I just want to go fly my airplane after work, that's how I relax. I'm a carpenter not a computer programmer. I'm good with my open TX for now thank you !

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I think that many pilots feel exactly the same. I hope that EdgeTX puts more focus on the GUI and making it easier to use for the new pilot.

@MeshJedi

2 жыл бұрын

What painless says. EdgeTX renoves a lot of the OTX complexity and makes it easier to just grab and go to just fly and not mess with the radio. And you can still delve deep in to non flying days if you like to tinker with that

@DaRoach5882

2 жыл бұрын

You should give it a try now... The UI enhanced with touch screen has been amazing and I have completed moved over to EdgeTX

Great tutorials Lee we get all our group to watch these.

Interestingly I've had an email from one of the lead developers this morning that concluded 'I think you are pretty much right' so the project itself agrees with many of the points and is aware that there is a lot to do - that alone is an exciting and encouraging message. Thank you to all of you who left thoughtful comment on this video. Just because another pilot doesn't share your view doesn't mean you should become abusive or rude. I've deleted those comments that are and banned some who went too far. Thanks for watching and commenting in the spirit of the channel. Happy flying!

@mean_cheese_fpv1059

2 жыл бұрын

As always a meaningful critique from your side lee. Thanks for another constructive video

@b.w.oostdam8875

2 жыл бұрын

Still buzzing in the back of my mind,... it is free and takes a rather great amount of effort. An enormous THANK YOU to the developers !

@MeshJedi

2 жыл бұрын

Patching to ETX is painless (heh) and easier than OTX companion flasher if you use the e ETX flasher software instead of copying firmware files which requires several steps moving from OTX to get the bootloader and such first.

@index7787

2 жыл бұрын

As an NV14 owner (have 2 of them), Edge TX is literally the only option and it's been working great! So glad to get my preferred radio flight ready again. Currently working on using the bluetooth on the radio to directly program betaflight on quads with bluetooth, would be a game changer.

@spaceshipdev

2 жыл бұрын

Did you contribute to the GitHub issues at all? Did you document the shortfalls out of interest?

I am using it since the first release and I am very satisfied, works very well.

Ive been so anxious for this video!

Developers are most certainly still learning the project and its code to figure how to add the new stuff and even improve old stuff so this first version where they added new stuff without braking anything major from opentx codebase its pretty good sign that they are trying to keep it in a good path! Lets hope for the best!

Long time user of OpenTx...Too much spare time this weekend so I updated my Radiomaster T16S to Edge Tx 2.5. Maybe its early but wow... the speed improvement I saw and felt when navigating the UI is a good enough reason to switch. The features will keep being refined and hopefully new creative ideas can be added but man... I can change models in secs vs feeling the slow lag of the previous OTX ui... Worth the upgrade for me!

Love your explanation. Have a number of very good very expensive JR radios, no telemetry and built in programming, which makes things easier. Learning to understand code is frustrating. What programmers forget, imho, is that to build really good software they need to firmly believe that the end user is a complete newbie. If it takes a program background to use, something was overlooked in the process. There are builders and there are users. Users aren’t capable of being good builders. I have taken full scale helicopters apart- completely, and inspected, repaired unsatisfactory components, repainted the entire airframe and all ancillary parts, and flown in it. But opextx is still a head scratcher. Having set up screens to build a model should be easy for the talent that builds these soft wares, but they don’t remember how difficult it is for the new people who are not programmers.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment. Many opensource developments overlook (or ignore) the needs of the end user for things to be easy to use as they assume that everyone will understand what to do and it is 'obvious'. As someone who understands Opentx very well but spends hours every week helping others, I know how overwhelming Opentx can be for many. Projects like this will benefit from having a number of people involved who can represent the average user. I have my fingers crossed for EdgeTX. They seem to want to look at this.. Happy flying!

Very informative video. Well done.

I feel it was developed because we needed it - and it works, I have been using OpenTX for ages FPV. Other radios just couldn't do what OpenTX does, and thats why I use it. Recommending it to fellow fliers is fraught with disaster, you will be forever their go to to sort out all the issues they get.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I know your pain. I always end up fixing/tweaking a radio for a pal at the flying field! If you don't use it every day it just feels too complicated! Happy flying!

@thecatofnineswords

2 жыл бұрын

You looked into the void. You are now the expert in the void and will be called on to support all future void-viewers. - A common story of near most everyone who's worked in IT.

Hi Lee great video and you're 100% correct in your assessment. I have all the videos that I need saved as well as my knowledge of open tx. And love my radiomaster T16 but I now purchased the Frsky x20 so learning ethos and I have to say I love it as well. And with updates coming think and fast I'm really wishing I could put that on the radiomaster. Maybe the edge tx team could get some ideas from ethos. Looking forward to seeing how they progress with there project though and will send them some penneys if it ends up on my radio. 🙂👍

Quite a project there. Thats almost like creating an universal OS for mobile phones that should work from late 90s nokias to modern iphones. Not the easiest task to pull off. Fingers crossed indeed!

EdgeTx is great. Hope one day the team will introduce minor/bugfix-only versions.

I really agree. As a newbie to the hobby we need more simplicity. I cannot make a volantex g2 work with zohd kopilot lite with rx fs-ia10b and eachine tx16s. Part of this problem may be in every of the 4 parts and I have seen dozens of videos to understand what happens. We need more easy cross-platform communication, safety and simplicity. Greetings, your job is great.

@precisionleadthrowing4628

2 жыл бұрын

Just a note, I’m starting as well - learning anything takes effort and 90% of the learning effort you will expend on the first 10% of the knowledge.

Great video 👏👏

OTX development has died out - ETX is it today. The ETX devs are putting in new features, and squashing new bugs - in real time. It's alive, while OTX is not. And the touch is priceless - never gonna use a Tx without touch again. Been flying ETX since June - got over 200 flights on it to date - mainly drones.

hi lee could you please run the batery right down. i did it and was not impressed. no bat low warnings and it just crashed need to remove battery to reset and would turn on still had 7v ish

Great review - Could not agree more about revamping that interface. Knowing how most use OTX, those items should be front and center and the rest moved behind a second layer with widgets to automate the basic. The fact that it still uses transparent GIFs instead of PNG and the resolution is low for most graphics while screens are big speaks volumes. It is time for a new way, not just more of the same now in colour. Add to that the fact that Tango and Mambo support has now moved from Fall to Spring and you have to think it’s more of the same. The one plus in my opinion is the fact that ELRS support in Edge TX allows for some settings like 500hz that are not supported in OTX.

The real question about edge TX that i have not seen anywhere being addressed is.. to us the more experienced pilots who already own an expensive and perfectly working radio with various modules like an x9d+ se or something like that, does edge TX add value? If edge TX is mainly about the touch screen and comes with all the clunkiness and bugs of a new project why should people with radios without touch screen bother? Are there any tangible benefits? And what are they? Open TX for the established pilot comes with the trustworthiness that you know what you're doing and it will work cause it just works, if you pay enough attention to learn how to setup things correctly... For me it remains to be seen if Edge TX is a fork for TX16s and people with touch screens or it is the real deal for everyone with clear benefits.

@divingfalconfpv4602

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like he definitely said it isn't worth it yet if you don't have touch screen. There's more features coming in the future so maybe soon. I don't know why some reviewers are like it's so great swap your radio over. I'm like I have a x9 lite s . What do I get that's better

@AerialWaviator

2 жыл бұрын

There are also a number of minimalistic transmitters (game controller-like) than rely on OTx. This motivation to simply functionality and UI, while exposing advanced feature and UI (like high resolution and touch) where appropriate. Think the direction of EdgeTx will follow the more active community members. One way to ensure support is owners of particular hardware being active in testing and providing feedback to the project. There are a great number of x9_ owners, but if all they do is fly old models, and don't care about making configuration changes, or making updates, then what they have will just work the way it always did ... until the hardware breaks, or is replaced.

I feel like you forgot to mention 500 hz stick polling! I am personally gonna wait a few releases after the Tango 2 support is out to switch.

Hi I wondering if you know how i can bind frsky receivers in redundancy system in Edge-tx? I have tried, but I can't bind one with telemetry and another without telemetry. That's no problem in Open-tx but it is a problem in Edge-tx I think.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

I was able to do this about two weeks ago, so if it was an issue in 2.5.0 it will be fixed in 2.6.0 as it is already resolved in the nightlies.

I have the flysky fairy i6 and can’t get it to update to the 10 ch I am using windows 11 and it will not open it on my computer it doesn’t do anything can anyone help

I changed over to EdgeTX on my Radiomaster TX16S about a month ago, all went well or so I thought. I took one of my glow engined planes for a flight and the trims had all changed, my arm switch no longer opened the throttle enough to start the engine and keep it ticking over. Control surfaces all worked in the right direction but plane flew like crap! I immediately change back to OpenTX when I got home.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure that it will get a lot better in the coming releases. The project does seem to want to make things better and they have a lot of ground to make up that should have been fixed/added by the primary project in the last two years.. Here's hoping!

@paulkiddier659

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 I’m keeping my fingers crossed and I’ll try the next release.

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Did you ever figure out what happened? What version were you running when this happened? 2.5?

I went from a X7 to a X20 Black & then recently got a X20S Blue I love the OS as I've never had to look at any video's ect, I'm running FLEX.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure that EdgeTX is looking at things like ETHOS to see how others are tackling the usability issues.. I hope so anyway!

@Arcave

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 It's just as you said a few years ago "it would be great if Frsky made a easier OS that everyone could use with ease" well they did but all you YT bigwigs have ignored it shame as the whole firmware thing is over with Access and Archer Rx. For me I prefer the X20 shape as it's like the X7 chiselled off on the corners.

@garythatcher4219

2 жыл бұрын

I have just purchased the x20 and I must say I just love it and ethos will be brilliant when finished.

@Arcave

2 жыл бұрын

@@garythatcher4219 The current firmware pretty much does everything I need.

Greetings! I just updated my TX16S to EdgeTX, and am trying to change the Splash screen, but am unable to find where that image file is stored on the micro sdcard. Any help pointing me to where that directory is would be appreciated.

@frankflyrc

2 жыл бұрын

Nevermind, user error! I named the file 'splashscreen.png'! Corrected it to 'splash.png' and works!:D

Hi, please clarify will edge tx bind with x8R and also how to find out which version is your X8R programmed with. Any way to find out ?. I had purchased two x8R with tx16S . Finding a way to bind it.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/k46c2NCmaM2eaLA.html should explain. An MPM radio running Edge should bind ok once you have the right version and flavour of ACCST selected on the radio.. no way to find what is on the reciever sadly so it is trial and error (or ask the seller of the X8Rs)

Hi Lee. My X12S with EDGETX has all the latest upgrades and works fine with ISRM internal module to talk to my Access receivers. It does not work with my R9M-2019 external module. Using Companion 2.5.0, it shows External Radio Module; protocol; that R9M-2019 is an option, however when I look for that on the radio, it is NOT there as an option, only the R9M. I did enable "externalaccessmod" in the radio profile flash. (It all worked in OpenTX) Any thoughts on this? Thx

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Note sure, I'd ask in the discordant. Best of luck with it

I switch one of my rc’s over and got everything set up but I must be missing something cause the quads got nuts on certain stick movements. Switch back to open TX and problem gone. I use TBS crossfire

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I'd report it to the developers in the discord.. Best of luck

My TX16s has literally just been delivered and I'm looking at it wondering if I should just jump straight to EdgeTX. I'm moving from flysky.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

You could bit you'll be updating more as EdgeTX matures.. Happy flying

Thx a lot for this video!! so you would wait a little bit before switching? If I understood it correctly? in the meanwhile, keep up the good work!!

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

It is getting better with every release. I've tried V2.6 (current at time of writing) and it is starting to feel a lot more polished!

The open/edge TX interface is more complicated than less feature rich interfaces but honestly really isn't all that complicated. I find the only people that take issue with it actually just take issue with learning anything in general, it doesn't speak to the design of the interface. While I support adding configuration wizards to expedite programing new models, the current interface is honestly fantastically well designed around the large feature set, there is no way to dumb it down without removing functionality. One option could be to offer an EdgeTX-Lite with a stripped down feature set for basic applications or basic people.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

While, for me, OpenTX/EDGETX makes sense I know a lot of very clever pilots that struggle with it. For many it is too complex and not how their mind works and/or they don't use it enough to remember the nitty-gritty of how to change things when they need to. Want to reverse a channel? Easy, you can do it in one of four places and each of them has specific benefits. Add EXPO? Sure, again available in three places this time.. As someone who spends hours a day helping pilots with OpenTX and often gets approached on the flight line from pilots with questions about it, I can attest to how confusing it is for so many. Thinking about the system from a less technical users POV would lower the point of entry and make it a lot easier. Interestingly, this is an aim of EdgeTX and they have some cool ideas on how to do this...

What motor size do you recommend for a tarot 650 frame? Thx

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

With this long arms it can go up to 15" propellers, you can use something like a 4114-320kv motor and 6S LiPo to get maximum lift (that gives 1.5~1.75kg of thrust per arm). Lots of options, it depends on the weight and flying time you want. See my motor and prop series... Best of luck

As someone who has recently returned to the hobby from a long break and has just got a Radio Master TS16 and having watched this I take it I will be better placed persevering with Open TX for the time being or do I take the plunge and start with Edge?

@Pilotltd

2 жыл бұрын

Leave off for now if you expect to use Telemetry scripts.

@joolz989

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pilotltd Cheers Steve

@MrAlucardDante

2 жыл бұрын

You should definetly switch to ETX. There are so many bugfixes that are worth having. Plus being able to use your touch screen is a gmae changer.

@Pilotltd

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAlucardDante Not when most of the useful stuff simply isn't supported yet. Half working touch screen is not a game changer, how often do you use it in flight?

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pilotltd as in? Do you mean scripts like betaflight configurator, expresslrs, inav lua, yappu telemetry? As those all work. An no, you probably wouldn't use the touchscreen in flight since you'd use the sticks. But you would use it to edit your model settings, and once lua developers start making use of the touchscreen support, you will be able to use touchscreen lua apps to control stuck also

Nice review. Does Edgetx compatible with yaapu script?

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Not yet, from what I can see.. Happy flying

Thanks for a really balanced discussion of EdgeTX as opposed to some of the more 'hyped' videos. I would move like a shot if some of your wishlist items were implemented but, till then, I'll just leave my TX16S on OpenTX. You never know, we might even get v2.4 (=touchscreen) one day! The day you judge EdgeTX ready is the day I'll switch.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment. Lots of 'hype' about this project from a few fans that will always be tricky to live up to but I think my overview was balanced from my experiences here. As someone who spends hours every week helping pilots with the OpenTX interface (that EdgeTX us still using) - I'd take ease of use features and core bug fixes over features like faster stick polling and faster data rates for things like ELRS any day.. Happy flying!

As soon as I see anyone hold up that Eachine radio, I know they're not using it on their main Tx! 🤣 I have an SD card with the upgrade on it, but haven't made the leap yet. 42 models on my TX16, the thought of going through all that and recreating all the widgets (which is a best-case scenario) gives me the willies!

@loc4725

2 жыл бұрын

Not using the Eachine as a main Tx? Why, what is wrong with it?

@TheLostSquadron

2 жыл бұрын

@@loc4725 Nothing, but you didn't get it for free like a bunch of popular channels did

I’m so frustrated, may sell my new FRSKY X9D+2019! I’ll start with Zadig 2.7 and windows11. Nothing works for me! New computer won’t recognize the radio!

hi lee - have really enjoyed and learned so much from your channel over the years, cheers. re: the OTX project evolving to radically improve and simplify the interface for general users, i dunno... afraid that would seem to be extremely unlikely and unfortunately i'd expect it's just as unlikely for EdgeTX as well, maybe even more so. the problem is really the same one that has folks leaving OTX to work on EdgeTX in general - i.e. the developers are mostly interested in inventing and introducing new technology at the code level, which is a very, very different skill than either developing great documentation or developing a superb user experience (UX). neither seem likely to happen, but of the two the improved documentation would seem more likely because the bar to doing that work is comparatively lower than the UX work - i.e. it's not fun and it's not easy, but it is doable to a reasonable degree with enough concerted effort. in contrast, great UX starts with great UX design which is a deeply creative discipline distinct from great technology feature development and folks with the ability to design and develop great user interfaces are far rarer than developers with the ability to work on incremental feature improvements. the counter example here would be stepping back to look at the proprietary user interfaces from companies like JR, Spektrum, etc. that you're alluding to as providing what OTX should be considering. those systems may not have the unlimited flexibility of a system like OTX, but crucially they do cover the vast majority of needs for nearly all users, beginner and advanced alike. and to get that depth of functionality and breadth of end user coverage, those companies invest a great deal of time and money in designing, developing, testing, refining, documenting and maintaining those systems which they know they must do because they are in the business of selling radio systems to anyone, not just folks like you and me who actually enjoy the flexibility and programming bent of OTX for it's own sake. and we see this idea coming right to our doorstep now with FrSky moving seriously towards their own proprietary system with Ethos. at the end of the day working at cutting edge technology is fun, generally self-contained and comparatively painless while nearly all these other less sexy facets of software development that result in great applications for users are not. all that said, i truly hope i'm wrong here and OTX or EdgeTX do evolve to become great user applications beyond the capable and flexible platforms they are.

Hallo I need your help I have xm+ and r9m mod elrs. Before I install firmware edge tx everything normal. But after I use firmware edge tx my receiver not binding (xm+ and r9m mod elrs). What should I do? Thanks for answering 🙏

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what you changed. I've not seen that here. There are some pitfalls with ELRS - making sure the radio module and Rx are on the same version etc. so I'd check out the EdgeTX forums in case this is a known thing. Sorry I can't be of more help on this one..

@asgarfpv1846

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 I use version edgetx 2.5.0. For r9m elrs already bind. But for xm+ I still hard to bind

What program succeeds OPENTX Companion. I have a QX7 and firmware changes cannot be downloaded.. For instance I have a 4in 1 module and a transmitter that doesn't recognize it. Need to reconfigure the TX.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Please see this video - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmin0bRvgcq1m5M.html - that should help you find those videos and help you find the answers you need quickly. OpenTX conpanion should still support that radio. Best of luck!

HooRah! Made my decision for me. Been using Radiomaster with no updates for a couple years. Been wanting to switch to Edge buuuuuuut. . . . . Now I won't for a while.

Hi Painless360, is it possible we damage the radio while installing edgetx on process? iam affraid to flash my radio because of that. Thanks

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I would t have thought so but I have never flashed a radio using the wrong file to see... Happy flying

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Highly unlikely to cause any damage (except in that 0.01% instance that it does). If you flash the wrong firmware it is likely to simply crash on boot. If you manage to crash the bootloader, you will always be able to use DFU recovery mode.

@MadeDeni

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 , thanks for the response. have a great day

@MadeDeni

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfeerick , thanks now iam sure will migrate to edgetx

I've been with OpenTx since I started in the hobby about 7 years ago and was a great fan of Frsky. Both organisations have made it so complicated that I will be migrating to Spektrum. I just need it to be simple with just enough finesse to make those minor adjustments. I don't expect to have to load this and that new firmware every few months just to fly a club flyer plane.

@bulufish8208

2 жыл бұрын

Mark u r a thousand percent right. Making it so complicated is detering new flyers to our hobby.

@jamo5136

Жыл бұрын

Interestingly Frsky have gone the Spektrum route with proprietary radios and software with their x18, x20 series Ethos and Access, only much cheaper but just as good if not better.

Lee: In the past year, I have purchased a bunch of hardware (transmitters, mini-warbirds, receivers, trying to acquire fairly state of the art equipment so that I can hit the ground running and not have to wait a month for the next essential piece to set up my transmitters with compatible models, update my firmware, and start having fun. Nearly every configuration video I watch admonishes us to back up our transmitter firmware, model configuration, etc. even before we start to use our transmitters. However it occurs to me that a well organized hard drive directory structure will help avoid a huge tangled web of directories containing configuration and version zip files for each new update. The question is what directory structure makes the most sense to navigate these installation files without getting buried in the minutia? I mean for installation of 1) OpenTx & its companion 2) EdgeTx & its companion 3) Express LRX versions 4) Airplane model definitions, INAV, Pixhawk, Flight Controller boards, Receiver updates, and the like. Could you do a video suggesting a logical table of contents for backing up all this stuff and then being able to find it again when we need it? Thanks for the sanity and logic that your videos provide to the rest of us who are trying to get our heads around all these details! - Jim

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jim, How you organise things in directories is a very personal thing and I've never seen two pilots do it the same way. It needs to make sense to how your mind works and be organised so that you can find things next time you need them. With the modern tools for searching in things like Windows it is a lot easier to find what you need but with so many files having criptyc names I appreciate the need for some form of organisation. You could save the files for each build you do. You could save them by technology; ELRS, INAV, OpenTX. You could save them by date... Here, I store files by technology so I try and keep all of the INAV stuff in one place, the OpenTX stuff in one place etc. I use sub-directories to store configurators and firmware files so I can find them next time. The exception to this is when I am building or shooting a video and then all of the assets for that model live in the folder and then saved when I've finished. I hope that helps.

Coming from a long time non FPV RC pilot open TX was a process to learn I'm an IT professional for 30 plus years. I can see why many hate it younger FPV crowd likes it. Some want to just configure a few settings and fly where this thing has so many bells and whistles. IT's like I remember when put a amp sensor in my EDF jet had it tell me the amps going out I ended landing at 2 1/2 minutes. A friend said why bother with all that just put a timer on your radio goes for 2 1/2 minutes and land.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

OpenTX is a classic example of a project that was developed with no-one watching out for the experience of the end user - lots of twiddly bits and new features added with no thought about making it easier to use and making the 20% of the features that 80% of the pilots use all the time easy to access and change. EdgeTX is working on this do I've got my fingers crossed but it won't be something we see anytime soon..

I haven't heard the term share ware in a long time. For me, it has a slightly different meaning. I notice your radio is perfectly shiny. How? I'm jealous.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

This is my spare radio, specifically for testing EdgeTX

Any point in upgrading an X9d to edge tx?

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

For me, I'd only do it for ExpressLRS... Happy flying

I tried switching to Edge a few weeks ago, and lost models. Do you have a video on how to recover the models?

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

No, that is why a full backup of the radio is needed before the conversion. Best of luck to

@jerryzito6840

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 Thank you. I watched Mr. Bardwells video twice on loading EdgeTX. When he was complete, his models were in tact. When I finished all 7 of my models were gone. My card is backed up thank goodness. His method was to select all files and folders on the SD card, and deselect the radio and model folders. The models should have loaded with the EdgeTX, but did not. Not sure what to do except return to OpenTX.

@flipfpv4539

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerryzito6840 this happened to me so I just recopied the models folder from my back up directly on to the edgeTX sdcard and the came back Good luck 😊👍

I'd like to switch to Edge, but it doesn't support X10-ismr access

Yes tried it it’s ok, but reverted back to other!

bug or not yappu not working with Edgetx ( at least for me )

@ruthikanvekar4565

2 жыл бұрын

Inav working? , I reverted back to otx. Till now I haven't flashedETX waiting for atleast inav lua support on it

Thanks for raising this topic. I describe OpenTX as “by engineers, for engineers” and have left my Radiomaster in the case for months simply because I’m in this hobby to fly, not to spend hours upon hours figuring out how to configure a model. If and when Edge or Open becomes easy to use I’ll ditch Spektrum in a heartbeat, but until then they’re more of a problem than a solution.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I hope that the development team focus more on things like improving usability and interface than adding more gadgets and widgets that makes it even harder for new pilots like you.. Here's hoping!

@painless360 would you now recommend switching to edge exclusively?

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what features of OpenTX you use. I'm not planning to switch to it as a primary radio O/S anytime soon - still too many things missing (but on the way!) for a pilot like me who uses a lot more of the OpenTX system than most..

@sleepingpanda8927

2 жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 I haven't bound my first model to my TX16s yet but I'm planning to setup my OMP M2 heli on it and also use it for FPV in the future.

I just couldn't get my head around OpenTX, which is why I changed my FrSky gear for Spektrum. If this had come out earlier, maybe I would have had to spend mega bucks on a completely new RC system for my flying hobby. I still have an Frsky Q7S in my box, as no one wanted to buy it, together with 2 stabised receivers, so may just give this a go when it gets nearer completion. Thanks for the info Lee. Best wishes, Dave W 👍

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

Hi David, spending as much time as I do, helping others with OpenTX I possibly have a very unique view of the system. Usability and the complexity of OpenTX has been an issue for as long as OpenTX has been about so I am excited to see what EdgeTX do to lower the bar for entry and make the system (and the radios that run it) easier to use for pilots like you. It would be great for the hobby. I hope that OpenTX gets a shot in the arm to so that the remaining developer/developers get some love too..

Think, the developer did until now a really great job. With the EDGE bootloader you can change in between OTX and EDGE in just a minute. OTX sd card out and EDGE sd card in. Easy like that ....

Promises, promises. It is very easy to port ideas for a new Operating System from all the innovations of previous systems but behind these community developments there is usually one person with all the ideas in his/her head. Once they get all the basics into the system they start to run out of steam and energy and development slows to a standstill. Most of the open community systems owe their existence to one person - Mike bland. Thankfully Mike has had the foresight to attack the ACCST compatibility problem from another angle and has now developed a universal ACCST firmware that addresses all the glitches and compatibility issues as well as incorporating the FCC and EU-LBT requirements into one Firmware that ensures compatibility of existing Frsky gear across ACCST versions 1 & 2 - without the need to upgrade existing TX and module FW.

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

That is one of the wonderful things about the open-source community and development. Projects are copied (or forked) all the time as engineers take that existing code and explore new ideas on top of it. MultiWII became Baseflight. Baseflight became Cleanflight. Cleanflight became Betaflight, then became INAV. So much of what we use in the modern 'open' hobby relies on the labours of these developers and popular opinion and pilots choosing and using the project dictate which ones survive and which projects are left to wither on the vine. Successful projects that solve a problem and get lots of support like Ardupilot, Betaflight, ,INAV, MPM, EdgeTX, ExpressLRS, Yappu, BLHeli (and others) are now core parts of how many pilots fly. Imagine if we had to pay for this technology. Many wouldn't be able to afford the hobby... Fab times!

this stuff is insane! super complicated i just want to fly a plane and bind other models to radio..i have a flysky with 15 rc vehicles on it setup was a breeze..i dont know why this has to be soo complicated

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

EdgeTX is very powerful but most pilots only need about 5% of the features to setup their model... Best of luck

@cannabisoutlawz

Жыл бұрын

@@Painless360 they should make a basic version for noobs but i know its open source so thats probably why

@Painless360

Жыл бұрын

The EdgeTX team is aware of this need... Happy flying

Don't see the advantage if you have no touchscreen and only fly with flight controler on your copter/plane

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

Touchscreen is one big factor at the moment. But there is that underlying improvents to stick latency (I e. The gimbals are polled as fast as your radio link sends packets - e.g. 500hz with ELRS) and if you want to use with a flight sim there is improved speed/latency there also. If those don't matter to you then probably no reason to switch yet.

"Smartphone OS" should be simple to learn/use. At least for me.

Waiting for trappy to get the edgeTX devs to add the Mambo and the Tango2 Frustrating wait as I’m using CRSF on my T-16s and ELRS on my Mambo.

@jmillerfpv

2 жыл бұрын

How did you get the elrs to bind. I have updated my receiver with a binding phrase but I cannot get it to work with the module. I plug it in and tell the configurator to update it but I get a red error screen because I don’t think the module is actually connected with the computer. Do you think it’s the cord I’m trying to flash it with. It lights up when I plug it in but I thought maybe it’s only a charging cord and it’s in charge mode

@pfeerick

2 жыл бұрын

No, you're waiting for Trappy to provided a mechanism to install EdgeTX on the Mambo and Tango2 ;) Once *that* is possible, work can start on onboarding Mambo and Tango2.

@ravfpv6201

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfeerick more specific, yes, exactly

@ravfpv6201

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmillerfpv did you download the lua?

What is is?…🤔😃

Software engineers should never design GUIs. We suck at it. The things we think are interesting most users do not. They just want a simple interface that is intuitive and "Just Works". Apple and others pay the UI people a lot of money to develop a seamless, powerful UI. Not an easy task.

@Painless360

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. From what I understand the chap that was the lead GUI guy left OpenTX and now works for FrSky so maybe that is why so little changed.

@stevep4131

2 жыл бұрын

I've a software engineering background myself. I love OpenTx. Its logical and elegant and it does the job. It might have a few bugs left in it but I've not encountered them lately. I enjoy using it. But lets go with a new fork if it makes it prettier and simpler. Touch screens and colour displays might reduce battery life and make it harder to see on sunny days - but looks are very important. And we all love the fun of finding new bugs.

I think the main problem with both OpenTX and EdgeTX is that they are made by developers who like to develop new and completely (almost) useless functions complicating an already unnecessarily complicated system even further. 95% of OpenTX's functions, options are unused, unwanted and not needed by 95% of users. I think this is why Spektrum products are so popular because of the ease of the interfaces, and why they can charge the exorbitant prices for a slightly better than average product. And the Frsky debacle hasn't helped.......

No, I don't need it. OpenTX is fine for 90% of those who fly.