seeing the thumbnail: “Oh Lord, are oscilloscopes now getting gratuitous RGB lighting?!”

  • @mattmoreira210

    @mattmoreira210

    27 күн бұрын

    Everybody knows RGB makes things go faster...

  • @ExplosiveAnyThing
    @ExplosiveAnyThing28 күн бұрын

    I was looking at this instrument for our lab. The huge problem for us NO GPIOS.... whyy?? Put some configurable gpios !!!

  • @Axman6

    @Axman6

    27 күн бұрын

    The Moku:Go has 16 digital pins. From the website: 2 analog inputs Up to 30 MHz, 125 MSa/s outputs 2 analog outputs Up to 20 MHz, 125 MSa/s Digital I/O 16 channels, 125 MSa/s 
per channel Power Supply Up to 4 channels 
(model dependent)

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    27 күн бұрын

    You can connect the small version and get the digital inputs, he mentioned that.

  • @ExplosiveAnyThing

    @ExplosiveAnyThing

    27 күн бұрын

    Yes, thats true but still if you want to integrate the pro version then you can't. I mean, yes, you can always use another instrument of even a microcontroller, but only software triggering.... Edit: Yes, I know it has a trigger input that we could use with our SMU but we also have a switcher board right now as well which is controlled by the SMU GPIOs. This would be great if the pro had this option.... But generally, I think it's a good concept.

  • @tocsa120ls
    @tocsa120ls28 күн бұрын

    The buzzwords are all there, but is the bandwidth? Is the noise floor?

  • @jabbalechat7910

    @jabbalechat7910

    28 күн бұрын

    500MHz bandwidth...

  • @MrRelevance02
    @MrRelevance0228 күн бұрын

    been watching EEVblog since a kid at age 13 i’m now 21

  • @BMRStudio

    @BMRStudio

    28 күн бұрын

    More 30 Years to go 😂

  • @FinnGamble

    @FinnGamble

    28 күн бұрын

    I have good news and bad news. You’re still a kid. But not to worry, you’ll still be a kid 30 years from now. 😄

  • @MrRelevance02

    @MrRelevance02

    28 күн бұрын

    @@BMRStudio 😂

  • @al_lazy3519
    @al_lazy351928 күн бұрын

    It's cool but what happens if the company goes bust? Does it become paperweight?

  • @norbert.kiszka
    @norbert.kiszka28 күн бұрын

    If that can work with Linux laptop, I want one.

  • @s8wc3

    @s8wc3

    28 күн бұрын

    It can if you make your own gui using the http request api lol

  • @Rubacava_

    @Rubacava_

    26 күн бұрын

    Probably an electron app so it can work with anything

  • @s8wc3

    @s8wc3

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@Rubacava_ The gui is built on qt so it could theoretically work, however they likely chose not to release a linux version because their hardware uses custom drivers for the USB interface, which poses a problem for their lowest end (likely most popular) devices which have no LAN port

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut26 күн бұрын

    So, to be clear. This "is" better than owning a 1ch 5mhz CRO? Just asking...

  • @liquidmandotcom
    @liquidmandotcom23 күн бұрын

    I like the name.

  • @Ender_Wiggin
    @Ender_Wiggin28 күн бұрын

    Wish it did eye diagrams so that i could Test thunderbolt and USB C cables.

  • @JorgeLopez-qj8pu
    @JorgeLopez-qj8pu28 күн бұрын

    Words for the algorithm Gods: "Dogs are scientifically smarter than cats, although cats are proven to understand what humans are saying better. I don’t know what that says about us, but meaning, Study shows that cats understand your commands, but don’t care."

  • @chemputer
    @chemputer28 күн бұрын

    This has to be FPGA based, right?

  • @LiquidInstruments

    @LiquidInstruments

    27 күн бұрын

    Yes, it is.

  • @pr0engineer873
    @pr0engineer87328 күн бұрын

    Want

  • @jabbalechat7910
    @jabbalechat791028 күн бұрын

    Mouser are telling me it's a snip at £21k for the Silver system... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ThatMusicGuyAu
    @ThatMusicGuyAu28 күн бұрын

    Damn, if the go had a decent 400V input voltage, this would be awesome for tube audio gear repair and development.

  • @shazam6274

    @shazam6274

    27 күн бұрын

    You are free to buy 2 resistors or a 10: probe for ~$20

  • @danpatterson8009
    @danpatterson800928 күн бұрын

    Grad students' eyes get big...

  • @alch3myau
    @alch3myau28 күн бұрын

    *sniffs* hmm.

  • @MrAlex3461
    @MrAlex346127 күн бұрын

    2 grand for a software unlock!

  • @tom23rd
    @tom23rd28 күн бұрын

    Sexy little boxes for sure. Our guy there wasn't mumbling and staring at the ground, def not a young american engineer 😅

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa196028 күн бұрын

    The original some years ago looked very cool, but the specs sucked. Perhaps they've improved...

  • @asidesigner8542
    @asidesigner854228 күн бұрын

    The price is high, we should wait for Chinese response to this😅

  • @derkeksinator17

    @derkeksinator17

    28 күн бұрын

    Price in USD isn't too bad IMHO. With the chinese stuff the UI is often terrible, which affects useability. And it often does have other shortcomings as well.

  • @wtmayhew

    @wtmayhew

    28 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@derkeksinator17 Agreed. The Moku devices appear to have well polished hardware and software. Imagine what the FNIRSI implementation would be like. It would have about 70% of the function and quality, but you’d never be able to tell where the missing 30% is or how it would affect your measurements.

  • @BaconbuttywithCheese
    @BaconbuttywithCheese28 күн бұрын

    Salesman is young and has learning to do. He's got the correct attitude which is the biggest skill to nurture.

  • @Torchl146

    @Torchl146

    28 күн бұрын

    Well he's not a salesman as he stated

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    28 күн бұрын

    Read the video description and watch the video, he's the mechanical engineer, not a sales person.

  • @ChrisJackson-js8rd
    @ChrisJackson-js8rd28 күн бұрын

    that interface is.... awful? i wonder if there's a less flashy, more accessible version?

  • @shazam6274

    @shazam6274

    27 күн бұрын

    LabView and the Chinese have your dream interfaces

  • @ChrisJackson-js8rd

    @ChrisJackson-js8rd

    27 күн бұрын

    @@shazam6274 really any interface that could be compressed into the half of the visual spectrum i can see would be manageable with a simple personalization menu but theres a point at a which an interface relies on more contrastive colours than can realistically be compressed into such a restricted space

  • @thegoodhen
    @thegoodhen28 күн бұрын

    That sounds like something I would definitely buy! But not before the full firmware has been pirated and offered for free LOL.

  • @tdata545
    @tdata54528 күн бұрын

    1000 AUSSIE BUCKS what's that like 200 USD? LOL.. NO, apparently it's $666 US, how evil. I thought the big boy was $500US lol... And then 1k per instrument. HMM... PRICEY. Edit: $25K for all instruments and future instruments is kind of nice. I don't even use my little $500 entry guy. I don't know how to...

  • @user-ek9go3kf2w
    @user-ek9go3kf2w28 күн бұрын

    A specialized person would be better to give more technical details about a product that cost 15K . Or maybe they already have a solid number of customers and they don't care too much.

  • @PhillipRhodes

    @PhillipRhodes

    28 күн бұрын

    He was probably there with somebody else and Dave just happened to catch the moment when the others had wandered off to lunch, or use the the loo, or whatever. 🙂

  • @user-qn4ct1hq6w
    @user-qn4ct1hq6w28 күн бұрын

    You can tell he's a salesperson that has no idea what he's doing. "A photonic measurements for photon".

  • @EEVblog

    @EEVblog

    28 күн бұрын

    Keep watching (or read the video description), he's the mechanical engineer who worked on the housing and thermal stuff.

  • @ghydda

    @ghydda

    28 күн бұрын

    and @user-qn4ct1hq6w instantly disqualifies himself as not being a decent human

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