This is a perfect instructional video. It should be titled " How not to fell a tree or run a saw." That poor bar and chain . I could hear on my phone how much it was over tightened. Then that tree falling the wrong direction... Pure Green Horn Gold. I wouldn't be surprised if Echo paid him good money to never use their products ever again in a YT video.

@joesoutdoorexperience

5 ай бұрын

Hey Shanemiller, First off, thank you for taking the time out of your day to not only watch but also to comment. Thank you!! I should go back and rename it, LOL, but the title works. Yes, you are right; I am totally new to chainsaws. I hope you took the time to read the description of that video. I'm sure it says somewhere that I am "new" and/or "have a limited amount of knowledge," but like many things in life, that is not going to stop me from pursuing a growing passion. Moreover, ECHO has commented on and liked several of my videos! You are right; ECHO has reached out to me, but with very kind words. I would love to invite you to make your own channel. Clearly, with your vast knowledge and immense skill level, you would have no trouble not only growing a channel but also showing how even a professional like yourself cannot and will not EVER make a mistake. When you make the channel, please email me : joesoutdoorexperience@gmail.com so that I can get a notification and subscribe. Thank you again Joe

@se1501

5 ай бұрын

​@@joesoutdoorexperienceI never learned much by getting something right the first time. Keep doing and to hell with people that think that simply recognizing others' imperfections erases their own. Stay safe. You can always buy another bar, chain, or even a new saw. Cancel Reply

@morgancoldfirecoldfire8256

5 ай бұрын

so as a newbie my self what did you learn or why did it go wrong ? @@joesoutdoorexperience

@joesoutdoorexperience

5 ай бұрын

@@morgancoldfirecoldfire8256 good afternoon Morgan, I cut to big of a face and it was way to windy! I should have taken my time looked up the tree and see what side it was favoring too. Thank you for taking time out of your day to watch and comment..

@ShelbyvsViper

3 ай бұрын

Good saw video Joe, but here is some advice - 'edit your videos' so you wont get bashed in YT!

I've been a commercial cutter 40 years the 590 timberwolf is the best saw I've ever owned my crew won't use my sthils or huskys they all switched to echo

@joesoutdoorexperience

10 ай бұрын

Good afternoon, WOW that's great news. Thank you for watching and for commenting! I love to hear the positive feed back. Question if you do not mind what would you recommend for another ECHO chainsaw? Thank you again and stay safe!

The Echo is the best for the money. I got rim sprocket 24 bar 620 carb double spikes roller chain catcher. I put longer bar studs and made my own double bumper & chain catch. Gonna get the 3/4 wrap handle.

@joesoutdoorexperience

11 ай бұрын

Richard that sounds crazy!! I can not lie I had to google your mods! What would you recommend for someone like myself that has next to no experience with getting more out of the chainsaw..

I bought the CS590 with a 24 inch bar a few years ago and added the compatible 20 inch bar from Oregon Products. I use it and a Stihl MS170 around our property. They have been very reliable.

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Good afternoon Slippery Blue Clay, thank you for watching! I only have about 1-2 hours on both saws and I’m really impressed with them.. Having a longer bar makes bucking up the poles so much easier on your back.

@rorynelson7548

5 ай бұрын

The 170 is awesome! I almost didn't like it til it kind of broke in and I had to retune the idle, now I love that saw

Hey Joe I remember talking to you on your livestream that one day. About the cs 590 timberwolf. You're going to love that chainsaw. Keep your air filter clean you shouldn't have any problems with. I've had mine for 3 years perfect runner. As always your friend Stanley Jack from Piqua Ohio. keep up the great videos. You're doing a fine job son!

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Bent , I do remember you were the only person who joined the stream thank you again…

@bentwedgestanleybrand5818

Жыл бұрын

@@joesoutdoorexperience well I understand, what not knowing what chainsaw to buy. I think you made a very good choice with the echo CS 590. I use that chainsaw to build my business. Good luck my friend and keep up the great videos.

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

@@bentwedgestanleybrand5818 thank you, I use this morning and It just seems to keep making power..

@shanew7361

Жыл бұрын

Debating between this and the Stihl-MS 271 in a 20 inch bar. 🤔

I cut around the bolt tubes cut the front half of the muffler off cut around the outlet pipe take all the guts out make a flat to fit with holes to fit the bolt tubes weld it hole in front for 3/4 pipe welded on 1 3/4 remove limit caps stop main jet bleed hole and run it a little rich. It won't rev but it will run under load, cooler and more torque get the heat up out & away from the motor. I'm gonna get a 620 cylinder and pop up piston too. Mine is a real Log Hog.

@joesoutdoorexperience

11 ай бұрын

Nothing beats talking to someone who really knows what they are doing sounds sick. Im over here triple checking myself when I put on a new chain 😂

I bought this saw last month with the 24 in bar . Excellent value for the money . After breakin period I moded the muffler and WOW More power 👍👍👍👍👍👍out of the box it came with Oregon chain ⛓️

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Hello Robert you are the second person today today informed me about the muffler mod !! I’m going to look into this.. where did you pick yours up? And thank you for watching.

@robert4027

Жыл бұрын

@@joesoutdoorexperience I ordered my Echo through Amazon. The muffler I did myself with a drill . Unbolt the muffler and top plate on the muffler and drill a quarter inch hole . rinse it out when done and put all back together

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

@@robert4027 ohh wow thank you Robert , I can not lie I am not that skilled..

The top of the tree is the heavy part. Most cases the tree will fall the way the top is leaning even if the bottom is leaning the opposite way. Cheers

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Good morning Frank, thank you It took me by surprise

@frankz1125

Жыл бұрын

@@joesoutdoorexperience Just wait until a big tree does that. Cheers

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

@@frankz1125 lol Frank I’m not going to lie these may be some of the “biggest” trees I take down…

@frankz1125

Жыл бұрын

@@joesoutdoorexperience big or small. It is good practice to do it correctly. Learn to read the trees. LOL

In some cases it is best to back cut first and wedge it then make your face cut. Then drive the edge in to move the tree. Make sure to leave enough holding wood in the hinge.

@frankz1125

Жыл бұрын

here is a good example.......kzread.info/dash/bejne/pp2pmtKMhLqTe7A.html

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Frank I screen shot this information and I am going to try and apply it this week.

@AnarchAngel1

Жыл бұрын

I like to make the back cut first on trees I'm felling the opposite way of their lean. Chase it with some wedges and then make an extra wide face cut and wedge it over. It's important in those situation to keep the corners of the face cut as close to level with the back cut as possible. If your back cut is even a little low you end up having to lift the whole tree with your wedges and it makes it more difficult than it needs to be. You needed to get a wedge in there as soon as possible and your face cut was a little deep for a leaning tree as well. You also pretty much cut all your hingewood...general rule you wanna leave 10%

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

@@AnarchAngel1 good evening 5.556SPR thank you for the information I will take note and try to apply this. Thank you very much all insight helps

@AnarchAngel1

Жыл бұрын

​@@joesoutdoorexperience No problem. I just added a few things I noticed

What size bar is that on it? I have one a echo CS-590 timber wolf with a 24" bar on it, they're good strong chainsaws, I'll like you buy another one in 18" bar

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

River Sportsman it came with a 20” bar, I was advised to get a bigger bar!! I only have about 30 mins running it and I have to say i really like it.. sorry for the late response

Just got myself a 590 off eBay. New $399 w 24" bar

@joesoutdoorexperience

9 ай бұрын

Good morning Brandon that’s a great deal! My next saw will have a 24” bar. If this is your first 590 you will love it! Good luck Joe

@brandonhoad9033

9 ай бұрын

@@joesoutdoorexperience I've got a lil 352 from trimming aka the gf to use. Also Husqvarna 450 and a China 372xp w 24". Have ordered a 20" for the 590. Was too good a deal too not get the big bar. Everyone seems to like them a lot and my local YTer (TC's outdoors) runs one and 620, both at least partially ported

Been there done that....the notch was cut too deep, almost put one on my house that way.

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Good evening Jacob, thank you for the advise. I appreciate all the information. That would have made for a bad day good thing it didn’t happen. Hope all is well!

Is the 13 pounds just the powerhead or entire saw with bar?

@joesoutdoorexperience

5 ай бұрын

Good morning Rorynelson I do not have the owners manual at my house its at my parents but I did just google total weight of saw. As per google its has the power head at 13.2lbs or 6kg and some of the forms I clicked on has the total weight oil, fuel, bar , chain , powerhead coming in at 21.35lbs or 9.6kg. Sorry for the late response rorynelson , but thank you for taking the time out of your day to watch and comment. Joe

Your notch wasn’t deep enough that’s why it fell the other way

@joesoutdoorexperience

3 ай бұрын

Good morning joshuamilesko , thank you for taking time out of your day to not only watch but to comment with helpfull information. This was one of the first few trees I ever cut! Thank you again and please if you ever see anything I do wrong or I can change please feel free to let me know. Joe

Im thinking about buying the 620 pw….anyone on here own one? Thoughts about the saw?

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Hello SouthIN66 I had to google that and will look into one.. I will ask my local dealer if they will let me demo one

Honestly I can't see what went wrong there, you corrected your notch before you made your back cut, I just can't see the whole story through your camera. 🤷‍♂️

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Benjamin from what I gather.. A lot more of the canopy was leaning the direction it fell.. I have to pay more attention all I know before I cut down any trees I make sure we have exit plans.

Im a new cutter too. The issues I see is this. Your face was WAY to big. On your back cut you went WAY to fast and too deep to quickly. Its important to get a wedge in the tree UNLESS you are confident of its lean and where the weight is. This pole didnt catch much wind so that is Not the issue. IF you had a smaller face you could have gone deeper in the back cut getting a wedge in that EASY... On smaller trees you dont want to pound a wedge in the back of your saw so its important to know when to stop cutting and put in a wedge. The wedge gives you control and keeps the tree off your saw in a pinch situation. When your tree is almost cut up and it sits back on your saw because you didnt use a wedge NOW you have a dangerous situation. if you like a standard face cut ALWAYS start with your angle cut first. that plane WILL work for your falling line on your tree just the same as your flat cut. AND it will allow you to see your chain and prevent Dutchman. When you get good at that style you can go back to the flat cut first.

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Good afternoon LiveFreeOrRIP , First off thank you so much for providing information and kind words. I will take your information and apply it this weekend. Thank you for taking time out of your day to watch and lend information. Joe

The lean of the trunk isn't the whole story. How the limbs and upper weight are distributed determine more of where a tree wants to fall. Wedging is a false sense of security. Trying to make a tree fall where it doesn't want to is what makes for videos of tree felling gone wrong.

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Good morning Scott , thank you you are right at the time I didn’t know much about the high vs low side of a tree. I do appreciate you watching and providing information. Thank you I am still learning and comments like yours help tremendously.

Now you just need to get a 455 rancher 😆 Or 460, up to you

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Good morning Benjamin, lol your right my birthday, and Father’s Day are only a few days apart

@user-yo2uo4si3u

10 ай бұрын

I'd never trade my timberwolf for a sthil or husky

I've been a professional cutter 40 years time is money i never waste time with a wedge cut mmuch faster to swipe cut easy if you have experience

@joesoutdoorexperience

10 ай бұрын

Perfect, I am trying to learn how to cut down trees in the safest way, so if you see anything I could do different or safer please let me know! I don't have anyone I know that cuts down trees so I take all constructive criticism.

@ArborReal_Life

Ай бұрын

Uh, no... keep practicing your proper felling cuts. That sociopath is trying to get you killed.

BTW, is this guy still alive?

@joesoutdoorexperience

5 ай бұрын

What guy Ted?

@joshuamilesko9525

3 ай бұрын

😂😂

I’m thinking you are enjoying them at ECHO a lot . Nice job Joe !!

@joesoutdoorexperience

Жыл бұрын

Good morning Del, yes I did I like everything about it so far..

You should not be operating a chain saw. Take a training class before you hurt your self

@joesoutdoorexperience

9 ай бұрын

Terry thank you for watching and your concern!

Chain too tight

@joesoutdoorexperience

11 ай бұрын

Good afternoon Richard looking back yes I know sheesh.. I didn’t know any better lol Hope all is well