Happy to see some Echo on here! Love both of mine for firewood purposes. Sold my 051AV, 660 and 170.

@sundial6919

3 жыл бұрын

They may not be the fastest on the track but mineses finishes the grueling races everytime .

Hello. An outing into the bush helping a friend in need with some "die-rectional" felling. "Die" in the sense that if things go wrong, my name is Mudd and Scott has extra work on his hands. And yes, took full advantage of throwing my NBFF under the bus! It's clear that this video has garnered some off color comments. It's abundantly clear that the "wood" be pundits are completely clueless. It is to bad there isn't an actual fallers IQ test that has to be passed before a viewer is able to comment on the related videos. We get a glimpse of some of the epic fail participants below. Some people's kids.... Thanks for watching.

@shawn1479

3 жыл бұрын

Have my 7310 new in the box waiting for you to do your thing and let us know whats best for these.

@garthmolzahn2247

3 жыл бұрын

How does one get contact information for you I have two saws that need work and I would like to fall with you next winter to pick up some more things

@Firemandan51

3 жыл бұрын

@@garthmolzahn2247 on most of his videos he puts his contact info in the description area for the video. I found it : Danger_cat@rocketmail.com He may or may not be available for saw work.

@shawn1479

3 жыл бұрын

@@garthmolzahn2247 look in the description his email is usually in there.

I just got the echo CS 7310 p 28-in bar! I love it!

I love watching you cut. I always learn something. And, the build videos are great too. Thanks!

I myself have a echo 7310 they are quite stiff when you first get them but they really come to life after a dozen or so tanks of fuel.

@sundial6919

3 жыл бұрын

Yep only 2 tanks in mine and stiff as a fresh milled board but ims in love w it but right now my 620 seems just as powerful and took it about 15 tanks to awaken . Will try a 28" sabre on 7310 then . If it pulls as good w a 28 as good as 620 w 24 i'll be happy

Good shootin’.

@hotsaws101

3 жыл бұрын

August hi. Kind words coming from the likes of you. Thanks for watching.

Can't wait to see what that guy turns into Jack. Old back cut first! Saw dosen't seem too bad stock eh.

Excellent content, and a great Pro Saw! I own the 7310, run a 32 inch bar on it. Also, don't count out the CS 620, it has been great for me as well with a 24 inch bar set up.

thanks for your description. I was like why is this guy fiddle f'in around so much with a tree in the woods but makes allot more sense if you need to get equipment in there next to it. However, now i want that saw... and the wife ain't gunna buy off that i need something more than the ol reliable 680

I like the bright sight line.

One more thing, not to segway from the subject at hand but the 10,000 hour rule comes into play betimes here. He is no novice in the timber or the shop....

That tree hated you. Haha. Just went through a simular situation. 4 foot cedar wouldn't drop for nothing. 4 wedges and a ton of banging finally got it done. Haha!

Jack worked over a smaller Echo for me. Might make an appearance in an up coming video. It’s a little heavy but has proven to be a solid performer.

@andybecker2693

3 жыл бұрын

Which one? I have a 501p that I would like him to port.

@unclecai271

3 жыл бұрын

Andy Becker 620pw

@andybecker2693

3 жыл бұрын

@@unclecai271 I bet that it will just about run with a 70cc saw if not better. The Echo saws get no love but they have great potential since they are an old school non strato design.

@sundial6919

3 жыл бұрын

@@andybecker2693 620 is a hoss a solid hi performer an destined to become a classic

@andybecker2693

3 жыл бұрын

@@sundial6919 No doubt about that. That 7310 is one hell of a saw too!

I love my old cs-680 runs right with my 440 and jonny 2171

@michaeljgraff

Жыл бұрын

i got a 680 in 2016. 27in bar i love that thing and the bar saves my back at 6'3". got the 680 cuz they have made a million of them if ya need parts. My dads old johnsreds 70 is a bit angrier but the oiler shit the bed. Had her tuned for 100LL aviation gas and she ripped.

Your technique and execution is spot on. I have a little feeling this isn’t your first time around felling trees.

Nice hammer work 👍🏼🇨🇦🇺🇸🇲🇽4ever !

This really puts into perspective how good your "zipped" saws really are

@hotsaws101

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, & for watching.

@uplandhunter5794

Жыл бұрын

@@hotsaws101 your welcome.

Excellent camera work! I have a brand new 7310 that I have not even fired up yet! My experience with Echos is that they tend to come set pretty lean right from the factory.

Love the channel. But watching you fell that 2nd tree made me cringe soooo badly I never stump that low. Last time I tried that I didn’t see a piece of wire fence there. Ruined a holzfforma 24” bar and chain as well

Echo for when your poor and your Anna play logger also ba k cuts first are a must

What is the purpose of starting the back cut prior to doing your face cut? I have always done the face cut first and then pretty well don't go to the face side of the tree once I've started my back cut. I know there are always exceptions to the rule of course. It didn't appear to have a real sever back lean, I know camera can be misleading. My only thought was maybe to be able to cut in enough to palm your wedges while utilizing the face of the tree to support it from closing the gap and pinching your saw before you had enough to get the wedges started. Just curious, I'm no professional but I always like to put some knowledge in my belt.

@joeyoung3319

Жыл бұрын

You are ABSOLUTELY correct, HE did it BASS ACKWARDS

@joeyoung3319

Жыл бұрын

He should have taken about 15-20 seconds maybe 25 seconds to cut the face, and then 15-20 seconds to cut the back

@joeyoung3319

Жыл бұрын

That tree should have been down in less than a minute with no fanfare

@hotsaws101

Жыл бұрын

I had responded to another viewer - Gigi Mayer - thinking there was also confusion. Here is a copy - Hello. Thinking the translation might have yielded a glitch in thought... On the tree that leaned the wrong way, the backcut was put in 1st. This allows for the wedge to be put in - which keeps the tree from "sagging" any further the wrong way. Which can be used as the backcut goes in deeper as well. This makes it easier to force into the shot with wedging once the face is put in. Partially as well, the backcut went in 1st. because I had no idea how long the tree was dead - which will directly affect the integrity of the wood at the stump. That's the short story... I surely hope you paid no attention the Joe Young misguided rant - he's completely clueless. Thanks for watching.

@greatlakespowerstrokefx4

Жыл бұрын

Commonly done when the tree is a back leaner or the heartwood is questionable. Getting a wedge back there keeps the tree from setting backward and closing the back cut. Bassackwards it is not

Den Keil zum Schluss machen ist keine gute Idee, aber JEDEM DAS SEINE 👊💀

@hotsaws101

Жыл бұрын

Hallo. Ich denke, die Übersetzung könnte zu einem Denkfehler geführt haben ... Bei dem Baum, der in die falsche Richtung geneigt war, wurde der Rückschnitt an erster Stelle angebracht. Dadurch kann der Keil eingesetzt werden, wodurch verhindert wird, dass der Baum noch weiter in die falsche Richtung „durchhängt“. Dies kann auch verwendet werden, wenn der Backcut tiefer geht. Dies macht es einfacher, den Schlag durch Keilen zu erzwingen, sobald die Schlagfläche eingesetzt ist. Teilweise auch, der Backcut ging an erster Stelle. weil ich keine Ahnung hatte, wie lange der Baum tot war - was sich direkt auf die Unversehrtheit des Holzes am Baumstumpf auswirkte. Das ist die Kurzgeschichte... Danke (glaube ich) fürs Zuschauen.

Demo one last winter, the saw feels great in yours hands but was disappointed with the performance of the saw, and that was only with a 20 inch bar and chain

Another satisfied land owner. You seem to specialize in that, Jack. Bonus: No widow makers came out of those dead trees.

A "Bench Talk" with weights, measures and comparisons would be interesting between the Echo 7310 and Husqvarna 572.

Lots of fallers in Idaho and Montana run the half wrap handlebars in highlead ground. Tree lengthing. You back bar a lot and the stumps aren’t as pretty, but I think they’re faster for tree lengthing.

@hotsaws101

Жыл бұрын

I've been in Montana. A lot of the ground is rolling on the east side of the Bitterroot. On the West side there is a lot more steep ground but it not overly choppy. In the panhandle of Idaho there is some impressively steep areas. Also, not necessarily overly choppy. In essence, the ground tends to be longer than what is seen on the coast. I'd be using a wrap set of bars personally. If nothing more than the ease of working when the drive side is up. Back barring requires a lot of extra upper body strength. I'd hate to be backbarring on a steady diet of 2 & 3 footers. Although, that might be kind of an anomaly strip in the majority of Montana. Also, it might be faster using the up side of the bar for the 1st. three days. But,,, then Thursday comes around.. At least for me. Everyone has their style. Lord knows mine gets it's fair share of thumbs down by the misguided... If using the backside of the chain works for the best for you, then by all means run with it! Keep in mind the chain isn't designed to push either. They don't perform as well when " going against the grain". Thanks for watching.

Morning Jack, those "Hardheads" are handy !

@hotsaws101

3 жыл бұрын

Dave hi. They do lift well and are great for the guys with good depth perception. The lucky ones can nail the head square nearly every time. Enter me, not so much, because don't have. Wearin' "speck-ta-cles" as proof, lol. Thanks for watching.

@bernardosuarezcretton622

Жыл бұрын

How you would rate this chainsaw againts other husky or stilh 70 -72 cc?

Unknown quantity. They seem to be making a resurgence. I noticed the decibels are right down around 50. Can't have that!😁

What's your final thoughts on the 7310

@hotsaws101

3 жыл бұрын

Roger hi. I only have initial thoughts at this point. This saw is still in stock form. I like the thin design quite a bit. Has a good feel in the pistol grip & handle bars. Underpowered imho. Thanks for watching.

Ich liebe meine 7310❤

Hi mate, love it, your skills are outstanding! Cheers Stoney...

Kick ass job

Ya..I'm curious as how they stand vs 620p

@hotsaws101

2 жыл бұрын

Scott hi. They run a little better. Not way better like a 13 +/- cc saw should however. Thanks for watching.

The string trick. I would like to know how and the theory behind using it. I have over 40 years of cutting and we never see, or I have never seen this. I have many chainsaw courses and refresher courses but no string trick. What am I missing? Also just wondering if you time your wedge strikes with the movement of the tree top?

@hotsaws101

3 жыл бұрын

Green- Zone hi. I am using a plumb line to assess the lean, bole weight, limb weight etc. of the tree. In the construction world, carpenters will use a plumb bob to get the initial wall straight, or plumb. Similar concept here. Also, it is impossible to fall super tall timber without a plumb line. Well, if I don't want to beating my brains out all day anyway. I do try and get into a rhythm and "work" the cadence that the top will get into after a few "pounds" on the wedges. This was a little tree, although it did not give up without a fight. It's much more important on big/tall trees. I do the same thing (at least attempt to) while jacking. Thanks for watching.

@alexcarr8503

3 жыл бұрын

@@hotsaws101 thanks, As a general rule I have a fairly good eye to see the lean, knowing which way the tree will go. I was better when I was cutting a hundred trees a day. Now that is here in the east. This would be cutting white birch, Red Maple and black and red spruce. Those are nothing like you have there. Is there a rule of thumb to consider that lean and determine where the tree will hit the ground. Now that I am mostly working around houses I am more interested in presision falling. On hitting the mark everytime. Side leans make me guess. I do think the plumb bob could help with this if I knew what I was doing. To be a certified faller here you only need to be within so many degrees of center. Either 5° or 10. Can't remember. Looking for better presision. Like on the money everytime.

@hotsaws101

3 жыл бұрын

@Alex Carr hi. When you slide up to a tree that is 8 or 10' and that is 250' tall, you had better know where it is leaning "onest" sockin' in the deck for the face lest you get into real trouble. That is where the plumb comes in. I've never seen where a guy can fell big tall Redwood trees without one. I always called it an optical delusion. With the way the bark grows you'd swear it is leaning "out that way". Put the plumb line on it and low & behold it is NOT leaning "out that way", lol. Just a foot or two of back lean on a tree that is 200/250' tall can be a LOT of lifting to get it back the vertical. Usually it is compounded by limb weight. Gravity (hill steepness) plays a role also. I want to know what I'm up against initially. This allows for a "preemptive strike", if necessary, on my part. Thanks for watching.

nice job but camera on a tripod would be nice

Echo's a good saw but I'll stick with my 371/2xp non xtorq's

@catfishandwhitetails

2 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with the x torque? Thank you. Looking for a bigger saw. Right now I have a echo 440 and a huskie 240

@jamiedalluge9472

2 жыл бұрын

@@catfishandwhitetails the xtorq is ok but it's an emission version. Echo 590 or 620 may b a good option for ya

@catfishandwhitetails

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamiedalluge9472 I like the screaming sound of a husqvarna. I know it's not all about sound though! Lol I'm favoring husqvarna. My echo 440 just sounds weak when cutting around my dad's stihl. I'm looking into the 562xp and 572xp at the moment. Thanks for your reply!

@jamiedalluge9472

2 жыл бұрын

@@catfishandwhitetails I have 2 ported 562's and outta the 20 some saws I own their probably my favorite

@catfishandwhitetails

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamiedalluge9472 thanks for your reply! Any experience with the 572xp?

got a old cs 6700 she needs a cylinder and piston

You ain’t no Paul Bunyan lol

Sure unimpressive stock saw,no real top end power band. I figure a bit of porting will wake her up.

You should do another felling video with the 7310 after your done with it. No other good videos on KZread.

@hotsaws101

Жыл бұрын

Still waiting for the owner to get the "magic number" of 15 tanks run through it. You know,,, the amount of fuel all the fan boys say it takes for one of these to transform into a 881 killer... LOL! Thanks for watching.

@zack6892

Жыл бұрын

@hotsaws101 lol. Love my 7310 but it's conservative... after port work it is perfect for me.

I'm a big echo guy

jeez bud port that thing out lol it seams to have ok torq tho just ain't breathing good up there

👍🏻

Clumsy

Making me dizzy moving camera around to fast.

WEDGES ?.... hard metal head vs plastic head, which ones better for which situation ?

@hotsaws101

3 жыл бұрын

Steven hi. The Metal Heads are good when a heavy lift is in order. They are better to use as a hammer when a lite tap is all that is needed. They have pretty good mass hanging off your hip. The plastic wedges cost a lot less. They will lift quite a bit. You can saw on the end and, well surely you are tracking with me here. A guy doesn't cry when you lose one, lol. Thanks for watching.

@CatDaddySteve

3 жыл бұрын

@@hotsaws101 Thanks buddy

I got to have my RPMs this saw a piece of junk! In the woodyard county firewood day after day! It's perfect. It's got a good air filter! Plenty of horsepower. 24 and 28-in chain. I also bought a 20 inch bar. Go out in the woods! Knock down the tree! What do you have if you using it for firewood. You do need a chainsaw that will last for years. Keep Your home Depot chainsaw. I really don't like pulling.

HOW NOT to fell a tree. SMH

@hotsaws101

Жыл бұрын

Clueless...

That thing looks weak in the videos for it's size. A 575xp and a 372 will smoke that thing.

@rndm4642

3 жыл бұрын

He said it’s running at high elevation and is stock.

@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403

3 жыл бұрын

Once it sees a dozen tanks of fuel it will loosen up and run a lot better. Mine were the same way.

@amongsttheelements2711

3 жыл бұрын

I have the 7310 keeps up right next to my stihl 661 ..can barley tell cut time difference

@Billster1955

2 жыл бұрын

@@amongsttheelements2711 now that's some good I info. Thank you very much.

That Echo still have catalytic converter in muffler?

@sundial6919

3 жыл бұрын

Didnt know they have c conv , is muffler sealed ?

@Imageloading...

3 жыл бұрын

@@sundial6919 echo has had to do this since late 2000s if not mistaken

@Imageloading...

3 жыл бұрын

@@sundial6919 makita also. Stihl also uses them

@lokaniukas

3 жыл бұрын

@bmxbeemer80 no, all >50cc Echo saws do not have cats in them.

@Imageloading...

3 жыл бұрын

@@lokaniukas which ones do not?

I really don’t like Echo Saws. Don’t ask me why, but I don’t like them.

@HolzDennis

3 жыл бұрын

@Autigers 2010 Why should I don't use them? I don't like them, so I want use them.

@sundial6919

3 жыл бұрын

@Autigers 2010 if properly cared for they rarely if ever give trouble . Still running ol sc3000 t.h. saw ive had since mid 90s . Love my refined new ol school echo saws

@Mikzone-zb6jk

3 жыл бұрын

You don't like something you've never tried?.... you sound like my 4 year old lol jk bro😂😂

@todwinter3972

3 жыл бұрын

Lotta videos of tree companies being traded echo saws to use for day days or months.. Ive yet to see 1 man prefer to keep the echo.. So Stihl only saw co. Without bar tension nub on removable side cover(which ruins saw). 461 is the only all round saw made no solenoid either. Its saw not truck.. Dolmar 7900 best engine on 80cc saws wicked sounding also. God be with you

@batmantiss

3 жыл бұрын

They make a good saw, but they cut corners on things like plastic handles and such

So why didn't you bump up a hair instead of sticking your bar and chair in the dirt a real rookie move....must been a slow COVID winter.. shake off the rust and a Echo... Shoe

@hotsaws101

3 жыл бұрын

Robert hi. Glad you asked. Because I cut low stumps. Been doing it since '76. I cut down a tree on the edge of the landing that the loader operator was banging the counter weight on. Low & behold, after a few passes he was dragging the underbelly on the stump already. Had to then lower it - which then required excavation. Additionally, I will break less wood when the stumps are lower. Because, well,,, because no matter how great a guy thinks he is at felling timber, he is going to be "hittin" a stump every once and awhile. At least out on the West Coast anyway. Your going to slab less wood also. The slabbing will be less severe when the stumps are lower when it does happen - because that will be happening as well. And of course, there is the possibility the Scott wanted a low stump... This is because there were to be trees folded in from above and to the left of the lay later on. Not sure how, but, you "musta" missed the boot @ 4:27 sampling the "dirt". It was pine needle buildup, not terra firma. Duff I call it. On a personal note, I wish more commenters were also creators. They would find it doesn't always look the same through a lens/monitor. That is why you will never find an "off color" comment made by the guy in this video on what someone else is doing. After having filmed and viewed a multitude of videos, going into the third decade now, I know that it never looks exactly the same as is does standing there. What they would also find - that no matter how great of a faller they presume themselves to be, there WILL ALWAYS be those that are going to armchair critique with the wodda, shudda, cudda on proper this, that, whatever. I'm going to default beck to the 4th thought and adding in, unless a guy is stand right there the entire scope & parameters are not fully grasped. In the end, here was no "autopilot" going on here. Thanks for watching.

@Billster1955

2 жыл бұрын

@@hotsaws101 great video as usual. Have you had opportunity to cut any more trees with a 7310 that's had a dozen tanks run through it already as some here are commenting that's when they come to life?

👍👎🤮

I’m definitely interested to see the gains you make with this saw 🪚

@jormatuppurainen6086

3 жыл бұрын

I like to see more than idiot working !!