although i disagreed with the views of Koresh, I feel that the way the situation was handled was still inhumane

@MrSeekerOfPeace

4 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. USA governments has its moments of brutal tyranny.

@jefferywilson1840

4 жыл бұрын

I agree much of it was covered up and I believe the dividins were slaughtered.

@faith9624

4 жыл бұрын

They broke protocol so many times and covered it up giving no shits about the children they slaughtered just to save face

@travisfoster8193

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed! The ATF should have road out there along with the Sheriff and 2 or 3 agents.

@cherylthompson3936

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

The government totally botched this whole matter.

@Graymenn

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanallen2889 so does half of washington dc, what is your point?

@JayBee-se8ou

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanallen2889 So when does the ATF go after teachers and other child molesters? Koresh deserved his day in court you fucking fascist.

@pontius2000

4 жыл бұрын

Ethan Allen ...if Koresh was boinking kids, which there is no proof of, then the local/state police should’ve got a warrant and arrested him. Since when is the answer to child molestation to go in and kill all the victims, and also kill the perpetrator without a trial? This was a military action taken against American citizens on American soil, plain and simple.

@soflyguy92

4 жыл бұрын

Ethan Allen So kill the kids then right ?

@mattv2254

4 жыл бұрын

Jay Bee ah yes, because if they can do it so can everyone else good point bro 💯

ATF agents fired the first shots when they killed the five dogs that were living on the compound, (it’s was a mother and five puppies).

@robbiestoly5795

3 жыл бұрын

Poor dogs. They shot the dogs first at Ruby Ridge too. Bastards.

@wisecracker1814

3 жыл бұрын

So, that would be 6 dogs...

@E.C.2

2 жыл бұрын

The "Allies" shot every animal at the local zoo in Dresden on the first night of their fire bombing campaign. Why do they enjoy killing innocent animals?

The ATF agents didn't "try to enter", they charged up in black unmarked vehicles, wearing full SWAT tactical gear, carrying scaling ladders, cameras rolling and got shot to pieces by the Koresh members inside the house. The local Sheriff told the Feds prior to the raid that he could get Koresh to come to his office but they refused the offer. The raid was a total FU beginning with the fact that the ATF got lost, asked a local for directions who then told the Davidian compound that federal company was coming. This had nothing to do with suspected pedophilia as Federal Attorney General Reno stated and everything to do with the Feds wanting to make a point to militia groups.

@danieldougan269

4 жыл бұрын

Arresting David Koresh would have only satisfied the arrest warrant. There was also a search warrant for the compound.

@edmonddantes3640

4 жыл бұрын

@@danieldougan269 Again there was better, more intelligent ways to have served it than storming the compound like Omaha beach. THAT was the contributing factor to the whole tragic debacle.

@edmonddantes3640

4 жыл бұрын

@@stacyeandrew2 The same FBI special agent that was in charge of the Ruby Ridge operation was at Waco.

@dawnjackson6299

4 жыл бұрын

@@edmonddantes3640 really I had no idea! You would think they would never let him handle anything again after Ruby Ridge!

@ChasingInfinite

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Dougan The warrant was wrong in the first place. ATF has no reasonable cause to do the warrant. All guns were legal.

All of those children's names. I cried my eyes out watching the WACO miniseries which showed the mothers trying to cover their babies with their own bodies to protect them from fire. Absolutely heart breaking. The government found themselves not at fault for the fire, despite every other instance where they had used tear gas always resulted in fires.

@jpollackauthor

4 жыл бұрын

What the miniseries didn't show you was their husbands pouring Coleman oil in the hallways and on hay piles and lighting the compound on fire - which the surveillance tapes proved they did. The government sucks, but these people weren't angels. You don't stockpile guns if you're not looking for a fight and you don't move your kids into a compound run by a pedophile who's collecting child brides to repopulate the Earth after "the end times."

@56cadd

3 жыл бұрын

@@jpollackauthor , I agree..similar to 1968-69 at Spahn ranch.

@arcadianicpanic7744

3 жыл бұрын

yep, i like really loved the cyrus representation because he had the best father-son relationship

@kevink296374

3 жыл бұрын

clearly you haven't talked the the survivors since, just running of the old new narrative hey.

@seangray1687

2 жыл бұрын

@@jpollackauthor There is nothing wrong with stockpiling guns, it has been proven that the Davidians did not start the fire and him being a pediphile was never proven. I'm not saying the guy was right but I do believe he believed he was hearing God talk to him. The feds had no reason to do things how they did. They tear gassed in hopes that the mothers would get there kids out if there. They tortured children as bait. They shot at people trying to run out of the burning building. They shot an unarmed man. They should all have been punished.

This dude seems to have done as little research as humanly possible.

@eddieswenson1830

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@serpico727

4 жыл бұрын

Yet he starts the video saying to look it up

@JulStar13

4 жыл бұрын

S1 S1 he also called them a cult. They weren’t. Look it up.

@serpico727

4 жыл бұрын

@@JulStar13 I agree

@MrEd8846

4 жыл бұрын

​@@JulStar13 i guess it depends on your definition of a cult. personally i think religious groups that practice polygamy as being a cult.

the ATF slaughtered these people.

@dinonotdyno9423

4 жыл бұрын

Someone had to do gods work

@soflyguy92

4 жыл бұрын

dino not dyno right! Someone had to kill those kids. You gotta kill em in order to protect em.

@laniwilliamson

3 жыл бұрын

Both sides screwed up

@E.C.2

2 жыл бұрын

How would you all react if the a t f fired into your country church unannounced without warning?

The warrant. David Koresh jogged several times a week with other members of the congregation. He could have been served easily without incident or any danger to law enforcement. As I recall the warrant was over two fully automatic weapons which could have classed them as machine guns. I was talking with a dentist at a conference. He admitted that the largest per capita holders of tax stamps for machine guns in the United States were his fellow dentists. One dentist from California overhearing this conversation looked like he was beginning to have a coronary. Began hyper-ventilating. However culturally shocking it is to the audience, it is perfectly legal within the United States to own a machine gun; as long as you pay the tax, purchase the tax stamp. What was the warrant over? $400 in allegedly unpaid taxes. 80 people died over $400 in tax stamps. That was all the evidence ATF had from their undercover informant, Robert Rodriguez (not the film director). Everything else was a fishing expedition.

@ethanallen2889

4 жыл бұрын

johnnygenlock ...that, and pineapple grenades. But whatever. You are just anti-American.

@SmedleyWarIsaRacket

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanallen2889 David Hardy, who had worked for a decade as a U.S. Interior Department lawyer, unearthed through a Freedom of Information request an ATF “report of investigation” of two undercover agents, who had moved in across from Mount Carmel. They went shooting with Koresh eight days before the raid, an easy opportunity to arrest him if they had wanted to. Can't make this stuff up, just like it cannot be made up that you are ignorant of the facts, you Ethan Allen are wholly ignorant of the facts. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZ1l1LlmmbqbZZc.html

@JayBee-se8ou

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanallen2889 Is it "American" to roll over and let Authoritarian government penetrate you? Are you a citizen or a subject?

@oceanrising6137

4 жыл бұрын

They made the claim there was illegal weapons trade, that they were running a drug operation, and sexual abuse towards children. However, all of these allegations were confirmed to be FALSE! The guns were legally purchased, several members confirmed David never used drugs nor encouraged the distribution of illegal drugs, and as far as sexual abuse... there was a form of child discipline that took place at the compound, but David was accused of this by former Branch Davidians a year before the raid took place and there was no evidence to convict him. So, where did the federal government get this information from? And how did they convince a judge to get them a search warrant?

@johnnygenlock

4 жыл бұрын

@LVhasAIDS Were you aware no ballistics were entered into evidence on their deaths at trial? Bit of a problem, irregularity. Why would that be, LV? Hard as you may find this to accept, the possibility has never been eliminated those were all "friendly fire" incidents. One thing to observe. BATF are not, were not, Special Forces. You get near 80 agents out there going full auto with minimal training on flanking and field of fire issues. Add in weapons fire from helicopters overhead. 10,000 rounds expended in a very short time into a light frame building . . or through a light frame building perhaps? The BIG PROBLEM is that this kaka plan was executed in the first place. Five FBI agents in one Crown Vic arrested John Gotti the crime boss. If you're going to stage a media event, give the majority of the doofs blanks. As it was the whole lot of them expended their last round. If the Davidians had a mind to, they could have stepped outside and taken 80 agents down. Instead they agreed to a cease fire, for what good that did them. Just trying to give some sense of how completely poorly this was executed.

This happened and people STILL trust the government...

@DJPoundPuppy

4 жыл бұрын

@Tripleblade 82 Unless you are a black guy.

@richardgerren1503

3 жыл бұрын

I long ago lost my trust, hope, respect of ANY government entity, officials and or leader. Situation like Waco, ruby ridge etc have only solidified my feeling about all this countries government entities.

@blazedblondiie4203

3 жыл бұрын

The government didn’t set the building on fire.🙄 if u watch all the documents the few children that he allowed to leave drew pictures of the compound burning down before it even did. when investigators asked the kids what the drawings meant they said “you’ll find out.” it was his plan from the beginning to burn it down if that was the only option left. theres voice recording of David saying “pour the fuel” the fuel cans where found inside the Remains of the burnt building. It’s documented proof of the burnt up fuels cans being found from inside the remains of the burnt building. people need to research everything before they give false accusations.

@blazedblondiie4203

3 жыл бұрын

But I think the whole thing should have been dealt with in a more humane way. Especially since it involved children 😥

@JD-nr8hf

2 жыл бұрын

"You either understand history or you trust the system. You can't do both."

It looks so peaceful there, you would never imagine the hellish events that occurred there years ago.

@heathmcrigsby

4 жыл бұрын

A brutal slaughter by a tyrannical government

@MusaKitty

4 жыл бұрын

Waco isn't peaceful lol

@Logan-zg1ir

4 жыл бұрын

Musa Kitty in 1993 it was peaceful the sherrif didn’t even holster a firearm when he was on duty

@heathmcrigsby

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicolehaw1088 So if David were a pedo why did the ATF invade them?

@sherpaderpdingo3405

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicolehaw1088 imagine taking the word of the mass murderers lol

One of the FBI snipers pulling triggers in Waco was also the sniper that killed Randy Weavers wife at Ruby Ridge. Now he's on the board at the Magpul company. Why he isn't in prison baffles me.

@DimebagisPrime

4 жыл бұрын

Are you sure its Magpul? I thought it was Troy Industries

@itsmemckee2110

4 жыл бұрын

@@DimebagisPrime I think your right. I knew it was one of those big corporations.

@hhluvzmagik

2 жыл бұрын

His name is Lon Horiuchi.

@jedsteelwell2354

Жыл бұрын

Because the authorities aren't treated the same as citizens they get a pass for murder because they are doing it for our corrupt government

6:10 Or maybe somebody just forgot their fork after they ate lunch the day before.

@pattripp5772

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Taylor Right ! I thought the same thing !

@colinmcquaid4866

4 жыл бұрын

Building was burnt to the ground I highly doubt any managed or thought to grab cutlery before leaving the building....idiot

@blahblah37106

4 жыл бұрын

@@colinmcquaid4866 the fork would be a bit charred or at very least dirty then lol

@mariarichard3261

4 жыл бұрын

It "magically" stayed shiny after 25 years lol...is this guy serious? I mean c'mon, landscapers probably left it behind after their lunch.

@erictaylor5462

4 жыл бұрын

@@mariarichard3261 God works in mysterious ways LOL.

I can't believe this happened in 1993...wow what happened to the time? Remember this so clearly. Very sad and disturbing.

@DonnaChamberson

4 жыл бұрын

Another burger another hot dogs and fries 🎶wishing you well hope your health don’t go to hell well 🎶

@shirleycameron7718

4 жыл бұрын

Should be demolish to the ground.....

@JimD410

4 жыл бұрын

Seems like yday don't it

@medievaltimes6473

4 жыл бұрын

Well Tina, when you sniff glue 3 days a week, odd things hapoen.

@AdamsBrew78

4 жыл бұрын

I was 15, watching it go up in flames live on TV at school.

You need to do MUCH better research, Mr. Bell. Your statements reflect the "official" version of what happened, which is not what really happened! Do your homework!

@robbiestoly5795

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@xi-aern7884

3 жыл бұрын

Where are your FACTS taken from?

Even if Dave was wrong, you can't judge the remaining members of the church for his actions.

@FirstnameLastname-do1px

4 жыл бұрын

There where children there as well

@IttyBittyPretty.

4 жыл бұрын

@Scott Murphy Who's to say he was...? And even if he was none of them deserved what happened to them.

@balthasardenner5216

4 жыл бұрын

"Even if he was wrong"? Are we really considering the possibility that child-rape is not wrong? If he had a raped a 12 year old boy and every adult in the compound had condoned it we wouldn't be debating "if he was wrong." Fuck that. Children deserve a childhood free of rape, even girls, you asshole.

@balthasardenner5216

4 жыл бұрын

@@IttyBittyPretty. Who's to say child-rape is wrong? God told him to do it so it's all good!

@IttyBittyPretty.

4 жыл бұрын

@@balthasardenner5216 Clearly everyone here knows he was no saint. He had some sick ways and to be honest most religious leaders seem to be preying on the young now. In spite of what David has done he didn't deserve to die how he did. None of them deserved it. And if you feel any different then your sick.

I saw that place burn to the ground on live TV. It was a crazy story. I live about fifty miles from Waco.

they claimed it wasn’t an attack while setting the building on fire and using tear gas.

@freshcharge

4 жыл бұрын

Thunder Saber CS gas. Only to be used outdoors to disperse riot crowds. A trained soldier who has to be gassed can't even deal with it let alone children.

“They dug our this storm shelter.” “I guess it was some kind of combat plan.” Bro, what? You just called it what it was.

@gogreen3895

4 жыл бұрын

Lots of tornadoes in Texas so sounds like an excellent plan to me. Use an old bus shell and bury it. Tunnel to get there.

I was born on the property and raised a Branch Davidian. If anyone has questions or would like to see photos and videos of from survivors and or have a conversation with one of us you're welcome to come join our Facebook group "Branch Davidian Massacre Survivors". Be sure to read the rules before you engage with the group.

@stingray650

5 жыл бұрын

Did David Koresh discipline you as a little kid and was it super bad or a normal spanking type of thing?

@bigdaddytrouble1

5 жыл бұрын

@@stingray650 I was given punishment from David through my dad & grandpa. Normal spankings & groundings. Never beaten or excessively punished by Koresh or anyone else.

@stingray650

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, some articles make it sound like kids were horribly beaten in the extreme for spilling a glass of milk...etc.

@bigdaddytrouble1

5 жыл бұрын

@@stingray650 Koresh was my uncle by marriage & I was born & raised around him. I only remember David's son Cyrus being spanked by his dad & thinking he was overly aggressive with how hard & the number of swats he always got. I don't remember any other kids being disciplined that way by Koresh or anyone else. He was strictest with Cyrus & i always felt bad for him.

@bigdaddytrouble1

4 жыл бұрын

Now called " Branch Davidian Survivors Waco " on Facebook

I went through training with the Dept. Of Corrections, one of the topics we discussed was the usage of CS gas which is what the ATF used. You can't just pump CS into a building indiscriminately, that alone can kill people. Additionally, it can become combustible in high concentrations and with the introduction of incindiary devices (FBI admitted to utilizing flash bangs while pumping CS into their compound). This was all over the accusation of 2 fully automatic weapons that at the time of the siege there was NO EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THEIR EXISTENCE ON THE PROPERTY. The ATF carried out this failure to redeem themselves after the murders of Randy Weaver's son and wife some 8 months prior at Ruby Ridge. Gun's don't kill people, THE FEDS DO

@thatoneguywithtwothumbs

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly he just wanted to believe what he believed and be left tf alone

@Goosewaum1

Жыл бұрын

Also, CS gas had recently been banned by U N….

@Goosewaum1

Жыл бұрын

I guess J Reno…didn’t get the memo…

Atty Gen Janet Reno was questioned by Congress for the way this situation was handled, but being a government official means you are NEVER prosecuted.

Koresh may have been a cult leader but those poor children and other followers didn’t deserve such a horrible death. The government handled the whole situation wrong, and it’s a shame all those who died.

I will never forget the scene on the television when I walked into my house. My Father was watching T.V. very intensely, so I glanced at the screen to see what he was focused on. I was shocked to see a tank that was battering the side of a building; trying to knock it down. People were screaming, there was chaos, and I assumed it was taking place in another country during a political upheavel of some sort. I turned my head and asked my Dad "what country is this taking place in?" He answered "Texas". I was shocked. I feel very strongly about the incident and feel very badly for the people who were burned to death, including the little girl who was clutching a Bible in her hand when she was set aflame. The research I did into this matter made my soul cringe at the sight of the carnage. This was a terrible act committed by the government. A Cult? Almost all of the mainstream religions fit the definition. It was an considered an unpopular "cult" by the government but the people were well liked by the neighbors and town.

@ethanallen2889

4 жыл бұрын

vjd 12345 ....Koresh was boinking kids you wild animal! 🤦

@thebluewhale8891

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanallen2889 Go away.

@ethanallen2889

4 жыл бұрын

Phone Phone ....you are disgusting

@kittyprydex

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they were great neighbors except for the pedophilia.

@Young-wi9ut

4 жыл бұрын

They were a cult, not unlike that of most sects of the Abrahamic religions, but they were definitely on the extreme end, regardless of how you may perceive the events that unfolded, the fact remains that among many other things they definitely perpetuated, condoned, and participated in pedophillia...not to mention that they were responsible for the well-being of 23 innocent children in their care who they CHOSE to let burn to death or shot them in the head, instead of releasing them for their safety and tensions mounted..them and them alone are the murders of those children. If some secular person allowed a child to be put in danger then you would say they were responsible..but all of a sudden since “GOD” told them it was their destiny it’s okay...if there is a hell I hope they are in it suffering terribly.

I went there 12 years ago and all the tunnels were exposed but full of water, and the ground all around it and a few trees were still pretty charred! You have to drive miles and miles rough dirt roads just to get to it, and its anything but a peaceful place! It was extremely eerie and the fact that something terrible happened there was evident in the aura of the place! Pretty crazy place

A major event in our history, and you did a fantastic job of capturing the site. Interesting how they put the ATF memorial on the site.

@SLYGARR

6 жыл бұрын

Don't Google what happened. The FBI covered this whole thing up. Your government MURDERED WOMEN CHILDEREN AND MEN. They killed a teenager on a tower. The ATF started the fires in the building and shot people trying to escape. There's a little thing called freedom of religion. The Branch Davidians had been a CONGREGATION for decades. What's creepy and chilling is you are misinformed and biased against innocent people. THE ATF AND THE FBI MIHANDLED AND RAILROADED THESE PEOPLE. Oh gosh, they were so weird. And the whole stockpiling of weapons BS? They.ate in TEXAS...they were also liscensed gun dealers. Ask the Sherriff..he used to use their shooting range. Ask the local coroner why the government confiscated bodies?. And then they bulldozed the whole c.f. time scene. Hmmm. Your naive and misinformed.

@Frankybroadcast

6 жыл бұрын

Shame the ATF memorial didn't have as many names

@deborahc.crawford256

6 жыл бұрын

What a slap in the face to have an ATF memorial there! Takes a lot of damn nerve!

@waynehancock7488

6 жыл бұрын

waa waa cry me a river......You kill a cop you die. They had ample time to leave and they chose not too. Case closed.........

@mjk-th2tm

6 жыл бұрын

I think the property is now owned by the anti-Koresh faction, which is led by the Roden's who was in a rival with Koresh. They may have a more sympathetic viewpoint toward the law enforcement than Koresh did.

Let’s call it what it was “The Waco Massacre”

Your commentary on this injustice is flawed throughout the whole video. You watched too much TV coverage and listened like a sheep

Traveled there to contribute to the rebuilding fund and to personally assist. When I noticed NO cross shown on the blueprints, I asked about that was told they didn't seem to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. Got on my motorcycle, drove the 5 hours back home, money still in my saddlebag

Prolly not on the fork, I’d imagine it would be a bit more weathered after sitting out for 26 years?

What's that saying? "The only difference between a religion and a cult is a religion is tax exempt and a cult isn't"? ;)

@anitasmith3332

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Beazer that's not entirely true Scientology is believed to be a cult but as far as the public knows it's tax exempt

@Duckie43J

6 жыл бұрын

The difference is just a couple hundred years, nothing else.

@thesilentdiva

6 жыл бұрын

And u can leave a religion

@bigdaddytrouble1

5 жыл бұрын

@@thesilentdiva Plenty of people left the Davidian group in the 11 years while I was there, even my own mother and more than a dozen aunts & uncles did as well! It was a religion!

@turkeymanmcgee8231

5 жыл бұрын

Praise Vernon!!

Why exactly did they have to die? Who was under DIRECT threat? Wasnt the initial search warrant a knock warrant? You know very little about what happened there and its been proven in a court of law that FBI/ATF acted illegally.

I had to stop reading comments. This video stirred the crazy pot and they’re spilling over lol It was a cult & Dan was stating what he saw on the site. Ppl need to RELAX. Great video, Dan!👍Love ALL your content. In fact, I’m going to become a Patreon supporter Friday so you can continue what you do!

They didn't worship Koresh. They worshipped with him.

@MetaKnight964

7 жыл бұрын

Why should anyone believe a koresh lover like you?

@MetaKnight964

7 жыл бұрын

Except they took everything he said at face value.

@figurefour633

6 жыл бұрын

jannisares he though he was the masiah, the sinful masiah. Lol

@stevenlewis1648

6 жыл бұрын

?? Wives gave up their husbands and kids thinking he was the lamb of God.

@bigdaddytrouble1

5 жыл бұрын

@@MetaKnight964 such a child! Calling someone a "Koresh Lover". Grow up little boy & come back when you actually know what your talking about

“Closing here, I’m going to close it out....I found this fork.” -the human version of squirrel

I vividly remember an ATF agent on the roof tossed a Grenade in the window right after another ATF agent went in, and the agent shot back through the wall and hit the dude on the roof. Looked like a total set up. That footage is hard to find

@dickenya3278

4 жыл бұрын

It was tear gas idiot. There is footage of that everywhere.

@Goosewaum1

Жыл бұрын

Wow…I read in a comment that the ones that went in were once body guards of B Clinton….can’t remember the documentary I watched…

Where did you get that anyone there worships David Koresh or ever did for that matter?

@TotsNater

3 жыл бұрын

They DID worship Koresh. He claimed to be "The Lamb" of the Bible, a title frequently ascribed to Jesus Christ. The only one who could open the Seven Seals in Revelation. Koresh put himself in that position and his followers did not question it. They willingly went along with it and were prepared to die for him and their cause. These are well-established facts, and they can be found in any number of books on the cult.

@010203109

3 жыл бұрын

@@TotsNater He never said he was the second coming of Christ. He claimed to be a lesser, sinful messiah, never Jesus himself.

What is so creepy? It is so beautiful and peaceful there. If you had done your own research, you wouldnt be creeped out. The raid started with military force against a church with women and children in it on 2/28/93. Fifty one days later it was burned to the ground. Next time you visit try talking to someone. Then do an experiment. Call the ATF and try to talk to them. You will see thedifference real quick.

Complete surprise to me that members of the group/cult are still there. I'm also surprised, Dan, that the site seems to be open to the public and that you and Will could walk around undisturbed. I noticed that the memorial with all those names and dates on it had rocks along the top like the Jewish custom of leaving stones on graves. I didn't follow the siege and fire when those events happened but I do remember them. I'm reminded of the Jonestown murders and suicides from 1979. I couldn't look at the newspaper photos for a week, they upset me that much.

@EphemeralProductions

8 жыл бұрын

apparently, Branch Davidian is an offshoot of Seventh Day Adventists I guess, and they've been around since at least the mid 50's. Koresh was just one of them that got a little carried away in the teachings, apparently. So they still exist just like the existed before Koresh, and probably these Davidians here are people that followed the same stuff Koresh did; possibly not.

@southsydesasha7268

8 жыл бұрын

Jonestown 1978 yes its similar but he had nowhere near the amount of members Jim Jones had(1000's) . Actually Jim Jones's son Stephan was going to try to get involved when this happened bc it was so similar and he thought he could help. :/

@sdrfz

8 жыл бұрын

When I visited back in the 90s, you could walk the grounds after paying a small fee to a lady who lived there.

@peeppoop9

7 жыл бұрын

I was going to reply about the dissolved Koresh/Branch Davidian affiliation, but my response would've been too similar to this man's. But still, he's absolutely right. I visited the compound about a month ago, and the people that live there now DO NOT worship Koresh, or are waiting for his return. In fact, if you walk up to the church doors, they have a pamphlet that almost shames Koresh for thinking he was a prophet. Just wanted to clear that up. A very sad and fascinating place though, nonetheless. RIP to all the victims of that day.

@otterwv1

7 жыл бұрын

Andrew Brendan nn

I live about 30 minutes from this place and I didn't know there were still Davidians out there....nobody here talks about it anymore, horrible to be known for that....great video as always Dan :)

@timdipayanmazumdar1089

Жыл бұрын

A lot of these people were looking for a place to belong. they fell for Koresh and his utterances. I saw a Aussie person who survived and still thinks David Koresh will be resurrected. This is Texas - I cannot expect any better from TX.

@jrsinger78

Жыл бұрын

@@timdipayanmazumdar1089 do you live here? That’s an assanine thing to say. The whole damn state isn’t insane…. That’s an uncalled for response.

Thanks for braving this Texas heat Dan. Great video. I never actually knew any structure still remained of the Branch Davidians.

@010203109

3 жыл бұрын

We the people, will ensure they outlast the ATF. It's too corrupt a bureau at this point and must be disbanded by congress and the president at the earliest opportunity for the safety of everyone involved. Hopefully in 2025 this can finally be done.

Does anyone else remember the Bradley tanks shooting fire into the compound?

@jerrymartin6852

6 жыл бұрын

And dropping toxic gas in the bunker where the children were hold up with the women. Waco Rules Of Engagement.

@BLUNTESSTBOOT233

5 жыл бұрын

@@jerrymartin6852 tear gas isn't toxic

@imscobol

5 жыл бұрын

@@BLUNTESSTBOOT233 ...and CS gas is a FAR CRY from tear gas... See Waco: Rules of Engagement, and Waco: A New Revelation (while youtube allows them to stay)...

@laurelbozman6997

5 жыл бұрын

And the Branch Davidians refused to cooperate and shooting at the officers first

@hanorabrennan8846

4 жыл бұрын

@@BLUNTESSTBOOT233 Only to the eyes.

That place is so eeerie visited with my mom snd grandma i live in Waco Texas

@Weddingplanner74

4 жыл бұрын

Yes!! We visited there as well. I felt a heaviness there. Very sad.

Branch Davidians existed before David Koresh and is an offshoot of the Davidian Seventh-Day Adventist Church. So it's not that strange they still exist

Thanks for making this video. What a sad event that was. Gives me the sads watching the video, but they built a nice monument.

WATCH WACO A NEW REVELATION. WATCH DAVID THIBODEAU A SURVIVOR. YOU NEED TO GET BOTH SIDES THE STORY NOT JUST THE FBI ATF SIDES. THE ARE SO MANY BOOKS DOCUMENTARY ABOUT WACO.

I am 55 and remember when that happened. I always thought it was wrong what the government did. I felt they could have arrested David Koresh somewhere like at a store.

@robbiestoly5795

3 жыл бұрын

The government is wrong. Period.

Nice video - I remember this like it was yesterday- watching this on tv everyday :/

Cult to you but had a biblical message for gods people these godly people know David's message. God bless every church member living godly. All that choose to live godly will suffer persecution. Rest in peace waiting for Jesus soon return.

do some more research and get your facts correct. since when are forks creepy?

I would love to go metal detecting there

This event should really be considered along with Ruby Ridge. I don't believe they were stand alone events but rather an orchestrated series of events. The government didn't "botch" anything. This was planned and executed as planned.

@marilynkennedy8236

2 жыл бұрын

Also the date that Waco happened is significant to American history, 19/20 April. Timothy McVeigh launched his bombing attack in Oklahoma city on that date also. It was a kind of protest at the way the Government carried out their assault on Waco. I saw a comment on a video recently where someone said that Timothy McVeigh was a survivor of Waco, I don't know how true that is.

the nextflix movie that came out really put it in a new perspective. They were murdered by the FBI. It was not a suicide at all.

Govt officials should of and should still be prosecuted and sent to prison for this debacle!!!!

"cult" You watch a lot of TV, don't you?

@sceneboylife

4 жыл бұрын

Agent 99186 it pissed me off when he said that

@oatmeal7563

4 жыл бұрын

the lines between a cult and a religious group are kind of blurred in this situation. there were quite a few red flags

@freshcharge

4 жыл бұрын

oatmeal oh? You were a member at that time? What gives you the lead on inside information that wasn't fed to you via the news?

@orangeboy97

4 жыл бұрын

@@freshcharge Taking other people's wives sounds cultic to me.

@supergeeky7529

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Cult.

Just visited the compound today. There’s such a feeling of heaviness there. Many unanswered questions and unnecessary deaths.

It was not a cult. What a disrespectful thing to say about those people that were murdered in cold blood.

I remember when the siege/massacre happened like it was yesterday. I had just moved into my first apartment and I was at Sears buying a few things and every TV in the electronics department was showing this on the news everyone in the store (or at least it felt like it) was gathered around the televisions watching the fire and a lot of people were crying thinking about all of those innocent little ones and how scared they must have been! It was such a sad situation. As much as David Koresch was whacked out of his mind there had to have been a different way this could have been resolved but then again I don’t think Koresch was going to let it happen any other way once it all started.

Creepy vid Dan. Can't believe there are still followers. I remember this. Felt so bad for the children. Koresh was one sick dude, but it could have been handled so differently. I know a lot of the women wanted out and their kids, didn't have a chance. Sad place.

@PrimateProductions

8 жыл бұрын

wrong...you need to do a bit more research and not just believe what the government and their media wanted you to believe

@bigdaddytrouble1

5 жыл бұрын

None lived there back then but the owner allows visitors.

I went there about a year after it happened. The survivors had painted arrows showing scorch Mark's from incendiary devices and there was a trailer used as a small museum. I talked to many of them.

“So In closing, I found this fork, very creepy, see you guys” I lmao

Well you found a new fork. Must be apart of the massacre. 🙄🤣

- what's creepy is what this government did to a group of people that were not really doing anything.

@rickster348

8 жыл бұрын

Conran Thomas - lol, I think burning children alive is pretty abusive, too.

@KCOWMOO

8 жыл бұрын

+rickster348 It's sick and satanic what they did.

@rickster348

8 жыл бұрын

KCOWMOO - the religious group or the government?

@KCOWMOO

8 жыл бұрын

+rickster348 The wicked government and there old burning child sacrifice ritual.

@evelyn9219

8 жыл бұрын

You do realise that the group was marrying underage girls, marrying more than one underaged girl, haveing children with them and abusing them right? that group was disgusting and doing numerous illegal things.

mr bell, i am not a davidian nor 7th day adventist, however you should educate yourself before you label the person who was wrong as david koresh. shame on you.

@aimlesslost

2 жыл бұрын

The government handled the situation completely mindfuckingly wrong but minors were being sexually abused and DK wasn't an innocent man , sorry buddy.

Since COVID people are acting like they have learned how to pronounce a new word “Tyranny”. However, I do agree with its use in this scenario.

One, They don't worship David Koresh. The name existed long before David Koresh was even born. His name was changed to David. Two, ATF shot first. Trial proved this but, they were never punished. The government busted them because, they weren't paying taxes. First shots fired were ATF. Occupants shot back in self defense because, they never announced they were coming. No warrants either. It's actually legal to shoot a cop/s who arrive with force unannounced and unwarranted n Texas. That's what they did. There was no evidence of rape or child abuse. Just unregistered guns (passed down, donated) and tax evasion and the government didn't like it. Unnecessary force for the crime.

@hackchewspit1956

7 жыл бұрын

Corey M well said

@royboltz6945

6 жыл бұрын

Those words will come up again, how will you answer?

@arnoldpalmer3748

6 жыл бұрын

Corey M I’m amazed. Absolutely everything you just said was completely wrong.

@thatcommie2195

6 жыл бұрын

Corey M fact check: they weren't busted for Tax Evasion. they were fingered for reports of child abuse (which came up false), turning rifles automatic (which is a bs excuse), and intercepting a UPS shipment of Dummy Grenades. PD in Waco did get a proper search warrant but ATF did shoot first... then Burned down a compound full of innocent people. so what if they were religious nutjobs? they weren't hurting nobody and in the end, they were protecting they're Property. grim tale in American History but they won't DARE mention this in schools or even the Raid of Ruby Ridge, which resulted the death of an innocent pregnant woman and a few others.

@ianucci

6 жыл бұрын

Amazing, almost everything you said here was incorrect.

they got funked, USA goverment had no purpose there, IMHO Adam, great job being respectfull.

@shoover2889

4 жыл бұрын

I can agree with that. What frustrates me most is that these people followed him and were ignorant enough to not see any issues with what he taught. I know the government made a ton of mistakes, though. I don’t agree with how they addressed it by any means. I do think they needed to intervene in some way, though. And for the sex stuff... the fact that he said he would “take the burden of lust on himself so no one else had to” is insane. No one else was allowed to have sex. And they’re wives were taken away. But it all goes back to them following him at their own will.

@easysnakeoven6185

4 жыл бұрын

Sam Hoover There was no evidence of child sexual abuse. It was a claim made by one person that has no backing by any evidence. If you want evidence, look into the sounds of rabbits being killed the government forces blared through loud speakers at night.

@shoover2889

4 жыл бұрын

I never said the government didn’t make any mistakes. Or that they’re perfect. Also it’s all pretty open for debate as far as I’m concerned. There’s stories from both sides. You have your opinion, and I have mine. 👍🏻 And I’m fine with that.

@DonnaChamberson

4 жыл бұрын

Frederick Norton OMG child abuse enabler detected!!!

@SethNemah

4 жыл бұрын

@Ty Wert Now that one is understandable and I wouldn't bat an eyelash if they did.

I was living in Killeen when that all went down. I felt so bad for the innocent people and children that were involved in that.

Janet Reno's fault. She had no business butting in to the situation. They easily could have kept waiting them out. Always the children who end up paying for adults' ignorance and greed.

@panzer-head

8 жыл бұрын

Yes. The ATF led the initial raid, and they had absolutely no jurisdiction over child welfare matters, which was the main justification Reno gave for launching the raid in the first place. Nobody was held accountable. It can happen to you...

Alex Jones raised the money to build that church.

@AdamsBrew78

4 жыл бұрын

Did he really? That’s about the worst character for them to be associated with. Makes Koresh seem like a rational, normal American in comparison.

@AdamsBrew78

4 жыл бұрын

@digital warfare If you’ve researched Koresh or heard from people who knew him, he doesn’t strike me as the type who’ would encourage his followers to inflict pain on people who’ve recently suffered devastating loss in their life. To inspire and encourage followers to bully, harass and threaten parents who whose children were recently murdered is one of the most evil and cruel things I’ve ever seen a public figure do in my life. If you’re one of the type who were ok with Alex Jones’ treatment of the Sandy Hook victims and victims families, you’re an extremely sick, disgusting person.

@Melted-Kuchi-kopi

4 жыл бұрын

@digital warfare you're*

The fact that's maybe the most sickening, is that Timothy McVey cited his reason for the Oklahoma City bombing was revenge for the Waco tragedy.

@ElphabaHeartshaven

8 жыл бұрын

WTF are you even on about?? Kartash was a nutcase, and McVey (equally nuts) sympathized with him. It's not the media's fault that both were completely psycho. My comment had nothing to do with politics, I'm not even old enough to remember OKC or Waco, I barely remember when McVey was executed. I'm just stating a fact that's been out there for 20+ years, that people on this cesspool of a website would understand if they'd just take off the tin foil hat for 10 fucking minutes and do their damn research.

@samcottrell5455

8 жыл бұрын

GOD! you people are fucking stupid, you need to educate yourself on a subject matter before you comment on it. so fucking typical.

@NyuuMikuru1

8 жыл бұрын

+Jacob LaFreniere Yep,debunked tho.

@skhateanddestroy1252

8 жыл бұрын

Watch the documentary A Noble Lie then come back and comment again. You are the one who needs to do some research!

@MetaKnight964

7 жыл бұрын

Alex Jones doesn't believe that nonsense, try again.

That piano intro is the same one that Lazy Masquerade uses in his videos! Only on a different key. LOL Not that it's a bad thing, since Kevin MacLeod is copyright free music. I just recognized it, is all.

Its a storm shelter its in mid Texas where they have tornados all the time

No matter how it all went down, or why, it was a tragedy. A friend visited the site, feeling fascinated by everything, but once on-site, he got an extremely strong vibe he described as "you shouldn't be here, it's time to leave."

@navcop031

6 жыл бұрын

Jonas Clark Was just there a couple days ago. The place does have a vibe to it. Kind of heavy. Oppressive.

@E.C.2

2 жыл бұрын

Bless the ground and bldgs with traditional Holy Water.

@JonasClark

2 жыл бұрын

@@E.C.2 You'd really need the Branch Davidians' permission for that. It IS still their site.

@E.C.2

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonasClark Agree, it's a suggestion.

This video was unforking believable... I'll never forkget it.

26 years later and I'm still in shock....

My dad lives in Waco, TX. Ive never been there to visit either, so thabks for the view! love your stuff.

Weird fact, Internet legend Alex Jones helped build the new center

They don’t worship David Koresh and he was speaking the word of god the word messiah means a person that leads a group of people and the people worship god not David

I’ve been there two times in 2009, 2014. As you drive in there is a trailer house on the right side. The man that lives in the trailer is the minister of the new davidian church. He was very nice and it was interesting to talk to him. He was there when Koresh was but he left sometime before the raid/siege. In 2014 when I talked to him he’d had part of his leg amputated. Diabetes maybe? He may not be alive anymore. But if you go stop at the trailer and chat with him. He enjoys telling the story of what happened there.

Thank you for your time effort and this upload.

The cult actually was a round for about 60 years before him

Cool research bro! If you're gonna "film it", educate yourself.

I was in Dallas a few weeks ago and was strongly drawn to visit this site. I'm glad that I did. I am still processing my emotions about it. There's something about the loss of the innocent children that affects me so strongly. I left there and went to the Texas Depository where Oswald shot Kennedy. Then to the graves of Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow. Left that city so depressed, I had to seek therapy. Just kidding, but certainly left there thinking what a crazy place this world can be at times.

Never forgot hearing about Waco. 'Eerie' perfect in title.. Just shocked building was rebuilt & people still living there..

I had no idea there were remaining members still living there. Are they actually living there on the old compound or do they live nearby? Did any come out to talk to you? I guess if the land is public, the members can't permanently live on that parcel of land.

@bigdaddytrouble1

5 жыл бұрын

Traci B, None lived there back then but the owner allows visitors.

Happy 69th video on this channel DB!

The raid occurred just a few days after the first World Trade Center bombing, and reports in the media were that Koresh had recently purchased 2.5 tons of ammonium nitrate, which is was popularly used in truck bombs. The Branch Davidians weren't farmers at the time. Maybe they were massacred for intentending to grow crops while in possession of a firearm.

Good video. I do have an edit though. The Davidians that live there currently do not worship David Koresh. There was actually a Branch Davidian cult before Koresh joined and these people still follow those teachings.

I'm going to post something like this get your facts right. The government agents fired the first shots that is beyond dispute. EXCEPT by the government.

I remember when it happened. About to show my age, I was about to turn 12 a few months later. It was all over the news. Even to the point I asked I think my history teacher and my parents to explain what was going on. Both told me, "Don't worry, you are too young to understand." David Koresh was nuts and brainwashed people to believe in crazy stuff. It is sad people died, but kill kids is always insane no matter what the situation is.

@hanorabrennan8846

4 жыл бұрын

Dara, it appears you're still too young to understand.

@E.C.2

2 жыл бұрын

Dara sounds like the 1990's drooling tv addicts who saw nothing wrong with our govt firing at and attacking a country church,running over and desecrating graves,followed by burning American civilians alive.

Hey Dan, since you are traveling around the country filming, I would like to suggest a stop. The Ludlow Memorial, north of Trinidad Colorado. At the memorial there is a metal door leading to a basement. I will let you read about it. The memorial is in the middle of nowhere on the site of a ghost town. Creepy!

Wow! Thanks for this! I haven't thought about Waco in a really long time

This wasn’t even in Waco, it happened outside of Waco

This was on Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack

I arrived there day before yesterday to visit. Left some tears for the kids involved & even the ones that weren't even able to experience life. Had some coversatiins with several others who stopped by said my peace and left a donatiin. Sboukf be back in that area aroubd August and plan to stop by again as it was a very interesting environment both physically, emotionally & and remunerative as it was before the days of social media etc...

Hello sweet Dan! I just discovered this second channel of yours tonight! I'm so excited! More of your wonderful videos to watch! ThAnk you so much for all you do! And to sweet Will too! Y'all are a fabulous team! Your sensitivity in handling this particular video was really great. You've got a fabulous sense of humor and you know when scenes call for an altogether different tone. Thank you.My ex husband and his family were personal friends with David Koresh and went to church with him in Odessa, TX. They were friends with Koresh until Koresh was kicked out of that Seventh Day Adventist church for his radical behavior and beliefs. Shortly after that is when Koresh and his followers moved to just outside the Waco area and he (Koresh aka Vernon Howell) so they could "worship" and live as they wanted. They moved to Waco after that..as we all know.Your film means so much to me, Dan, because of the consequences of that "friendship" between my ex husband and David Koresh. I knew nothing of the Branch Dividian or of David Koresh or any family bonds or of their strange sexual ritualistic beliefs regarding children...none of this I knew before we were married, or even the first year or two of marriage. I would have run the other way.Now being divorced for close to 20 years, caring for my disabled 21 year old child that was sexually abused by not only her father, but by his whole family during visitation....she is permanently physically and mentally scarred... Your film helps me so much, Dan. NOT because I want to see where they died. It helps to see where they lived and worked and carried on with their every day business. They were terribly confused and sick and so on a wrong path--- just like my ex husband and his family. (They are still free by the way- I have boxes of evidence, spent 2 years trying to get them put in jail-- I know that God will take care of them though- at least my precious daughter is alive)Just thank you so very much for this film. I live in Houston, but have never had the opportunity to travel to Waco. Life has been rougher than usual lately; and your video really helped to heal some places that I didn't know needed healing. Thank you once again. Take care.Hugs and love to you dear Dan.Oh And please excuse any weird spelling or spacing on this. I'm sitting on my bed in the pitch dark black (so my daughter thinks I'm sleeping) typing on my Kindle and the kindle really wants to be the boss!Hugs- my real name is Wendy xo to you and Will

This guy has done zero research. Waste of film, so many inaccuracies.

Dan, I just recently discovered your videos on You Tube, just subscribed to your channel today, I would like for you to know how much I appreciate the effort you put into doing these videos, I've seen a lot of these videos of the subject matter you film, and I must say that you are the most articulate and professional utube video producer that I have seen so far and I have seen a bunch, but I enjoy yours the best by far. I like the way you keep the viewer informed on your subject matter and location, town, state and etc. Must Utube videos don't even give you a clue where they are located. Anyway just wanted to take the time to thank you for the outstanding work you do. I noticed that you move around the country quite a bit. Just curious, do you and your helpers live in an RV? In one state one video then another state in the next. Dan, keep those good videos coming, and I hope you can continue to do so, so the best of luck to you and your crew. PS: I just saw Rolling Acres Mall, how sad it was to see that, you get an A plus from me on your coverage of that one.... So long for now, i'll be watching and commenting.

@DanBellFilmIt

8 жыл бұрын

+Will Witt thank you, Will. Much appreciated.

@learn_live

6 жыл бұрын

Will Witt you mean you like the way he misinforms. fucking troll.

This situation should have never escalated the way it did. Koresh could have been arrested easily, alone, by the Sheriff. However, after hearing about the botched raid, and the ensuing debacle, I was NOT surprised, the BATF being a federal agency. While serving 22 years in the military, I encountered wild eyed, wide eyed 'leaders', who couldn't wait to make a name for themselves. Not to mention, these very same people would climb over ANYBODY to make sure that they somehow, highlighted themselves for glory, at ANYONE'S expense! Then there was the charge of 'suspected pedophilia'. If that were true, are we to now know as to the tactic U.S. law enforcement agencies use regarding said crime? Is that how U.S. law enforcement agencies approach 'suspected pedophilia? Burn the children alive?!?

One thing to point out is that the Branch Davidians had a foundation setup prior to David Koresh joining their cult. They were initially church members that broke away from the Seventh Day Adventist church in the 1930s, and had a foundation of worship for nearly 60 years before David Koresh joined. So it was never something David started, but he definitely went to an extreme in 1990 with being labeled "the sinful messiah" and claiming all the women as his wives.