Easy Fix Made Difficult - Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 Repair

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This Marshall Dual Super Lead head came with a customer complaint of "glowing tubes but no sound". Our worst fear is that the main secondary of the power transformer might be shorted or open. This would require a replacement transformer. But the actual problem may be even more puzzling.

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  • @TheGuitologist
    @TheGuitologist7 жыл бұрын

    UPDATE: I contacted the customer on this and he told me this amp was lent out to a friend or family member and it had failed while in their possession, which is just typical, isn't it. He also said when he finally got it back from this irresponsible person, they had left the head in the trunk of their car for about 6 months bouncing around in all weather conditions. That would not have caused a fuse to blow, but god knows what other idiotic things this person did to blow the fuse. Let this be a lesson to you all...NEVER, NEVER, NEVER loan out your gear to friends or family. Just don't do it. Make it a policy and stick with it. The only people who loan out equipment are those with no expectation of getting it back in the same condition in which it left.

  • @eddiem4868

    @eddiem4868

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Guitologist that's how mine was messed up lent it to someone to record with it and gave it back with no sound lol lesson learned

  • @crimsun7186

    @crimsun7186

    7 жыл бұрын

    This can be solved using the Glenn Fricker principle, which is: Whenever someone asks to borrow equipment from you, you ask them: "Can you afford to fix it if you break it?" and, if the answer is anything but a clear and assertive "yes", you don't lend it. Simple as that.

  • @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204

    @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204

    7 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely true El Guitologista. A lot of musicians have this thing among friends and family that if you loan them an instrument, you're basically giving it to them. My son loaned a bass to a friend, the friend moved away, took the bass. Gone forever. I loaned my 1979 Fender American Stratocaster (a very bad year for Fender quality) to the person I trusted most and it came back with a big chip out of the paint, down to the wood. No fault of his, defective finish (air bubble!) but it happened the ONE day HE had it! Weird, but that's how that stuff goes, over and over.

  • @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage

    @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've done it twice. Both times there were issues with the amp. Never again! They were cheapies. All I have now is good stuff. Those amps will not leave my possession until I die. Then my grandsons will inherit them.

  • @bradford_shaun_murray

    @bradford_shaun_murray

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or there's the one someone loans guitars/amps/pedals etc to a mate they thought was the coolest guy, and then they have a falling out and the guy doesn't get his gear back because they're not talking anymore.

  • @pickholder6189
    @pickholder61897 жыл бұрын

    I am a certified Marshall repair agent here in the UK. Check the soldering on the HT fuse holder and the mains fuse holder. Its quite common for these to become a dry joint and need resoldering. Had it maybe 10 times in the last 4 years - so worth checking! ALSO make sure the wire wound resistors do not 'move' when you wiggle them slightly as these can also go the same way as the fuse holders.

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    I chopsticked every component within earshot of the HT winding down the line to the output tubes. Nothing triggered a fault. Thanks for the comment! I believe this was just a case of a voltage spike or a momentary brain fart where someone maybe tried to hit that first power chord with no load. Not sure, but I saw nothing amiss anywhere.

  • @Mirage2000H

    @Mirage2000H

    7 жыл бұрын

    If we suppose that the fuse is original, is it possible that it blew on its own after 20 years because it was used beyond the maximum design spec? It was rated at 250V but was subjected to something like 330V-ish (before rectifying)?

  • @pickholder6189

    @pickholder6189

    7 жыл бұрын

    Marshall allow for this when designing/specing. Also it could be valve bases on these - you can have an amp on soak test for 12 hours then suddenly something arcs and you can blow a fuse. I do not come across many valve amps that blow fuses for no reason.

  • @pickholder6189

    @pickholder6189

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well - a lot of time customers do not tell you the truth ! For instance - they ran the amp not plugged into a load.

  • @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204

    @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204

    7 жыл бұрын

    Arcing! Yes. My son's 2015 68 Custom Fender Twin started blowing the internal fuse. I thought ARCING! First time tech said 'twas a bad PI tube. Nope. Second time said put in the 125 v fuse instead of the 250 v. Nope. New tech changed the fuse holder to different type (increased isolation). Yup. Arcing.

  • @rich227742
    @rich2277427 жыл бұрын

    Why would anyone give your videos a thumbs down,? You do a great job at explaining and you make great quality videos. Thanks for being on KZread I enjoy the knowledge that you share with every one.

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Rich.

  • @chungaleta1234
    @chungaleta12347 жыл бұрын

    I had the "Bias drift issue" on DSLs before. Was told by a Marshall rep that boards from 1997 to 2003 were made of a material that becomes conductive. In 2003 they changed the material those boards are made of. That's why we see pre 2003 JCM2000 going for pennies on Ebay. Just subscribed. Great channel.

  • @MuscleDad420

    @MuscleDad420

    7 жыл бұрын

    chungaleta1234 Yep. I refuse the JCM2000 DSL/TSL models in my shop.

  • @chungaleta1234

    @chungaleta1234

    7 жыл бұрын

    I hear you. They are my favourite sounding amps. Bt they sure are a pain in the behind to repair. What I hate the most is the layout and the many boards they have, it is almost impossible to make readings when the amp is alive.

  • @kenzachow

    @kenzachow

    6 жыл бұрын

    Been there, two times, one did the mod (pain in the ***) and the second one got a new board from UK, best way to fix it. Now got a rocking amp! and resolder most components, everything was getting loose...

  • @robotp5543

    @robotp5543

    6 жыл бұрын

    The JCM DSL 50 watt'ers didn't have that issue. Only 100 watt versions. I have 50 watt version and no issues ever

  • @satch60
    @satch607 жыл бұрын

    I have just sat and watched a whole heap of your videos and I have literally no clue what you're talking about most of the time lol but I find them very interesting and informative and will be watching all of them in the future!

  • @matthewbond6150

    @matthewbond6150

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Michael Steven FriedlanderI'm not sure that's true.

  • @alexdunneguittff

    @alexdunneguittff

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Michael Steven Friedlander prove it, prove how hes been able to successfully repair many amps with no clue how to work on them

  • @DrWatts-bi1jv
    @DrWatts-bi1jv5 жыл бұрын

    I know this is an old video now but I thought I'd let you know that one of the most common issues with both the DSL & TSL 100's is the 16 Ohm socket. It switches the other two off when in use but when used with 8 and 4 Ohms the 16 Ohm socket cooks up and goes O/C. I replace it on sight as it can cause the output TX to fail and more commonly blown HT fuse from back EMF from the O/P TX under no load condition or obviously damaged valves. Pull the harness back and you'll see the earth terminal is cooked up. While you're at it, reflow the effects sockets and the 5W resistors for the +/- 15V supply. Regards from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @0421072
    @04210727 жыл бұрын

    Glad it works, I still learned something. Been watching Uncle Doug and your videos showed up in my recommendations. Awesome.

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glad to have you, Justin. I go way back with Uncle Doug videos too. He's the man.

  • @audiotechlabs4650

    @audiotechlabs4650

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Guitologist Uncle Doug was my first in the ampoholics world. Your approach is a little different, but just as informative. Hell boy, variety is the spice of life! We do see more of your posts. Uncle Doug put out a plethora of videos, all are gems! Just like yours! May the amp party continue! Thankz

  • @toddmatzke6231
    @toddmatzke62317 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE your videos. Thank you so much for taking all the time to create these. You are a very good teacher.

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm a horrible teacher. I curse and I forget power plugs. A good teacher is Uncle Doug and his dog Rusty. Those are the real teachers. Compared to them I'm just a bungling hack.

  • @mrslate1

    @mrslate1

    7 жыл бұрын

    I must be a fan of bungling hacks..

  • @mj-dd2fb

    @mj-dd2fb

    7 жыл бұрын

    Between "Uncle Rusty" and "Brad the Bungling Hack" I"m learning stores of info. Many thanks for the vids and effort to make them!

  • @monstrok
    @monstrok7 жыл бұрын

    Very timely! I had the same problem with a Hughes & Kettner Statesman Dual EL34. I found that the same fuse was blown. Many thanks!

  • @hairychris444
    @hairychris4447 жыл бұрын

    Having fried the output transformer of a JCM900 due to totally mismatching the outputs I had a bit of a giggle at the early part of the video. I spent >50% of the cost of the amp on fixing that one, oops. DSLs are great amps, I personally went in a different direction but I'd love one of the DSL50 heads. Really enjoying this channel as a gear nerd who has, unfortunately, had to have had a number of tube amps sorted out... some of them by tech who may not have known what they were doing even though they came well recommended! Oh, and you're a serious guitarist going by your previous videos. Awesome. EDIT: Wrote this 1/2 way through the vid. You broke out the chops at the end. Love it.

  • @legozach77584
    @legozach775846 жыл бұрын

    Just wanna say, you essentially have my dream job. I would design some amps on the side, but repairing amps, guitars, and pedals is something I'd love doing for a living

  • @martinkirbits4752

    @martinkirbits4752

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you have it yet?

  • @wifelessinphx
    @wifelessinphx6 жыл бұрын

    damn this video saved me my head was down today I saw all the tubes glowing no sound so I youtubed it and found this video.changed my fuse and it ran again thanks so much saved me a trip to the repair shop!!and of course someone else was using my amp while i was not there.

  • @soulsurferos8186
    @soulsurferos81866 жыл бұрын

    I REALLY enjoy your videos! Your instructional style is as professional as I've seen. Your approach to troubleshooting is spot on. I've learned a bunch watching your videos. Thank you so much! Also, thank you for not trying to be funny. I hate it when the host of an instructional video tries to be "cute". Besides, the AC cable part was plenty funny enough! Nice to know someone else besides me does that sort of thing! Cheers!

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    6 жыл бұрын

    haha, thanks man. Well, I do get silly at times when the spirit hits me, but yeah, I tend to be all business most of the time.

  • @Blaydrnnnr
    @Blaydrnnnr7 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. Love seeing a guy who really loves this stuff do his thing. I actually learned a few things. Bet your swamped with work huh? I have a pair of Hiwatts that could use your attention. One Biacrown, ( I freakin LOVE that amp )the other a Hylight. I also have a Fender twin that burned three resistors in a row on the effects board because my son left an uncovered "one spot" plug resting on the tip of the cord that was plugged into the return to the effects loop. Cant find anyone local to check the board to see if the traces burned, or just the resistors. Keep up the good work. We need an amp guy like you around here!!!

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well the shipping on the Fender would KILL you both ways, but the Hiwatt might be doable. Hit me up in July when I begin taking in outside work again. bradlinzy at gmail

  • @Blaydrnnnr

    @Blaydrnnnr

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gotcha. Not worried about the shipping, it has to be sent somewhere anyway, unless I want to just try to jump new resistors in their place, but lets face it, since they burned, it really needs to be diagnosed. The Hiwatts just need to be diagnosed, and see what needs to be updated to keep these babies cranking for another 40+ years. Thank you my friend, keep up the great work.

  • @JulianMerghart
    @JulianMerghart5 жыл бұрын

    The legendary - or maybe just infamous - Marshall that does it all. It has the sound of basically every Marshall ever inside 1 amp. It's an 800, 900, and a Plexi plus some metal tones all in 1. But they always blow the HT fuse and basically nobody knows why - and i'm not convinced you have figured it out either but I will keep watching. Maybe you solved the mystery!

  • @RockDrillSuite
    @RockDrillSuite5 жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised no one has commented “a blown fuse is the symptom of the problem, not the fix”. I realize we may never know now but if that’s really all it was I would be curious as to why it blew. And if I’m the customer, he didn’t even try to simply replace the fuse? Before paying shipping costs and repair costs I would at least try the fuse but again, I would have guessed it would have blown again. Apparently not in this case I guess. Very strange.

  • @audiotechlabs4650
    @audiotechlabs46507 жыл бұрын

    Brad, I think one thing that sets you a part from other techs, is you have a practical approach to what you do! Some techs would have to hook up a sine wave generator and a dummy load and an oscilloscope. You have to sometimes but just a guitar cord and a speaker can be very effective in the troubleshooting process. I have used that simple method for as long as I have been building and servicing amps and guitars. I have a 1-12 JCM 800 Lead Series with 6550s instead of EL 34s and I am debating whether to convert it to EL34s. Tube wise the EL34s may be a bit cheaper to replace, the 6550s are a bit louder(this amp is too loud anyway) and cleaner. If I alter the tone stack, it could be used as a bass amp. Great video! Hope it don't come back later with some other worse problem! Thankz

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    If it comes back, it should be for some other fault. I wiggled and prodded every component remotely connected to the HT winding and everything was rock solid. Go figure. I power cycled the amp many times and played through it for a good hour without issue, even with the fast blow fuse.

  • @MitchelYoung
    @MitchelYoung7 жыл бұрын

    The British call voltage electrical tension. HT= high tension = high voltage.

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for pointing that out. You're right. I think I failed to mention that. I've always viewed voltage potential are more like a waterfall. How high is the waterfall? It's x volts high. The waterfall itself is formed by resistance.

  • @michaelpolutta3131

    @michaelpolutta3131

    7 жыл бұрын

    And the amount of water over the fall is (literally) the current.

  • @Justin.Franks

    @Justin.Franks

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've always liked the water main analogy. Water pressure is voltage, amount of flow is current, and the pipe diameter is resistance.

  • @rocketPower047

    @rocketPower047

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheGuitologist in electrical engineering, we had a class where we modeled water distribution and mechanical systems as well as electrical circuits. You guys are spot on. Voltage is Pressure, current is flow and reservoirs acted like capacitors.

  • @cgavin1

    @cgavin1

    4 жыл бұрын

    In much the same way that American celebrities call extra-judicial murder a photo op.

  • @ringostarr4520
    @ringostarr45207 жыл бұрын

    Also look for the note... If you look really carefully at the back of the amp where 16, 8 and 4 ohm jack outputs are located. It will read "Note: 16 Ohm Output Jack negates use of others." You can either run a 4 or 8 ohm load single output or parallel two cabs together. For example two 16 ohm cabs ran parallel then you set it to 8 ohms and plug in each cab. I always just ran mine with a 16 ohm single cab and at that point it makes no difference what the 4ohm/8ohm switch is set to.

  • @ahambrahmas
    @ahambrahmas3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man. Was able to fix my amp in no time (and only for $5)

  • @charlesshaw9090
    @charlesshaw90907 жыл бұрын

    Hi Brad. I love your guitar noodling. Fast fingers Freddie! What was the bias on the valves?

  • @PoJoWo
    @PoJoWo7 жыл бұрын

    I'd have to look back at the schematic to see if the thought I've had would carry any water, but I watched this early this morning and I guess the conundrum has been ticking away in the back of my head. I recently repaired an unusual rotating speaker setup of a friends with a separate preamp that was blowing fuses and I found the source of the issue to be a relay stuck in an energised state. Different scenario and problem but I was just thinking about the way that channel 1 sprung into life as you brought it up. Anyhow.... Hope the weekend is being good to you sir.

  • @Albee213
    @Albee2136 жыл бұрын

    Marshall cabs have a duel input that allows for 16 or 4 ohm mono and 8/8ohm stereo. Have always run mine in 4ohm if the amp is capable.

  • @Foghornish

    @Foghornish

    4 жыл бұрын

    Totally. No one seems to know this. Rehearsal rooms are full of them. Folk think that if the switch on the cab is to the right and plugging into the right hand input is 16ohms. It doesn not. Its 8ohms. Hence why many use the 16ohm out on their amp. 16ohm out into 8ohm input = DISASTER. Switch should ALWAYS be to flicked to the left. That way the right input is 16ohms and the left if 4ohms.

  • @user-qt3cy3uk7m
    @user-qt3cy3uk7m2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video!!! Thank you so much!

  • @jenniferwhitewolf3784
    @jenniferwhitewolf37846 жыл бұрын

    I have seen tube era Ampex boards, 350, 351, etc, turn conductive on the surface. You have to pull all the parts and really scrub them with Scotch Bright.. Same thing with blue and brown board version. Real pain to restore those when the boards are goofy.

  • @tubejoust
    @tubejoust7 жыл бұрын

    i have a TSL102 that did the exact thing to me. when i first got it i did a stress play test and it popped its main fuse. I checked everything over three or 4 times and couldn't find a smoking gun. I put meters on the bias voltages monitoring them looking for bias drift. Ran it for a few hours and nothing. solid. Just waiting for it to happen again. :(

  • @alfredarsiniega2224
    @alfredarsiniega22247 жыл бұрын

    I have a tsl 100 head.bought new mother board, but still bad volume.resoldered everthing. Input was lose and now works great.

  • @TonyClarkGuitar
    @TonyClarkGuitar7 жыл бұрын

    Marshall 1960A and B 4X12's have 16 ohm drivers and can go either 4 or 16 ohm. I always ran mine 16 ohm, but some guys run 4. That might be was this guy was doing. I had a TSL 100 from 1998 and I had to replace the main board when mine started having the bias drift issue. It never sounded the same so I sold it.

  • @johnsimms3957
    @johnsimms39577 жыл бұрын

    Did you like the sound of this amp? I have two Marshall TSL60 amps and I love the tone.

  • @drewfitz11
    @drewfitz115 жыл бұрын

    Any experience with JCM2000s having effects loop issues? Mine will still produce output when the master is zero, and that extra output is very treble-ish, harsh and distorted. Only happens when I'm using the fx loop

  • @kimrapley3721
    @kimrapley37215 жыл бұрын

    I am going to guess the fuse blew because the speaker load didn’t match the 4 ohm output on the amp he had it set on. It’s important to get your calculation right. Matched speakers parallel is half the impedance and speakers in series get added together. So many people fail to calculate properly with multiple speaker cofigurations.

  • @poot111111
    @poot1111117 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing you have, my TSL 100 is in getting new tubes. I'm watching your videos and missing it. BTW what was the bias?

  • @Stasisofseasons
    @Stasisofseasons4 жыл бұрын

    I have a JCM 2000 401 which is just the 40 watt versos! I had to have it serviced but she's been ok since then, so watching this in interesting to me.

  • @Stasisofseasons

    @Stasisofseasons

    4 жыл бұрын

    and I just looked, mines a 2002, I got it used.

  • @IplayMusic2
    @IplayMusic23 жыл бұрын

    At 5:32, I noticed the white (W11) and white-grayish (W13) wires from the transformer to the W11 and W13 on the board. On my exact same amp, someone worked on it and reversed the wires to where the more true white one is going to the W13 terminal while the off white one is going to the W11. Will the reversal of these wires make a difference? Thanks for making the videos. They are very helpful.

  • @stevegarcia1796
    @stevegarcia17965 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir for your video, but you really got me on your Guitar, ( love your pic'n )

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Steve!

  • @mavrim7
    @mavrim76 жыл бұрын

    I have a Marshall JVM1 1 watt tube head with an intermittent volume reduction problem. Amp plays as it should, then suddenly drops down very low in volume with random static noise. Replaced every tube, desoldered tube sockets and then resoldered with nice shiny fillets. Still randomly low in volume or good, depends on its mood. Problem happens on both clean and gain channels. Tried checking for loose connections. Thought transformer leads were loose, so I soldered the wires onto the transformer terminals. Jumpered effects loop. Cleaned all jacks. Called Marshall and they said to signal trace it. I'll need to get my scope out of storage to do that. Guess I might need to go that route. I was able to get a schematic for the amp. Thought output transformer might intermittently be shorting and causing volume drop. Marshall tech said to check the low wattage switch. Still nothing. Even touched up solder to most of the components. Baffled? Heaters remain glowing. Checked high voltage and had 240vdc. Need to take voltage readings on all tubes when good, then again when it drops volume. Any ideas?

  • @underpressureman
    @underpressureman6 жыл бұрын

    So, I just got a new(used) Marshall Lead 100 Mosfet head and was wondering if you could service/modify some things on it for me?

  • @plummetplum
    @plummetplum4 жыл бұрын

    Hi I have the 50 watt version. I love my JCM2000. However since using a noise suppressor in the FX loop I've realised the built in reverb must be pre FX loop. Which means the reverb tail gets unnaturally cut off when the noise gate kicks in. This is a real shame. I know the work around is to use a reverb pedal however I was wondering as a circuit man,, can you confirm this to be true, seems odd to have reverb pre FX and also is there a mod I can get to change this? Thank You.

  • @DeadKoby
    @DeadKoby7 жыл бұрын

    It's less stressful that way right?

  • @adio123456789
    @adio1234567893 жыл бұрын

    I've got a similar issue but the mains fuse keeps blowing. Without a lot of knowledge I think it's due to the power transformer as I'm only getting 5.6ohm across both primary coils as it's wired for 240. But this would give a current of about 42 amps. Do you have any recommendations on something else to look at/test?

  • @mikenicholson7465
    @mikenicholson74656 жыл бұрын

    My TSL100's clean channel has a loud constant hum and the volume knob does nothing but turn the hum volume up. Hum is present and loud even if volume knob is on zero. Somehow all the actual clean channel volume is from my gain knob now; even if the volume knob is on zero turning up the gain gives me huge volume albeit with hum. Do you know what is causing this problem?

  • @rangerdoc1029
    @rangerdoc10296 жыл бұрын

    The hardest diagnosis to make when troubleshooting anything is that there's nothing wrong.

  • @watkinscopicat
    @watkinscopicat7 жыл бұрын

    i recently blew the mains fuse in my Laney LC30, by putting in old Mullard EL84 tubes, turns out they're wired differently to current EL84s and the Laney can't handle em. since then i can't get any sound out of the amp with previously good tubes (jj), also replaced the output transformer thinking that was blown, not sure what is wrong!??

  • @s8nlx661
    @s8nlx6615 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure if you've done this yet but going through hundreds of videos, trying to find it's a pain in the ass. But I have a Marshall mg100hdfx makes a god awful super loud noise when turned on. It also makes a loud pop when turned off. This happened out of nowhere ands only few years old. However if I unplug the cord to speaker from the head and then turn it on and put the cord back in once on it's good to go. Trying to find out what the hell is up. It still works fine and unplugging and plugging back in works but id like to figure this out regardless

  • @SelfBias101
    @SelfBias1017 жыл бұрын

    I wonder why the HT fuse is rated for only 250 Volts as the HT supply is likely around 400+ VAC. Do they use a smaller rating beecause arcing inside a failed fuse would be less of an issue due to it being in the AC part?

  • @EasyHeat
    @EasyHeat2 жыл бұрын

    Now THIS is the amazing content that I freakin' miss & love my dude. Just sayin'. .

  • @juliansedor7101
    @juliansedor7101 Жыл бұрын

    Is it okay (with rebiasing of course) to replace the EL34 tubes that a JCM2000 uses with a set of KT77 tubes? I've heard they're interchangeable but I would want to know for sure if it would be okay before I ever tried it.

  • @lyndonbaldwin
    @lyndonbaldwin5 жыл бұрын

    That is some tone Brad... xx

  • @rareform6747
    @rareform67475 жыл бұрын

    jcm 2000 dsl 100 input jack problems , intermittent full power too real low , have to turn the input jack sometimes ?

  • @RockDrillSuite
    @RockDrillSuite5 жыл бұрын

    I fully realize I may not get a reply (haha) but Brad, I have a Marshall DSL40C that’s just over 1 year old. I love the UltraGain channel and have the gain around 8. It started making this intermittent huge volume swell with a high frequency squeal followed by a nasal tone. This only happens after 15 minutes of playing and the amp getting warm. I replaced ALL of the tubes, biased the EL34s but it does the same thing minus the high frequency squeal. The Marshall service tech states he finds no problem and the issue is that my gain setting is too high. Other DSL40C owners had the same issue and supposedly found a faulty blue colored capacitor. I tried to point out to the tech that C25 has black residue on it but he claims nothing is wrong. Does this sound like an oscillating circuit or a negative feedback issue? I realize it would be difficult to even comment on this but I thought I’d try. I’m picking it up tomorrow and trying another service center. PS I can recreate the symptom by simply adding a loop pedal in the front and 10 minutes later it shows up. Thanks and if you don’t reply, no worries.

  • @lawrencel500
    @lawrencel5004 жыл бұрын

    I have a TSL that has a problem in the bias, but different from the other TSL that Bias goes up until the amp collapses, in my TSL the bias goes down to close to 2mv and then goes back to normal 80mv. This happens sometimes and lasts a few seconds between descent until normalization. Any help?

  • @waynegram8907
    @waynegram89072 жыл бұрын

    What is the capacitor C2 doing in the HT High Tension circuit? What is C2 filtering out

  • @LeeKirkman88
    @LeeKirkman885 жыл бұрын

    Fuses can just burn out naturally sometimes due to age the fuse wire just gets weak. Just the same as lightbuilbs blow.

  • @faceindisguise85
    @faceindisguise852 жыл бұрын

    Marshall cabinets can be used in either 16 ohm or 4 ohm. I use mine single cabinet at 4 ohm.

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin14 жыл бұрын

    I like that you demo'd it through a potato. You know, just so the mystery of its tone can remain as-if through a veil.

  • @therugburnz
    @therugburnz4 жыл бұрын

    I've had impedance switches fall to bits on Marshalls and Peaveys in the 2000's a few times. They were very different types of switches. I don't think they were made by the same company. The PV amp and most of its parts were of Chinese manufacturers. The Marshall I don't recall, I just assumed that some parts came from not England even if the amp was.

  • @An_Idiot_in_the_Wild
    @An_Idiot_in_the_Wild7 жыл бұрын

    I had some issues with my Marshall DSL100, and symptoms were different, i was losing my tube glow. It was intermittent, amp would work for a while then go bad. Infuriating. It turned out the wires coming from transformer had a whole bunch of spade connectors that could not grip onto the lugs. Totally loose. So they were in place, but the connection was literally just metal touching metal, no clamping pressure. I just got some pliers, squished the spade connectors to close them up a little, then push them back onto the lugs and hooray they gripped tightly. Problem solved. In your case, you haved glowing valves so obviously the circuit to your valve heaters is ok, but i'm just wondering if your issue might've been some loose spade connectors on wires going to the high-voltage side of your tubes. I don't know much at all about tube amps, but what i do know is my amp looked like it had never been worked on, those spade connectors were loose from the factory, and I had half a dozen all loose as hell. So, loose spade connectors can be a dog of a problem and i guess depending on which ones are loose they could cause a variety of issues.

  • @underpressureman
    @underpressureman6 жыл бұрын

    hey would you be into modding a marshall mosfet lead 100?

  • @Muiretta
    @Muiretta6 жыл бұрын

    I almost bought one of these. Got a quick one, how do you tell which is a good one of these JCM2000s and which is well, garbage???????? I seen a few in Guitar center simply not have any sound come out.... Also one EL34 simply loose power or illumination out of no place.

  • @manawarrior2010
    @manawarrior20107 жыл бұрын

    Hi. The HT fuse went on my old 74 superlead when I used a 4x12 with a blown driver. Only ever goes then. May be that the family member was using the wrong ohms for the cab and it blew the HT. Anyway, really enjoy your channel. Lots of fun stuff most of which I don't fully understand yet but you're teaching me lots. So cheers.

  • @johnmiller9219
    @johnmiller92192 жыл бұрын

    Brad i have this amp. The chasis and Trannys have some surface rust how do i remove?

  • @thromboid
    @thromboid7 жыл бұрын

    I'm wondering what connector W12 (7:00) is for, and why it isn't connected. Enjoying your videos!

  • @glenwhatley4125
    @glenwhatley41253 жыл бұрын

    My suggestion on all amps esp NPF ones esp where fuse blows for apparently no reason is to tap the power tubes to see if there are any warped elements like the grids that might sag and short to other elements when hot under stress or even cold sometimes. I've had many tubes that like to behave until they're physically 'challenged' (;- ). Also true with prank tubes...

  • @montay-o6z
    @montay-o6z Жыл бұрын

    what model of Variac transformer you are using .. thanks

  • @jross68052
    @jross680527 жыл бұрын

    I think there are also fuses on the circuit board

  • @jcwar6753
    @jcwar67534 жыл бұрын

    Great upload, +1 sub!

  • @nevillegoddard4966
    @nevillegoddard49665 ай бұрын

    Dangit it's only a stoopid fuse Brad? And I was hopin for piston stickin out the side of the block! Too easy! Maybe the next one!

  • @gbowne1
    @gbowne17 жыл бұрын

    tag with Year of manufacture also has end of warranty period?? 2007 maybe?

  • @erikpriest
    @erikpriest6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Brad! I have a JMC 2000 TCL 122. The main pc board is the version 5 of this amp. Marshall has stated the epoxy they used becomes conductive over normal use. I also know you mentioned this in the video. Does it just become conductive around the tubes and the high voltage or all over the board? Is it worth trying to fix the board? What blows out when the bias goes nutz? Any suggestions? Love the videos. Keep it up!

  • @terrywilson4118

    @terrywilson4118

    6 жыл бұрын

    If your bias goes out of wack, worst case you risk blowing the primary winding in the output transformer which means $$$..not to mention killing the EL34's. The main PCB can be modified to overcome the problems with board conductivity and bias runaway as i have done it successfully, but i dont recommend doing it as it quite involved. Unless you are experienced in valve amplifier repair and well versed in its operation dont even remove the back cover !! Have a new board installed by a experienced tech...these amps run at DC potentials of 300volts plus and can kill !! They are extremely dangerous to work on...Do NOT run it without the recommended rated HT fuse installed....

  • @xxxxenoxxx
    @xxxxenoxxx7 жыл бұрын

    The dsl range is notorious for blowing the high tension fuse.

  • @juanh9350
    @juanh93506 жыл бұрын

    I've heard this amp fails, something in the desing of the PCB, I want to know if marshall corrected it and what years of production are safe to buy, please.

  • @haplozetetic9519

    @haplozetetic9519

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think they changed the pcb in a revision at some point. Later versions of this amp were less likely to have this problem and even most of the early ones did not show any problems with this.

  • @paulpugh5315

    @paulpugh5315

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you can buy a diy mod from amp parts uk for runaway bias syndrome....👍

  • @Hungry_Hunter
    @Hungry_Hunter7 жыл бұрын

    These DSL series amps suffer from dry joints worse than any other amp I've worked on in 30years. The interconnect wires between the PCBs usually need resoldering . The bias supply caps always need replacing too.

  • @DrWatts-bi1jv

    @DrWatts-bi1jv

    5 жыл бұрын

    Negative good buddy. I couldn't disagree more...

  • @yummygummy2133
    @yummygummy21334 жыл бұрын

    How did you learn how to do this, I must know 😭

  • @angrytroll27
    @angrytroll276 жыл бұрын

    If his marshall is like mine the stereo selector box in the cab is dead and hes had his cab hardwired and had to use 4 ohms

  • @rogerbaker5112
    @rogerbaker51123 жыл бұрын

    I have a jcm2000 401 combo which are known to have a problem with overheating. Would the 50 watt head have the same overheating problem?

  • @johnmiller9219

    @johnmiller9219

    2 жыл бұрын

    no. The DSL 50 is the best one they came out with. Jeff Beck used one for years

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic3 жыл бұрын

    Buy one like this or build an amp?

  • @bigsauce1116
    @bigsauce11164 жыл бұрын

    I'm really looking into buying one of these amps. Any tips/things to look out for? Also would you recommend I don't have it shipped to me?

  • @wastewoodrockers5526

    @wastewoodrockers5526

    4 жыл бұрын

    Big Sauce Persoanlly I would always pick an amp up yourself if you are buying it. It means you get to try it out and make sure it works before you buy it etc. I've had a few bad experiences with getting Amps shipped to me, so I'd say it's more trouble than it's worth. That's just my personal experience though.

  • @bigsauce1116

    @bigsauce1116

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wastewoodrockers5526 noted, thanks allot.

  • @teacuppermike2568

    @teacuppermike2568

    3 жыл бұрын

    The DSL sounds great, but the models made before 2003 had some issues. Try to look for DSLs made from 2003 on.

  • @kenb.1829
    @kenb.18296 жыл бұрын

    I find myself intangibly unsettled by having Johnny Cash watch me watch you test driving this Marshall....

  • @johnny96888
    @johnny968882 жыл бұрын

    not sure if this amp is turned up all the way or not, but it doesn't seem to have the quality of the older amps you play.

  • @brpadington
    @brpadington6 жыл бұрын

    These look like a nightmare to work on. I am absolutely shocked there is that much going on in that circuit. I bet the JVM looks ten times worse.

  • @TannerHoytFooty
    @TannerHoytFooty6 жыл бұрын

    Just got a Laney head today, tubes glowed but didn't make noise. Think it might have been damaged during shipping. Thoughts?

  • @peacefulruler1

    @peacefulruler1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tanner Hoyt Check the fuses, then the tubes to see if any are dead or loose, then the output transformer with an ohmmeter (amp shut off.)

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm15 жыл бұрын

    I love a reverb that activates a week later 😂

  • @benperry490
    @benperry4907 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the video ``I just love the sound of a marshall...question ,w\hat gives the different amp brands their signature sound? power tubes? pre amp? a mix of both? type or capacitors?...I see p[people make marshall clones but they don't seem to sound like the marshall they were cloned from, same with Fender amps ...or is that just my eras fooling me because I see the brand name and associate it subconsciously with a sound, thanks

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    A lot of it is the shaping of the tone in the preamp, V1 stage being most important, and the tone stack. People often cite output tubes as a major factor, but it's less important than tone stack, and even more specifically, the amount of midrange frequencies are expressed.

  • @chris929rr7
    @chris929rr77 жыл бұрын

    HI Brad, HELP!! I have one of these thing except the 100w TSL version and it makes like a farty oscillating sound on the clean channel? Whats up with that?

  • @chris929rr7

    @chris929rr7

    7 жыл бұрын

    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated as I got this for AUD$500! Usually it costs $2,500 over here so id love to get it working well. So far all I have done is use some contact cleaner in the jacks and switched etc on the front of the amp. That seemed to work for a little while, now its back and really pissing me off. I am reluctant to just put new tubes in it and hope for the best?

  • @peacefulruler1

    @peacefulruler1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Here’s the problem: one of your phase inverter resistors popped from a voltage supply surge. These are the resistors on the plates of the last 12AX7.

  • @jfonlinenow1
    @jfonlinenow13 жыл бұрын

    The newer 1960 cabinets have switching on back for 16 or 4 ohms mono and 8 ohms stereo. I use mine mono at 4 ohms. Much beefier 🥩

  • @lroy730
    @lroy7307 жыл бұрын

    Dude you play guitar Right Handed !! Don't poke your left hand in the Amp Ever !!!

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    I understand your fear. It's probably good advice. For the record, I'm not really putting my hand in the amp when I'm pointing. Most of the time I'm hovering way above the amp and just pointing. I've noticed sometimes it looks like I'm almost touching components, but it's an optical illusion. Moving the probes though, yeah, I'm not into shutting down the amp every time I move probes. I appreciate your comment, it comes from a good place.

  • @davidhaddock5949
    @davidhaddock59496 жыл бұрын

    I think that the design and component selection is marginal on those amps, I know that the main power transformers work hard and normally run quite hot, combine that with a 1 A fuse that should probably be a 1.5A fuse, I have had to replace power transformers on these amps, so I believe it is just poor choice in component selection.

  • @Ammo150
    @Ammo1504 жыл бұрын

    What amp tubes does this amp use? Thank You

  • @Ammo150

    @Ammo150

    4 жыл бұрын

    DMR Productions thank you

  • @userPrehistoricman
    @userPrehistoricman7 жыл бұрын

    How come you were measuring DC voltage on your meter? Shouldn't the output of the transformer be AC?

  • @StopMoColorado

    @StopMoColorado

    6 жыл бұрын

    Prehistoricman - The Transformer transforms A/C current into DC, which is what the rest of the innards use. A/C is used for long distance transmission for reasons of safety and efficiency, but most gear really needs DC to run...hence the Transformer. Thank Nicola Tesla for all the cool stuff the A/C system + step-up transformers (not to mention resonant transformers) gives us!

  • @silasfatchett5693

    @silasfatchett5693

    6 жыл бұрын

    The AC output from the HT winding on the transformer is rectified to become the DC on the HT line. Finding DC on the HT line shows that the HT winding must be OK.

  • @misterhat5823
    @misterhat58235 жыл бұрын

    Over 400Vdc for a 250VAC fuse?

  • @bb_lz9790

    @bb_lz9790

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep. I don't think anyone makes a fuse in that size rated for tube amp plate voltages...or with a DC rating. I know it makes a difference, but it's commonly done.

  • @jacobbockover1628
    @jacobbockover16284 жыл бұрын

    This is all making me afraid to risk buying a dsl. Though these are all older

  • @drewjohnson4794

    @drewjohnson4794

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm betting inside a brand new one it looks about the same. Anything from the 90's isn't really that old. The boards are the problem in any modern amp which 90's stuff is. Not much different than today's. The really old ones are all hand wired and much easier to fix. You want an older one. This one wouldn't be considered older. Even though it's over 20 years old.

  • @johnbowling4977
    @johnbowling49775 жыл бұрын

    If you dont have the ohms swich right it will blow a fuse or a tube every time

  • @bb_lz9790

    @bb_lz9790

    4 жыл бұрын

    If one is using a 16 ohm cabinet with that amp, the position of the impedance selector switch is irrelevant. It only applies when one is using the "4 & 8 ohm PARALLEL JACKS".

  • @Iam_Dunn
    @Iam_Dunn7 жыл бұрын

    I got sucked into buying one of these glorious pieces of shit from a pawn shop for $600(ca). Thought I was getting a wicked deal. It turned on and made sound at the shop so I bought it without really giving it a good tryout. Well 20 minutes into my first set with it the fucker started to cook... LOL Had to replace R7 and R8 resistors. Oh well, I dumped it at another pawn shop for $500... Lesson learned, if it seems too good a price, there's probably a reason... LOL Been using an MA-50h going on 3yrs.

  • @robotp5543

    @robotp5543

    6 жыл бұрын

    the JCM2000 DSL 50's are a bit more reliable . Dont have that Thermal runaway issue like the 100's and TSL100's. Some solder joints need to be inspected and re-wetted for good measure, but mine is behaving itself.

  • @scratchback2001
    @scratchback20015 жыл бұрын

    YA FARGOT TA PLARG IN DA POWA?! THAT'S AN EXECUTION BACED AFENCE! LOL LOL

  • @alfredarsiniega2224
    @alfredarsiniega22244 жыл бұрын

    U didn't check the bias, these amp have a bad bias drift. It would pop a fuse if the bias drifted high. They need new boards to correct this. So HE'LL BE BACK!

  • @imannonymous7707
    @imannonymous77075 жыл бұрын

    I would never borrow an insturment except for maybe to pass a guitar around the kitchen for a tune and right back .i dont want the responsability.. its just common sense you break it you buy it And i cringe a little bit every time somebody asks me to even play mine

  • @timcobb1752
    @timcobb17523 жыл бұрын

    I know the likelihood of you reading this comment is very very low. But here it is, I have a marshall jcm 2000 dsl 50...... All of the comments online made by repair personalities who are always talking about the JCM 2000 bias drift issue make one major flaw in their statements.... THE AMP BIAS DRIFT ONLY AFFECTS DSL 100s and TSL 100s made prior to 2004. The issue that is created by just saying the jcm 2000s have this problem is that people believe the other 4 or 5 variants of the jcm 2000 series amps have the same problem.... THEY DO NOT! Thanks for making me waste my time trying to look and see how much a replacement pcb board that doesn't exist for a problem it will never have as it does NOT even have the circuit!!!!!!

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get that information it only affects DSL and TSL 100s? You don’t know that.

  • @timcobb1752

    @timcobb1752

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@TheGuitologist either you or about a half dozen other amp techs are wrong. Apperently the dsl 50 which I own does not even contain the affected pathway, this I discovered after looking to see how much a kit to fix the motherboard should it go bad would set me back. There are only kits floating about for tsl100s, and dsl 100s. So I started looking at other forums.... And there are a lot of other techs saying that it only affects the 100s made prior to 2004. I would give you a link or two, but that was over a very very long bad week ago for me, and I just don't have the energy to try to retrace my steps at the moment.

  • @jarrydee2799
    @jarrydee27995 жыл бұрын

    Damn that would suck to send you amp to a tech and it only be a blown fuse..lol Something I would do..

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic Жыл бұрын

    I got a dsl 100 im not too happy with

  • @russellhltn1396
    @russellhltn13967 жыл бұрын

    These kinds of things always give me a less than great feeling to send back. That fuse didn't look like it went from stress, but a major overload. Short of customer abuse, I'd be afraid that there's still a gremlin in there I failed to find that will come back and bite me. But if you can't find it, you can't find it. You have to move on.

  • @TheGuitologist

    @TheGuitologist

    7 жыл бұрын

    I poked around on every component associated with the HT winding. There was just nothing to go on, no indications of a problem anywhere. I might have said "bad solder" or something, but chopsticking everything revealed nothing. I can only do so much for the bench fee. Pulling boards would mean more $$$.

  • @russellhltn1396

    @russellhltn1396

    7 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I fully understand. And while some of that may be part of your normal checkout, I suspect you had a that uneasy feeling as well - or you might not have spent as much time looking.

  • @TheRedneckAtheist

    @TheRedneckAtheist

    7 жыл бұрын

    Besides, even though it's quite rare, some fuses just give up even if they're nowhere near their rated capacity. It's what happens when a device is explicitly designed to fail.

  • @russellhltn1396

    @russellhltn1396

    7 жыл бұрын

    @TheRedneckAtheist, true, but in that case the fuse just has a crack or has melted ends. The one in the video was blackened. It died violently - apparently from something well in excess of it's ratings. If it showed signs of "minor" failure, it'd chalk it up to a weak fuse and move on.

  • @TheRedneckAtheist

    @TheRedneckAtheist

    7 жыл бұрын

    But the fact that a fast blow fuse is stable in the equipment says otherwise. There are other modes of failure that can cause a glass fuse to be blackened and still have continuity, one of them is a seal failure causing oxidation. Another way is a very slight and very brief over amperage that doesn't blow the fuse but strains the filament.

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