use that link for your 1 million frees kill points: www.eveonline.com/signup?invc=1f711e16-5767-45a5-9048-d01a82ddc007

She used to fight people, now she's fighting npcs, and soon she'll be fighting rocks.\o/

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

i need some skill injectors for mining ! have zero mining skills. maybe you can sent me 10 large ? ;-)

@redus2

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb you can join one of Horde's mining fleets.

@Zaphodox

3 ай бұрын

I misread that as as ROOKs and thought to myself what crazy doctoring are they rocking these days!!

@1bskemp

3 ай бұрын

@@Zaphodox Doctrine?

@Zaphodox

3 ай бұрын

@@1bskemp oops yes typo 🤣

Not a horde player, but from Slyce. We use the same trick with vexors and ishtars to earn AFK cash. Those ships do get blown up, but ironically more are lost to sentient carriers than people. And you nearly always end up in a net positive, so you just get a new one and the party continues. A lot of people run this during work hours, so that they could buy something expensive and do something stupid during their actual free time. It's a game after all. As for Horde, I've been in their standing fleets. Very chaotic, but also very fun if you are not afraid to lose your ship. Definitely seems like a fun community.

@redus2

Ай бұрын

If you lose the afterburner in the mids and leave your drones behind, you won't lose your ship to a carrier -- or to another player.

I've extensively done PvE ratting in nullsec Dronelands, it's how I funded myself during WWB2 and I still do it on occasion (though I mostly did it when the NBI ratter was an Algos and not a Vexor), and here's what I can advise for those of you joining us here to make sure you're getting the most of your ratting isk: 1) If you're ratting in MJ-5F9, you're frankly asking to die. You might think it's safe because that's where everyone is, but the opposite is true. The reason is that you should always have your local channel popped out and stacked as tall as it can be when in nullsec so you can see everyone in your current system, and if someone who's not blue or green or purple shows up you should get out of there lickety-split and back into station. MJ has 320 people in it at the time of writing, and you just can't see everyone in system with that many, so someone could be in system and sneaking up on you. Standing fleet can respond quicker, sure, but against a hunting Loki who knows what they're doing when you're in a Vexor that's not a fight I'd feel confident in. Even one jump out is infinitely better. 2) Standing fleet is always hungry for PvP, the main ESI corp in Horde requires 15 kills a month and many people are looking to get that in standing, and will usually respond if you www, but they're the angry mob with pitchforks of Eve. We often bite off more than we can chew, and sometimes we have trouble responding quick enough. If you aren't in fleet, though, we can't warp to you and we can't save you, so always make sure you're in fleet. Do this before undocking, as someone hostile could invite you to a fleet when you undock and when you join fleet warp you directly into their trap. 3) Vexors are very isk efficient because T1 cruisers are cheap, but they aren't the best way to get isk ratting. Your progression here is Vexor > Gila/Ishtar > Paladin. I recommend the Gila for style points, but it's generally considered not as strong as the Ishtar, whatever, you decide. These two ships use medium drones, Infiltrators for the EM damage, so be aware the frigate and destroyer rats will target your drones so they need to die first. Please note that the expected upgrades, the Myrmidon and Dominix, are not in here. That's because they can't clear the site any faster, are more appealing gank bait, and are harder to warp off which makes them more likely to die in emergencies. I do some ratting in a Myrm when I'm bored, but it's honestly trash isk. You can also consider using ranged missiles for ratting, a cruise fit Praxis or Raven or Typhoon can work for this, but drones are really the best way to go because you don't have to reload drones and also you don't have to think nearly as hard. The benefit of missiles, though, is because it's something you actively do you're less likely to miss someone showing up in local. Paladins are nice because EM/Therm are the two primary weaknesses of the rogue drones you'll be fighting. You may hear rumors of a ratting Oracle, and it's possible if you fit polarized pulse lasers, but it requires skills (in-game and player) that are pretty advanced in order to make it work. 4) The bunker types of drone hordes are a pain in the ass. They don't have as much isk, they can take longer, and the turrets fuckin hurt. Some people recommend you skip them outright and only do the better version. I won't recommend that because isk is isk, but you should be aware that even if you're speed tanking the turrets have good tracking and can hit out to like 100km, even my active tanked Praxis has trouble keeping up with that dps. It sucks. 5) If you see a rat spawn with a diamond symbol, get the fuck out of that anom and report its location to standing with the code "ddd" because that's an infested carrier and it will push your shit in. You need either a dreadnought or a bunch of friends in stealth bombers orbiting it at 500m to kill those things, and they can kill you if they breathe at you. 6) When you're done with ratting for a while, be sure to fly a combat ship in Standing sometimes to give back to the community. It's a good way to scratch the PvP itch, especially since there's no doctrine rules beyond not yolo'ing a bling-fit Vargur or anything.

@emPtysp4ce

3 ай бұрын

I've thought of some more that should be known: ~Hordes are where the good money is, but Patrols are also viable if you for some reason can't run any Hordes at the moment. However, you'll need to approach them differently. The battleship rats in Hordes like to stay around 35km from your ship and shoot you that way, but the ones in Patrols like to get in knife fighting range before starting to shoot. This can present an issue, since you drones when set to aggressive will still only shoot ships that are shooting at you, and if you're speed tanking you could wind up accidentally staying out of range of the Patrol battleships forever. ~Rogue drones are buffer tanked, and do not rep. This is why running a Horde in a Vexor is viable, I'm pretty sure if you tried this shit in a Guristas Haven you'd get dunked on by the rats. ~Rogue drones do not drop loot, don't even try to find any. The only reason you would put down an MTU is if you wanted all the wrecks in one location for easy salvaging. Sentient battleships and infested carriers do drop loot, but they don't spawn very often so they're not worth worrying about. You'll know if a sentient spawns because there'll be some binary appearing in blue text in local chat to announce it, and you'll know if an infested carrier spawns by the fact that you're suddenly in a pod instead of a ship. To compensate for the lack of loot, rogue drones tend to have higher bounties attached to them. ~If you're making your own ratting ship, shield tank it. Even if it's supposed to be an armor ship, especially if it's an armor ship really. You should be filling your lows with DDAs to maximize your outgoing DPS and therefore your income. You don't need that strong of a tank for rats, especially if you're doing things like speed tanking a Vexor or range tanking a Raven. Speaking of the missile ships, even if the ship is kin locked, always use EM damage because that's what the rats are weak to.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@emPtysp4ce had 3 carrier spawns. i learned i cant kill them in an ishtar 🙂

@ugib8377

3 ай бұрын

@@emPtysp4ce I have a Active Shield Tanked Jackdaw that can 330dps @ 55km in sharpshooter(With Light MIssiles). Would 330dps be a viable amount to clear out there? I can fly an Ish, but I like maneuverability of tac dessys more (Easier to gtfo if jumped on/ Options to swap modes per situation.)

@emPtysp4ce

3 ай бұрын

@ugib8377 I checked my old fits, and my passive tanked Gila that I used for semi-AFK ratting is simulated at 474 dps, which should give you an idea of what kind of damage numbers we mean. For science, I just took a Muninn I have with comparable dps numbers into a Horde, and it took me a minute and a half to kill one of the battleship rats. So you could do it as long as you pack enough missiles, I guess. Just make sure you're cap stable and that you always shoot the frigates first, they can scram/web you.

@ugib8377

3 ай бұрын

@@emPtysp4ce Thanks tons for the fast reply! I already have an app in. I'll probably use my Jackdaw to start until I get comfy out there. Then I'll look at bringing something a bit more purpose built. What kind of damage should I resist? Online resources for that are pretty vague.

Couple of suggestions: - Your vexor is flying T2 heavy drones. For new players, you likely wont have the skills to fly these, use Imperial Navy praetors instead. They cost about the same, have similar dps, and dont require high skills to use. - Id recommend flying 2 heavies, 2 medium, 1 light drone instead of 3 heavies. Total on-paper DPS should be the same with this configuration, but because you have med and light drones out, you should have better application. So your total effective/applied DPS should be better than 3 heavy drones, resulting in better applied DPS and isk/hr. - In this video, you rat in drone space. However, if you join PH and rat in non-drone space, you should also carry Mobile Tractor Units (MTU) with you to collect loot from the dead NPC ships. MTU's are not needed when fighting drones, as they dont usually drop anything of any value (faction spawns excluded). This loot is significant, and can make up 30% of your total income if you're killing NPC's other than drones. - The generally accepted upgrade path for ratting after a vexor is usually Myrmidon > Ishtar. You can find people who also suggest using a Praxis, Gila or Dominix, somewhere in that progression but those are less generally accepted by players. - Talk to somebody about your skill training plan. There are a number of skills that give you significant benefits to ratting that improve your dps and isk/hr. Not having the right skills or not training them out of ignorance can easily cost you 50% of your potential income, if not more. - Set your drones to focus fire and auto attack

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

disagree. training BC skill is time off training cruiser 5 and getting into an ishtar

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

thanks...as i said...i am a pve noooob :-)

@sigmar40k

3 ай бұрын

Could you please give an example of which skills bring significant benefits to ratting? I asked around but didn't get many concrete answers. Are you just referring to drone skills in general and stuff?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@sigmar40k if you bring the ship skills near max it will be a good start. And for sure the drone skills are important.

@somebodyintheworld5036

3 ай бұрын

@@sigmar40k For a Vexor specifically, I would look for Drone Interfacing 4, Gallente Cruiser 4, Heavy+Med+Light drone operation 3 to 4 each, Drone Sharpshooting + Drone Navigation 3 or 4. They are just drone skills in general, but specifically I would look for Drone Interfacing and Gallente cruiser whenever Im talking to a new player. New players who've never been talked to may completely miss Drone Interfacing as an important skill, and new players may not realize that the Vexor's cruiser bonus also contributes drone DPS which directly affects your isk/hr. Every now and again Ill also meet a new player who doesn't realize they're missing some of these skills and are losing at least 10% of their potential easy to skill into DPS, which means they're losing about 10% of their potential isk/hr. Beyond that, I would also ask the new player to bring up the exact fit they wanted to use in either pyfa or the in game fitting window and make sure that they have enough power grid and CPU to fit everything, but more importantly that they are cap stable. Ive had instances before where a recommended fit for a new player getting into their first ishtar died in a site because they ran out of cap, cos the person who recommended the fit didn't realize they lacked the skills needed to make the fit cap stable.

this is actually such a great advert for horde lol

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

it is and its free - so horde dont pay me for that...i always deliver "my point of view".

@caffeinejavacode1475

2 ай бұрын

​@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fbI still didnt get hangout

@redus2

Ай бұрын

@@caffeinejavacode1475 ask again in Newbeans channel.

For the love of God, can you please just say 'isk' instead of i s k :s

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

NO ! ;-) you know i say Horde instead of Hord and we love the "e" in germany...its mandatory

@imaxxx7105

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Being different isnt always the way to go you know ;) Some people think they always have to stand out, but sometimes its better just to go with what the whole f*cking world does XD

@imaxxx7105

3 ай бұрын

@@SlackJawBilly Wtf does that have to do with this? XD She is not using ai voice software. Its just her...

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@imaxxx7105 hehe its true

@JacksonOwex

2 ай бұрын

@@imaxxx7105 Being different IS always the way to go! I don't want to be ANYONE but myself!!! You be you, I'll be me, and Ami can be Ami!

This is great - great video. Love your content

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Thank you !

They know that people is more important than some ISK, and it's a good investment in a long run

@R463ful

3 ай бұрын

They get 10% of what you are ratting via corporation taxes, so they get BOTH: people and isk. ;)

Great Guide :D I was on the other side in Horde for some time. Buying all Escalations up on the Zulu Bazar and flying them myself

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

ohhh nices...how much is a side from minimum to maximum ? 400 mil - 1 bil?

@pinguincoder

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb i did it with one Paladin and netted around 450m/Hour While taking around 20 min per Escalation. So i was able to do two escalations an Hour while using the Keys for the shortcut and including the travel times

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@pinguincoder but thats not so bad 450 mil/h

@pinguincoder

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb yeah you can make even more when you buy the escalations cheaper or buy ones that are almost expired so you get them basically for free.

I joined Horde around 6 months ago, the experience is totally different than what I expected. The amount of support, and programs they have to me is incredible. I had played for 2 years in High Sec, so I had experience in the game. But as a total new player you would learn multiple different things through their classes they offer, and they run often. They also cover a lot of different topics. The experience in Horde even coming from high sec and small null experience, is something unique I believe. Its slightly overwhelming at first, but patience and you can go from 0 to hero in Horde.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

yes i did not joined a new been shool fleet...maybe i need todo that...

@davidvajda9157

3 ай бұрын

All big ally have dedicated support for newbies, Brave have freee ship handouts too.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@davidvajda9157 can i join brave as an alpha account? i am not sure about that. Will be interesting to know.

@cirsem6835

2 ай бұрын

I was in Horde for a moment, and any classes I saw were last minute. All made up on the fly. Hard to do when RL gets in the way a lot so it wasn’t for me.

I only can support the message of this video. I am a bean for three weeks now and I had a blast. I still feel very welcome and everyone is super helpful!

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

cool ...have fun there

I followed the steps in this video and have really enjoyed Pandemic Horde. They've been a great group to work with. Very helpful. 👍

This is the first video of yours I've stumbled upon it seems insanely valuable

great video , i know you don't much like pve but stuff like this is massively useful for newer players and so few content creators actually make stuff aimed at new players making everything as simple as humanly possible. o7, I think most null bloc's offer something similar but making it this simple is a huge bonus!

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Well i am not sure. I think there is no other ally that accept alpha accounts in null, right? And so easy to apply....Anyways...no reason to stay in high sec right? So Horde offers the players an easy step in to null....

@DuckyThePilot

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb That'd be misinformation. Would highly recommend doing your own research instead of ingesting whatever propaganda Gobbins is throwing around this week. Brave (Brave Newbies), Goons (KarmaFleet), The Initiative. (Knock Knock.), LinkNet (LinkNet...), Fraternity (Fraternity Academy); all accept new players on alpha accounts. And there are many more. The only significant difference between PH and any of these for a new player is the amount of spin and lying to members that PH puts out on a daily basis in order to convince people to stay with them.

@mikspurins1455

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Deffo props to Horde for such an organized newbro support system. Although, to be fair, in my experience, if Ali doesn't do it, individual Corps tend to their own newbros. Almost any Null group I've encountered has a newbie support of some sort, so yeah - getting into null isn't nearly as hard as people tend to think.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@mikspurins1455 yes i am wondering player stay in highs ec so long and have isk problems...

@renwood999

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb and a great introduction to everything EVE. Everybody should start at the end game, it a BIG waist of time from any other way. all the knowledge you get from those Nullsec corp. after you can look for Low-sec or even come back to high.

Hi. Sort of an of topic question. How do you get that red circle around your cursor? I often lose my mouse cursor while playing EVE, and I think such circle could help me. Thanks!

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

its from the recordinf software

Thats a great video and so true about the care packs of free stuff you get. One day a few years back decided i wanted to try nulsec life and just happen to pick and join Pandemic Horde, figured would have a bit of visit down there in Null, hang around a bit and see what all the mystery was about then head back up to my hisec corp predominantly mining. Never knew about the "care packs" until i first docked in the Beanstar and one of the Supporters in chat dropped it all on me, I was like you for real? thought it was pretty cool getting that stash of ships and skillbooks for free. i did all those skillbooks , had a crack at flying all those freebies, then you realise hey all that really just opens doors to so much other stuff you can do so you start thinking about hanging around bit longer to do the next step and see how that goes, anyway still havent made it back to hisec , still learning stuff, and theres still just so much content.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

cool ! i was in horde some years ago and did not know the newbeans carepacks

I just maxed an alpha and want to take the dive into Omega. This video sold me. I applied. Hope to start earning again. Thanks for the video! - Charles F Taylor

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Oh, thats cool...mybe we will see us in space there. i will continue doing pve a bit...isk for the win

@goldeneagle256

3 ай бұрын

just keep having funn with the game. dont start to stress so much about making enough isk for omega you turn it into a second job. however if you goal is to pay for the game with isk, i strongly suggest you try save up for 3months worth of omega, because its a lot cheaper then paying on a monthly basis. also remember ger some skills for PI, can make you good isk pasivly wile doing other stuff. you dont make much on it, but should make enough to help you quite abit on whats needed to run the omega

@OfficialBigOZ

3 ай бұрын

@@goldeneagle256 yeah for sure. I more so meant that this gave me the urge to buy omega and go all in on an account for the first time. Horde has been extremely nice to me and helped me a ton

Thanks for the video, been looking for a way to move out into low and null sec for a while and looks like I might have just found it :)

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

Күн бұрын

cool have fun out there !

Saving this info lol, been playing even since 2006 off and on. Now i just want laid back content with a sprinkling if heart-stopping pvp lol

@davd2314

3 ай бұрын

I know the felling. Been in and out since 2010. Been playing more the last year or so because my boy has started playing.

@thecrimsonwhisker

3 ай бұрын

@@davd2314 Thats dope! Got yourself a wingman!

@firangi

3 ай бұрын

Horde is great for that kind of play style. In the main corporation (Pandemic Horde, Inc) there aren't even any minimum activity requirements, so you can play as little or as much as you want and not have to worry. It's a great way to at least try out null sec space for a while to see how it works for you while getting plenty of opportunities for both PvE and PvP. It's also almost entirely drama-free, politics-free (no real-world politics rule), bigot-free, etc. The only real downside is that in PH Inc. you're one of thousands, so it's not as easy to bond with people as in a smaller corporations (those are available in Horde, too, though). But in standing fleet you'll start seeing/hearing the same people regularly and can start to form connections with the regulars in your timezone.

This was a really cool video. Been eyeballing getting back into the game, might have to put an app into PH. Especially if the money out there is that good. Getting some time in with standing fleet will be fun too. I used to love PvP. Especially the stint I did out in null before a large coup in the Querios region demolished the alliance I was a part of.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

thank you

Nice! It almost tempts me into going back to Eve. Into nullsec this time. I like your vids, very well made and no bulszit added. Thx, pew pew girl!

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

Ай бұрын

if you come back use my 1. million skills ! code is in the video description ;-)

Subbed. I like your style as an EVE creator, and you kinda fill a hole where Suitonia used to be before he joined CCP.

Great Video. Much love from the NBI team :D

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

well you deliver a great support to the new players....bu i will NOT trade the gifted ships back ! ;-)

What's the ISK per hour here? And what's the minimal time to complete a site? I'm currently doing T1 Abyssals in HS, clocking 60M/h with 5 minutes between each dive, and I'm wondering if it's worth switching...

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

nope its about 30-40 mil /h but with escalations every 10th side

@IndrasilDesignStudio

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb So that makes it around 43-53M/h in total. Thanks for the info! I'll stick to the Abyss for now but it's good to know some alternatives. Especially since that kind of ISK is crazy for a new player!

This is good, just wish you explain about escalations and selling them a little more

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

After you join OH, go to the newbeans and ask there...you will get all the support you need 🙂 but its easy: after you get the escalation, fly there, bookmark it. sell it in zulus bazaar and transfer the bookmark to the seller...he wills end you an "link" you save your position under that link...thats it....sold

what you didnt mention is the time invested to get 1.2B, average what 15m ticks?so that makes 26.6 hours ratting in those 10 days which isnt too bad. the rng on escalations can be good or bad as well

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

my income was around 40mil/h i think...but i was mostly afk and watched riverdale on netflix tbh 🙂

@gorbachef94

3 ай бұрын

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb sounds about right, a tick is every 20 min so that would be about 40/45m an hour

I think it's the best video about EVE. Congratulations!

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

ohhh thank you

are we getting more on the solo lowsec life anytime soon? great fun vids btw ❤

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

sure...its on the list... a lot of ppl asking for iskis ;-)

Hi joined the horde but when you went to that quiet area you said it was only 3 jumps from HQ but when i tried it was 9.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

then better use the horde jump gates ;-)

@frosthound_8594

3 ай бұрын

To activate jump gates, click on youf autopilot route ( the letter A on your Ui right next to 'route') and make sure to select "include jump gates in route"

@hexcrystalmeth2433

3 ай бұрын

@@frosthound_8594 thanks couldn't figure it out

@frosthound_8594

3 ай бұрын

@@hexcrystalmeth2433 Any questions, don't hesitate to ask in Newbeans

Help, i have an issue with isk, i somehow earn that much in a day but i yet somehow still am below the poverty line, do i have a spending issue, yes but that's not the question here

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

2 ай бұрын

i have an issue with isk too - thats a part of the game ! 🙂

Hello, was wandering what is the map tool or website you use at around 4:13 in the video. Or is this an in game feature?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

10 күн бұрын

thats the horde ratting / sytem map

@checkmatefr5796

10 күн бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb and where can I find it? In game ? or on the website? Thx for your quick answer

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

10 күн бұрын

@@checkmatefr5796 ask in newbeans help chanel its on their intranet

Nice nice love it

Im half tempted to join. Null life is something i havent tried yet. Might apply when i get home.

@ginganutjob

3 ай бұрын

join brave instead, same programmes, better culture

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Yes join Horde Inc easy do get in...you can start today...you only need a ingame apply. thats it.

Fellow pandemic horde fellow. Mining ops is always jolly cooperative

Will check horde out. Didn't know that Horde support new players and PvE so much. Wondering a lot what their benefit is...Do they do that just because of the taxes?

@wingandaprayer883

3 ай бұрын

It's more like this.. if you join PH and enjoy what is on offer, like the setup and so on then the hope would be that you grow as a pilot and stay with them. If you try it, and don't like it... you are free to leave, so really there is no downside for PH.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

do it !

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

horde is space communism. the more you help them, the more they help you, the more you help them.

@firangi

3 ай бұрын

In general, the big alliances have so many people that there are a lot more available to help new players than there might be in a smaller group. There are multiple benefits, like keeping the number of active members higher, keeping Eve numbers in general higher (honestly Eve needs as many active players as it can get), and converting more people from new players to long-term active players by helping them navigate what is one of the most complicated games one could choose to play. I know at least in Horde we love helping new players find their way in the game, and I assume this is the same elsewhere too.

I have to say, if this is a recruitment video, it's working. I have been blown up by ph several times and am seriously considering joining. High sec is pretty boring. Thanks for the details, and enjoy your content

@firangi

3 ай бұрын

Do it! I've been in Horde for about four years and it's been by far the best experience I've had in Eve since starting in 2009. You can play as little or as often as you want and both the PvE and PvP opportunities are fantastic, not to mention industry, trading, hauling, and everything else the game has to offer. As I said in another comment, it's almost entirely drama-free, free from real-world politics (there's a rule), and bigot-free (also a rule; this was a problem for me in the past with other groups). It can be difficult to bond with people since it's such a huge alliance, but if you're in standing fleet regularly and speak up (definitely be on Mumble) you can start to make connections with others. Living in null sec is the best way to play Eve in my opinion, and being in Horde is a great way to do it.

@MA-uy7iu

3 ай бұрын

I love Horde... nice supporting crew

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

It's not a recruitment video. No one from the horde was involved in that video or paid me for it. In the past, people have often asked me how and where to make ISK, also as a beginner. So after making "just" only PvP videos and some reviews, I thought I'd make one or two PvE videos. I was thinking about where I would start again, when i am 100 % new to the game. Who has the best benefits for me as a PvE player... so I took a closer look at Horde. For me, the following benefits were crucial: 1. Apply today, join tomorrow, very important benefit. I can join and leave without it taking weeks. 2. Free ships, free skillbooks. 2. Well-organized support. Ingame and on discord 3. No payback, they don't want anything in return from me or require me to fly a certain number of fleets. 4. Opportunity to sell escalations. 5. Standing fleet (active) protects me. 6. Active community, but i can also stay solo inside the alliance if i like. 7. A save system to do some afk ratting too 8. Ship replacement if i lost my Vexor ...those were the reasons. At the end of the day you wont get that in High sec. To put it dramatically, you could, as a new player, earn your money there and then just leave once you've made enough.

@yohomie187

3 ай бұрын

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb I am sorry, I wasn't trying to say this was an actual recruitment video. I appreciate all the content and advice. Thank you!

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@yohomie187 no worries i know. all good...but for sure its also a bit of an recruitment video...(unpayed) 🙂

When I was flying with Karmafleet I used to make decent ISK on a pathetic Myrmidon which takes no time to get started while I trained for VNI and better drones. I could usually AFK a bit and even if I lost my ship it was no biggie. Still better to be present though.

Such an PH advert... now I have to choose between PH and TEST. Which one should I pick?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

2 ай бұрын

lol - go to "4s Corporation" - Goons. Cool Corp !

I used to do this and i've finally graduated to a Worm Hole corp. Can make anywhere between 500Mil to 1B daily quite easily. Great video !

Cool. Im looking into getting back in eve. Maybe i should start by this route. This is still valid ?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

Күн бұрын

sure...if so claim the 1 million skill points ! link is in the video description ;-)

@jxk4500

Күн бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb awesome thanks . Maybe we fly together one day. 😎

It's hard to believe but true. In this tutorial, I'll show you how, even as an Alpha account with no money, no ship, and no skills, you can easily earn several billion a month. Sounds crazy, right? Yes, it is, and you don't need a single ISK to do it. How did you start making ISK when you began playing EVE Online?

@mikspurins1455

3 ай бұрын

I earned my first Bil diving WHs, and later doing Null Explo as well. Pretty decent income, for hardly any skill requirements, aaaand it teaches you a lot of valuable survival lessons. Deffo recommend. As for Null - it is a great place to make money for sure. Although my fav method was, instead of hacking myself, taking loot from any trespassers. Never regretted skilling into the Sabre. And as for the video - yes, getting into Null is nowhere near as hard as people seem to think. Nor is it nearly as dangerous. Sure, you will explode while you learn the inns and outs of Null sec, but those are lessons everyone needs to learn imo. If anything, being completely risk averse is what robs countless people of learning about many great aspects of Eve universe. Nobody ever said you have to stick to Null if you don't like it, but not even trying it out feels like a complete shame.

@AwoudeX

3 ай бұрын

One KEY thing you haven't mentioned: how many hours did it take for you to rake up the 1.72b in 10 days?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@AwoudeX i dont know 100% i did it afk

@redus2

3 ай бұрын

Good video. This is a great offer to take advantage of. If you stick with it, train into an Ishtar and join one of the alliances ESI Gated Corps. Personally I started out in High Sec and spent years there doing security missions, mining, and hauling.

@donworland

3 ай бұрын

I'm wondering, could you walk us through some of your hunts again? There are things you've brought up that have made me already change my gameplay. I like that you have considered the players new to the game, that's really cool. Fly Dangerously o7.

This sounds amazing for me, a newly-arrived explorer ! I want to give it a try. How much in-game time should I spend into these PVE sites in order to make some solid ISK, iyo?

@MA-uy7iu

3 ай бұрын

It always dependes on how much you want to earn.

@nobodynowhere8593

3 ай бұрын

@@MA-uy7iu So, let's Say I'd love to make a consistent 100 million to finally pay for a battlecruiser : how much time should it take? We also could speak of average ISK/hour if easier

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

i think you can make 20-40 mil / hour. if it leads to an escalation you can sell the escalation for 130 million. i think if you run 20 drone horde combats you will have a good isk start...

@nobodynowhere8593

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Thanks for your kind and quick answer. I'll definitely give it a try very soon, as I am struggling with T0 abyss to make ISK for now. Fly safe !

@pinguincoder

3 ай бұрын

@@nobodynowhere8593 you are struggling with T0? What is your struggle?

Does Pandemic Horde have also noob section where people cant get wardec ,I like high sec and low sec both

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

yes i think it is the PH High Sec Devision. But better join the main Corp "Pandemic Horde. INC" so you will be a part of null sec...yes there are wars ongoing...but if you travel in a shuttle you should be fine

@briaijuioji9486

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb thx

lol yes - i spended to many time useless in high sec. I didn't know Pandemic Horde offered such support. Does anyone else do this, like the Goons, PL, Brave?

@DocTales54

3 ай бұрын

Yes Goons has the Gooniversity, with handout ships and PvE/PvP Classes, but the best Expirience is to go on your first fleet and say you are new to goons or new to eve :D and most FC calls for a welcome gift to you :D sometimes it rains billions of isk ;)

@D4niel_EU

3 ай бұрын

Of course Karmafleet in Goons, a few Brave corps do it, theres also plenty other newbie corps from the small to mid nullsec alliances that offer a lot of support from ships, isk, useful tips and tricks and such to newbies.

@frosthound_8594

3 ай бұрын

PL isn't a newbro friendly alliance, it's more of a closed club for well established players Goons & Brave might have a similar program; but keep in mind Goons don't accept alpha pilots

@MA-uy7iu

3 ай бұрын

​@@frosthound_8594thats the big point... Alpha and easy apply comes only with Horde

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@frosthound_8594 i like "open for everyone" tbh :-)

Where I can find list of anomalies?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

but skilling a new account takes to much time OR to much isk...i am poor you know.

soo "you play the game by beeing afk"? which is "play the game by not playing the game" huch? why?

just FYI for the curious. I made an alpha on 04/04, got the 1mill sp, did some career missions enough to get the 50k sp reward from air points, then put in an app. My app wasn't accepted until the next day so I continued running career missions for easy money. I was accepted into PH on 04/05 but accepted and moved after midnight on 04/06. It is currently 16:10 on 04/07 and I've already run 5 anoms and found 2 escalations which I've sold for 230mill isk. Escalations are RNGeezuz, I might not see one again for days.. but being 10% towards omega this soon? that's still a good % so far. - Korbin DALLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS / Korben DALLAAAAS (i got it shortened)

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

also: until you hit that sp cap, it's actually cheaper and more sp/day to buy daily injectors, so i'll be doing that as i can afford them until i hit that 5m sp.

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

Update: Lost a vexor with 90mill in loot inside, doing dumbshit on a bubbled gate. Since that first post I finally got my 4th escalation. 6 days in and with only ratting a few hours a day and paying for 3 daily alpha injectors and I'm sitting at 500million, 1/5th of the way towards Omega (6x5=30 :D). Does it help that I'm a total nerd, love this game, and know how to play drone boats? Yes. Will I help anyone that asks for it in the newbeans channel? Absolutely.

@Recline17

3 ай бұрын

This is great info. Thank you!! I'm gonna try to follow your path!?

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

@@Recline17 Day 8 in PH not much news. Almost lost a shitty thorax going against blingy peeps. Despite 4 daily injectors I'm just about to crack 1 billion, slowly closing in on the halfway point. The goal isn't to get and keep omega going, it's to be able to afford omega every once in awhile as I train up the alpha only skills at 2x speed. Like I said, you gain more sp/day using daily alphas, but that's only if you remember to use them daily. Only real news I have to post is: Just run Drone Squads, the others aren't worth the effort.. squads is fast, patrol can be annoying, and horde* is just nuts.

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

(yesterday) Day 15: Finally got another escalation. In 15 days I've only had 6, no one would buy one of them due to it's location, and I had to sell this last one at a discount due to it being close to expiration and me heading off to bed. Luckily I've had quite a few officer (sentient drone) spawns in my Squad runs. I've also picked up some bling loot off wrecks in pvp that I'm trying to sell. I'm currently right at the 2 billion mark. I was going to spend my isk on daily injectors instead of plex just due to economics, but with the birthday month coming in 9 days that changed my plan. I want those birthday pressies. Overall I think joining Horde (or other newb friendly null alliances) and doing some hardcore ratting while your skills improve is a good way to get into EVE and nullsec.

And how do I contact people from The Horde?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Apply tp Pandemic Horde. INC ingame only...its easy.

This might be the best eve video ever made. I can attest this video speaks the truth, I have done these exact steps. small question though, how many hours a day did you rat in this video? cheers.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

i think 1 - 2 hours...in the evening...watching netflix and do afk pve....not sure 100%

@tzophiyah

3 ай бұрын

A standard t2 fit semi-afk ishtar will max out around 100mil an hour running bunker drone hordes (varies based on skills, escalations, BRM, ESS robbers, dread spawns, etc.). A t2 fit vexor can probably do up to 70mil an hour with max skills, but all the way down to maybe 25mil an hour doing squads mostly for 10/10s if it's a week one player in a t1 fit.

Nice video.

Das muss ich gleich mal ausprobieren :)

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

viel erfolg !

@Cyrion2k6

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb bin jetzt seit zwei Tage bei Pandemic, so nette und hilfsbereite Leute, das ist der Wahnsinn. Man kann direkt bei Flotten einsteigen und ratten gehen.

Jejeje i wonder if they will accept me, an old member from fire coalition with 100m SP, that you guys destroyed last year with INIT, well i didnt play eve since then... i was playing star citizen during that time

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

i can "ask for a friend" if you like :-)))))

@sergiogarciamercado1878

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb lol joined 1h ago to eve since 1 year of being out of the game and recived 2 invitations of my old friends to they're respective corps... 1 for BRAVE sadly they are part of imperium and the other on WH space... I have to say the only thing about this game that makes me playing it, its the friends inside the game, not the game itself jejejeje

@MA-uy7iu

3 ай бұрын

Lol🎉

pandemic horde about to be super full and lose a lot of isk on care packages haha

@Happy-nc9zf

2 ай бұрын

You do realize they make trillions in a day yee?

Its not to the same extend but in brave newbies in the brave collective you also get those vexors for free. Because of pandemic horde they sadly dont have their own space and coalition. Pure blind deklein and fade are now holded by fratenity pets

Karmafleet does the same and i think all big corp's also with newbe help. Eve-uni is also a good one with plenty of classes. Was there in 2008 or around that year. Damn love the accent :)

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

🙂

uuuh. i have a serious problem. i got in the exact same ship and did the exact same thing(orbit a bunker at 21) but i got killed shortly after. what did i do wrong? (and i was using afterburner and hardener)

@goldfaun7644

3 ай бұрын

Honestly no offence but i think u legit scammed me. there isnt a single tadius nor a site that i wasn't killed in. so i'm taking no more advice from u

@frosthound_8594

3 ай бұрын

​@@goldfaun7644 depends on what was on grid & your fit. Link lossmail?

@PhaliSVK

3 ай бұрын

she is using omega clone with a lot of more skills then you. Use provided Vexor and run lower sites and check skill plans for Vexor and update your skills and then upgrade to t2 (I am doing the same :D)

@frosthound_8594

3 ай бұрын

@@PhaliSVK Vexor can clear Drone Horde sites, have tried it, orbited at 30km (bunker variant without guns), + navy drones (Amarr) 1 light 2 med 2 heavy, don't have it benchmarked yet, but you should be able to sig tank all battleships (10mn ab).

@goldfaun7644

3 ай бұрын

@@PhaliSVK she said you can start with 0 isk and 0 ships. and i also have everything maxed for an alpha

Damn, Pandemic Horde is something else

Something is wrong with this video. I did exactly the same, and with the vexor that the horde give u there is NO WAY u can close a horde. The turret just kills u too fast. Also the modules in the fitting are not the same. How is possible that the turret deals almost no dmg to you, meanwhile on my vexor one round of fire destroys at least 75% of the shields?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

i did that 50 times...orbit and kill the small ships first ! go on max skills for that at level 5 !!!

Hi there o7 what is that map you're using ?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

its from horde suqare and shows the systems

@gaijinbeats

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb ok thanks ^^ didn't notice it ! fly safe o7

Why would you want to watch netflix while playing eve? No fun in your game if you burn out by getting rich as a newbie. You have my sympathies.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha, well. PVE can be boring (sometimes) so making isk and watching netflix is cool, you know, for normal i watch netflix without getting isk :-)

But who is Brisc Rubal?

@MA-uy7iu

3 ай бұрын

Thats easy. Leader of Init.

WOW. Have things changed this much? I remember a time when you had to AWOX somebody and be a capital pilot to even be considered by Hord. ANd Isk is normally pronounced as a word not the individual letters. But still a good video. Great opportunity for new players.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Aren't I-S-K not Icelandic Krona, and isn't CCP an Icelandic company? So, are Icelandic Krona used in-game? Crazy stuff. :-) Btw - i am always open for ISK or I-S-K donations :-)))))

@davd2314

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Interstellar Kredits

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

" I remember a time when you had to AWOX somebody and be a capital pilot to even be considered by Hord" no you didn't because ph was always a newbie friendly alliance

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fbISK stands for InterStellar Kredits, and although Aura used to spell it out, nowadays everyone just pronounces it as a word, even devs.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@this.is.a.username newbie friendly is the key

This is how the baddies get you.

Mate... you make 42b/month pvp-ing? Wow... for me it's always a time and money sink, even with fleets. Best I can do with an afk ishtar pve is 15b/m. If you ever wanna do a video on it, I'm quite interested in how you became isk-positive with pvp.

@johnsmoke4249

3 ай бұрын

Yeah PVP is a sink for me too. Any tips on how to be isk positive would be helpful.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@johnsmoke4249 kill more than you lose. Only attack when you will be able to win. Have some backup 🙂

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

nahhh thats also player donations and trade 🙂

@TheTryzna

3 ай бұрын

@@johnsmoke4249 just pvp in faction warfare, plexes bring both isk and pvp content.

How many hours within those 10 days?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

2 ай бұрын

i dont record that maybe 2/3 - a day

i mean the vexors are beginner ships and you only ment to use them wile you get some better skills and get isk to buy better ratting ships. and the reason we hand out those starter package are to remove the most boring grind for new pilots. for beginners it might seems like a lot of isk, but the reality those packages are barely more then 100 mill and not even pocketchange in the bigger picture soon as you get the skills i would strongly suggest you get yourself a praxis for ratting. with some ok skills it can do 800-900 dps, tank 1k dps, and only cost 450 mill or so, and are a much better isk maker. should earn you roughly 100 mill an hour, and probably close to twice as much as the vexor in the long run

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

yes...ishtar is a way better !

@goldeneagle256

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb the isthar allright, but the praxis are better. just slightly more expencive and gives you easily 40-50% more dps and twice as much tank, and harder to gank. you can even keep some drugs in the cargo in case you get attacked by neuts to increase your tank even further. that gives you rougly 1.3k dps tank and means any attackers actually need to put in some effort to kill you. a typical t3 ishtar hunter that kill those easily wont stand a chance of breaking the praxis

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@goldeneagle256 hey cool...can i run the 10/10 escalations with it?

@goldeneagle256

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb thats the best part. yes, tho probably with some modifications needed. havent done it myself, but there youtubers that show how to do it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4attK6tYpXAm7A.html

Came here cuz someone someone said lots of new people are joining Horde because of this video lol

How long a day did you rat for?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

2 ай бұрын

2-3h afk

I was just in horde but I left for high sec . Should I go back? Are you still in horde?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

5 күн бұрын

if you wanna play solo dont go back...if you like small corporations ,,,stay away...if you like to fly in bigger fleets and make easy isk, come back...(yes i am still with horde)

@Celld3ri_Rubee

5 күн бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb can you get me back in? think i made a mistake going to high sec

@Celld3ri_Rubee

5 күн бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb i liked and subbed to your channel very knowledgeable

@Celld3ri_Rubee

5 күн бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb name in game is celld3ri rubee

@Celld3ri_Rubee

5 күн бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Celld3ri Rubee in game

How do I get on the new bean Chanel ?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

18 күн бұрын

check out the welcome message and the links there

For perspective, a week-old player in a Vexor might manage just about 10m ticks after ESS bonus in a Vexor. To make 1.2b ISK from ratting - that is 120 ticks. Each tick is 20 minutes of ratting. So to get 120, 20 minute ticks in 10 days you need to play EVE for 2400 minutes or 4 hours a day, every day, no exceptions, not including losses from modules you fit or your ESS getting robbed. Literally a full time job to scratch a pittance out the ground.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Nahhh...ist 1hour a day with all the escalations. Empty system. Ess robbing in a system 3 jumps away from a standing fleet with 150ppl ? never saw that happen.

@zorgzev96

3 ай бұрын

Not counting rat loot, escalations and faction spawns (a lot of which doesn’t exist in drone lands)

@Sajuek

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb 1.2b was before the escalations you said you sold. So to do this playing 1 hour a day you'd be getting 40m+ ticks in a vexor?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@zorgzev96 thats why my MTU was empty all the time ;-)

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@Sajuek i am not sure if it was 1hour or 2 hours...you know ...most of the time i watched 2 x riverdale every evening...+/- sometimes 3...some days i also used an ishtar....bought it from the pve income...so whats working for me needs maybe a bit longer for a new player...for sure. but support and benefit stays the same...

Please i hope this is real, your video got recommended to me after my Caracal got blown in T1 abyss. Making ISK in highsec to get omega stressed me out, really.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

sure its real...maybe you will make less isk when if you spent less hours. make sure you orbit (!!) the structure and mke sure you warp out if a carrier npc warps in. if you dont do that there is a big chance you will die

If you go with the Vexor they provide youre going to die pretty fast. If you're new, start with the herds to learn the mechanics, do it 2 or 3 times then try to get some upgrades like drone damage amplifier II or the capacitor coil II and then go to squads and dont ever leave from there

@PedroRodriguez-xi7oj

Ай бұрын

Are you using a 50MN microwarpdrive? I guess thats how speedtank them right?

@02ditf23

Ай бұрын

The beginner fit they provide you should have absolutely no issues doing the drone sites. Are you orbiting the site structure with you burner on? I've been using their beginner fit with appropriate skills trained to III or V and have had 0 issues so far.

@PedroRodriguez-xi7oj

Ай бұрын

@@02ditf23 are you doing drone hordes? With no skills and the beginner fit Im not even close to be fast enough to speed tank the horde damage, Im at like 500m/s and those guys hit me hard, I ended up warping away. Im now training speed related skills, but anyway appears that drone squads have the same escalation chance being faster (altough less isk/tick)

I disagree on the "never warp to a station" statement. What's more probable - the enemy to scan you down with combat scanners in your safe spot, or to bubble the station? Safespots are good for repositioning or ratting in no-mans-land, but its always better to get tethered immediately after a neut pops out.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

well use 2 savespots and warp between the spots if combats are in space...

@itsvipehd4727

3 ай бұрын

I also really disagree on the statement that you should never warp to a station. the Enemy HAS to be in a interdictor or HIC in order to put down a bubble, but both are rarely seen solo. you can easily make it to a station before a sabre can deploy a bubble if you're quick enough. Sometimes your inexpierience with nullsec shows..

@hans-peterjungbauer5703

3 ай бұрын

Normally, you will immediately get an intel, if the station is bubbled. So you can decide, where to go. Station or Safe POS is better than a safe spot. At the end, it depends on the situation….

@davd2314

3 ай бұрын

We used to have safes and POS to warp to. At least in a POS they can't get you in the shields and most roaming PVPer and gangs didn't know it's location so it wasn't likely to get bubbled. I know they're not used much anymore since Upwell structures dropped.

@tzophiyah

3 ай бұрын

Warping to a safe is the right call for situations like there's an unaccounted for neut in system, you have aggression (presumably from bastion), you're in a ship where someone will risk burning blue eyes for awox and you're not in a non-opsec fleet, etc. If you're warping to a deep tether not on the undock bm within dscan range that you're already aligned to and you don't have aggression, then it's 100% safe and the better choice. If you're in a non-opsec fleet and worried about awox or your deep safe has been burned at some point then tether is your only chance. So "never" warp to station is indeed too absolute, but so is "always" get tethered immediately. Warping to a safe is a good habit to get into though in theory, but you're risking your safespot each time you do and 99% of the time deep tether bm on a random athanor or whatever is perfectly fine (99.99% of the time in a cheap Vexor) - even the better call. Covering all of that for new players is not feasible outside the scope of 40h video series haha.

Looks like I never met experts PvP'lers in the last 15 years. I always warp to station with subcaps when hostiles enter the system. I was never bubbled. This isn't low sec.

man ich wünschte ich könnte das zocken, ich habs 2 mal probiert, aber es ist einfach zu kompliziert :(

dont the drones get killed by npc? all my drones get attacked on new waves and dies.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

no..dont have that problem...

@Nooblet976

3 ай бұрын

Orbit within 29m and that should fix your issue

I don't recall anyone ever saying I-S-K before. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Usually it's ISK like risk. Nice video Horde Sister. Yes, you , like me, are Horde.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

Ай бұрын

no its I-S_K you know...i am german :-)

@dailyqwikbytes

Ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Ja, freulein, guten tag. Ich bin Amerikaner.

nice work , but for a new player as they have low skill point drone horde site maybe will be dificult . drone squad will be better. ishtar very good for drone horde if they have skill to fly it

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

thats a point...yes. i think 5bil/month is also very high for a brand new player....but its not impossible after some weeks i think.

Ahhh good old GSO-SR... love that system :)

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

i love that system too...most of the time i was solo there... i remember 1 person tried to steal the ess...he was dead within some minutes, killed by the standing fleet :-)

Just huff gas in low sec... Takes very low skills to get started. If you have multiple accounts it gets really really good. But can easily make 5bil a week with character if you target the right gas. With 3 accounts I can make 5bil a night with good spawn rng.

The game has many great features, but I also enjoy life, and dont want to commit much to it. Sometimes, Im tempted to just quit, and destroy the ships I have. I own Zirnitra for several years, never used it in battle.

@firangi

3 ай бұрын

I've been in Horde for about four years as a casual player, three in a corporation with a minimum monthly kill requirement (15 now, up recently from 10), and there are so many PVP opportunities that even in months with very little free time I've easily managed to meet the minimum. But if you stay in the main "starter" corporation (Pandemic Horde, Inc) there are no minimum kill requirements and you can play as little or as often as you like.

@LuisDelValle-re9tz

3 ай бұрын

I did this. I gave away 90% of my isk on Sep. 20th, 2020 then changed my password to something random without writing it down. I ended up resetting the password last week and have been slowly remaking the ISK I gave away.

Really appreciate the video Ami. I have a bit of a potential hot take, but isn't suggesting Null-sec pretty much signing that player up for an immediate death sentence, and is like one of the longest running pranks to bait players?

@this.is.a.username

3 ай бұрын

no. just no. nullsec in many ways is safer than high sec.

@MA-uy7iu

3 ай бұрын

Null is a way better for ISK

@Drascylla

3 ай бұрын

@@this.is.a.username I'd really appreciate you explaining how that can be true, given that the point of hi-sec is to be more secure ?

@Drascylla

3 ай бұрын

@@MA-uy7iu I understand that, I do. My main concern though is the obvious vulnerability it creates.

@Sajuek

3 ай бұрын

@@Drascylla If a new player joins horde they will make ISK 10x as fast as they would in high-sec and all of their ships are given to them for free. So where is the "death sentence" if there is nothing for them to lose? You cannot learn to play the game in high-sec either because once you have learned very basic things such as how to lock, shoot, warp, dock and jump, it does not teach you anything valuable whatsoever that you could not learn faster and better in null-sec. Indeed, the first thing a new player should do is the Sisters of EVE epic arc, and the second thing they should do is join a Nullsec alliance. Null-sec is very safe because the space you are in is guarded by your alliance, interlopers are reported in local intel channel and pursued and attacked by your local standing fleet. This means that typically everyone in your system with you is a known entity who is friendly to you. If a player who is not in your alliance comes into your system you know that they are likely there to harm you, so you immediately just dock up. It is literally impossible to die in nullsec, whilst doing PvE content unless you you are not paying attention. Whereas in high-sec, you are not truly safe as anyone can still shoot you. You cannot claim space or pursue neutrals meaning you share it with everyone and you can never assume anything about their intentions. I can fly around my space in a Marauder watching my intel channel all day and be completely safe. If I flew that same Marauder from Amarr to Jita how long do you think I'd last? Maybe 15 minutes before the suicide gankers got me.

advice you need to do drone squad is much easy do and give u the same 10/10 of a horde or patrol site so is less time also have more % of sentient spawn , and no carrier spawn

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

ohhh...but that drone squas always 100 % leads to a 10/10????

@jackiemaitai1857

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb 100% 10/10 i farm with 4 stormbringer that site becouse is much more easy to do it and get the same escalation than horde without the risk of carrier

@jackiemaitai1857

3 ай бұрын

also with 1 stormbringer is 5 min per site and with 2 are 3.30min per site so u get plenty of 10/10

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@jackiemaitai1857 can yous ent me the fitting?

@jackiemaitai1857

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb of the stormbringer=?

Assuming you could even get 40 million isk per hour nullsec ratting, you would have to rat 4 hours a day every single day of the month to get 5 billion isk. You could work at a job for 7 minutes a day for 30 days to pay for eve.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

dont forget the 12 escalations ;-)

@frosthound_8594

3 ай бұрын

A single drone horde site will net u like 18m isk (taxes included) Ticks happen every 20 mins There are 60 minutes in an hour If you can clear two Horde sites in less than an hour & get a third tick you get about 40m / hr Then you have the Escalation RNG don't forget u can make more if u rat in -1.0 systems & non-drone space as well as BRM modifiers

@firangi

3 ай бұрын

I like Eve for the PvP and my time is limited, so this is my way of thinking as well. But some people enjoy PvE and need to start small as new players, and as they skill up the ISK-making options get a lot better. Especially in null sec.

Oh boy.Danke Ami for seeding us more vexor and heron newbies to kill in papi space, much obliged.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

You fly all the way up to the north to kill a solo vexor? Nooooooo ! :-)))))))

@trolley7657

3 ай бұрын

@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Noise filaments lol

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

@@trolley7657 🙂

Gut erklärt

You need 4 days to get in that vexor also you wont be able to use the heavy drones

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

Ай бұрын

buy some skill injectors

Correction: drone escalation loot sucks, you rarely get more than 350 mill our of one running them

Brilliant

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

Ай бұрын

it is

Warp to the safe spot firstvist better sure. But i must say i never had a bubbled station 3 years in nullsec

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

2 ай бұрын

joined some fast tackle fleets wit ceptors and we always bubbled all the stations first with the bibblers in fleet

@frosthound_8594

2 ай бұрын

You'll get bubbled by competent groups on stations, I saw Odin's call do this to catch ratters

Thank you now I have use for my alt account 😂

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

Ай бұрын

🙂

but david hasselhoff disapproves :(

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

i know.....the hoff is the hoff....

Instructions unclear. Undocked in pod expecting free isk in random nullsec system, a rifter sent me back to hisec. edit: "Gefechtsüberwachungssystem" what in tarnation is that word, can you pronounce it please?

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

lol no....ask ccp to translate that....its german and i think something like "battlewatchingsystem" hahahah

Drone 10/10 yields a Max of ~400-500 mill, never seen anything above that since it only drops Opa, salvage and some drone stuff, no nice shiny dead space mods you get in other stuff

Why is u not streamin

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

Stream + YT is a way to much work...

Heres the thing.. everything in Eve (and i mean even mining) is pvp.

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

25 күн бұрын

true

High-sec is not where you make big money IN THE BEGINNING. :)

@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb

3 ай бұрын

thats true

wow, I've been playing Eve wrong for sooooooo long. :D

@usernameiserror

3 ай бұрын

hehe bet this wont last long to if everyone starts doing it

@firangi

3 ай бұрын

I've been playing Eve since 2009 and have been based in null sec most of that time (and now four years in Horde). It really is the best way to play the game in my opinion.