you found a good way to record this speakers and it gives a usefull comparison. Thanks! I would prefer if you would include more tracks with a singer. Our ears are usually very sensitive to the sound of the human voice. Its a good test for a natural sound reproduction.

Amazing tests mate, i ordered the R1700BT cant wait to set them up, thanks for making my choice easier :)

I've watched sooo many video comparisons at this stage and thanks to Digital Stereophony and the user comments I've just ordered the R1700BT for the best overall value/price and sound quality. I miss something in the R1280DB sound, kinda muffled to my ears. This channel is invaluable!! Thanks a lot.

@draganakuzmanovic911

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely muffled sound in the 1280's, first demo revealed it right the way. 1700's have much clearer and fuller sound.

@DikiBolz

5 ай бұрын

Vocals are clearer with 1280 because 1700 is more mid scooped. The other point of view is that 1280 has less pronounced highs which opens up the space for upper mids.

@Quantumfluxfield

4 ай бұрын

One can think it sounds muffeled, but I found sound like 1700s compared will get tiring after a while. The 1280 is easier to listen to

Thank you for your comparison of these two speakers. Very helpful in deed.

Wow, finally an awesome youtube channel with a proper set up where by you can ACTUALLY tell the difference between speaker sets through your own speakers. Brilliant. Subscribed.

I initially tot this comparison won't give much overview, the recording and the way we listen to our own equipment... yet I am glad I was wrong... keep up the good work!

I did a side by side test with these speakers and this is very accurate. The 1280db has slightly deeper bass but the 1700bt is SO much crisper with a much larger sound stage. The 1700bt is better overall, especially for movies as it's much easier to hear dialogue with the clear separation of sounds.

To my eyes, R1280DB's with speaker covers on them look very good/fancy but sound wise R1700BT got the scores. Love all of your videos, big fan here. Cheers!

@mirsyad9828

5 жыл бұрын

@clavinetjunkie harsh? Dude R1700BT is much more clearer to me.

@TestAccount-uu9vp

4 жыл бұрын

HELL NO 1280db sound way better

@bernard5260

Жыл бұрын

@@TestAccount-uu9vp The 1280db sounds more bassier because it's tweeters has low impact on the bass while the 1700BT is rich in sound and perfect and much balanced sound that 1280db

I ordered both recently and came to the same conclusion most people are commenting: the R1700BT is a little brighter and my pick for "winner" of the two sound wise. The 1280 still sounds good, boosting the treble a little improves it too, but with everything at 0, the 1700 in an easy win. Vocals and live music sounds much more natural on the 1700. I don't see an issue with not having a sub on either set - there is plenty of bass for most of the people that will probably be buying this speaker. Note that the 1280 has a digital out and cox out, that the 1700 does not. This may factor in some peoples decision as the 1280 will be easier to connect to most TVs via the digital out (i actually found this super annoying, since I then needed to use two separate remotes to control the tv and then the sound). Aesthetically, it's a hard pick for me. I do like that the 1280s have a flat front as opposed to the 1700s slant. This has to do with where I have the speakers mounted. I like the 1700 cabinet well enough and the build quality is far superior to the 1280, but something about the 1280 color scheme draws me to it more (both were the wood grain versions). Hope this helps.

@arunsankarrajan2755

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ryan, have you tried connecting 1700BT to a TV. 1280DB seems better with optical connectivity...

@yuheny0

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, just wanted to touch more on the idea about controlling the 1280's tone, adding more treble to get close to the 1700 brighter sound. Do you think it's possible to do that and save money and getting more options in terms of outputs as well.

@j.johnson2792

2 жыл бұрын

Heard people unliked the 1700s bassy sound. Is that an issue?

@CHRoOMAX

2 жыл бұрын

Can you elaborate on "1700 cabinet well enough and *the build quality is far superior to the 1280"* ?

@VIVlt

2 жыл бұрын

so if I will connect 1280 via optical, I will have to use separate remotes for volume, tv volume not going to work? does tv remote work when connecting with line imput ( red and white)?

Thanks - Great video - really helped me make my choice - R1700...

u r the best! i had purchased a Edifier R1800BT, your channel help me made the decision. love the speaker! have a nice day ahead :)

@75yomu

3 жыл бұрын

Is there an R1800BT?

@5alami5ami

3 жыл бұрын

@@75yomu he means 1850

You just make amazing tests! All! Thanks!

This is the best illustration I have seen on speakers I am trying to decide between the two I think I'm going to definitely go with the 1700 BT

They seem to have similar curves, but the R1700 has a wider soundstage and clearer presentation. It also sounds fuller and warmer. Both sound very good. 👍🏽

thank you for this comparison video! it was very effective and has sold me with the R1700BT

@clamum

4 жыл бұрын

Same here, to my ears the R1700BT sounds noticeably better. I guess I'll go with those bad boys.

This is what you call a great comparison vid

This video and the one comparing R1280T vs R1280DB are exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot. Edit: There is also a R1280T vs R1700BT. Amazing.

Thanks a lot! Bought 1700BT. Awesome!

I think Edifier sounds better

@MStreppelhoff

5 жыл бұрын

LOOL...thats was funny :D

@PaperBoat.

5 жыл бұрын

You fool.. both are from Edifier...😂

@willemeduard

5 жыл бұрын

No Edifier is much better

@Heartlessted

5 жыл бұрын

Wtt oh hell no edifier sounds much better !

@ellisfletcher3491

4 жыл бұрын

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Thank you very much for your great vids, your channel is fab for music lovers in need of a good comparison between brands. During many times of listening to this video I noticed more and more that individual instruments on te 1280DB have much more character than on the 1700BT. This is very noticable during the classical music, the cello sounds full and warm. Accoustic guitar sounds very natural, so do piano notes. At first glance the 1700BT speakers seem more open, but the sound is (imho) 'tuned to please' with way to much high frequencies, no natural sound, mainly bass and highs. So last week I decided to buy the R1280DB and all I can say is: wow! After 4 days of breaking in they sound amazing. One of my test CD's is by the Crash Test Dummies (album 'God Shuffled His Feet' with MMM x3 etc) and I hear all kinds of new little effects, riffs and individual background singers. I am very, VERY happy I bought the R1280DB speakers, they are a marvel. The bass is full and punchy, but not overpowering the mids and highs. You still hear melody in bass lines. They sound bright, warm, never tiring and very natural. I'd buy them again, and again. I'm hooked. Greetings from Holland!

@geoffreymathews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing an alternative perspective. The 1700BT sounds a bit shrill at times while the R1280DB is "warmer". Maybe that's because the 1700BT can reproduce treble tones better?

@KLiNoTweet

Жыл бұрын

Me too. The 1280 BT are really really good.

Thank you for doing such great videos! I was between these two speakers..and I just bought the r1700bt but I wish they were not brown and I kinda like the looks of the 1280s more but sound wise I liked the 1700s more.

this channel deserves way more subs....

Nice! Was thinking about the R1280DBs but after your test, the R1700BTs is a much better choice and worth the extra $20.

I need a help. I like very much the test, but it is possible to choose the best song, but I would like to use in my home studio. So, my question is, what is more "flat" to use as studio monitors? my room is small, and I will not make acoustic preparation, it is only for my hobby. Thanks

HI there wanted to ask if the 1700BT are still a good set to buy in 2020? or are there better alternatives in that price range? i do like how 1700BT sound cause i like the detail they produce. Thanks.

Hi I think these comparisons are very useful at least to realize how the two speakers sound between them, especially with different musical genres the test is of great help in the choice .... it is good eris 3.5 to mix using as soundcard that Macbook integrated? Thank you

guide plase! wich ones good for a ( kind of a ) flatter responced monitoring !

You not mentioned the bass and treble settings for the both.. is it full on the both 1700 nd 1280

Thank you, you deserve more fans

Great video but I'm having a hard time chosing between the 2 speakers in my case I am going to use them on my laptop for watching movies and listening to music Wich ones would you recommend?

Listening with my R1700 BT. I love it

thank you for this insight !! Im gravitating towards to R1700BT for the convenience of bluetooth as i will be doing a lot casual listening along with with occasional mixing and they sound on par with presonus eris 3.5.HAve any of of guys tried the pionee DJ 40 ?I just came across that and seems like it fills the room up a little more .

Bought the 1280db at first cuz I was on a budget. Today I got the 1700bt on sale for 110$. Instantly sold the 1280’s to my dad. There is no going back lol. I was so torn apart choosing between 1280t and 1280db at first and eventually went with the db’s just because I’ve got a potent motherboard on my PC which has digital output and I was thinking that’s going to make a difference, but eventually I feel like I made a mistake since the db’s sounded so muffled. Lucky for my dad though is that he needs the BT mode. Now with the 1700bt’s it’s day and night difference and I’m no audiophile by any means I just wanted something decent for my gaming rig in the 100 euro range and I feel like these are unbeatable, they are definitely worth the “entry-level audiophile stereo speakers” tag I have read on various reviews about them. And of course thank you for these videos. Really helped me finally making a decision.

@jw7268

Жыл бұрын

U charged your dad for used speakers? Must be rough.

@juniorndour

Ай бұрын

@@jw7268 Thats all you got from his comment ? Some people find negatives in everything

Has anyone used the 1700bt for mixing??? Need some input befire deciding to buy these.

May I know what padding youre using under the speakers? Thanks!

Hi, can I know what microphone you use for recording? And the between distance? Thanks

Now i know what i want for my birthday present... R1700 BT !!!

really well done, almost overlook the R1700, although I think the 1280 isnt a bad choice, 1700 is a better one

love your videos ....keep em coming!

Wow these speakers sound so good!!! Listening through only the left channel on my broken set of $20 logitech speakers

Hi can you give me the difference in height between these speakers can't find accurate figures

Thank you for this video!! you have made my decision absolute

That's exactly what i need) Thanks for the video, Bro!

I felt drum beats are better in R1280D. Is it because R1700BT are little bit bright, and the highs are masking the mids? Secondly, when you made this video, all the bass and treble controls are in neutral?

What do you recommend setting wise for treble and bass on 1700?

This was so helpful, thank you!

Best speaker review on all of KZread. I appreciate all the different types of songs and just letting us listen without any banter. Thanks! I'll definitely buy using your links.

Just opened and setup the R1700BT. Bought on sale for $134 AUD. My review is 3.5 stars. Good sound but the Treble control doesn't do much, and mine is not properly aligned (the groove at 12 o'clock is at 1 o'clock on mine; the Bass knob is fine). The speakers have a nice weight and feel like decent quality, except the wood effect feels a bit fake. I would recommend a minimum 5" driver (R2000DB maybe) for anything bigger than a bedroom. I got the Mackie CR5X on sale for the lounge room after my KRK 6" became faulty.

Very helpful vid thanks, planning to get one of those in the future

confuse bout this two. how about R1280DB+Sub VS R1700BT ? i already had JBL Sub

I think 1700 is a bit more clear and sharpen in the sound than 1280, 1280 is better in spatial and soften sound. I will choose 1700!

Hello, is there any difference between the aux and pc inputs on the 1700s? I would use them for a turntable and a cd player, nort a computer.

@francohic

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same. Any answer?

Amazing detailed test. Thank you.

It's a great compare testing

Great great great video comparison and a really good way to get around the usual limitations of YT Compression and recording to digital in general. My solution is to buy both so I get the best of both worlds! But its cleat that the 1700 is miles and miles better on the top end and mids are less muddy but the bass on the 1280 can not be denied. Hard to believe it's delivered by cones that small!

1280 is out of stock in my country. Is it possible to make 1700 sound like 1280 through eq? It's too bright for me. Also the bass going lower in 1280 is very good to hear

Ordered edifier R1700bt should arrive this week it will look awesome in my home bar

Good job. I bought the R1700bt. Thank you so much!!!

@FFLarrosa

3 жыл бұрын

Sergio buen día, compraste al final? cómo suenan?

Which is more appropriate to use as a monitor?

Got my 1700BT a few days ago. The left speaker is noticeably weaker on bass than the right one. What do heck? Anyone else experienced this? Thanks :)

Okay, so nobody ( as far as 10 comments down) thought about the tone controls of both speakers. So, I was wondering, would the R1280's be a better option because of the output options by tweaking the treble to achieve close to clarity sounds of the R1700? I mean, the bass and treble controls are there for a reason right? Judging from the comments below, some people prefer the crispness of the 1700 and some people find it harsh. So, wouldn't the R1280 be the best overall if you could just tweak the treble to match the 1700's?

@luccateixeira5470

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.

Thanks a lot! Really helpful with my decision.

It's like night and day, with only 25 bucks difference. The 1700s sound much clearer and have much Better soundstage and bass response

Very good job and extremely helpful

congratulations, great video!

The Man on Fire music is by which artist? Thanks.

Lovely videos, please include music with distorted guitars as well, that will help the rock/metal musicians to make the choice.

@EctoMorpheus

3 жыл бұрын

There is, 6:00??

The R1700BT has overly bright highs compared to the R1280Db which are more muted (half way would be great). Not sure if I would pay extra to get the R1700BT instead of the R1280DB.. Maybe I like more the R1280DB...

The R1700 seems to me to translate the music more faithfully. the r1280 sounds too dirty for my liking. I prefer the r1700, I'm going to buy some monitors to mix music and I'm between the r1700 and the JBL 140. which one do you recommend of the 2? to mix music.

I like 1280db more ,opposite common opinion Another question how to listen this comparison. Is it enough to use average smartphone speakers?

Not a fair comparison because of the difference in woofer height and bass port placement.

Hi. Who sings Dream a Dream at 3:13 ? Can't find it anywhere. Thank you.

@DSAUDIOreview

6 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKJlqqOmk9G3g7A.html Look into description for more info

I also feel bit brighter. but more clearer and got sound stage. If we can adjust with tone control, 1700 wouldnt be bad choice.

if used on a piano, which one is better?

Hello all, which speakers will be sound more good in low volume on the table?

what title of Deep sound ?

Gracias por el video, es lo que necesitaba. Compré la 1700 para la sala de estar, y ahora quería una un nivel mas bajo que para el dormitório y la elección fué la 1280.

@augustogallo1934

3 жыл бұрын

cual suena mejor?

@MrJCAstorga

3 жыл бұрын

@@augustogallo1934 1700

Men! You cannot find this level of comparison anywhere on the internet. My pick is the r1700bt, it sounded more natural, listen to the song dream a dream, r1280db has echo/hollow sound. Thanks

does anyone feel the R1700BT has similar soundstage as R1280T which I like? Too bad there is no BT on R1280T.

It seems like the highs are much clearer on the 1700BT. I think they also sounded better on the bass test.

Ссылаясь на данный видеообзор при поиске колонок от 4 до 10 тыс. и проанализировав рынок, характеристики, отзывы, фирмы, качество - все таки решился приобрести эти колонки. Описание и впечатления: 1. Звук заметно качественный после SVENа за 2,5 тыс. (легкие, MDF-пластик), но звук не идеальный по отношению к Сони за 15 тыс. и звуковым системам HI-FI (не сравнивал и не слышал, но как показалось что частотный диапазон бывает прям ВАУ по сравнению с этими качественными по звучанию EFIDER R1700BT по наслышке и интуитивно) 2. Качество корпуса + вес. Однако если возьмете черного цвета и колонки будут расположены вблизко (10 - 30 см) и при освещении от светильника внутри пористая структура дерева будет выделять грязь, белые пятна, пыль. При выборе цвета имейте ввиду если колонки будут вблизи перед вами, но по мне черный цвет идеально вписывается к монитору и системнику и решил поставить у монитора, дефектов внешнего вида уже не заметно. 3. Громкость звука удивительная. Через кабель если подключаете, слышно как 10 Вт вместо 30 Вт. Как и те SVEN-новские. Через блютус громкость 25-30 Вт ! Это маленькая бомба ребят! Звук качественный, громкий, вблизи не послушаешь но на максимум слышится немного каши в частотах, но это не особо огорчает вперевес всем частотам, качеству, громкости. Басы пробивают сквозь тело и на средней громкости, особенно если выкрутить бас на всю. Соседей достать можно но не нужно) . Кому не хватает баса чтоб прям, лучше прислонить колонки к груди) 4. Пассивная колонка звучит громче пассивной но не сильно заметно, если прослушать на маленькой-средней громкости вблизи. Наверное из-за длинного кабеля ко второй колонке. 5. По моей версии пульт на 6 кнопок. Все функции выполняет. Единственное когда выключаешь колонки с пульта он выключается, но механический выключатель на колонках остается включенный для галочки. В этом случае старайтесь не проеб*ть пульт, иначе хз как вы колонки включите) А лучше не выключать колонки с пульта и вовсе. 6. Блютус по айфону и андроид. По айфону - громкость регулируется везде (на колонках, с телефона, с пульта). Оптимальное решение - прибавить на всю на колонке/с пульта и прибавлять/убавлять громкость с айфона, что очень удобно. По андроиду - громкость регулируется только с колонок и пульта, что в некоторых случаях не очень удобно. Может мой телефон старенький не имеет возможности прибавлять/убавлять громкость, уточните у других пользователей и собственно вопрос и к вам!

Is this a stereo speakers?

compare? with headphone/ smartphone?

Thank you, helped me a lot.

@Digital Stereophony Hi, can i ask you about sound quality of EDIFIER R1100 to compere with the R1700BT. is r1700bt realy another level to it?

@DSAUDIOreview

4 жыл бұрын

I do not know R1100 so I can not tell

are the better than the teufel concept e magnum from 2007? i think of getting a bit smaller

@Takeruooji

3 жыл бұрын

concept e magnum T_T mine died lately...

Trumpets, bass drum, hi hat, powerfull, attack, strings, voices... Edifier R1700BT wins.

@thedownunderverse

4 жыл бұрын

Mononoke Also imaging and separation.

@stevecharette4421

4 жыл бұрын

You must be deaf. The 1280s do not sound as good as the 1700s

@erdincylmaz2842

4 жыл бұрын

nope 1700 sounds too bright, 1280 wins.

@stevecharette4421

4 жыл бұрын

@@erdincylmaz2842 i have both models. The 1700s do sound better.

@vforvendetta937

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevecharette4421 what about bass

They sound really good at this price point. Man believe me in my country the 1700BT are 100$ even and the 1280DB are around 110-120$ i think they because they are newer released, it's crazy.🙂

@DSAUDIOreview

6 жыл бұрын

Same story in my country, the price bump with added functions puts R1280DB at the same price level as R1700BT...

which is better for djing?

I'm currently using the R1280DB's, the R1700BT's, the R1850DB's, the R2000DB's, and the S350DB's (2.1 system). In each case, the sound quality go's up a notch or two as you climb the model ladder. In a real world scenario, using great cables, etc., you'll find that although the 1280's are nice (especially for the money), they are a bit boxy sounding on some material. When you jump to the 1700 BT speakers, the sound becomes a bit more open (and yes, just a tad brighter if you want to use that term - but still nicely balanced). I've got several DAC's (that I switch back and forth via a switcher) and you should hear the unbelievable high-end sounds coming out of the R1700BT's whn compared with a DAC like the iFi ZenDAC - just remarkable and breath-taking. Now if you jump up to the RR1850DB's, you will begin to really notice a difference as the speakers are even more dynamic, have more bass and are even more open - more so than "next step up" R2000DB's. The Edifier line of speakers are surprisingly superb for the money and if you are careful with your other gear and accessories (such as using upgraded RCA cables, a great DAC, upgraded USB cables to connect to a PC for instance, etc., the Edifiers then become audiophile quality transducers to be sure. The only issue I have with the majority of Edifier speakers is that they use these old fashioned PC type of cables to connect the speakers. And the lengths of these cables are ridiculous - I believe they are 15-16' in length. Since many of us these Edifier speakers in a near-field environment by our desktop PC's (or laptops), having that long of a cumbersome PC style of speaker cable is ridiculous. Both the R1700BT's and the R1850DB's use the same type of 4-pin cable. I actually found a vendor on eBay that sells 53" versions of these cables - which comes to around 4.5 feet, which is ideal for a PC setup. Here is the direct link to that cable. I've already ordered 3 sets of these cables - they are quality using belden cable. The link is (just cut in paste if the link doesn't allow you to click on it): www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-MOLEX-4-Pin-53-High-Quality-Speaker-Cable-for-Edifier-R1700BT-R1850DB/333630116398?epid=1953258580&hash=item4dade7922e:g:JlUAAOSwB4Je7QyY Only the 1280DB's allow for conventional speaker wire to be used. and I use a better grade 14 gauge variety. On all of the others they use either 4-pin or 5-pin old fashioned DIN cables - which are almost impossible to find anywhere. However, I've managed to crack the code and I've had Blue Jeans Cables map out these cables and they made me some nice audiophile versions of these cables (5-pin) for the R2000DB and they sound wonderful. Have a great day! Ben Herrmann Fuquay Varina, NC

@kamashi85

4 жыл бұрын

Upgraded USB cables for better sound? :/

@MrBenherrmann

4 жыл бұрын

@@kamashi85 I am copying this brief article from David Salz from Wirewold. He says it best - better than I could - see below: Are USB cables really just 1's and 0's traveling down a wire? If not then what? Digital signals are actually square waves that are detected by the receiver when they pass a voltage threshold. Any variation in the shape or timing of these waveforms can cause errors in these signals. How sending a file of music is different than that of an image to print? It is just data after all. When a file is saved or sent to a printer, the error correction system in the receiving device can ask the sending device to resend the file until it confirms that the file is completely correct. Streamed music signals do not benefit from this resend function and therefore error correction systems cannot replace missing or corrupted data. What is happening inside a USB cable that could impact the sound or information being transmitted? The normal losses of cables will round and tilt the signal waveforms, creating data errors that cause audible losses, tonal coloration and distortion. Those losses and colorations can easily be heard when standard USB cables are compared to reference adapters made from USB plug contacts soldered back-to-back. Designing a USB cable for minimal loss and maximum waveform fidelity is the only way to minimize these losses. Separate power and signal? Computer power supplies are notoriously noisy and that noise can compromise the fidelity of USB audio. Most USB cables do not isolate the noisy power conductor from the signal conductors, so noise can mix with the signal and it can also enter the DAC through the 5 volt USB power conductor. Therefore, the 5 volt conductor needs to be isolated from the signal and filtered of noise or replaced by a separate quiet power source. Noise? Noise can also be generated from static charge interaction within the cable. This triboelectric noise adds roughness to the signal waveforms. That roughness creates additional timing errors (jitter) in the signal. Reducing this noise enables cables to sound closer to the purity of the reference direct connection.

@DiogoSotero

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Berned, sorry for the late reply but i hope you can help me. do you think that the s350db is an upgrade over the R1850DB or even the R2000DB. I'm not a basshead but i want a good par of sepaaker (2.0 or 2.1) for my pc (music, movies and gaming). thanks for the help in advance

@MrBenherrmann

3 жыл бұрын

@@DiogoSotero Well, let's clarify here first. Did you mean comparing just the bookshelf speakers by themselves (without the subwoofer on the 350)? I think the R1850DB and the R2000DB are superb speakers. Obviously, the R2000DB will give you a bit more bass due to the 5" woofer. It is of "my opinion" that audio quality-wise, both speakers easily beat the 350's. The 350's will obviously go lower because of the added subwoofer. During my tests, the 350's will first impress you - and this could also be psychological due to how gorgeous they look (especially the bookshelf speakers). But on extended listening, you find that the mids and highs are a bit shrill when compared to other Edifier speakers. Right now I am listening to a pair of R1850 DB's and also connected is the Edifier T5 subwoofer, which is basically the same subwoofer as on the S350 - but with more controls, etc). This combination easily beats the S350's with a much smoother midrange and superb highs. And the lows are handled quite well. I just got finished listening to Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man," and the sheer impact was amazing with this setup (1850's and the inexpensive T5 subwoofer). Now if you don't want to go the subwoofer route, then yes, the R2000DB is an ideal trade-off. It has a nice full (rich) sound and you will be surprised at how much bass that baby pumps out. I can heartily recommend just those speakers alone also. The sky's the limit here - so many Edifiers to choose from. Ben

@DiogoSotero

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrBenherrmann thanks for the help realy apreaciate it. You did go streght to the point. So between the r1850db + t5 and r2000db what is the best all rounder. A little piece of information. The r1850 has a successor, the r1855. I believe only the remote is different and the bluetooth now is 5.0. Best regards

idk if you listened through monitor speakers or monitor headphones but when I listen to the 1700 on my TV it sounds perfect while the 1280 sounds muffled. But when I listen to it on my phones the 1700 has a lot of treble, almost hurting the ears and it lacks medium when it comes to the electric guitar parts, snares, brass on the jazz. while the 1280 that sounded muffled now sound good becausa it has everything that 1700 lacks in medium

what's that first song?

bass and treble in same level?

Best comparison video I've seen so far. I think I'll go with 1700s too. If the sound is a little too bassy, I think that with a bit of adjustment on the knobs, it should be fine tuned for my preference. The 1280s do sound just a little muffled.

@user-zm5sw3xu1w

Ай бұрын

The Edifier R1280DBs is the best neutral sounding entry level audiophile speakers for Vinyl playback, they have pleasant high and a good bass and more importantly the mid's come through quite well , so a good all rounder for all genre of music as well. Plug in a T5 subwoofer and can take it to the next level :)

thanks for the comparison , R1700BT is my choice

Can you help, I really can’t decide between these two speakers 1280db and 1700bt. They’ll be on my desk mostly to play music and mix. Please help!!! Or if better recommendations in same price.

@DSAUDIOreview

6 жыл бұрын

For mixing I would look into studio monitors rather than those two Edifiers. Mackie CR5 or, even better JBL LSR305, if they are in Your price range

@aenockha9529

6 жыл бұрын

thank u for the reply

@aenockha9529

6 жыл бұрын

what are the best budget studio monitors? the jbl's are out of my budget here in canada

1700bt tiene buenos agudos con mas vida pero tambien flaquea tambien porque a veces como q tiene mucho brillo en el sonido en cambio el 1280bt es mas plano mas aburrido pero no esos momentos de brillo. Depende el gusto de cada uno

The R1280DB sounds like it has bigger midbass drivers than the R1700BT.

R1280 are more warm, ( detailed mids , a bit boxy) A possibly good choice for vinyl maybe? In the other hand, R17OO sounds V equalized strong lows and highs, less mid, not bad at all. As always, usefull video.

Which ones go to ELEVEN?