Should Edge have been the champion in 2004? Let us know in the comments below!

@d.a.5161

8 ай бұрын

He deserved a long time ago before 2006

@theamericangangster9367

8 ай бұрын

I think it worked out great, I think he won it at the perfect time, his character in 05-06 him becoming obsessed with the title and coming so close so many times and basically going crazy trying to win it.

@TheThird1977

8 ай бұрын

I believe he had earned it by that point, but in hindsight it would have likely robbed us of the better scenario with the MitB cash-in(s), etc.

@clivet3252

8 ай бұрын

I don't think he should have had the belt at all.

@Bale4Bond

8 ай бұрын

No.

Honestly the Taboo Tuesday and Cyber Sunday concepts were ahead of their time and would work so well in todays Social Media ruled world. Also im happy Edge didnt win they were still doing his slow burn heel turn which was brilliant

@mechtech6195

8 ай бұрын

i second this with social media presence probably at an all time high it works and talent can run their campaigns on their social pages to get viewers involved and promote the ppv putting shine on people who haven’t gotten the opportunity to be in the title scene and the fun part is the unpredictability this concept will definitely draw revenue

@1KQ_

8 ай бұрын

Wwe would go under if the smarks on Twitter were left to book the product lmao. Absolutely abhorrent

@mcq2879

8 ай бұрын

@@1KQ_ Fan submitted matches cannot possibly be worse than ALLLLL the garbage WWE has produced in their history. At this point just try something different.

@Micfri300

8 ай бұрын

​@@mcq2879it would lead to current day AEW.

@jeremymorales8396

8 ай бұрын

It was gimmick’d tho. They lied to the fans 😂

I just adore the fact that Edge's heel turn was legit just him being hungry for the world title and along the way is willing to just throw away all morals to get his chance. As much as I love Edge on Smack-Down. I do feel that Edge on Raw was just some of his peak work.

@Rschr101

8 ай бұрын

He didn't seem to have a lot of morals in reality either so it made sense😂

@MixManiac120

8 ай бұрын

Art imitating life.

@donelsw6676

8 ай бұрын

06 Edge is one of the most entertaining superstars of all time and probably a top 5 year for a wrestler

@mrmoviemanic1

8 ай бұрын

@@donelsw6676 2006 is one of my all-time favorite years. Cena vs Edge, Rey's Road to Wrestlemania and feud with Charvo, DX vs Mcmhaons, Trish and Lita's rivalry, Rated RKO forming, Kurt Angle being a Wrestling Machine, RVD's big moment, King Booker, and Undertaker vs Mr. Kennedy.

I looked up the results so and Edge was slightly off HBK did not get 51% the poll results were Shawn Michaels got 38.72% of the votes Edge got 33.42% of the votes Chris Benoit got 27.86% of the votes If any of you were curious

@shikhsyafiq2841

8 ай бұрын

But what if we add Kurt Angle to the mix?

@elliotelectricity

8 ай бұрын

@@shikhsyafiq2841 then your chances of winning drastically go DOWN!

@tylergerald

8 ай бұрын

I honestly did a bit of a "math ain't mathing" head tilt when Edge said HBK got 51% of the votes and he was only a couple points behind. I'm instantly thinking "sooo Benoit got like, 2% of the votes?" lol thanks for fact-checking

@SychoSam

8 ай бұрын

There is still a chance that Chris snapped because almost no one voted for him 😅

@theonetheonlyjoey

8 ай бұрын

@@shikhsyafiq2841 Kurt Angle KNOWS he can't beat me, and he's not even gonna try

Some people seem confused as to the logic as to why they were going to put the title on Edge if he won the vote but not Shawn. Here's the logic I see in it. Shawn no longer needed title runs at that point in his career. So if Shawn were to win the vote (which he did), it would make more sense just to keep the title on Triple H so they could start that slow build of Evolution's breakup with Triple H vs Batista (which again, they did). But if Edge were to win the vote, putting the title on him would at least make some semblance of sense because at that point, Edge was right on the cusp of breaking into the main event title scene anyway. However looking back at the situation in hindsight, I think things worked out perfectly the way they did. I'm glad Edge didn't win that vote and ultimately, the title. The slow build to Triple H vs Batista was a phenomenal angle which gave Batista a fantastic push to becoming the main eventer he did. And in Edge's case, delaying his first world title run a little longer which ended up being his MITB cash-in is what gave birth to his Ultimate Opportunist gimmick so it worked perfectly in his favor as well.

@jordanlarsh3151

8 ай бұрын

Although you are right in your logic, the answer to this particular topic is a bit easier than that. Shawn had torn the meniscus in his knee before this match at Taboo Tuesday. He fought through the match, and it ended up being his last match of the year. He didn’t come back until January of 2005.

@DarkAssassinUnghh

8 ай бұрын

​@@jordanlarsh3151the answer is even easier than that. Shawn didn't want to be world heavyweight champion again.

@jordanlarsh3151

8 ай бұрын

@@DarkAssassinUnghh I never said that wasn’t true, you’re right, but the events I listed still happened.

@DarkAssassinUnghh

8 ай бұрын

@@jordanlarsh3151 I never said what you said didn't happen

@jordanlarsh3151

8 ай бұрын

@@DarkAssassinUnghh This is fun, my turn lol. I never said that you said that I didn’t say lol.

I loved that Edge character pre world title. He was on point with that anger and obsession. That period gets very overlooked.

I’m really glad Edge didn’t win that vote because it lead to his awesome feud with Shawn at the beginning of 05. Their bloody Street Fight on RAW of that year is one of my favorites to go back and watch.

@sharker102s

8 ай бұрын

i love your comment and agree with you and def one of my fav too

Edge had a 33 and 1/3 chance of winning, but Shawn had a 66 and 2/3s chance because Chris Benoit knows nobody will vote for him. So take his 33 and 1/3 chance, minus the 25% chance, and Edge had an 8 and 1/3 chance of winning.

@nicolasgian8822

7 ай бұрын

I like your math skills

@moondoghoward

7 ай бұрын

Hi Scotty 😊

@robertocioffi2523

Ай бұрын

With Benoit in the mix, Edge's chances drastic went down.

HBK - 39% Edge - 33% Benoit - 28%

@paynexkillerreviews

14 күн бұрын

Benoit never existed, so you hae to split 14% each ways.

the triple threat match at Summerslam in Toronto that he is talking about was in 2004. I dont hear many people talk about it now but that show was well known back then because all of the faces got booed and all the heels got cheered. I think JBL was the only heel who didnt get cheered but at that time a lot of people absolutely hated him because he got a push out of nowhere. also a fan climbed on JBLs limo and fell through the fake roof which WWEs crew had to quickly fix because Taker chokeslammed JBL through that roof. you wont find the footage of it but there was a photo and people who were at the show confirmed it.

Hhh, edge, & orton probably were the best heels that catapulted their careers with their title runs. That made them 💯

I think Edge forgot the third guy in the voting lol, HBK got 38.72%, Benoit got 27.86%, and Edge actually got 33.42% of the fan votes. Google is a blessing haha

@ForMyself-in7ee

8 ай бұрын

Who is Benoit?

So Edge is suggesting Shawn Michaels got 51%, he himself got 49%, and Benoit got 0%? I think he might be a little off on those numbers...

@Bale4Bond

8 ай бұрын

Revisionist history at it's finest. Probably took lessions from fellow con-man Jericho.

@spacequack5470

8 ай бұрын

​@@Bale4BondSaid nobody with functioning brain cells

@Lostandtobefound

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

@MrPerfect2000Z

8 ай бұрын

He's not far off in his point though. He got more votes than Benoit and he was only off by something like 4% from beating out Shawn

@newageassholes

3 ай бұрын

No wonder benoit went nuts.

I was there for that Taboo Tuesday in 2005 in San Diego California US were Shawn Michaels was picked over Kane and Big Show. Definitely in character of Edge saying "this crowd doesn't deserve me to be involved in a match". My crowd and I bood him hard. I didn't mind it at all. Was a awesome show live because of the unpredictability and Edge doing a heel thing like that.

@therealjcon

8 ай бұрын

Wrong year

@naclynerickii

8 ай бұрын

@@therealjcon Even still I liked how he was towards the crowd when he was there. People wondered why he chose not to compete even for 2005.

@MrPerfect2000Z

8 ай бұрын

@@naclynerickii He was injured by the time Taboo Tuesday 2005 rolled around. So originally they put him in a tag match because they thought it could lessen the load for him but then they realised it was a lot more severe so they just took him out altogether. So while they waited for the injury to heal, they kept him on the show, gave him a talk show and it's there he started calling himself the Rated R Superstar

@naclynerickii

8 ай бұрын

@@MrPerfect2000Z Ah. Well they didn't mention that live (also Christian quitting. They explain this on the DVD) so I had no idea live. The 2004 after Edge explained that made sense but wondered about 2005. If he was hurt for it too I wouldn't be surprised. I just remembered how some people complained about him bailing the PPV after the event took place. I had no issue. Seemed like my crowd was more concerned on Austin bailing yet again.

I feel Edge wasn't quite ready for the main event until mid-2005. He hadn't fully developed his Rated-R Superstar character (thanks to the Matt and Lita scandal) until that point.

@Rschr101

8 ай бұрын

Hide your wives😂

@Captain_Insano_nomercy

8 ай бұрын

The irony is that Christian was way more over than Edge at this time with his Captain Charisma gimmick

@jackhughes7637

8 ай бұрын

​@@Captain_Insano_nomercyChristian had a ceiling. The guy just doesn't look like a big time star and was not doing anything interesting at the time.

@donelsw6676

8 ай бұрын

​@jackhughes7637 because vince hates him. Christian could pf easily been as big as edge

@CCEkeke

8 ай бұрын

@@jackhughes7637 Disagreed. Christian could have been a bigger star in the WWE had Vince backed him. But Vince never saw Christian as a main eventer, despite him having the charisma (see his short-lived Cena feud) and the in-ring talent.

He wasn't ready at the time. When he turned heel no one cared anyway and for sure a title reign at that time on RAW would have been a disaster. It's when the Matt/Lita stuff happened (which was around the time that the Reign of Terror ended and Cena got drafted) that he truly became ready for the main event.

That doesn't seem to make much sense. Since HBK wasn't going to win the title against HHH they could have just fixed the voting in favour of Edge anyway IF they actually wanted to put the title on him. It took Edge almost 1.5 years to finally win the belt from Cena.

@realrobrose

8 ай бұрын

They never fixed their votes

@quarantinebored1427

8 ай бұрын

And it was perfect. Edge winning the title from cena by cashing in the money in the bank was genius.

@walterforgern2211

8 ай бұрын

@@quarantinebored1427 Agreed

@erikthered9670

8 ай бұрын

It makes sense, they wanted to do a legitimate vote, and had a plan for what would happen if each guy won. They thought Shawn and Chris would put on a great match that fans wanted to see, and they thought the same about Edge, but didn't want him to lose a big match like that (or something)

@walterforgern2211

8 ай бұрын

@@erikthered9670 That wasn't even the point. Edge claimed he would have won the world title had people voted for him!

lmfao what was the purpose of him saying scott steiner still on raw 😂😂 1:23

The rated R superstar was easily my favorite gimmick back then.

I was so angry Edge didn’t get voted that night! I remember telling all my friends to vote for Edge. It’s probably a rare time I hated HBK and was actually happy Edge costed him the match.

I wonder if that would have been a calculated lie from management to motivate Edge even more. Sounds crazy but i wouldnt have ruled that out

This whole story is legendary and what makes Edge great

Shawn put on a great match with a busted knee that night

I witnessed everything Edge was saying live every week baby!! It was beautiful to unfold that Edge character as a Heel.

The cash in at New Year’s Revolution was the perfect timing.

Scott Steiner was gone from the company by the time Edge returned to RAW in 2004.

If it was anyone else but HBK then Edge woulda won the vote…also ya know how great he must felt tho after all to see the fans only had him a couple of % points below HBK! That would be a win for me right there

I am surprised wwe hasn't brought Cyber Sunday back

I was there for the 1st Taboo Tuesday, my dad took me an my brother and I remember Shawn And HHH in the steel cage. Idk he was legitimately hurt though he put on a good match.

@NickWuebker

8 ай бұрын

Shawn and Triple H didn’t wrestle in a cage that night. That was Ric Flair and Randy Orton.

Inside the ropes should’ve gave edge a bonus for this appearance, he’s giving more than his time that’s dedication right there

Honestly I was one of the few that even voted for Edge back then. I felt he deserved that opportunity.

I’m glad he won the championship during the rated r phase rather than earlier

Now he’s an 11x World Champion

I was the 1K like. I know it's not much but it meant something to me

Edge had a great journey to the Championship

So there's a 3 man vote with Sean Michaels, Edge, and Chris Benoit.... right? Michaels gets 51% of the vote, Edge gets 49%, and..... idk about my math here but it seems like prime Benoit got approximately, just north of, 0% lol. Which is a little odd because i believe Benoit goes on the win the WWE Title after this event and you would think that anyone who gets 0% in a popularity vote will never have a belt from Vince McMahon lol. (I don't actually believe Benoit got 0% of the vote lol. It may be true but more likely i think it's just a small error in the minute details of the story.)

Here's what I don't get, why was the title going to change depending on who won the vote? I would have liked some explanation there.

@THEBIGJOBE

8 ай бұрын

HBK was injured and also, at that point iirc (don't quote me on this) he didnt want to be world champion anymore as he felt he didnt need it and also didnt want the added responsibilities/traveling/etc.

@thomasmuller1425

8 ай бұрын

@@THEBIGJOBE Then they could've had Benoit win the title for a 2nd time & held until New Year's Revolution '05 where he loses to Triple H in the Elimination Chamber Match. Then everything goes back to the way they were. Btw, I was gonna mention Randy Orton considering that he was feuding with Evolution at the time but I forgot he was wrestling Ric Flair in the main event.

I remember being only 14-15 at that time and I freaking VOTED Edge despite of his heel persona, knowing that Benoit and Michaels already had World Titles beating HHH and Edge deserves a chance. I'm sure many talented fans would have voted Edge, but WWE might have manipulated the votes in order to make the storyline their way. Edge should have been the champ.

2:07 if it’s any consolation that crowd booed all of the faces that night.

That was the last time it felt like belts mattered

Must have been super frustrating

Heyman really knows how to make a guy like edge show up to work thinking he’s sting lmfao

I voted for him, and I agreed he was screwed. I supported him through that whole storyline LMAO

It worked out for him in the long run, he wasnt ready at this point, hadnt become a true main eventer yet imo.

If Edge says that the votes for Taboo Tuesday were legitimate, then that shows that the same fans who complain about seeing the same matches, they're the same fans that want the same matches. HBK and Benoit had already already faced HHH so many times, but Edge had never faced HHH in a one on one match. That would've been something fresh, but, fans again voting to see the same matches over and over.

@Michael-cz6ob

8 ай бұрын

Yup. Shawn Michaels and HHH just feuded weekly from 2002-2004 at this point. Amazing how people didn't see through it like you would today

@libertarianonwheels1172

8 ай бұрын

Edge actually wound up working with HHH at the Great American Bash 2008.

@walterforgern2211

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't take Edge's words here that serious since HBK wasn't going to win the title against HHH. They could have just fixed the voting in favour of Edge anyway IF they actually wanted to put the title on him. It took Edge almost 1.5 years to finally win the belt from Cena.

@jonwolfenden

8 ай бұрын

@@walterforgern2211 HBK was gonna win the title but he blew out his knee the night before on Raw.

@misterwishart

8 ай бұрын

Or "the same fans" had rejected Edge as a babyface, as he says at quite literally at the beginning of the video, and were not particular fussed about seeing him go up against HHH? Ignoring the fact that he had been slowly turning heel since Summerslam anyway... So maybe we should dispel this nonsense idea that "the same fans", or indeed ANY fans, have ever asked for only entirely unique matches, because there are numerous examples of matches in history that had never occurred before that were still vocally rejected by "the same fans." (i.e There's a wide gap between being sick of Cena vs. Orton part 100 vs. No Rematches EVAR!!!)

He’s hair grew back fast

Edge really should have won.

i voted for shawn multiple times my b i was 10

I dont blame edge for not wanting to be on raw during that period in 2004. Was so bland and full of HHH long promos every week with evolution and in my opinion quite uninteresting storylines and matches. Smackdown at this time was still good, not as good as 2002-2003 but still had plenty of talent with Angle, eddie, mysterio ect still on there

@Kalel2.0

8 ай бұрын

Honestly Raw started improving in mid 04 whereas Smackdown was lacking in star power and HHHs Reign of Terror was a lot more tolerable than his unwatchable chore of a 2003

@walterforgern2211

8 ай бұрын

Raw pretty much made Edge a real superstar and would have elveated Eddie even more. It also made Benoit a big deal. Smackdown had Angle, Taker and Brock before he left but the rest of the roster were just good workers with little stardom. JBL was the only guy who made a name out of himself that time around.

@Courageous91

8 ай бұрын

​@@walterforgern2211- John Cena?

@Micfri300

8 ай бұрын

2004 was a catalyst for 2005 and batista turning on hunter.

@walterforgern2211

8 ай бұрын

@@Courageous91 Yeah Cena probably too but he became really big once he left for Raw.

I always wondered if the voting was legit

Let me get this right, shawn got 51% of votes and you lost by 2% so edge got 49% of voes and benoit got 0???????0 votes for benoit?

It never stuck well with me that Cena & Orton won world titles before Edge l.

@travienantley674

8 ай бұрын

I agree,don't get wrong i like orton and cena but edge was already a veteran and around that time i felt like he did deserve that shot,and plus before he got injured he was basically had a great babyface run on smackdown

@ForMyself-in7ee

8 ай бұрын

At least Edge had more world title reigns than them by the time he retired.

I voted for Edge.

Ah, yes, scott steiner, the guy who was in the lower mid card by this time, kenny totally would have been an issue to edge. A very odd remark from you, kenny

I’m a simple man, I see an Edge interview I drop everything and listen

@Rschr101

8 ай бұрын

Doesn't get more simple than that😅

The less Edge title reigns we had the better!

Edge needs to do some steiner math, his percentages are so off.

I voted for edge. I wanted to see a new world champion.

That was a cute little lie he told at the beginning. Only real fans will remember we booed him because he stole Matt Hardy’s girlfriend Lita in real life and he was hated while being a baby face. So they had to change his character. It definitely wasn’t bc he got booed randomly and said “okay let’s give them a reason” no you’re a scumbag in real life the reason was there.

The voting was NOT legitimate. Anyone who believes that is a mark. You think Vince is going to let the fans control anything?

A.E.W.

I can understand Vince's logic in this because I watched in all live leading up to that Taboo Tuesday. So whole back in early 04 most of the guys Vince wanted on top were gone namely Brock Lesnar and Goldberg, but he knew by a certain point they would be gone and he saw the reactions Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit were getting which at they time were great. So by Wrestlemania 20's end Lesnar and Goldberg are gone and Eddie and Benoit are on top, but the ratings, merch, abd overall drawing power didn't seem to be there. So Vince started to think where do I go he knew he couldn't go back to Triple H and needed someone else at first he thought Randy Orton who was great in the ring and could get heat, but wasn't ready for the mainevent hence why Randy won Summerslam and by Unforgiven the next month he dropped back Triple H. So Edge hearing if the fans wanted him in the mainevent Vince were would have put the belt on him because Vince knew he needed someone else but who. Ultimately that would to Batista which by the end if the Royal Rumble 05 the crowd clearly was behind him.

The title of the video is a little misleading. Makes you think Edge was politiced out of the title. If the Taboo Tuesday voting was legitimate and he wasn't voted into the match (he would have won), I wouldn't say "robbed" is the right word. It's unfortunate, but not really robbed.

Anybody know what colorway of Jordans edge is wearing?

So Chris Benoit was zero percent?

@camerondalton1495

8 ай бұрын

Not exactly.

@elliotelectricity

8 ай бұрын

I looked up the results so HBK did not get 51% the poll results were Shawn Michaels got 38.72% of the votes Edge got 33.42% Chris Benoit got 27.86%

@camerondalton1495

8 ай бұрын

@@elliotelectricity Thanks!

M8 this old this was 2018/19

Robbed? Nah nah

Not surprised, that little prep talk at gorilla before your match is the goddamn worst. Cause you know shit changes on the fly. I STILL don't like the fact that Triple H cheated Booker T at WrestleMania 19.

I never saw Edge as a main event guy. It just never suited him in the main title.

@ryanjessen9181

8 ай бұрын

Wow bruh wow

@stef9544

4 ай бұрын

11 world titles says otherwise 😎

Thought Scott Steiner was fired in 2003?

@Lostandtobefound

8 ай бұрын

Think 04, was definitely in the 04 Rumble.

@DaKoolDude

8 ай бұрын

Buried by HHH 😂

Never liked Edge can see why he didn't get the vote.

This guy has been finished for years and he’s an absolute snake IRL .

Boy he lost some memorys. He didnt wrestle Kurt at No Mercy

@Iron-Black-Sabbath-Maiden

8 ай бұрын

Edge and Rey faced Angle and Benoit at No mercy 2002 in a great tag team match

I feel like Edge was super over in the attitude era. I thought he'd be the next superstar to get a super push after Jericho but I guess not.

No he even blamed Chris Jericho for have replaced him as tag team champions, he's the reason why he became World champion for the 1st time as WWE champion and World Heavyweight champion. He got 😡 at him for his own injury

Even if edge won the title here he would have dropped it soon after as wwe wanted the Batista vs triple h feud at wrestlemania

not to call Edge a liar but im sorry no way HHH would have dropped the tittle to him back then, he would have made use of his backstage power to not let that happen. Even back then it was obvious HBK wss going to win the vote.

WWE is worse than Nickelodian

It turned out better that he lost the vote. If he had won the World Title at that time, then he probably wouldn't have won Money in the Bank six months later, and had that great cash in which made him the Ultimate Opportunist.

Canadians always prefer Jericho 😅

What's funny is he actually believed that he was gonna win the world title that night 😂😂😂 Triple H was not jobbing to anyone much less another heel back then

Eade was not world Champ material Tag Team guy never been a fan a that spear don't get me started

Never saw edge as a main eventer. Good worker but was missing something

Robbed?😂 This glorified tag wrestler shouldn't have won anything more than the Intercontinental belt. Making him champion was an absolute disgrace.

@ryanjessen9181

8 ай бұрын

Your Trippin on that Mayne edge is a good wrestler why shouldn't he been a world champion like tf

bug eyes made me laugh with the sons of bitches lol