The follow up scout for Robo or Templar archives is what I’ve been missing I think, thanks for that!

Lambo out here doing God's work, making sure that Protoss players don't just Skytoss every game.

Thanks for this one. After the early guides I sometimes win, but many times I find myself losing by going to the late game due to a lack of a plan of what do I do next, and still dying with like 40K to 15K resources lost (trying the different late game comps, that sometimes work, but many times not). Not a fan of roach hydra, as I always preferred hydra bane, but it is still better then the 38 drone hatch tech queen push, that wins me ZvPs when I do it (I avoid doing it all the time, as I believe we will get fine macro ZvPs either by adjusting our play or may be a balance patch).

So you did actually upload this game! It was truly too great to not upload.

cool build thx for the great content

This is what I need right now. Diamond here

A gameplan perfectly displayed by Reynor as he dominated zest in the iem katowice finals. Nice build Lambo!!

Anti voidray indeed! Nice game by you :)

I'm so salty... just lost two times in a row to void ray templar into carriers. Thanks for this.

Really good video

Reynor won the World Championship with this. Hope hes buying you a six pack beer ^^

Damn that was beautiful

This game plan does wonders. On my level, low masters sometimes even just high diamond, robo bay usually means colos rather then ruptors, even though ruptors follow once I appear with lurkers. First time I lost to it, but vipers seem to do the trick, and I'm getting used to have them with some overseers as I get feedbaked many times if they are on their own. But the bottom line is that this somewhat greedy, but very good game plan wins me ZvPs now quite consistently.

Thx

Tried this and won the first time with my queens chasing a mothership across half the map and the P just going "WOW". after 100% loss rate against late game P this felt good.

Hi lambo, is hydra ling bane timing also good vs this toss build?

@archyology

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not good unless you pull queens as well, and then it can still be countered by storm and ground units. Hence getting huge amounts of queens and lurkers

Can someone post the link to the advance early game guide

easy peasy lemon squeezy

hey lambo, what the difference between this and hydra bane timing in terms of advantages? I feel like this is a much stronger push than hydra bane, so why do pro players still go for hydra bane timing?

@clemensmartin1034

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, I wondered the same thing. I manage to hit the hydra bane timing with maxed out supply before 9 mins pretty consistently (so basically the same timing as most pros) but I don´t really tend to kill my opponents that easily from there. They usually already have quite a lot of carriers and storm which feels like an insta loss... Hopefully this works much better!

@QqqQqq-sb4yn

3 жыл бұрын

@@clemensmartin1034 I think we missing some key point here. maybe hydra bane should hit 2-3 mins earlier than this, before p has a decent army

@clemensmartin1034

3 жыл бұрын

@@QqqQqq-sb4yn Yeah I think you shouldn´t wait to max out probably - honestly even the pros don´t seem to have a lot of success with the later hydra-bane max out. Also I think my issue was that the toss skipped the void ray phase and went right into carrier, so yeah then you prob just wanna pump some corruptors or the fart-cloud out.

@rozmarinideas5340

3 жыл бұрын

I think because Hydra Bane is more micro-able and less all in. Also I think pro players would be able to scout the mass queen more easily, though I'm not sure what one would do against this push normally. Maybe make a lot of cannon battery and get immortals instead of high templar? I don't know.

@QqqQqq-sb4yn

3 жыл бұрын

@@clemensmartin1034 I watch a bit more replays I think u r supposed to hit at 8

The one guy at blizzard is going to nerf queens again I can see it. :(

@an0nsaiko890

3 жыл бұрын

at this point they might as well remove them, they re probably the only efficient option to shut down this kind of protoss builds before the game goes late

@Sparta-vu3jj

3 жыл бұрын

@@an0nsaiko890 What about injects? terrens can repair, toss have shields zerg needs metamorph (heal) Queens do a lot more then waddle across the map when vsing toss stargate openers.

@an0nsaiko890

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Sparta-vu3jj my comment was an obvious joke. Queens are extremely important but i don't think they deserve to get another nerf.

FIRST

@dodi-np4su

3 жыл бұрын

No way I did it, I wanna thank my parents my..

@AlexScorpionVn

3 жыл бұрын

5 min in too

@dodi-np4su

3 жыл бұрын

@Wischmopps it's obviously a joke chill

Can't we somehow abuse the fact that the opponent goes mass air without any detection using borrow and mass creep spread?

@KaktoPredi4e

3 жыл бұрын

Burrow and creep spread doesn't hit air

@gsbetthedoom

3 жыл бұрын

Plus cannons and oracles provide enough detection.

@rozmarinideas5340

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe a Tunneling Claws Roach timing. It wouldn't be consistent, but it bypasses the natural wall off, so long as the Toss isn't super campy.

@sonicfirefreak

3 жыл бұрын

If you build enough roaches to do damage, you're either doing a base trade (worse for you) or they're killing your roaches at home. This only works if they don't have detection (oracle, observer, cannons). Even then, the roaches are devalued after one attack.

@Joyexer

3 жыл бұрын

@@rozmarinideas5340 thats trash tier. If the enemy just has one observer, you simply get trapped in their base and loose your whole army cause of the voidrays

Please make a guide how to play random 4v4 as a zerg