When things need a little thickening up, this is the trick you need, it was used a lot in the 80's for mastering in the new york mastering houses...enjoy and let me know how you use it in the comments...mix buss, single instrument etc???

@AVDRE

3 жыл бұрын

did you show your credit card on camera, not safe

@BreakBeta

3 жыл бұрын

I just love the ease of Compressors that come with a wet/dry nob, UAD distressor for example - over do it a bit and then back it off, makes using it on instruments nice and easy

Finally a consistent, well composed fellow talking the way I understand. Cheers Streaky!

As always thank you so much for your time and vast knowledge..its great to see your reputation and channel growing exponentially..well deserved!

I have to say that you are my favorite channel to watch. Suffice to say I have an extensive audio background. You excel in your ability to explain what you are teaching in an easy to understand way, Not only that you are teaching very necessary techniques, which can lead to skills. It also will help to pass on audio standards, when all us older types are gone:)!!! Thank you, Streaky

Really enjoying the content streaky! Learning a lot, I struggle with my mastering, very valuable stuff, like the little gags and bloopers too. Just wanted to say thanks and top man.

Love this - do a lot of parallel stuff but usually just on vocals, drums and bass but never set that up as parallel across whole mix or in mastering - so awesome can definitely hear the benefit! Thanks @streaky!

Great!! and well broken down to understand with simplicity. Thank You 🎶🎶🎧

First time I've watched one of your videos, so well presented and great content.

I’ve been playing around with 3 parallel comps set up on there own buses well I mix. It’s kind of taking the Micheal Brauer idea of multi bus but with parallel comps. The first bus will be the “bigger” bus, so usually a more gentle sounding compressor with an EQ after with a small low and high shelf boosts. The 2 is set up to add aggressive punch. So the comp is faster and the eq is boosting somewhere around 500-800 hz The 3rd is set up to add focus. Smooth comp with a faster attack and medium release with an eq boost after around 1.5 k So when I’m mixing ill play around with turning up the sends from individual tracks to the different parallel busses and just hear the tone changes. I’ve found it makes the individual tracks get more mojo without having to spend as much time By the end of the mix I’ve noticed it adds a little more movement throughout the track because the different comps are moving in the background around the random tracks that got sent to them

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Nice tips

I can simply watch u all day, ddnt expect the waitros trip, ur absolutely crazy and I absolutely love u streaky

Loved it streaky. Always good info. Keep up with good work. Well wishes from Australia.

Cheers Streaky, these recent uploads have been excellent 👌

This is by far the most helpfull video I've ever seen and I've seen al lot. You sir are very underrated

I didn’t know parallel compression was used during the mastering stage. You learn something new everyday!

Great video, love the juice comparison! Also, I almost forgot how clunky protools is.

Killing it my man!!!

Nice vid! I like to use parallel with bluecat patchwork, set the output to sum rather than average and mult the path there. That way i have independent controls of both wet and dry signal, which I prefer to a blend knob. Great way to hit some juice pre limiter without killing all the life out of it!

That was a great trick Streaky! little added tip from me, Do this with Studiorack from Waves and you don't need to worry about phase issues and stuff! Only thing is you are limited to use waves plugins only which are great anyway. Thanks again Streaky! Also love the outside shots. Please do more of those. Best

Great Teacher Streaky🙌🏽🔥

Hahaha... that's the best parallel comp explanation ever :D Brilliant!

Amazing vídeo, i don't find this types of tecniques here um Brazil easy. Tanks Bro.

OmG......the best illustration ive ever seen.

love parallel compression on drums and vocals great video and nice little mic drop!!! 👍🏻😍😝

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Need to invest in a longer cable 🤦‍♂️

Superb!

love the paralllel low end

This music makes me feel like its the good old days in 1986 again. Sweet!

@Omegagon

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah if you run a search for synthwave or retrowave you find loads of it. I love the vibe of the track Streaky's using in the video. Good driving at night music.

When you use linear phase EQ nd other modes, in ur application ? Pls make a video on it.

Yeah yeah. l use it aka the dangerous 2 bus+ paralimit feature across my stereo mix🙂

Nice track!

I usually ad some sat, not much, to the parallel and do a cut in the lows

HAHAHAaaaaaaa!!! I watch your Instagram stuff, but this is hilarious! :))) love it! I'm on my way to you for some mastering by the way...looking forward to working together. :)

Thats the 80s Depeche Mode, Level 42 sound.. Nice!🔥

Good to see you working in Pro Tools

Espresso and Professor Streaky archives go well on a Sunday morning... Recommended!! #STREAKYACADEMY

I've used it [in the mix] for vocals in the old "wall of sound" approach; use EQ on the send to bring up the vocal's presence and clarity frequencies. What that does is to set the minimum level of the vocal track so it sits on top instead of sinking into the mix. In less dense mixes it can help a wavery vocal sound more confident. Parallel compression is also handy for plinky acoustic guitars that need thickening without sounding compressed.

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah love that idea for the vocals

@iqi616

3 жыл бұрын

@@Streaky_com I forgot to say thanks for the tip - I'd not thought of doing that on the low end in mastering.

tell'em streaky, tell'em! 25 YEARS

hi! great tips. would it be possible to see how do you treat the tracks in a "stems mastering". cheers!

amazing guy😂

Is the parallel eq not gonna mess with the phase? Thanks for the vid!

New york style PC on snare is incredible. A dbx160 then a smiley face puigtec eq, unmatched for me so far

Could you do a video on parallel EQing?

Nice one :)

Great content Streaky ! Really enjoying this deeply informative series : Mastering! Edit: Can one go as far and use a Multiband compressor for this trick instead?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah give it a try

@StevieBoyesmusic

3 жыл бұрын

Only with linear phase or subtractive crossovers. The phase shift on minimum phase crossovers will make a notch filter.

Waitrose has the best parallel compressors! :D

Hi and thanks, I am confusing with using rear bus technique and parallel comp!!! Can I use both in a mix? Parallel for drum and rear bus technique for the whole mix except drum?

I do this exact thing (other than low passing) but try to achieve a gain reduction of -8 to -10 dB on the compressor. I see your gain reduction was much more. Is there a gain reduction that's ideal when parallel compressing - especially when doing it to the whole mix?

hey great video but I didn't quite understand what I was supposed to listen to as example for that I mean: if I had to eq something and do a surgical cut after searching 4 the off setting frequencies id know what I have to do and what my ear should expect to listen for but in this case I don't know what im supposed to hear

Very clearly explained. Thanks so much. Is phasing a concern when using dual tracks instead of an aux?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t use dual tracks as it might cause issues

Great! Is it time to stop using 'Rear bus compressing' and wait using parallel to the mastering stage? Great show. Thanks.

Thanks streaky for all your knowledge ... I have learned quite a few good tips from you my friend ... Question : can I use this technique for example on bass or on synths for more full power sound ?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

No rules if it sounds good to you it is 👍

A little "twist" of lemon #ParallelCompression

Hi Streaky, while parallel processing, would not a linear phase EQ be more relevant to cut frequencies ? Keep the videos comin' brother, cheers

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I forgot to flick the switch 🤦‍♂️

Hey Streaky, is this essentially the rear buss technique during the mastering stage?

Good stuff here man. You're a ringer for Justin Guitar btw

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Come on Justin Guitar is a ringer for me 😂😂😂

1:28 reminds me of how dubstep was invented clip. my god, I got laughing tears😂😂😂

Would have been nice to see the compressor with active signal, as I’m curious about threshold and amount of compression happening.

If only this youtube thing had the necessary codecs and quality available to really hear what's going on. When Streaky dials something in, compares tonal differences or anything like that, he always says, let's exaggerate it, to really show you the effect and that exaggerated version is the one where the change finally becomes perceptible. But you also got a louder is better type of thing going on. The explanations are still right and there is no excess mumbo jumbo or voodoo and definitely no snake oil being sold here, but I guess you have to sit down, play the tutorial in windowed mode and really go through what he is showing with your own stuff. It sucks, but youtube just isn't anywhere close to usable with this. It's just optimized for low storage and especially audio is being treated like something that can save MBs, like 99% of the people won't hear the difference between max 128kb/s variable bitrate and flac anyway. That is a bad place to be to really show what is going on in a mastering setting. That sort of requires a good room and great speakers or at least very high quality headphones even if your audio quality is great. Now I'd say the majority of people watch this on their phones with earbuds in. Essentially 90% of the people watching probably can't tell the difference even in most of the very exaggerated examples. If 0.5 dB is subtle and 3 dB makes it really obvious, then on earbuds through a regular mid level phone's DA conversion, after youtube mangled the hell out of the audio, listeners start to hear the difference at 3dB. Really obvious is probably more like 6 dB. That's not any body's fault, but if you are watching and thinking, wow it gets slightly louder maybe, but I can't really tell a difference, you aren't crazy. You need to go try this information out on your own gear with actual high quality audio and preferably at least some really good headphones. If I had to make 1 suggestion to Streaky, it would be, go overboard a lot more. When you think it is clearly too much, that's when we start hearing an actual difference here on youtube. When you pull it back to something more reasonable, we get to subtle differences that require a treated room with some good monitoring or at least high end headphones and Rock solid d/a to follow. So when your ears tell you mission accomplished and you make your last before and after comparison I hear absolutely no difference whatsoever the second I close my eyes. Sure in the studio on mains I can hear a very very slight difference, but not on the go with a phone or on a pad. More gain matching and more exeggeration would be nice for a lot of these tutorials. Just keep telling us, sometbing, like 1/2 a dB is nice with this, maybe 1 dB max, but don't exaggerate to 2dBs, go to 4 or 5 or 6. Even the extreme 2 dB is super subtle on youtube. It's just how it is.

Hi, very nicely taught video. Thanks Streaky, super helpfull. Cheers 😃 PS : i guess the track + paralelle compression was tastier then the paralelle orange juices, don't they?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Very good 😂😂

i don't hear any difference except some boost in low frequency. is this what parallel compression does? is it different from boosting low frequency?

So is it just the dry/wet dial? lol Or maybe aux track vol with full wet? what is the difference? Why do you make a separate copy of the track and the apply compression there?

Zackly!

Could you do the same video again, but on LPX? You lost me when you started talking about the double channels @5:44 ;(

Better to use a compressor with a mix ratio (dry/wet) available on the plugin. Will insure zero latency which will prevent phase. This is more an issue in busy plugin intensive mixes.

@hearmenow909

3 жыл бұрын

But then you can't put an EQ before it.

@JMPMusicOffical

3 жыл бұрын

@@hearmenow909 you can depends on what you want to do. If you want to eq the whole signal then parallel comp just put eq plugin first the comp plugin after. If you want to side chain eq for more complicated set up like keying the compressor signal to only effect specific frequencies just use the side chain feature of the plugin like fabFilter comp then adjust the wet dry. The point im trying to make is be mindful of latency when using parallel compression. Sometimes can effect phase where you will loose slight mono compatibility.

Thank you very much Streaky, loved the visualization :) One question if I may, so using this technique in individual tracks or group busses ( drum, bass, pads etc ) do you suggest using the same compressor with same settings for the sake of consistency or does it depend on the group and its sounds? I am an amateur trance producer ( totally amateur ) and I have many many many tracks and group busses :) That is why I am asking actually.

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

You can use any compressor if you like the sound then that’s all that matters

@Keroser1983

3 жыл бұрын

@@Streaky_com Cool

I see it’s still bloody raining!

Hi Streaky, what about using linear phase EQ before NY comp? I'm not a big fan of linear phase EQ except for this application. What is your advice on that? Thank you very much 🙂

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

I do yes just forgot to flick the switch 🤦‍♂️

Does eq'ing the copy create phase issues

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Not that I can hear, latency will do that

imyheart vst is good for this

I use I heart NYC PLUG-IN

Hi why only 4.1 many videos show 12.1 CLA says 20.1 what your reason for 4.1 please?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the standard for ssl style comp

I barely hear a different but mostly hear no difference :( I'm using DT 990 Pro headphones.

I feel like mixing together a heavily compressed track with an uncompressed track, should *in theory* be the same as a single track with a medium level of compression... or is it definitely it’s own unique thing that can’t be replicated with a single, less compressed track?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

No as you are adding different harmonics etc by using the heavy compression...you can also control and get creative with the type and amount of blend...like I do at the end of the video

@WilliamJohnston

3 жыл бұрын

@@Streaky_com awesome I’ll need to start giving it a go, cheers again for all these amazing regular tips! 🤟

@iqi616

3 жыл бұрын

William, think of it like this: regular compression squashes down the loud bits but parallel compression pushes up the quiet bits. That can be very handy when you need to compress something without it being obvious e.g. on a solo acoustic guitar.

how would you use this on drums specifically? I’ve heard before that you shouldn’t use it on kick sub but i could be wrong of course

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@brianpennymusic

3 жыл бұрын

For drums I usually only send the close microphones to the parallel comp. For me when I send overheads or room microphones to the main parallel drum comp it gets phase problems because the comp moves the sound so much faster attack and fast release. Your looking for the “body” of the drum and trying to thicken that up. Usually for drums I’ll throw an EQ after the parallel comp and add a little somewhere between 80-125, a little around 4-5k and cut the low mids a hair.

@DraftZJ

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianpennymusic I am using GetGood Drums so it’s midi, i have a kick sum, kick sub, snare top, snare bottom, Toms, Hats, Rides, and OH, and Room. you can also adjust the room close and room far levels within kontakt. which would you suggest sending and not sending to a parallel compression track? thanks for any input btw, i’m very new and learning a lot from youtube. which helps for sure but some more specific questions like this it’s nice to have comments like this.

@brianpennymusic

3 жыл бұрын

DraftZJ once you have written the drum part try copying the track and muting all the close microphones from one (kick, snare and Toms) and on the other track delete the OH, HH, and room microphones. That way you have 2 tracks to play with when mixing. I would start with trying the parallel comp trick with just the close microphones

Mr Streaky, on rare occasions I've run in to phase issues doing P/C - how do you handle that ?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Normally latency issue with some plugs

@semephor

3 жыл бұрын

I figured out why I was getting phase issues.. Make sure the PC on the bus channel is set to 100% wet signal, then it should not cause phase issues. I had put Ableton Multiband onto a bus channel and was sending signal into it, but it doesn't have an explicit dry/wet knob, output signal contains input hence phasing.

Do we always need parallel comp in mastering?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

No very track dependent

How can I do this in the analog world with a analog mixer and analog compressor.....I hate plugins

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I used to as well 🙏👍

@dannydaniel1234

3 жыл бұрын

@@Streaky_com Great! But you didn't explain how to do it....I dont use Protools. I record on a tascam 246 4 track cassette

Whats the difference to using the Wet-Dry on a compressor? Its basically the same isn`t it?

@Streaky_com

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of but you don’t have the same control and creativity as you do sending to a buss...

@iqi616

3 жыл бұрын

Saar, you can't EQ the wet separately. This relies on the dry being straight-through but the wet being EQed. For regular full-range parallel compression you can use wet/dry.

@saardean4481

3 жыл бұрын

@@Streaky_com i see. that option i underestimated i guess

@saardean4481

3 жыл бұрын

@@iqi616 hmm. You are right, now that i think of it i dont know a compressor that has a full eq for the wet signal integrated in the plugin. Only reverbs. The nearest thing i can think of is multiband. Dynone for example. You could mix the compressed signal only in the highs+lows and leave the mids uncompressed. This should sound similar to a smile eq on the wet signal in a way. Other way would be in ableton. the easiest would be an effect chain where you can make one with comp+eq and one with the dry and blend them together any way you like. Without duplicating the track. There are some very interesting ways to do it. Fascinating times imo

@iqi616

3 жыл бұрын

@@saardean4481 I don't think multiband would be the same. The principle is that instead of pushing down the loud bits, parallel compression effectively lifts up the quiet bits.

One shot for every time he says thick lol

That was relatively good, normally you take too long getting to the point.

“Hi I’m streaky, and welcome to another video. For those of you who are watching for the first time, I am the GOAT. Now moving on to today’s topic”

hhhhhhhhhh

All the Compressors to choose Streaky you advertise slate! Slate is an ego maniac liar !!🤮