Old computers are a passion project. Hard work but fun

Dave gets complaints about the amount of rambling in his video, Dave proceeds to upload a version of the video with even more rambling! Classic.

@Gameboygenius

6 жыл бұрын

Complete with fiddling around with the item while talking. Wouldn't want it any other way!

@EEVblog2

6 жыл бұрын

:-P

@gudenau

6 жыл бұрын

Then there are the people like us that would listen to him all day.

This was my late 1980's and 1990's condensed down to a 39 minute video. The struggle was real...

That was exactly how I remember 3.5" floppy drives, never working when you needed them. It looked like the bios supported CD-ROM so you could install an old Linux or Novell networks server software.

Wow, that was a nice trip down the memory lane! I love old computer stuff.

Love the flashback 🙂 I've got one of these PC/104 things in a drawer somewhere and should dig it out to tinker

I love the dumpster that just keeps on giving. I gotta get me one of these!

This project certainly tested your tenacity... I'm glad you stuck with it Dave.

This was awesome, really appreciate you going the extra mile to get this working :) love small embedded systems :)

Wow, what a drive of memory lane... Thanks for sharing 😀👍

Many USB keyboards and mice from the '00s are dual standard so all they had to do at the factory was to hook up the right lead. That's how those USB to PS2 adapters work, all passive. Useful info for anyone doing any sort of work with retro computers. ;)

I've got a pile of these in complete units set up to run with just a +12 vdc supply. They were meant to be used by a trucking company in the 90's. Ought to go dig em out a see if they boot win95 or linux.

This was great! Cheers, Dave!

Ah yes, how fondly I remember PC104

I'm sure Eliza could help you come to terms with those frustrations getting it to boot up.

@Valenorious

6 жыл бұрын

Dammit, just when I sent it you played it. watch before respond!

Great work !.

When buying a USB floppy, make sure it has USB 3.2 for maximum transfer speeds and future compatibility

Crickey, when these things started to come out, I'd've been making my transition from a C64 to A1200. Mad to think there were miniature computers like this just going around. Of course, it'd've cost several times(at least 10, I'm imagining) the price of said A1200 so I'd've never had one, even a regular 286 or A4000 would've been well beyond my wallet, but it's still well cool to see.

I know of your troubles. In a lot of my personal projects I use old PC's, cuz they're cheap and I have a lot of them. Getting them to get to the point of being able to do anything with them is a real pain because you have to do just what Dave did. I have this old Pentium laptop that I am using in a project and it took me a long time to get it to the point where I could do something with it. I finally got one of those Floppy drive to USB jump drive devices off of ebay and a 44 pin IDE to SD Card device so I could boot from a SD card instead of a hard drive. BTW, Pengo for the win! There was this one arcade I used to go to when I was young and that was the game I always went to!

I believe that is Windows 8, not Vista. That's why the key did not work. :D

@sparkplug1018

6 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the upgrade would work for a 7 or 8 key, could be wrong though.

i loved this video!

Love it

Just found one of these in an unlabelled black box from an auction, I saw the 20gb scsi hdd below it and thought, wow you really couldn't get a CPU mobo this small back then...oh I know what it is, time to rewatch Dave's videos on them.

If you want something nice on this mini computer, I suggest "Dazzle", which is a beautiful DOS screensaver! 😉

Love these retro videos Dave. Rematched your Acorn teardown video recently, thanks for the recommendation to watch Micro Men. Was a really interesting movie. Do you still have that system in the lab?

love it, good ol' days

That brought back memories :-) I 'upgraded' to an 80386 long after owning with an 8086 with an MFM hard disk which was a full size 5-1/4" format with 10MB (megabyte) capacity. After the 8086 I moved up to 80286 so your PC is actually quite advanced compared to earlier versions. On the 8086 I mostly ran Lotus Symphony (a sort of spreadsheet + word processor program) from DOS, but somewhere I also have a Windows V.1 floppy drive which came as an alternative new-fangled OS to CPM which was considered superior at the time!

This bring back my old memory on dos...miss all the dos game...

Nice video, I guess that I have seen some piggyback board without knowing that it was a old standard.

22:20 Sorry to hear about your difficulties finding a PS/2 connector. Picking just the right one must have been a nightmare, in that sea of choices! LOL

....after that helacious battle to even get dos booted, I think every single person who was on the fence abour arduino, is now a fanboy.

Nice video Dave! Would you know how to manage the ISA ports since ISA cards needs sometimes -5V and -12/+12V? Is a separate powersupply (dedicated PC/104 board) needed?

34:00 and that is why I keep my old trusty notebooks, one with 95, one with 98 and one with XP. I have made disks many times over the years. Of course you can get images from the internet, still need a proper floppy drive that works fine.

Dave, I would have been happy to watch the 39 minute version of this video, but I only knew about its existence halfway through the 29 minute video. I don't want to use my time to watch 29 minutes of it twice, so I rather won't watch it at all. That was not very cleverly made. Either put it prominently into the description if there is a longer version on your second channel or something else, because now I feel that I've missed something, which I can only get back by "wasting" 29 minutes watching something I have already seen. Alternatively, you could tell me the time codes of each segment that you put into this video so that I can only watch those.

@GRBtutorials

6 жыл бұрын

The new part is between 24:55 and 27:20, i believe.

Only 10 minutes? I was expecting this to be like 50+ minutes.

Your a Hero!

Dave’s going old style. He has even got dust on the monitor feet.

Could we get a look inside the disk on chip?? Thanks for the content..

hi dave, greetings from the other side of the planet (switzerland) i love this. i am researching these boards atm because im bored with arduino. actually want to use such a board to put on sensors etc or use some I/O ports? then i want to write a C program to access these I/O ports like an arduino? you think this is possible?

If you're doing anything like this again: You don't need to mock around with these bloody floppy drives anymore, you can just use normal CDs, any CD burning tool like ImgBurn oder CDBurnerXP will let you select Bootable 1.4M Floppy Emulation, and then you can just give it a floppy image. This will even work on these old 386'es, because their BIOS is newer...

Is there a PC104 board using the AMD A10-7800k APU and 64GB of DDR3 RAM? as that would have given them build in HDMI video, There is a HAYNES build your own computer book and on one of the pages there is the Vista Business WPA key I actually have the key but I don't think that I would be allowed to upload key, what about CP/M 86 that came with the AMSTRAD PC1912/1640.

I was wondering if you would please help identify a PC104 and another board that it's connected with?

thank you I wish I could find out more about pc 104, I actually work on equipment that have these board in. but the oems change the names of the board to their own internal names. for some reason the machines stop communicating with the network and OEMs blame it on the PC /104 board assembly, and they are sold for about 5K. Yap 5K. it fixes the unit alright. but I am thinking it has to be a memory or some chip that does out right? so why should the customer pay 5K. I love to be able to fix it for a reasonable price under 1K, I be happy they be happy.

More videos like this!

My god this brought back memories of battling with 640k of memory and corrupted floppy disks. Good riddance, I don't miss those times one bit.

You can't use a Vista Business key to activate 8 / 8.1

Stacking a tower of boards, a bad idea for 30 years. Boards plugged into a backplane works OK, more than 1board stacked on another is a PITA.

But Raspberry Pi and Arduino were probably the first to open source their product and have the prices below $50. So sure not the first but they broke grounds in other areas.

So why is this more appropriate for industrial applications than Raspberry Pi et al. ?

You need Win98 (or image of Win98 CD) to create MS-DOS boot disk, because that was the last one who can proper create those disks, or some virtual machine maybe ... then you can put whatever aditional files you want on to this bootable diskette.

Hi, I been trying to figure out a pc104, please help. I need to connect a monitor to it and see if it boots up or does it have an error.. some of the equipment that I work with has them installed inside. it has no commonly identifiable monitor, keyboard or mouse connection. I am a 5 volt contributor on the patreon but for some reason I can not massage any one with my computer. I am still running xp and an old version of the browser, so, that is the reason. but if I can get any push in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.

I have a pcm 9375 ( advantech ) but i don't know how to use the I/O port :(

Kids now days don't know the headaches just dealing with floppy drive.

@nikgolinar4378

6 жыл бұрын

Dan B I'm 13. I know it 😂. I really mean it, i even have 360kb floppies

@sparkplug1018

6 жыл бұрын

Installing drive controller cards, setting IRQ address's. Oh yes the fun of late 80's early 90;s computers. Still fun to mess with every now and then though. Still have the IBM XT set up in the office.

@stonent

6 жыл бұрын

A solid light on the floppy meant you had the data cable connected backwards. Very useful.

arduino complained that the previous systems were too expensive. they never claimed. when did the basic chip come out? i played with that a little a long time ago. it was expensive though. hundreds of dollars to get set up. at least a weeks pay.

CubeSats too :D

doesn't command.com hold format? as in "format c: /s"

@PinguimFU

6 жыл бұрын

Duncan Massive that is part of the format.com file command.com is the basic command line and that's it haha

@Combat.Wombat.official

6 жыл бұрын

Gabriel Paiva ya could of just said that it isn't an internal command inside of command.com, but I see by the 'haha' at the end of your comment that you are probably some 8yr old

@PinguimFU

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry I didn't mean to insult you in any way all I was trying to say was that back in the day when hard drives still were counted I'm megabytes they had to divide everything to save space that's all. PS: a 24 year old here that is just to tired of being serious all the time

@captapraelium1591

6 жыл бұрын

It's not that they had to do so for reasons of disk capacity, it was (and is) considered best practice for each tool do do one job and do it well. Sadly it's a concept only really still embraced by linux.

So I have a USB floppy and the mighty Dave Doesn't ? Of coarse Dave is the King EE I'm just an amateur ..

28:15 LOL

usted parece el fabricante, las mini pc son la vanguardia tecnologicas. Que bueno seria que podamos conectar las memorias ssd directamente al procesador en 2, 4, 8, 16 módulos, y conectividad inalambrica son escritorio remoto por wifi, procesa el 3d y emite un archivo strem. y hacemos una computación 2.0

But does it play Doom?

Play DOS Tank !!

Arduino are cheap toys next to PC/104.

DO NOT use the VGA pinout shown in this video. It's dangerous. The shown pinout grounds all pins 6 to 10, this is WRONG. Pin 9 has 5v on a lot of systems. If you ground it you could cause damage to the machine. PIN 9 IS 5V NOT GROUND.

I hate to be the one saying that but, please, next time clean your throat.

He's probing this when all he had to do was read the spec sheet. Clickbait.