EEVblog 1551 - DESTROYED Ukrainian Starlink PCB! - Mailbag
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Looking at a Ukrainian Starlink dish PCB that was DESTROYED by shrapnel!
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so in the middle of a war somebody saw that and thought "holy crap, i should send this to Dave at EEVBlog!" noice! very cool.
@fffUUUUUU
Жыл бұрын
Greetings 👋 from Ukraine 🇺🇦🔱🇺🇦 Thank you to Australian people for standing with us. 🇦🇺Bushmaster military vehicles make a huge difference 👍 saving lives. Please send more!
@olegslab
Жыл бұрын
Yep. I thought "why not? It's unique and it might be interesting". I have dozens of destroyed Starlinks.
@galileo_rs
Жыл бұрын
He fixes them so he has plenty of those at hand.
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are a lot of EEVblog fans here in Ukraine. We don't send much interesting stuff because it's too far obviously and it'll cost a lot of money, but still I'm glad somebody did it.
@a51mj12
Жыл бұрын
Yeah its a war like in your animes, swords and bullets everywhere and nonstop, not enough time to breathe, even less for the thoughts running trough the head of the protagonist, so yeah somebody did the impossible for the LULZ
I love that it's literally blown up but he still wrapped it carefully in bubble wrap lol
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld
Жыл бұрын
its to prevent the electrons from falling out.
@olegslab
Жыл бұрын
@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld Exactly
@fabiotrevisan8922
Жыл бұрын
But it makes perfect sense. After all, it's just been busted by artillery... Nothing that compares to the kind of damage that shippers can inflict on any good. Whatever damage it already had from the shrapnel, would become completely unrecognizable after a trip on the shipping companies' trucks! 😅
@0br0wn0
Жыл бұрын
And not just any bubble wrap, looks like it's anti-static bubble wrap!
Thank you for the video. Round Dishy - older design. Rectangular - newer, simplified and cheaper in production.
I've been using SnapTron domes for about 30 years, some stainless steel but most were gold plated. If you want to put a clear self-adhesive sheet over them to attach them to a PCB and to keep out dirt, on your PCB layout be sure to include a small vent hole under the dome. Otherwise, when someone attempts to press the button, the trapped air will compress and produce some backpressure. For some applications, this wouldn't matter but for others it would. For example, I once made a PCB with a tiny 4mm snap dome that was to be pressed by a pressure diaphragm and it was supposed to activate at a certain force, let's say 50 grams. Without the vent, and depending also on ambient temperature, the force required to activate the snap dome might climb to 100g. By adding the air vent under the dome, the activation force was much more consistent.
@brandonwilliams5853
Жыл бұрын
Excellent point, the data sheet and recommend footprint includes this feature as well.
9:48 -- I think the small holes are to allow for pressure balancing due to temperature fluctuations.
@Kirillissimus
Жыл бұрын
And don't forget about the gases which slowly escape from some types of fresh plastic and glue. All of that has to somehow vent out as well. And there can even be more reasons why you can not have the plastic voids completely sealed.
@Kirillissimus
Жыл бұрын
@eevblogg_2 Oh, really? That is just spectacular news! Can you tell us what it is? :)
@MrKata55
Жыл бұрын
Probably makes it a little more explosion-resistant as well, makes it harder for a pressure wave to bust in the patch antenna prepreg since the pressure can get equalized thru these holes.
H patch is for circular Polarization of the send/receive signal. H patch will determine either Horizontal or Vertical frequency
The holes in the antenna director patch array are probably for pressure equalisation when being transported by air.
Amazing engineering in those Starlink antennas!
@Bob-of-Zoid
Жыл бұрын
What's so amazing about it? The whole Starlink system is ridiculous and absolutely stupid in design! People have all kinds of problems with their equipment and installations, and since only Starlink people can fix it because they will not sell replacement parts to independent repair people, many have waited months for a tech to show up to repair systems they are already paying higher rates for than any other internet provider! Then any complaints about it are dealt with harshly and rudely! Add to that his packing so many satellites (Some have already failed) into low earth orbit, another few batches planned, all kinds of scientific telescopes have had trouble caused by them, it's made launching others rockets way more difficult, with both problems only to get worse, and with them Musk has cut the expected time to the Kessler effect in half! It was some decades ago the first internet satellites were sent into far earth orbit, and with only three of them, covered the entire globe, and they are still working! You cannot do that from low earth orbit, which is why he needs so many, and he lied about the coverage, lied about the price being the lowest, but it's the highest, lied about servicing third world countries first where there is the most need and did the opposite... Elon Musk Is a conman and a fraud, and can't even get newtons laws correct, yet millions of gullible fools think he's a genius! The fact that that stuff is a reality is not his doing, but his engineers, many who know it's a terrible Rube Goldberg way of doing it!
@johnpublic6582
Жыл бұрын
@@Bob-of-Zoid All hail the white paper!
@Bob-of-Zoid
Жыл бұрын
@@johnpublic6582 All hail the white paper!😵💫 Musk is a genius!🤤 Look at the CGI!🤯 Take all of my money!🤑
8:50 Bro they are so worried about noise that they even use curved traces on their block diagram
@olegslab
Жыл бұрын
This is my diagram based on reverse engineering
@L2.Lagrange
Жыл бұрын
@@olegslab Much respect Sir, and thank you for sending this in for Dave to make a video about. Very thankful to you my Ukrainian brother
I would not consider the H-slots in at 13:30 to be the "antennas". They are slots (two polarizations) in the ground plane that couple to the RF from a strip below the ground plane to the next layer, circular patches, which then couple to the circular patches with notches. I would consider the whole stack of patches with the coupling slots to be the antenna. Search for "aperture coupled patch" for more information.
@atmel9077
Жыл бұрын
AFAIK both uplink and downlink is RHCP (according to a diagram I found by googling starlink band plan). So in my opinion the slots in the PCB are for H and V polarization. By driving them 90° out of phase, it is of course possible to obtain a circular polarization. But the info I have may also be out of date. Given the price point, and the fact that each satellite beam serves many users, it would make sense for the UT to be half duplex anyways, so no need for 2 polarizations. If one UT is uplinking and not available for downlink, plenty of other UTs will be available, so the satellite can be full duplex. Starlink time slots are 1.333 ms long, so the UT has plenty of time to transmit a shortened uplink frame with timing advance between two downlink slots.
@hebulba
Жыл бұрын
@@atmel9077 Sure, I haven't looked thoroughly into the details of starlink so this is coming from my general knowledge only looking at the PCBs and the stack. To achieve circular polarization, antenna elements are commonly fed with two feed points in this fashion. Having multiple feeds to achieve the circular polarization (such as here with two orthogonal 90 degree offset feeds) generally results in better polarization purity (circular) than in circularly polarized patch antenna with one feed point. Many inherently circular polarized antenna elements are also rather large, or otherwise difficult, and not necessarily suitable for this kind of arrays.
@cogoid
Жыл бұрын
@@atmel9077 Although older documents said that Tx and Rx were polarized in the same sense, the FCC licence says that RX is RHCP and TX is LHCP.
@atmel9077
Жыл бұрын
@@cogoid Thank you. So the info I had actually turned out to be out of date.
What an amazing piece of engineering, and what a sad cause to get acquainted with its intricacies!
The engineering of a simple monopole antenna makes my head hurt, that array antenna stuff gives me an aneurysm.
Up and down are usually opposite polarities to maximise isolation by virtue of XPI (Cross Polar Isolation). Circular is a pre-requisite for LEO as Linear would require continual skewing as the satellite tracks overhead. Fascinating to see the v2 antenna design adopt the cheaper transparent PTFE (?) sheet material, as used 30 years ago in the original BSB Squarial (made in UK). I fancy the clover-leaf patch and circle patch act to both translate the Circular wavefront to linear and provide directive gain in the cell. Awesome kit. Well done Starlink for supporting freedom. Glory to Ukraine.
Let's see Paul Allen's PCB...
Phased arrays are peak rf voodoo magic in my mind. It can do some amazing things, especially for radar. The NWS here in the states is doing some cool stuff with weather radar using phased array emitters.
Like Dave and a some comments said... about the hole in the "leg" of one patch antenna... mechanically... the hole is used? to equalize thermally generated pressure... however... in patch antenna design... cutouts/holes alter/affect the antenna matching. Do you have to drill a hole in the patches, to implement a pressure equalization mechanism? ... my guess... no.
Hi Dave. Could you do empshield teardown? It seems little strange what numbers they advertise. Huge amp but thin wires, closed box traps heat, box glued and it says patent pending. What's inside is ordinary lightning arrestor? MOV and maybe vacuum tube like in antenna coax lightning protectors?
I looked as these a year ago and could not get samples. Both Mouser and Digikey were non-stock items. hopefully they have gained in popularity and will be available in smaller quantities. We request Snaptron for all our membrane switch purchase orders.
A literal teardown! Nice analysis, it's definitely interesting, although I don't know squat about RF systems. Quite an advanced example of microwave comms. "Maximum Madness!"
@KeritechElectronics
Жыл бұрын
@eevblog_2. hey, ya spambot! You won this time - a ban on the channel. @EEVBlog if you need a mod, I'm in. Gotta take out the trash...
Keep your dome in a vice!
There must be tons of very interesting ex top secret electronic scrap sadly littering Ukraine right now! Might be super interesting to get some teardowns of military electronics!
Any chance they can make a shrapnel resistant antenna?
Hi Dave! You showed the antenna patch on the PCB. But in fact, these are slit antennas. And consequently, vibrators themselves are located on the inner layers of the printed circuit board. Make an addition by disassembling the pcb layer by layer.
@giacomol02
8 ай бұрын
Exactly!
*THAT VEGAN CHOCOLATE TASTES LIKE DOG DUNG.*
@Kirillissimus
Жыл бұрын
All vegan chocolate tastes like crap. Some brands are better than the others but each time I tried I could not force myself to eat more than a few small pieces of any of them.
I think getting hit by shrapnel might indeed be worse than flipping a dome.
@PaulLoveless-Cincinnati
Жыл бұрын
Is flipping your dome some sort of penis humor that Americans won't get or something lol?
@PaulLoveless-Cincinnati
Жыл бұрын
@eevblogg_2 Hey Scam me harder please
As this is broken anyway, you might be able to delaminate with a heatgun. Not the soldering one, but the paint removal one. But you might want to do that outside. I got some pcb's to make bubbles using the heatgun
@cedricb2344
Жыл бұрын
for what use ? Can you entirely remove and isolate entire layers that way ?
Starlink unfortunately can't survive Australia. We have tried multiple ones for comms at an industrial site outside Perth and they keep failing. Very frustrating as 4g isn't up to snuff and other solutions are crap.
@fletcherreder6091
Жыл бұрын
Salt? Looking at the construction of several of these I wouldn't be surprised.
@mrahob275
Жыл бұрын
Get a maritime antenna .. approx 500mm by 750mm
@LackofFaithify
Жыл бұрын
They literally have a maritime version that survives the Texas heat and salt just fine, and looking at Perth, well, you guys live in the arctic ;)
@glennosmond4306
Жыл бұрын
@@LackofFaithify Ant
@ThaVoodoo1
Жыл бұрын
Mine is in hot Queensland, no problems here.
"You call that a knife mate? Now this is a KNIFE"!🤯🤠😂
some day we wont be able to build any circuit boards as the components are getting so small!
The Queen Flash at the end... you're my hero.
Yep, straight to the Pool Room ! ;)
I imagine a lot of these will be coming onto the market soon, maybe its possible to build a enhanced walabot clone with these STM GLLSUABBBA chips?
Pretty sure I understand the HF/VHF/UHF world, but this 10GHz+ phased array stuff is still out of this world to me! This isn't even "RF guys" domain ... this is very specialist gear.
i know its sort of garbage now but actually interesting to see what's in the dish, i always assumed it was slightly more basic construction
@absurdengineering
Жыл бұрын
It is a splendid piece of engineering. Looks deceptively simple.
I'm just trying to get my FM transmitter to cover my neighborhood.
@Mr.Unacceptable
Жыл бұрын
@eevblogg_2 Lying scammer.
Borsch fridge magnet got me. Nice one. Stay safe fellow Ukrainians. Greetings from Latvia! 🐞🐞🐞
So the Starlink terminal isn't bomb-proof ? Come on Elon, there's a war on ! Which reminds me - I worked for a UK MOD supplier. We made relays for the bomb-trolley. They tried using semi-conductors ( in the day) - but the relays could survive a bomb-blast -and the semis couldn't. But my manager went to meet MOD boffins, and they showed him a bullet-proof clip-board...(the relays were a British re-design of the Messchersmitt WW2 relays - they were more advanced than ours, at the time, used more advanced materials, and were self-cleaning)
@thetechgenie7374
Жыл бұрын
Considering one of of the first usually targeted in war is communication related gear as easy to find and lock on to? Then again Elon is selling consumer grade equipment and not for military installations.
@user2C47
Жыл бұрын
I'd think that you _wouldn't_ want to use relays for that application, because intense vibration could cause them to erroneously change states.
@chrisheath2637
Жыл бұрын
@@user2C47 They worked - got blasted - and survived. They didn't really need to work at the time of blast.
@adamrak7560
Жыл бұрын
@@thetechgenie7374 Starlink terminals are not too easy to lock on because of the highly directional communication. There are side lobes though, but you can mitigate them somewhat with strategically placed metal shielding. They do not have camo painting by default, which is a bit of a shame.
i like how he calls it The YouCrane!
Anyone remember the BSB squarial?
Any scrap thermal imaging stuff? Send in everything you've got.
@topduk
Жыл бұрын
SEM imaging of it would be nice to have.
Are the chocolates HEU or Plain?...
DAVE IS EXCELLENT!!!
Daaaaaamn those are some awesome fridge magnets, I love the tractor one 😂😂😂
17:26 (American Psycho)
Thank you, very mysteriously🤪 🙈
Patch antenna was invented in 1953
Freestyl'er, straight from the dome.
It looks like starlink antennas are constructed like ogres....
@KnightspaceORG
Жыл бұрын
The layers mac, what do they mean...
@mdjey2
Жыл бұрын
Ogre is city in Latvia, btw. My friend lives there.
You are the next Oleg, get ready for mobilization))
What happens ?
I feel obligated to leave something in the comments down below. And I don't know why?
@electronpath
Жыл бұрын
It's obvious. You felt that this video needs more views. That's how KZread algorithms works - more user engagement means more views.
Thunderf00t keeps talking that Starlink is scam
2:19 Dave Jones: War in Ukraine is a laughing matter.
great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂
Hi Dave) I am from Ukraine and i love you video ❤❤❤ thig of beauty joy forever ❤❤❤
The chocolate is from Lviv. It's known for good chocolate. Not sure about this particular one but the other ones I tried was pretty good.
@fffUUUUUU
Жыл бұрын
As a Ukrainian I can confirm that Lviv is a chocolate 🍫 and coffee ☕ capital of Ukraine 🇺🇦🔱🇺🇦
@alarjo5873
Жыл бұрын
And I didn’t try any chocolate when I was in Lviv a few years ago. What a shame 🙈
@fffUUUUUU
Жыл бұрын
@@alarjo5873 Please come over after our victory ✌️ But you need to look for not just any, but locally made Lvivskyy chocolate. Ask your local guide 😉
Great video! Thanks Dave & Oleg!
Greetings from Kyiv, and thanks for the great video!
Very cool system, I would prefer a traditional dish however. This construction makes the thing impossible to repair and I am really sceptical about long term weather resistance. Also a dish looks way cooler that this plastic slab imo
@Kirillissimus
Жыл бұрын
The disposable piece of plastic is extremely expensive as it is. Making it serviceable would bump up the cost even more, it would approach modern military radar manufacturing costs. And with a reflector dish construction beamforming is much more limited since you can not put nearly as many elements into the small tranceiver head and that would bump up the price of the satellite side of things. We already have such systems in service but they occupy the geostational orbit and the monthly payments required from their users are substantial. We are basically talking about a marginally practical technology with unclear financial returns here. Even with all the cost reduction measures it is not nearly guaranteed that it will have a bright future and without them the whole idea is doomed for sure. So I would not be so picky about the minor issues and drawbacks.
@user2C47
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, there's not anything _to_ repair except the motors, which are accessible. Everything else is completely solid state.
@userPrehistoricman
Жыл бұрын
Starlink would not be possible with the same kind of dish that does your satellite TV. The LEO satellites are travelling across the sky all the time, so a conventional dish would have to scan the sky constantly. What would you do when the satellite goes off the horizon? Beam forming via a phased array is the practical solution.
@cogoid
Жыл бұрын
@@userPrehistoricman Until SpaceX started to produce inexpensive phased arrays, the vast majority of satcom user terminals used conventional dishes on motorized mounts. Many were used for connecting to geostationary satellites from ships and airplanes and even from UAVs, but some could also track LEO satellites. OneWeb, for example, uses a terminal which consists of two dishes side by side -- while one is communicating, the other one is acquiring the next satellite. The terminal is very bulky and much more expensive than Starlink user terminal though.
@userPrehistoricman
Жыл бұрын
@@cogoid ha, I never thought of using two dishes! Thanks for the info
Lucky it wasn't destroyed by a missile. You would have received a box full of dust.
Extrodinery
The explosion occurred accurately enough and not by chance, if this antenna was so damaged. I wonder what Musk thinks about this review.
Vegan chocolate sounds like a scam.....
@mdjey2
Жыл бұрын
I guess they didn't use milk. Does that count? I don't know what makes vegan.
HEY-CHE pattern (HACHE?)
🤯
Ukrainians spending money providing us good entertainment material, I guess it’s time do donate to organizations supporting Ukraine. Let’s all spend 1$ as a thank you! Dave why not you donate some of the video revenue?
TL;DR: starlink dishes are made by black magic.
Hasta yo entendí la basura de placa que le hicieron al dueño, literal de su diseño de antena no pusieron las terminales de recepción como debían y colocaron puntos del diagrama indicador como conectores los cuales no sirvieron y mando todo a la borda...
Lviv region is famous for making hand-made chocolate in Ukraine. It's theirs feature. And they roast good coffee too, it is soft but still rich taste. They have even 'Coffee Mine' in Lviv :-), where they 'mine' coffee and roast it right here for tourists.
As a Ukrainian viewer I am safe, thank you. Thanks to Australia for all the help.
People die there, lol. People who don’t want to fight. Another piece of that shrapnel might have killed someone. Cringe.
@_BangDroid_
Жыл бұрын
"People die there, lol" so funny
@mrnmrn1
Жыл бұрын
@@_BangDroid_ I think he reffered to the mood of the video, as Dave lol-ed about the shrapnel damage. At least the "cringe" at the end of the line suggests that to me.
Wouldn’t eat the chocolate. Get it tested.
The world's best military technologies are now being tested in Ukraine.
@TC-zt1sp
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are! Leos have already been tested and they (those damn rooskies) proved they burn really well! Let's wait for the Challengers and Abrams! loool!
@olegbashtenko
Жыл бұрын
@@TC-zt1spDo you really think it's so funny that people get killed while defending their Homeland? Your LOL is completely inappropriate.
@TC-zt1sp
Жыл бұрын
@@olegbashtenko Oh really? So... how appropriate was start killing your own since 2014? 14000+- if I'm not mistaken about the numbers, right? Even today you bunch of freak sore losers that can't reply to the rooskies in kind keep shelling civilians just for the fun of it! How appropriate is that you uneducated idiot? What homeland? There's no more homeland, better start getting used it. Look at Iraq. Look at Afghanistan. Look at Syria. Look at Libya. Look at Yemen, and so on and so on... But hey... I bet my ass that this time you were sure the gringos doing what they're doing is just to protect those poor Ukrainians from being oppressed by those damn rooskies, right? Well... enjoy it!
One thin you wont turn on and tear apart are the Russian ballistic missiles captured by ukranians Even if they did the Australian government would come raid in mid video and take it from you, be like "oi david, sorry mate, we need dis for national security, we got our own engineers and scientists"
@topduk
Жыл бұрын
Mail inspection isn't that thorough.
@TC-zt1sp
Жыл бұрын
Well... they won't be of great use anyway. I guess the only thing managing to capture those rooskies' missiles are their targets!
@olegbashtenko
Жыл бұрын
@@TC-zt1sp Hope your house captures one some day, idiot.
Hello everyone
Dave, please note that Kiev (as you pronounced) is russian transliteration of Ukrainian capital Kyiv. russians did their best to spread Kiev transliteration widely, but it would be nice if you use Ukrainian Kyiv instead.
@eumenius
Жыл бұрын
Киев - мать городов русских.
@olegbashtenko
Жыл бұрын
@@eumeniusThere's no vodka here, go home.
And the Starlink fanboys get wet...
It hasn't been *the* Ukraine for decades, just Ukraine...
I'd never eat something sent to me by some random stranger on the other side of the globe. And I bet Dave doesn't either.
@martinda7446
Жыл бұрын
Well, I was thinking something similar. I just wouldn't want to eat anything like that made in Ukraine. A shame, but sensible.
Greetings 👋 from Ukraine 🇺🇦🔱🇺🇦 Thank you to Australian people for standing with us. 🇦🇺Bushmaster military vehicles doing great here 👍
@fffUUUUUU
Жыл бұрын
Please send more! They are saving lives.
@MrASDewka
Жыл бұрын
@@fffUUUUUU nice try Hitler 👍
@micropower8
Жыл бұрын
@@fffUUUUUU - Ukraine would save life if they would talk with the Russians. If not, this will not end very well for Ukraine. You know, Germany, the Americans and all the other European countries do not send what they can to help Ukraine and you should ask: Why? The Americans do get right now 50 billion USD more per year as they got last year, so they have 900 billion USD what they could use. The American military industrial complex need war to exist and they want that a war is running, if it is possible infinite long. Then they get from the American tax payer every year 900 billion USD to fill their pockets. But this is bad for Ukraine, because then they send you so much so that you think you can go forward, but they do not send you enough that you could win this in a limited amount of time. And the reason is not because they are afraid of a nuclear war. If a politician tells you that there is only one possibility what you could do, then think twice and find this what they do not tells you.
@Throckmorton.Scribblemonger
Жыл бұрын
@@fffUUUUUU e-begging at its finest.
@TC-zt1sp
Жыл бұрын
Yes they're! They really do great stoves for barbecue after catching those wild Kornets the rooskies ran out of years ago! looool!
one magnet had the mighty antinov. RIP to the largest plane! and of course to the people who died defending their country.
Glory to Ukraine
@ZolotarevAleksandr
Жыл бұрын
Yes, in America it’s not the same as in Europe, but in Europe Ukraine has already resisted and fed up with its insolent people. Magnets and other nonsense. Until recently, did you know what Ukraine is? Свирид блять нахуй ты несешь это сюда?
@Stinktierchen
Жыл бұрын
Nope!
@vladimirsvirid7705
Жыл бұрын
@@RoderikvanReekum BE FORE .... take out military from Ukrainian LAND'S and dto invade forigion country's ..... dount you think so?
@raxxla1949
Жыл бұрын
Otsossia 😂😂😂
@Noneofyourbusiness2000
Жыл бұрын
@@RoderikvanReekum We, the US, won't let that happen.
0:20 Mhhhhh chocolate with depleted uranium dust.... Yummy!
@rafflesmaos
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that it's also coated with the remains of 10 Patriot SAMs and ashes of 5 Zaluzhnys and 2 Budanovs.
@TC-zt1sp
Жыл бұрын
@@rafflesmaos lmao!!!
@olegbashtenko
Жыл бұрын
Wat? 😂
Greetings from Ukraine!
@lostcosmos
Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraini!
I want to thank all Australians who help Ukraine. Your help is literally life-changing, life-saving. I'm alive and can live and teach students because of all people and all countries who help Ukraine. Thank you all!
@flexairz
Жыл бұрын
How about you Ukranians killing Russians in the Dombas region since 2014 and before that the Jews in WWII?
@churblefurbles
Жыл бұрын
Only thing they are helping to is lead that country to ruin.
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
Жыл бұрын
@eevblogg_2 seems it's a broken bot here.
Even this went political, what a joke
Frame the bits of the Starlink dish PCB and name it "Russia did this"
Putin's war is going so great that Ukrainians have time to mail PCBs to Dave
@Noneofyourbusiness2000
Жыл бұрын
As many of those Ukrainians consider themselves Russian, do you really think he's going to target civilians?
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
Жыл бұрын
Military staff is rotated, not very often unfortunately but still rotated. And there is a lot of support-military teams, and a lot of volunteers who help.
@galileo_rs
Жыл бұрын
You mean Russia does not wage war the same way USA does?
@Stinktierchen
Жыл бұрын
Russia is not there to destroy the whole country. And since when does everything stop working in a whole country if there is a warzone just in some specific areas? Nobody nuked Ukraine so far for it to completely stop functioning.
Is that a fucking satellite?
Slava NovoRussia wipe out the ukronaziis 🇷🇺❤🇷🇺
Thank you to all involved especially the hero in Kiev. Slava Ukraini!
@TC-zt1sp
Жыл бұрын
You'll address that one better using his always preferred "Slava Cocaína!" Eheheheh...
@TC-zt1sp
Жыл бұрын
@eevblogg_2 Oh really? So... what did I won?
@EEVblog - Dave it is highly offensive to many Ukrainians to use the Russian pronunciation of Kyiv (Kiev): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev kzread.info/dash/bejne/dnmFxaaig8XeeMY.html
@rasimbot
Жыл бұрын
Всем пох
@user-bd8ml2zg1h
10 ай бұрын
I live in the south of Ukraine, this is not something offensive here. One pronunciation is in Ukrainian, the second in Russian.
It's not "The" Ukraine. That's the Ruscist way of saying it. Ukraine is a sovereign independent country. "The Ukraine" is a territory that Putin is trying to occupy.
@topduk
Жыл бұрын
I assume you also nitpick being ethnically replaced after being purposefully depopulated.
@toitoitoy
Жыл бұрын
Language police is here and of course there is such race as ukranian. Lol
@erikburman530
Жыл бұрын
@@toitoitoy They are all NAZI's right? Go fuck yourself Ruscist!
Your thumbnail strikes me as insensitive. Not a fan. People are dying, and you treat it as a joke.
@Kirillissimus
Жыл бұрын
If you can not even laugh at war then how are you gonna fight.
I don't really like how Dave approached this topic, calling it "situation", no mentioning of ruzzia anywhere, fun and giggles talking about how it was destroyed. This is the biggest full scale war since WWII, there's a big chance the same explosion destroying this star link killed someone just sleeping at their home, there's a big chance the same rocket killed a child or little baby. This starlink is destroyed because ruzzia is attacking civilians and trying to kill each and every Ukrainian they can, in other words doing holocaust. And Dave saying "I hope all Ukrainians viewers are safe" - he should know exactly that it is not possible, not a single person in Ukraine is safe, this is not a snow storm or heatwave where you could say that. Avoiding calling it war follows kremlin instructions and helps kremling to push this narrative to the clueless people in ruzzia
@dan_
Жыл бұрын
I get where you are coming from, but I'm sure the vast majority of viewers already know what's going on and are in complete support of Ukraine against Putin's idiotic war. I doubt Dave was avoiding the topic purely to keep the pro-Putin Russian viewers happy as he doesn't seem the type of person to care what people think of him. That said, I certainly wouldn't have minded him telling Putin to get F'ed either.
@doogsm6013
Жыл бұрын
This is an electronics channel! If you want to spread propaganda there is dozens if not hundreds of channels to debate geopolitics.
@TomStorey96
Жыл бұрын
You can't even wish someone well these days without someone being offended... 🙄
@KnightspaceORG
Жыл бұрын
You can't expect everyone to only talk about war. It's a channel about all things electronic and it should remain this way.
@jcc4tube
Жыл бұрын
Nobody here is "avoiding" calling it a war.
НАТО будет воевать до последнего украинца
@olegbashtenko
Жыл бұрын
There's no vodka here, go home russian vanya.
Slava Ukraini!!!!
@erikburman530
Жыл бұрын
@eevblogg_2 scam.
Quick, send them more money!
@Noneofyourbusiness2000
Жыл бұрын
We've sent them more than enough money. We should mind our own business, stop trying to have a Russian neighbor join NATO, and stop trying to start WWIII.
@rafflesmaos
Жыл бұрын
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 But Finland can freely join NATO with nary a peep from Russia despite sharing a similar sized border directly with Russia, right? Hmm, almost like the whole "NATO" business is a false pretext meant to distract those not paying any attention to Russia's past and present imperialist ambitions.
@Noneofyourbusiness2000
Жыл бұрын
@@rafflesmaos you think Russia hasn't made a peep? You sound very knowledgeable on the subject.
@rafflesmaos
Жыл бұрын
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 Given that Finland is now in NATO, and wasn't last year, and Russia hasn't invaded Finland preemptively to prevent them from being in NATO, sounds like they haven't made a peep.
@MrASDewka
Жыл бұрын
@@rafflesmaos Finland does not have a Nazi government
Dear Ukraine, As an American I apologize for my government installing a puppet leader who will have your country fight Russia until the last Ukrainian, to try to keep a BRICS nation in line and protect the USDs world reserve currency status.
@ortzinator
Жыл бұрын
Bot
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
Жыл бұрын
That's a bot who is talking some shit. Russia wants to make USSR 2.0 and squelch any Ukrainian who understands it's origin. Russians are just pure Orks.
@Noneofyourbusiness2000
Жыл бұрын
@@ortzinator Good argument. I expected nothing less.
@Noneofyourbusiness2000
Жыл бұрын
@baljdeepinvajuna1363 Biden is to blame, but hopefully you realize the Republicans are guilty in their own right for drumming up fear of China, another BRICS nation btw. We are dealing with a uniparty government that likes to squabble over social issues. They're aligned when it comes to the serious issues.
@KnightspaceORG
Жыл бұрын
@@Noneofyourbusiness2000 Well, he doesn't need to add anything, we all know about bots and literal paid trolls.
already sick of videos related to Ukraine on KZread