Echoplex Tape Delay vs. Echoplex Pedal | Can You Hear the Difference?

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this is my little love letter to the Echoplex and to see if we can hear the difference against my favorite Echoplex emulation: the MXR Echoplex guitar pedal.
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Eric Hoegemeyer:
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Thanks to NAMM for the amazing footage of Mike Battle:
www.namm.org/library/oral-his...
00:00 The Intro
00:56 The History
03:10 The Guts
05:09 The Sounds
10:05 The Experiment
13:05 The Thoughts
15:19 The Outro Performance
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  • @Kokopellli
    @Kokopellli11 ай бұрын

    The comparison starts at 12:26

  • @mattwardynski7429
    @mattwardynski74292 жыл бұрын

    The echos from ye ol' Echoplex definitely have a unique timbre that I absolutely love, super cool to see your new space too, looking forward to the studio update/tour!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching Matt! You can't easily replicate the wonkiness of an old machine and moving tape

  • @neilgrant8652
    @neilgrant86522 жыл бұрын

    "Look at these guts!" 🤣🤣🤣 this has to be a feature on every vid! Absolutely love this channel!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    ahhh i gotta get the echoplex repaired! it’ll be back in service soon 🙏

  • @huntergalloway3944
    @huntergalloway39442 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the new space, man! I have a little Univox tape delay, the Echo Chamber or EC-80A. It isn’t multi head, but it sure is fun and has a totally unique sound. Enjoy the new space and have fun creating!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks again Hunter! i’ll have to look up that Univox!

  • @samfowles4276
    @samfowles42762 жыл бұрын

    Late to this party here but someone mentioned the Carbon Copy. That is a great pedal for the money! The “mod” button is absolutely dreamy. I was impressed with the Echoplex pedal! That is so rad for you that your studio co-leaser owns an Echoplex! For someone not in that situation it’s really great knowing the pedal produces a quality sound. Thanks for the comparison!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    love the carbon copy! My studio partner is incredible, and I don't say that lightly. thanks for listening and watching Sam! www.erichoegemeyer.com/

  • @danthegeetarman
    @danthegeetarman4 ай бұрын

    Very cool comparison. I love blind ABs. A lot of times they’re good for my wallet since sometimes I prefer the cheaper alternatives to the real thing 😁

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    4 ай бұрын

    absolutely!

  • @JoshuaPickenpaugh
    @JoshuaPickenpaugh2 жыл бұрын

    Love Echoplexes. Congrats on the new studio, looks cool!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks Josh! if I panned the camera you'd see our "makeshift" temporary sound treatment and it would look less cool hahaha

  • @elijahderinger7080
    @elijahderinger70802 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the new space! Your quality rises every vid, and you're infinitely more helpful than the likes of Rick Beato. Happy and proud to be here before you get huge.

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    i really appreciate that! Always trying to improve and ultimately it's because i genuinely enjoy helping the community if I can

  • @aftertheendtimes
    @aftertheendtimes Жыл бұрын

    Just wanna say that i really appreciate your work and channel, and like "Be good to eachother" in the end,..Thanks dear Made On Tape,..Love cheers🙏💚 BTW happy new 2023 to ya´ 😀

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    Жыл бұрын

    that’s very kind thank you. happy new year and have fun out there!

  • @Halliday7895
    @Halliday78952 жыл бұрын

    i was confused in the second comparison haha very good pedal sound for sure...but i was able to identify "the reel" deal tape echo 2 out of 3 , excellent content keep them coming! congrats on the new space!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks Andrew! excited to be able to work more 🤘

  • @jeffgrey1566
    @jeffgrey156621 күн бұрын

    The original has a lot less fast decay. I can spot the difference.

  • @BogoEN
    @BogoEN2 жыл бұрын

    You made it! Very excited.

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching all these videos!

  • @EastwardFuture1
    @EastwardFuture12 жыл бұрын

    Sweet! Never seen one of these opened up before. I have a sony tc560 reel to reel that i wanted to repair but the parts needed are too expensive. after seeing this, i might retrofit the tape heads & solid state components into an echoplex inspired design. Love your videos, great stuff!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    yo, if you do! You gotta make a video or at least send pictures!

  • @TheGarageRecordingSC
    @TheGarageRecordingSC2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool video, and the guitar pedal is really similar in the first two examples. They were definitely different in the crazy affect part. But both sound wonderful. Reminds me of a lot of the sounds on 311 records. Congrats on the new studio, looks great, best of luck!!! 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for watching Mike! another commenter suggested high pass filtering and using a distressor (plugin could work) to make the pedal sound even MORE like the original, which I think is a very good option for most people...more accessible

  • @TheGarageRecordingSC

    @TheGarageRecordingSC

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MadeOnTape absolutely!! It wouldn’t take much effort in the DAW, to make them almost identical.

  • @VanXHydrA
    @VanXHydrA5 ай бұрын

    hey man I really enjoyed watching this video. You are a very cool person and I like your spirit and enthusiasm. Stay how you are my friend and kick ass and rock out! love that original Echoplex... its tone is just... you can tell its real tape. its awesome! thanks for making this vide and good lucky wit the awesome new studio~!

  • @esahm373
    @esahm3735 ай бұрын

    There is a great free, VERY authentic sounding plugin for that tape delay sound: GSI VariSpeed

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    5 ай бұрын

    i’ll have to check it out! thanks for sharing 🙏🏻

  • @MarcoAzevedo
    @MarcoAzevedo Жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah man, the tape degradation is music in my ears, incredible unit!!! Very cool!! Greetings from Brasil

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks for listening! greetings from New York City! 🗽

  • @giulioluzzardi7632
    @giulioluzzardi76326 ай бұрын

    You have a super cool analogue studio now make lots of wicked music. Tape is where it's at. 4 Track and a mixer and then master on a CD for up-load etc. Great channel!!

  • @MadeOnTape
    @MadeOnTape2 жыл бұрын

    what is tape delay? 🤔 --> kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKt63LWQd7GsY9Y.html

  • @Wilmer778
    @Wilmer778Ай бұрын

    The pedal's always at a slower timing, so I knew which one's which after I heard the first example. :P

  • @chinmeysway
    @chinmeysway Жыл бұрын

    the harmonic distortion type effect on high feedback on the og is great!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    Жыл бұрын

    i know right? thanks for listening!

  • @R3TR0R4V3
    @R3TR0R4V32 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome you got a real one! It was easy to tell the difference between the two. If I could ever get a killer deal on one, I'd be tempted to grab it, but I'd probably go with the Catalinbread - Belle Epoch, pedal wise. 😎

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    ohh i had to look that one up. Looks awesome!

  • @R3TR0R4V3

    @R3TR0R4V3

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's a _bunch_ of Echoplex pedals out there.. I really nerded out a while back, trying to find one that seemed the most "faithful" without actually being a 1:1 clone using tape and that one was always one of my favorites. Never did get one though, but hopefully someday I will. 😅 For the time being, I have the Tc electronics Alter Ego, which does a bunch of vintage delays. It would still be fun to try tape though, so I'll give it a go with a R2R soon. Fun stuff! 🙂

  • @TheWayIsPeace
    @TheWayIsPeace7 ай бұрын

    The pedal is very cool for sure, but I was pretty surprised by how much more character the delays had on the original unit. The pedal seems to emphasize a lot more low mids and not as much treble, and the original is the opposite. Also, each repetition on the original offers slight modulation from the others, whereas the pedal repetitions are more uniform. I use the Universal Audio Echoplex plug-in and it does an incredible job emulating the real thing. UA does an amazing job in general when it comes to reproducing analog/tape sound! Anyways, I I subscribed because I enjoyed the rundown and good vibes 😄✌️

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    7 ай бұрын

    i love UA in general and agree they do an AMAZING job! I totally agree with your assessment: the original has more character… unfortunately ours fell into state that needs repair but will fix asap 😭

  • @jonnihard1090
    @jonnihard1090 Жыл бұрын

    If it wasnt for the white noise i probably wouldnt be able to tell them apart

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    Жыл бұрын

    definitely love the pedal! 🎛️💚

  • @TheBoboMaker
    @TheBoboMaker2 ай бұрын

    I use the Boss RE-20. I'll never get my hands on a real Space Echo. It's my alway on pedal. I'd like to have the Echoplex pedals.

  • @collinstanley5246
    @collinstanley52462 жыл бұрын

    You should get more sound dampening in that room. There's SOO much ECHO baha Love the Echoplex!!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah it sounds like a baseball stadium hahaha 😂

  • @nym053
    @nym0532 жыл бұрын

    That white noise in the A/B gave it away haha. And for that I actually prefer the pedal. I don't mind a bit of noise as long as it sits between the repeats 😅 But I'm guessing that the preamp pedal is important to get that same full sound as the real thing. Does sound at least as full in this. When doing your vid on the Volante, could you maybe do a comparison test with the Echoplex pedal and preamp pedal. Using Volantes Rec Level to sort of match a similar full sound. I had an El Capistan before the Volante, and it sounded fuller. On first try I was like "this is how I'd expect a real great tape delay to sound". Mind that I've tried T-Rex Replicaror Jr. D'luxe and a 3 head home recording reel to reel, and those 2 didn't sound how I'd expect a real and great sounding tape delay to sound 😅 The Volante somehow seems a little flat sounding to me. But I already knew this before switching. I wanted those extra features. But owning it now I feel like it lacks vibe somehow. Like it's a little to polished and plugin sounding. Still sounds great though. Funny thing, I just A/B'ed between a Bucket Brigade plugin and a Deluxe Memory Boy and VD400. The plugin had better sounding repeats. But it does sound like a great hardware one. That's why I A/B'ed.

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    that’s a great suggestion, thank you! tape delay is the most fun to me. i’ve never tried one of those T-Rex Replicators

  • @matkogrgas
    @matkogrgas7 ай бұрын

    Awesum vid dude! 👌

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    7 ай бұрын

    thank you! i’m hoping to get that machine fixed here in the first half of 2024 😭

  • @matkogrgas

    @matkogrgas

    7 ай бұрын

    @@MadeOnTape 🌟

  • @Noise-Conductor
    @Noise-Conductor Жыл бұрын

    I liked the little dude more. It was more dirty & had a deeper bass that works better for my music. The new one sounded more vintage & flavorful with a unique groove. The original sounded more bright & tight. You'd think it would be the other way around. The Akai Force has a Echoplex Tape Delay emulation in their Odyssey synth plugin know as Echo, but you can't send any other audio to it. It would be nice if they make it Echo standalone then I could use on anything even it's self! I made a really crazy Test-Track with it & really liked the results, so I started doing research on it & ended up here. Now, not only did you school me on the history of this amazing device first made by Mike Battle (Dopest name ever! 😎- Mr. Battle, Jr. Battle, Sir. Battle, General. Battle, President. Battle 🫡) you also reviewed it with a remake that cost less, smaller, more easier to deal with & most importantly it even sounds better! Also you're right across the Harlem/East River out there in BK. You would love the test beat I made using the Force's Echo delay & Odyssey with a sample from a old song. I'll pass this video around the Akai family to put them on to how dope the Echo is & it's history. Peace ✌🏾

  • @mtchampion1831
    @mtchampion18312 жыл бұрын

    I have always liked them both for different reasons. The pedal is muted, dry and precise. Low mids are thick. Sometimes I want that. The Echoplex is vibey with hiss, less forward and a deeper image. I like to high pass the fundamental on the pedal with a distressor after it. It gets closer to the original then. Great for guitar and Rhodes that way. My two cents deposited.

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes! that distressor idea is fantastic thanks for sharing 🙏

  • @VlxWIZzZARDxlV
    @VlxWIZzZARDxlV2 жыл бұрын

    Do a review of the fulltone ss tape echo if you can. And then oscillate it. Maybe compare it to the echoplex. Awesome video btw!

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thank you! i’d love to do more pedal reviews and some more are coming… i will add to list!

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark7619662 жыл бұрын

    I should get some tape loops for my Copicat

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes you should! i have the Wavesfactory plugin emulation but nothing beats the real deal!

  • @dougsmith6648
    @dougsmith6648 Жыл бұрын

    I laugh when people are amazed at seeing a Real Echoplex for the first time. My wife bought me a real one for Christmas in 1978 and it was used and I learned so much about how to use one over the years...including winding my own tapes. I used to tear the strings off of my guitar as a Finale to the night and I used the Echoplex and the slide to manipulate the sound while the band was still playing....People always went crazy with the room spinning effect...

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    Жыл бұрын

    yes!!! I'd love to have been there to see you tear it up! Thanks for sharing and watching🙏

  • @profestevaomachadoathaydes
    @profestevaomachadoathaydes4 ай бұрын

    The pedal couldn't called Echoplex. it's completely different sound If you compare white the original Echoplex

  • @travisraab
    @travisraab2 жыл бұрын

    Whoa whoa whoa 😮 Cool.gear.

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's got a life of its own... and that's an old, battle-worn life 😂

  • @yetanotheruser1989
    @yetanotheruser19892 жыл бұрын

    Analog equipment will always be superior just for the amount of plug-and-play physical manipulation. I enjoy using digital hardware, like drum machines, effects processors, but I will always use analog equipment where I can.

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes! i like to live in both worlds, and for some things, analog actually makes the job easier, IMO. just all depends on what you’re after: thanks for watching!

  • @yetanotheruser1989

    @yetanotheruser1989

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MadeOnTape No problem dude. Only just discovered your channel, but loving your videos so far. And yes, mixing both digital and analog hardware can yield great results. Either unique sounds or artifacts, or the ability to layer and manipulate things in a way you just can't digitally. I find using analog techniques gives me certain parameters to work with as well, which helps me focus when producing music

  • @harrisfrankou2368
    @harrisfrankou23682 жыл бұрын

    Perfect, I've got a MXR Carbon Copy Deluxe which is bucket brigade, but my new amp totally clips my Roland RE201 Space Echo Pedal from the effects loop of my valve amp, as I run my dirty channel like sorta Angus Young meets Van Halen dirty. So my delays and verbs go out and back in my effects loop, my MXR has the headroom, the RE201 just clips with horrid digital clipping!! I can see the Space Echo getting sold for the MXR Space Echo, I love the MXR Bucket Brigade but miss the fat tape saturation of my RE201. This is damn close to the real deal actually, like an other reply said, you can hear a bit more of a "tapey vibe" Think I'll sell my BossRE201 and get this, then I'll have Bucket Brigade and Tape Delays sorted. Thanks awesome Video!I've been staring at my Space Echo for months thinking " sorry buddy but you gotta go" This sealed the deal given I like my Carbon Copy so much And congrats on the New Studio it is awesome and vibey now

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    thank you! I have that Carbon Copy as well. Great pedal! thanks for watching! Bummed to hear about RE201 digital clipping

  • @harrisfrankou2368

    @harrisfrankou2368

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MadeOnTape nah it's all good, it looks at me and says "keep me" but I think I'll sell it for the MXR. Great new studio, well done. Fantastic video, I'm experimenting with routing and aux outs for my studio, I'm trying aux sends as an out to the DAW ( I got an audient ID14 ) So I can use The EQs Faders Pre's Insert Jacks Dual Midi and the second Aux for Hardware compressors and my old Quardaverb for fun. By the way have you seen "Last Lovers Left Alive" great studio in that movie. Hybrid. Anyway, Great video thoroughly enjoyable, inspiring and informative. Thanks

  • @stevenmurphy9225
    @stevenmurphy92258 ай бұрын

    Drop the sunshades...looks naff

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    8 ай бұрын

    i have to edit these videos and i don’t wanna look at myself 😂

  • @CalitranoN
    @CalitranoN Жыл бұрын

    Problem with the pedal is mine hisses I had to stop using it Any ideas?

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    Жыл бұрын

    ooh that’s no good! i’d contact MXR / Jim Dunlop’s customer service

  • @georgedavis-stewart4225
    @georgedavis-stewart42254 ай бұрын

    A nice find, with a great exposition and delay - thank you. Here is John Martyn in the mid-1970s: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4xp06aee5bZmdo.html

  • @GMatt193
    @GMatt1932 жыл бұрын

    Fuck yeah everybody loves e c h o p l e x

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    2 жыл бұрын

    how could you not???

  • @yvesbajulaz
    @yvesbajulaz5 ай бұрын

    pedals don't sound at all like the real thing

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    5 ай бұрын

    absolutely not, but a great flavor nonetheless! Thanks for listening!

  • @johnc3084
    @johnc3084 Жыл бұрын

    This will change music in the next decade, the 80s. I'm so tired of jimmy Carter, I wonder who will be the next president

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    Жыл бұрын

    i come from the future and I have bad news about that next prez lol

  • @antonjodicoste1393
    @antonjodicoste13933 ай бұрын

    Binson Echorec

  • @MadeOnTape

    @MadeOnTape

    3 ай бұрын

    would love to get my hands on one. Have you seen the new one that came out last year?

  • @antonjodicoste1393

    @antonjodicoste1393

    3 ай бұрын

    @@MadeOnTape no i have not.... A link please...

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