Earth rod installation for fuseboard | Thomas Nagy
We are installing an earth rod for a fuseboard upgrade at customer's house in Milton Keynes. Dave has done a very neat job on this fuseboard - this is how a properly installed fuseboard should look like. We also cracked out our new Bosch gear, which quite frankly is very, very posh!
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30 years as an electrician in the US....hilarious to see electricians in the UK run into the same problems⚡️⚡️😂all the best to you bro👍🎸
Who else doesn’t know anything about electrics but watches these videos anyway?
@robertrosenberg
5 жыл бұрын
There are a few of us. I'm about to rewire my house after a massive (electrical) fire. I'm a lawyer not an electrician but I want to know what is going on in my house rewire
@xcbkxjake8717
5 жыл бұрын
Thought he was a plumber haha 😂
@RyannH
5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Digital Marketer and I bought ITS tools just because I thought they looked good haha
@philipkelly9753
5 жыл бұрын
ME
@wigsdanger
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Rosenberg twat
As an Aussie I'm shocked at the amount of swearing, shocked how little there is. Don't change because of a few bloody sooks. Keep up the good work.
@mitchbelectronics
5 жыл бұрын
AJQ I here ya winging poms I say 😂🇦🇺
@billsmith56
5 жыл бұрын
Sooks? I'm in the USA and I'm not familiar with this term?
@Andrew.quigley
5 жыл бұрын
@@billsmith56 Means people who complains, whines or a cry baby.
@Andrew.quigley
5 жыл бұрын
@@TELE6220 Maybe some Aussie's did. But not me, cricket is so boring. But great job to England. Congratulations
@farmerdave7965
4 жыл бұрын
@@billsmith56 I'm a U.S.A. electrician and ring circuits make my head explode. What good are they ?
I'm a 3rd year apprentice in Galway Ireland I've every single one of your videos watched and every tip or trick you've given has been so handy perfect example . In a video you done a while back you explained your methods of wiring domestic smokes in the same mcb as light because if the light broke u would have to fix the smokes to I explained that to my tutor in college and he said how it was very good practice and I done it in my fuse board for an exam and I got a distinction !!!! I just want to say thanks for all the tips and keep up the good work 😊👍 ...... I can know understand to why you like Renault trafics as I bought one lately myself such great comfort and space 😁😁
@richardwalsh5882
5 жыл бұрын
It is indeed good practice, but don't forget that I.S. 3218 is a different standard to BS 5839-6. Make sure you are complying with Irish Standard 3218 as well as ET101 (soon to be replaced with I.S. 10101).
@nathangatenby5744
5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t think they had electricity in Ireland yet
@MrMcIvor
5 жыл бұрын
@@nathangatenby5744 original
@BestUserNameUK
5 жыл бұрын
Gaillimh!👍🏻
@rkan2
5 жыл бұрын
In which video was he explaining this method?
People that are saying don’t swear have obviously never been on a proper work site 😪😂
@zappedsparky
5 жыл бұрын
The device in question appears to be non functional. Worksite translation: fucking fuckers fucked :)
@raychambers3646
5 жыл бұрын
@@zappedsparky could also mean its broke,old chap! Lol.
@jackkenealy4516
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone swears on site what fucking pleb says don’t swear on site
@UberAlphaSirus
5 жыл бұрын
Snoeflakes.
@MarkMcDaniel
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
Gets into van... “God I’m f#cked” then “Good morning” 😂 for a moment there I thought you put in a 12hr day!
@jasonhilton5005
5 жыл бұрын
😂
@iangoodchild2897
5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhilton5005 sparkys are a feking disgrace, the mess they leave behind them
I am glad you are now more sensible to customers expectations of you solving their problems with minimum disruption... it is all about managing expectations if you want that particular job.
As an electrician from the US, it's insane to me how differently stuff is done and the lingo used
Re the breakers you didn't know what to do with.. I've mounted din rail on my van backdoor and just pop them on there
Like it or not you are now a role model to many young electricians starting out with their electrical careers. Your attitude to safe isolation and condescending comments about electricians who do isolate are what perpetuate the expectations that electricians should put their lives in danger for the convenience of profit.
It’s true the real world is not always as straight forward as the book says!
Top Tip!!! noticed you use a steering wheel lock "perfect for the thieves to use to snap you steering column" rotate by 90 degrees so arm fits between windscreen and a column.
Do what I do stick a length of din rail in the back of your van mounted to the side and just stick a decent amount of old breakers on it 👍🏻👍🏻
@fuzedtv
5 жыл бұрын
TC_electrician thought every spark did this? Saved my bacon a few times
I’ve actually been refreshing my sub box so much toaday waiting for this video😂😂
Great idea with the isolator after the meter. The amount of boards i've changed and never thought to do this. I've always used henley blocks, but this is a much better idea. Will be doing this from now on.
@johnxenofontos1058
5 жыл бұрын
It's part of the iee regulation 18th edition to install an double pole isolation disconnector after the meter.
@chalky762
5 жыл бұрын
@@johnxenofontos1058 what regulation?
Yeah, same same. Safe isolation is great, but you can't just turn stuff off when other people are trying to get work done too. Love the Bosch stuff, I have exactly the same hammer drill, it's great.
Couldn’t that earth rod connection get damaged by someone kicking or tripping over it as they walk past?
@thetruth5210
5 жыл бұрын
@David Fitzpatrick If there was there would be problems with grounding all over North America.😉
@stanleygardiner1780
4 жыл бұрын
That’s why they invented earth boxes that recess into the ground. Keeps the rod clear from being a trip hazard plus useful for testing.
@almilhouse9059
4 жыл бұрын
Very true, we would always fit flush into the ground. If it means a little more cutting and cement after that's the way I done it.
Another great video. From one of the few tradesmen still doing whats best not just doing it to code but going above and beyond.
i agree with safe isolation for people who dont understand electrical installations etc, but we are in the trade and know how to work safely with it live from time to time , just treat it with respect and never be complacent
@raychambers3646
5 жыл бұрын
Having worked in a lot of live situations even inside cabinets surrounded by bus bars ,no you can't turn that off it supplies everything that's essential, but the thing that catches you out is usually something silly! I had to fish a cable out of some trunking and managed to grab a broken, live open end,how I laughed not.
@johnxenofontos1058
5 жыл бұрын
And never never assume that the circuit is dead,always treat the circuit as live always until proved dead.
@bluddyrowdy8757
5 жыл бұрын
called " Test before you Touch ", is a standard mantra for Sparkies ..
@raychambers3646
5 жыл бұрын
@@johnxenofontos1058 I was fishing a cable out that i was running(i.e dead) the one touched was already inslalled , the trunking was 6x6 so loads of singles I just found the wrong one!
@raychambers3646
5 жыл бұрын
@@bluddyrowdy8757 another one is when someone says it's dead, still check take nothing for granted, stay safe.
Nice looking board good work Dave.
Great video Tom. It inspires me more and give me the drive that I need. As well as learning to hold your nuts better so they don't fall off
One of the best starts to your videos 😂 we’ve all been there.
That is a beautifully finished fuseboard. I hope mine look as neat as that.
I've got the 36v bosch sds, couldn't be without it now, since I bought it I've changed evrything to bosch, the 18v, 10ltr hoover is very handy.
I work in refrigeration and its the same thing.. 3 phase panels, live, some contactors running compressor motors pulling 2/300 amps.. Still gotta open the panel and work on other components when the chiller is running.. its why we do 4 years training before we're compitent enough to know we wont fry ourselves
@mozismobile
5 жыл бұрын
Darwin also helps with the education process :)
Instead of putting old breakers in a box, how about putting a length of din rail screwed inside the van on the wall, so you can simply pop them on and also easier to see what you've actually got.
hell yeah, new video!
for those earth rods would angle grinding the tip into a point or a chisel point help with deflecting off rubble/bricks?
Great video Thomas! 😁
Excellent videos love them
I love this channel more when you say it as it is, I’ve just done my ab workout with laughter alone. 😂👍🏻👌🏻
@thomasnagy
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers pal, interesting to hear what people do when they watch the vids ... ab workout that's a first ;-)
Great vid thomas i do like to see the work so i can learn aswell as i am doing electrical in college so i will like to see my vids like this with vids showing the work your mate damian👍
Is it 16mm main earth and 10mm bonding on a tt system thanks
do you need an adapter to gp from the pvc conduit to the kopex, if so whats the name of it
Hi I think everything you said in the beginning of the video is spot on . at the end of the day we are fully qualified electricians dealing with electricity day in and day out I think we all do a little risk assessment in our head before we stick our fingers in 👍 keep up the good work Do you think you will ever do a live video with questions and answers ?
love fuse board changes as a technician i find it interesting
What was your reason for installing new earth rod? Was there no main earth previously?
@TheEulerID
5 жыл бұрын
In times past bonding to incoming water and gas were considered sufficient to provide protective earth. These days, with water and gas increasingly coming in via plastic the regs were changed to mandate the use of an earth rod on TT systems.
@johnxenofontos1058
5 жыл бұрын
@PETER WILSON The old rcd you pulled out was a voltage operated and not a current operated made by crabtree in the 60's.
@abdulseaforth6930
5 жыл бұрын
John Xenofontos Correct John I pulled one out of a flat that was upstream of the former fuse box. Had what you said confirmed by Crabtree.
I love a good Nagy rant 😆
question...where is the best place to install an earth rod on an off grid solar install...cheers
Be careful of those earth rods Tom. It's amazing what crap is buried underneath a residential pavement. We often have cable strikes on our HV cables in the London area. 275kv makes abit of mess! Love the videos and always good to see a notification
@dougsaunders8109
5 жыл бұрын
Mark Forrester I was walking through London the other day passed a hole in the pavement, two massive power cables about 12 inches below the surface. These had been tied into a new development waiting for the back fill. Really surprised how shallow they were
@Benzknees
5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, you could strike gas mains, water mains, sewers & telecoms cables, as well as HV cables or domestic incoming mains cables. Apart from potentially being frazzled, you’d be in deep shit for not getting permission to work below the public footpath, commissioning an underground services map search, and using a CAT & genny. And that’s before you think about future liabilities for the trip hazard!
We love ranty Tom! More like this, please - seriously, your anecdotes are gold. How about the odd 'Tales from the Crypt (well, attic)' episode? Names changed to protect the naughty, obvs...
I have a very similar earth leakage trip kicking around somewhere 😂 still works perfectly
Nice job
7:23 whats the model of that Bosch cordless drill ?
And for God's sake man get a decent sized hammer 😁
@loosecannon5813
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the time I was smacking an earth rod in with a sledge hammer from the customers garage.
@thatgasguy6003
5 жыл бұрын
He probably doesnt have space for it on the van.
@raychambers3646
5 жыл бұрын
Better still get the attachment!
@BestUserNameUK
5 жыл бұрын
Toffee hammer😀
I’m with you on safe isolation. But some protectors on the spare bus bar would make it safer. Or do the blanks in them slot into them.
@johnxenofontos1058
5 жыл бұрын
You will be surprised that the majority of sparks don't know how to test for dead.
@uplightuk8924
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnxenofontos1058 I’ve been a spark for 5 years and have only done the correct safe isolation procedure on my AM2 exam. As Tom said, safe isolation is usually a load of bollocks and it completely unrealistic in a lot of situations. I have had to work on live boards countless times - sometimes there’s no way around it
How was the roundabouts and concrete cows?
"Going back to screwfix...for the fourth time" - god this my entire life trying to get shit done
great video mate
Howdy from Houston Texas. Been watching for a long time now. Great vid as usual
Hi Tom. I’ve got the exact same sds, and I thought the kits came with the standard drill chuck already included.
@apefred
5 жыл бұрын
There are two versions out there: GBH 18-26 F and non-F, F has a normal drill chuck included, non-F does not. But still this won't help because with the normal chuck hammering action does not work. What he needs is basically a cut off SDS chisel for hammering in stuff
A quick question, Do you have to put your earth rod vertical or can you lay it in a trench? I need to put one in my home in the Philippines.
Just out of interest, did you put anything on the bottom of the conduit box that enclosed the earth rod connection? I'm in the habit of putting a stuffing gland round the rod and fixing it into the bottom of the conduit box to guard against moisture corroding the clamp or connection.
Excellent video as always, I've never seen an earth rod installation carried out before, is this how all rods are installed for (TT) systems, if readings & ground condition are good.
I've worked in datacenters for a couple of decades. We never once turned off power to have work done. Once, the sparks had to fix a loose connection on a 400V/3-phase/250 amp breaker... with the power flowing. They had pretty thick rubber gloves on :)
One the earth rod, is it not up to the DNO aka “the board” to supply an earth??
I find drains with an earth rod through then work better with a bit of ventilation 😊 ,the bosch quick realease holes saws are a game changer
How is the kopex glanded into the end box? Has it been pushed in as far as it will go and then other end glanded into conduit? Any sealant used? Is the installation now classed as a TT system?
Just to say, people that swear a lot are the most honest and truthful people FACT
I agree with your safe isolation rant (hahahaha) Tom. I work for a maintenance team in a supermarket and sometime safe isolation cannot be done espcially when working around checkouts,CCTV or fire alarm panels.
Great video very well addressed board Tom 👍
@thomasnagy
5 жыл бұрын
Dave gets the credit for that one!
@garrygriffithselectricalse843
5 жыл бұрын
@@thomasnagy sorry. Dave 😜
Hi Tom allways love the videos just a question what do you do with all your rubbish? I'm in same boat where I just throw all the shit I have away would love to keep it but no storage but do you have a bin you use or pass for you van at a dump? I'm working out how to get rid of all my stuff the best way
Did you use adhesive to fix the conduit to box?
Im curious about the resistance obtained with the earth rod. is it safe enough? just asking no offense :)
How many hours away are you prepared to drive for a job like that? I know you won't answer, I don't know why I bothered asking, but it is a factor in my mind, especially if it's a small job and it needed me to go lookat it before for a quote, which is pretty well always.
i often learn something new and ive been doing it 20yrs ! another good vid . ps whats your thoughts on 18th spd's ?
As a sparky myself, I also have a bag full of old breakers, primarily bs3871 type 2s 😂I understand your pain
Nice one
Did you ask DNO about installing PME? Seen lots of these old places with earth rods still in use years after PME has bee available to a street.
my earth is 0.5ohm at the moment, would an earth rod like that help? what resistance would you get with that do you think?
What kind of radio.do you use Tom?
Hello I'm from the U.S.A , Love your channel just wanted to let you know when I put in a grounding rods I pour water in the hole and prime it up and down which makes it go easier. Hope you try this so let me know if it does.
Got my am2 booked for the beginning of August. Got any tips?
@matthewdale956
5 жыл бұрын
Legend Gaming revise
Safe isolation, well said!
Thanks
with you there about the isolation tom. if you're doing maintenance and existing we leave it on all the time.
Definitely get yourself the earth rod driver for the bosch hammer... it's dreamy. I'm pleased you use the earth rod box, much better looking than the wire going up the wall.
@thomasnagy
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Bosch gear looking pretty damn good
Tom what about giving the old fuseboard bits to collages for students to practice on? I remember the state of the stuff we used when I done mine years ago
I can relate to this guy so much 🤣
Really enjoyed your video. First one of yours I have watched so have subscribed. I couldn't give a f--k about the language as I want to learn more about domestic electrical work. Great video guys, thanks. Steve
Very interesting about the earth rod and how in the end there was a lower earth reading coming from elsewhere.
Great work..but was under the impression your not suppose to use plastic isolators now and they had to be metal or am i wrong?
Hi Tom, quick question. Is there any reason your not installing the new A type RCBO's. Hager & wylex both do them, not much difference in the price.
@calmeilles
5 жыл бұрын
@@gadgetman36 Effectively, yes. The weasel words in the regs say the components have to be type tested to the enclosure which means a board manufacturer _could_ type test other manufacturers RCBOs, but which of them is going to do that?
What was the reason for the earth rod? Was it a TT system to start with?
@jaycee1980
5 жыл бұрын
Quite likely.. possibly using the cold water pipe as the earth!
Great video again. With my consumer units,i number ring each circuit,a bit time consuming i know but more of a profesional job again.whats every ones thoughts?
@calmeilles
5 жыл бұрын
Label everything possible in every way possible... At least, that's the ideal. The reality is that time pressures don't allow it.
another great video tom, however, i thought the regs state that the earth rod had to be atleast 1m away from the building, i could be wrong but im just curious
Nice flush fit
How to finding the Bosch gear Tom ??
Great video Tom. Send that old RCD to Big Clive or JW. I am sure they would like it in their collection. I suppose with any old RCD etc you could put them on eBay as someone will buy them. Saves them being binned and you get some money.
@baldyslapnut.
5 жыл бұрын
JW already did a vid on the Crabtree VOCB
Another great video, what camera do you use
Another great vid. The old ELCB looks like the ancient Voltage operated type which was deleted long ago from the Regs.
@AndyK.1
5 жыл бұрын
Norman Hartill Cus it is. For bonus points, what does the 60A on it mean? And what does 80A on an RCD mean?
@normanhartill1424
5 жыл бұрын
@@AndyK.1. Hi Andy I assume it's the operating current as opposed to the tripping current?
So I shouldn't self isolate? Isn't this what boris is pushing if we show symptoms?
In terms of safe isolation IMO it's all about risk assessment, some boards (eg Schneider is the best example I can think of) are well designed and very easy to safely work on / add circuits etc and I'm happy to do so, others I wouldn't even take the cover off...
@alexdougherty4905
5 жыл бұрын
Schneider boards are awesome to work on.
@johndaniells4440
5 жыл бұрын
The old crabtree C50 boards = fucking death trap.
The reason the installation connected up is giving a lower earth loop value is almost certainly due to a bonded metal water pipe, which in effect is a very long electrode. In addition, if this is the case, all other dwellings with bonded metal water pipes are effectively in parallel, further lowering the reading. 24 ohm from that thing is impressive!
@thatgasguy6003
5 жыл бұрын
Or possibly the gas main. Tell me, does the neutral just go to the same place the earth goes, that is to The Earth? If not, where does the neutral go???
Bish bash bosch. Love my bosch gear could not live without 10.8/12v impact and drill driver. Shame the grinders and multi tools gone all quick lock bollocks . So you have to buy the fancy accessories. 18v robust drill is good for holes in joists. Good torque.
I love your videos mate, I think you’re absolutely fucking hilarious! Keep up the good work pal, it’s very satisfying! 👍🏻
@thomasnagy
5 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, glad to hear it!
You have Balls to drilling a hole in the pavement. And grab the metal to pull out. 😂
@philpinto
5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same 😬
@niceguy235uk1
5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, i'm sure the council, and the person who trips on it would take him through the courts. That earth road should have been installed in the back garden.
@everythingrick370
5 жыл бұрын
Paul Green if they are to trip and fall they will fall over the door lip as well. You want them to install in the rear then run the cable through the whole house??
@ottofumbler7267
4 жыл бұрын
@@niceguy235uk1 Totally agree. But why didn't he install an earth pit in that same location so it was at least flush with the pavement? Cost? Time? Regardless, I wouldn't have got the cheque book out if it had been left like that. I'm not in the trade, but I live by, "do it once, do it right".
@ottofumbler7267
4 жыл бұрын
@@everythingrick370 Looked like the consumer unit was on the upper floor, so it should have been easy enough to take it up the rear wall, through the loft, and down through the ceiling. I think he took the easy option, which has created a potential issue for the general public using that footpath. I would have ruled out his method as "unsafe".
New video woooo
Whats with all the Bosch gear now ?
I've seen that not all the installs require earth rods? What earthing systems are used? If you install an earth rod do you require a MEN connection?
@jaycee1980
5 жыл бұрын
In the UK MEN is known as PME (Protective Multiple Earth), or TNCS. Earth rods are usually used on TT installations, where the Neutral may be a long cable and so not good enough to guarantee a sufficiently low impedance earth.