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Unbelievable how we spend endless hours in Irish school pouring over Irish History but we never take the time to hear these amazing leaders in their own words. This needs to change!

@naturehuman

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@sweynforkbeard8857

Жыл бұрын

I just finished reading "The Twelve Apostles" by Tim Pat Coogan. It seemed in the book that Michael Collins did all the dangerous work in the revolution while de Valera spent his time in the U.S., only to come back to Ireland in time to backstab Collins in an attempt for control (with Collins ultimately being killed). How is Collins viewed in the revolution by the Irish?

@illyboulder2557

Жыл бұрын

We should call it the Norman civil war, not the Irish civil war. Is De Valera an irish name?

@robinclarke9978

Жыл бұрын

@@illyboulder2557 also born in the US. The biggest chancer in history.

@johnmc3862

Жыл бұрын

@@robinclarke9978 What!

The legendary Dan Breen said it best: "independence came 100 years too late for Ireland. Had the 1798 rebellion succeeded, we'd be a very different animal today. Those men were of character to steer the ship properly."

@brianmorgan5739

Жыл бұрын

“I entered into the service of the French republic with the sole view of being useful to my country. To contend against British Tyranny, I have braved the fatigues and terrors of the field of battle; I have sacrificed my comfort, have courted poverty, have left my wife unprotected, and my children without a father. After all I have done for a sacred cause, death is no sacrifice. In such enterprises, everything depends on success: Washington succeeded - Kosciusko failed. I know my fate, but I neither ask for pardon nor do I complain. I admit openly all I have said, written, and done, and am prepared to meet the consequences. As, however, I occupy a high grade in the French army, I would request that the court, if they can, grant me the favour that I may die the death of a soldier.” Theobald Wolfe Tone.

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

Had the rebellion succeeded the people probably would have steered away from it. Ireland was not France, they may even have asked the British for help, remember William Pitt the Younger joined the Crowns with Irish and Catholic support.

@mrcoconut1148

Жыл бұрын

So true

@freebeerfordworkers

8 ай бұрын

Legendary Dan Breen? He killed a couple of village policemen with the intention of starting a war only regretting he had not killed six. The war went on for 100 years and it's almost before it was almost settled. As for the rebellion of 1798 with the exception of a few priests the Catholic Church opposed it. Not only that its priests brought their people to help the troops moving to oppose the French Republican Invaders/liberators. Another example of the Church betraying the people? Maybe but just 6 years earlier in 1792 the French Revolutionary Government had de-Christianized France confiscating the Churches entire property. Monks and nuns were thrown onto the street with 2 weeks’ notice where many eventually died in poverty. In just 2 years few of France’s 40k churches remained open as most had been closed, sold, destroyed, or converted to other use. Ancient monasteries were turned into prisons, among them the monastery where Irelands invader French Henry II, his wife and son Richard the Lionheart were buried. Priests who did not leave were deported to penal colonies, drowned on barges in the river Loire in batches of a 100. There are even claims some were tied naked to nuns and then thrown into the river to drown but this has been questioned. What is not questioned is that they publically guillotined 18 Carmelite nuns for treason in a single session. In 2 years the Revolution did more damage to the Catholic Church in France and killed more priests than the Saxon protestant tyrant did in 400 years in Ireland. Still wonder why the church supported the oppressors? For nearly 100 years English and Irish Catholic priests had been educated in France to escape the restrictions imposed on them in Ireland. It is the ultimate irony that because Irish priests training in France were legally British they escaped the horrors inflicted on their French counterparts. The Catholic Church opposed the 1798 rebellion because in terms of its primary mission to promote the Catholic version of Christianity and the physical survival of its people it would have been idiotic for it to do otherwise. In modern terms as a decision it was a no brainer. As a footnote when they cleared the German embassy in Dublin in 1945 they found he had sent regular congratulations to Hitler on his victories as well as birthday greetings. He reportedly had Hitler's portrait on his wall until 1948

@MarkHarrison733

7 ай бұрын

Breen was an actual Nazi.

Ireland of 2022 badly needs a man like Éamon de Valera to lead it through the turmoil at present.

@onthewattle

Жыл бұрын

no it needs the Jims at the least. Bugger Dev

@eamondevalera3126

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Basic History

@paulbrown7374

10 ай бұрын

No thanks..

@jerrydineen6819

9 ай бұрын

Take your meds clown

@peterdoyle1591

9 ай бұрын

@@paulbrown7374 What would you know Paul? What do you know of Ireland at that time? Go away and order pizza and stare at your iPhone.

The graciousness of both the interviewer and Mr de Valera is really impressive. Today's politicians and media could learn a lot from this interview.

Watch a movie called the treaty staring Brendan gleeson as Michael Collins made in 1991 it's more to the truth than the movie Michael Collins with liam neeson

How interesting would it be to listen to his stories from back then? I love this stuff.

Very rare to see him in an interview, and definitely to see him this animated.

Thank you sir

Fantastic footage and surprisingly good quality too. It should be part of every Irish child's history lesson. 12:05 is an important clip: "The restoration of the Irish language". deV would be sick if he could see how FF/FG are continuing their long term goal to wipe out the Irish language.

@TroyaE117

3 жыл бұрын

Well, if you want to learn it, then learn it. There is no-one stopping you. The problem is when you try to compel someone else to learn it. It is not spoken outside of Ireland, and not commonly there either. It is almost absent in Northern Ireland, despite the road signs.

@dannunakifuque7795

2 жыл бұрын

@@TroyaE117 That's no reason to let a language older than Greece to go extinct.

@stefanpieper3757

2 жыл бұрын

In what way do FF/FG try to wipe out the Irish language? And what is their motive in doing so?

@joeschipper2593

2 жыл бұрын

@@dannunakifuque7795 they should build plenty of infrastructures to learn it and encourage people to but forcing kids to learn a hard language 99.99% have 0 interest in learning wont do it any favours

@dannunakifuque7795

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeschipper2593 So under a nationalist push to promote Irish rooted culture they should fund Irish Fantasy Myth Movies spoken in Gaelige. Then play them in Irish Language class. So the children will become enthralled in Irish culture, mythos, cosmology, and language. It would be exciting and alluring. Irish poetry, and hiphop would promote the language, figuring out how to interlock rhyming syllables is always a good way to promote love of a language, and is good for memorizing language.

He was right on many other partitioned countries

@johnboylan3591

Жыл бұрын

He was the man who single handly destroyed the revolution and caused the civil war

@jonnyd.2047

Жыл бұрын

What he forgot to say was that Ireland was one unit for 800 years UNDER BRITISH RULE. In 1920 the people in the north of the island wished to RETAIN that position under British sovereignty. All 3 parties lodged an agreement with the League of nations. The Sinn Feiners (De Valeras natural heirs) never accepted this, including rejecting the legitimacy of the Dail.

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

@@jonnyd.2047 The last part was Republican policy for Stormont. Also bear in mind that there were Nationalist communities in the North. In that environment claiming the whole island is understandable if not needlessly inflammatory.

He has some cheek speaking about Irish women having known well the torture suffered in the magdalene laundries

Fascinating.💫

@Thomas...191

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed... but a little weird as well. So many camara angles; which points to a heavily curated and written programme considering the cameras of the time.. that's my intuition anyway.

I've never heard him in an interview, very interesting.

It comes across ,Eamon de valera. Thinking and under stood .All that mattered. Was status. Being a big hitter/power .And he knew that, in the 20s, ireland got the best. That it could receive ,out of a long hard brutal existence.

@Dechieftian

3 жыл бұрын

well said sir.

@RobertK1993

3 жыл бұрын

American interviewer should have said did you greenlight the assassination of the Irish patriot Michael Collins 1890-1922

@jamespower8234

3 жыл бұрын

In 1903 under the land act of the time the Irish people were given opportunity to own there property in fee simple free from the British landlords. The land Commission who were set up and financed by British governments was later taken over by the so called Irish free state but by 1909 over 13 million acres of Ireland were sold already and less than 7 million acres remained, this was not changed by the formation of the Irish state in 1923 . So you might say our future was planned by the British and brought forward by the free state who never really told how easy they rolled over . History shows that in 1923 the land grabbing started only to line the pockets of Anglo Irish people for the first ten years of the Irish state. The free state paid the English oppressors in full for the land Commission / Ireland's land, rivers and foreshore.

@jamespower8234

3 жыл бұрын

@Leo D'Arcy the Brits were not paid until 1960 and they were paid in total. And every bit of land sold under the english land acts is every deed and title in this country still accepted by Irish law signed and agreed in 1922 . Dev was dirt. Lined his pockets with what was left after the blue shirts robbed there lot for their own.

@jamespower8234

3 жыл бұрын

@Leo D'Arcy we never won our country back we took it on a mortgage and only got 14 % of the land mass handed to the 1923 government

My first impression is of a man with a heart filled with fire living in a time when -- for practical purposes -- only a cold nature would do.

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good way of putting it!

@mcgrudo

Жыл бұрын

Collin's had that cold heart, and it drove de Valera into open rebellion against is efforts

A man that lived through and survived turbulent times with belief, bravery and the determination for a people to be freed from 700 years of tyranny. Show this in schools. Let the youth of today listen this man. Just a pity Collins didn't live to be interviewed in his twilight years. Really enjoyed this. Thank you.

@3storiesUp

Жыл бұрын

A man who was happy to have people living in the dark ages under the control of the Catholic church .. not a leader .. a power hungry advocate of the worst type of reversionism ..

@sweatymrkim4578

Жыл бұрын

@@3storiesUp It was the dark ages. Michael Collins 100 years ago today. The man in the video had a lot to do with his demise.

@3storiesUp

Жыл бұрын

@@sweatymrkim4578 Are you lauding or denigrating him .. you can't really seem to make up your mind. I'll leave you at your delusions.

@sweatymrkim4578

Жыл бұрын

@@3storiesUp He wasn't the same man in later life. In his younger days he was a profiteer and his ideals were flawed by a poor unplanned vision of Irelands future. But the man himself intrigues me historically.

@sweatymrkim4578

Жыл бұрын

@@3storiesUp You don't seem to grasp the man at all. Maybe that will come when you mature a bit.

Would not trust him as far as I'd throw him, machiavellian is an understatement

KZread and primary sources like this should be shown to history students if not all. Dan Breen, Tom Barry etc...

This man is an Irish hero but I’ll never get over the fact he sold out my boy Michael Collins in 1921

@dannunakifuque7795

2 жыл бұрын

If he sold out Michael Collins then fuck 'em, traitors are the biggest enemy of the Irish to this day!!

@johnboylan3591

2 жыл бұрын

De Valera was a coward by sending Michael Collins to negotiate the treaty when he should have gone himself and a traitor when he walked out of the Dial after the treaty had ratified this single act caused the civl war

@johnmc3862

Жыл бұрын

It was ether that or civil war.

@joshmcgeough6823

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmc3862 it was exactly that which caused the 1921 Irish civil war

@patrickporter1864

2 ай бұрын

He was afraid of cathal brugha who is known to have stated him and Collins that the Irish people had no right to do wrong in terms of going back on the declaration of the Republic in 1916. Brugha, a known hard man, threatened to shot any one who considered it. He knew he could not get a Republic from Lloyd George so he sent Collins and the others with conflicting instructions to the negotiations. They were plenipotentiaries who were to refer things back to him before they signed anything. Brugha always hated Collins who was brughas equal in ministerial terms but his subordinates as head of intelligence in the dept. Of defence. Brugha thought Collins got too much credit for what happened during the war of independence. De valera played on this hatred. It was only after brugha was killed that de valera tried to stop the civil war but then Liam lynch got in his way. When lynch was killed devalera got control and it ended.

Absolutely fascinating.

He didn’t mention The reason he was not executed was he was spared because he was an American. The others weren’t so lucky.

As me old mum used say " he was a Spanish onion in an Irish stew" !

@dannunakifuque7795

2 жыл бұрын

Our people have always had a way with words.

@WH-um2gx

2 жыл бұрын

@Shane Gallagher Yes, quite lovely

@ciaranmaguidhir7858

2 жыл бұрын

@Shane Gallagher how is that racist? Do you even know what that word means?

@michealcollins979

2 жыл бұрын

He a trator should been impailed

@johnboylan3591

2 жыл бұрын

No she didn't Winston Churchill did

A small correction to the notes above. Éamon de Valera was the President of the (revolutionary) "Irish Republic" of 1919-1922. Unfortunately, that particular state was not recognised and it was not until 1922 that the "Irish Free State" was formed. The Free State from 1922-1937 was a constitutional monarchy over which the British monarch reigned (from 1927 with the title "King of Ireland"). Éamon de Valera was not the first president of the Republic of Ireland, this was Douglas Hyde 1938-1945, he was in fact the 3rd President of the Republic of Ireland from 1959 to 1973. Stages of independence from the United Kingdom • Proclamation 24 April 1916 • Declaration 21 January 1919 • Anglo-Irish Treaty 6 December 1921 • 1922 constitution 6 December 1922 • 1937 constitution 29 December 1937 • Republic Act 18 April 1949

@andrewmoran357

Жыл бұрын

and now the EU are the boss of Ireland what a waste of a revolution

@Dechieftian

Жыл бұрын

Excellent ! The sequence of key events from 1916 though to 1949 are 33 years of fascinating Irish history.

@patkwalsh4778

Жыл бұрын

Great to be able to se Eaton de valera a great man

@timward3116

11 ай бұрын

Very good clarifications, Barry. Nice to see someone was paying attention! I do forgive anyone who forgets, or is confused, about who was president of what and when, though. I had never watched a normal interview with Dev, and I was pretty impressed. I suspect that he aged rather gracefully and that, as he began to be more aware of his own mortality without the taint of ambition, he may have had some great and humbling moral regrets, particular regarding the civil war and Collins, whose image, story, and goals I appreciate.

@markhaslem2518

3 ай бұрын

Correct, sir!

Good man Dev. He never once mentioned that in 1955 approx. 80,000 people were emigrating every year to find find work, or that Cork, Limerick and Dublin had some appalling slums in the 1950s either. He is much vilified today, but was loved by more than half the population in his day. For my own father, he was 'the Chief'!!!

@robertemmet7756

Жыл бұрын

Michael Collins was the better Irishman

@jamesfitzgerald6636

Жыл бұрын

My dad hated him

@jamesfitzgerald6636

Жыл бұрын

Dev that is

@robertemmet7756

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesfitzgerald6636 Hate Michael Collins or Éamon De Valera

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

It is of course correct to mention but England also had slums.

Interesting interview, I was 5 years of age...

Oul Dev must be spinning in his grave seeing how Ireland has turned out.

@johnmc3862

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean ‘turned out’, Ireland was a 3rd word country when dev was around.

@Canwepleasehavefun1

Жыл бұрын

Ridiculous comment

@merrybutcher2978

Жыл бұрын

He would love the mess it's in the evil bastar*.

@Canwepleasehavefun1

Жыл бұрын

Ireland was a backwards shit hole under his rule dominated by the catholic church. We have made massive progress

@grlfcgombeenhunter2897

Жыл бұрын

True story the lads would’ve probably stayed in bed.

"And please tell me, sir, did, the people, sir......"

Loved the Gaelic comments about women. Note that they are not one-sided.

What do Eamon de Valera, Boris Johnson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Donald Trump have in common? They were all born in New York City.

@phil2003ashleigh

3 ай бұрын

They were all cunts too !

Independence.

Dev & his ilk presided over one of the worst periods of repression in Ireland. They saw to it that the principles of the 1916 rising were trashed & that the Irish people were not liberated. They lived under a cruel theocracy that preyed on the weakest in society & protected the most depraved. The evidence of this is that emigration continued at the same rate as under imperial rule. The Irish voted with their feet.

@MrDaiseymay

Жыл бұрын

well said

@samdoherty2284

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you're right

@73reider

Жыл бұрын

The principles of 1916 were rejected by the Irish people at the time, We are not nor do we support mob rule, The mistake the British made was shooting pearse, Kent etc, Arguably the Irish would have killed pearse ourselves..

@cushyglen4264

Жыл бұрын

@@73reider The landslide for Sinn Fein in December 1918 showed no rejection of the principles behind the rising. You’re right about rejecting mob rule though. Many of the Irish prefer rule by unaccountable elites.

@peterdoyle1591

9 ай бұрын

Yeah right! Dev was a lot smarter than you'll ever be. Not doing too bad now, are we? Trust me you're not very bright. But I'm sure you have it all worked out...Except for your own life. Simple isn't it?

The man who assisted in creating a civil war on not taking an oath and than took the oath.

@MrDaiseymay

Жыл бұрын

De--Vil.

@manusbyrne8972

Жыл бұрын

He was the worst Taoiseach in Irish history

@fitzer1881

Жыл бұрын

@@manusbyrne8972 you’re joking

@manusbyrne8972

Жыл бұрын

@@fitzer1881 I think Murdering 15,000 Irish men for a power grab makes you the worst taoisearch on its own. name me one taoisearch who did more damage to the nation than him

@fitzer1881

Жыл бұрын

@@manusbyrne8972 he had nothing to do with the ira in the civil war that was Liam lynch

Fun fact: He was born as an Hispano-Hiberno-American named “George De Valera” then changed it to “Edward De Valera” and then finally to “Éamon De Valera”

@user-tz8pf4pd4q

3 жыл бұрын

lol what?

@billieboybuddha4238

3 жыл бұрын

I suggest you not to waste your time on wikipedia...

@myowngenesis

3 жыл бұрын

@@billieboybuddha4238 never is it a waste of time to accumulate knowledge.

@billieboybuddha4238

3 жыл бұрын

@@myowngenesis Wikipedia is incorrect many times...

@myowngenesis

3 жыл бұрын

@@billieboybuddha4238 yet they have sources backing up their claims. And if sources are lacking, it tells you outright

If I had my life to live all over again, I would learn to play the HARP like the lady at the beginning of this film, I would stand on every high street in the town and city all over this land and play my music for the people, I am very proud of Eamon de Valera did during the 2nd world war, he declared Ireland natural, well over a quarter of a million Irish people including 2 of my uncles fought in the British side during the war and is only in the past few years their great effort was recognized, The Irish people also helped to feed the British people during those bad years. It was right and proper that the Irish fought against Hitler and his brutal killers

@374c3

Жыл бұрын

Never too late to start learning the harp😊❤️

@73reider

Жыл бұрын

De Valera a common thief, Stealing money from donations given to set up the Irish press newspaper instead the money went into his pocket, An immoral tramp, Quite in keeping with Irish Republicanism..

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he was very neutral but with a clear preference.

@jamesbradshaw3389

9 күн бұрын

@@374c3 Thanks, I agree

Notable the the treaty and war of independence were off the table for discussion...

Btw… the interview was conducted in 1958… not 1955…

When does Mr. Cholmondley-Warner arrive?

If you want to manufacture intellect, try spelling Independence the right way

Micheal Collins didn't make the mantlepiece. A story that my father told me having grown up in the hungry fifties, when the church decided that we couldn't eat fish on Friday, some wag commented, that's OK they don't eat it the rest of the week.

@robertemmet7756

Жыл бұрын

Michael Collins did more for Ireland then cunning American De Valera

@danbreen6946

Жыл бұрын

@@robertemmet7756 Dev Was A Cowardly Snake

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

@@danbreen6946 He was not cowardly as the revolution proves and he had to be devious. Fox is probably a better animal. Also the Church decided no Fish on Fridays centuries before the 1950s.

Talking about Leinster House but he doesn't mention the Bishop's Palace in Drumcondra. To where he devolved a lot of the governance and policy of the state.

Important enough I should have thought to at least spell 'independence' properly in the title heading.

The Church and Collins stole my limelight

De Valera was not the first president. He was the third. First was Douglas Hyde (he was not recognised internationally because ireland was still officially a british dominion at that time) but ireland became a republic while Seán T O Kelly was President in 1949. De Valera wasnt elected president until 1959

@murpho999

Жыл бұрын

He’s talking about being president after 1919 election where an unofficial Irish Republican government was formed. Different to what happened when independence came.

A wasted opportunity, asking Dev for an elementary history lesson.It's bad enough that he bores us, unforgivable that he bored Dev.

He is a young looking 73 years in that interview! Looks like the interviewer has a briefcase fetish😁

@aidanmcnamara3304

Жыл бұрын

Yes. And he is Stephen Colbert's grandfather.

Anyone care to know what de Valera was doing on the 2nd May 1945?..

@gosch89

3 жыл бұрын

Taking a big dump and having a nice cup of tea?

@thevillaaston7811

3 жыл бұрын

@@gosch89 Doubtless both of those... It is known for certain that he took a trip to sign the German Ambassador's book of condolences for Adolf Hitler on that day. In this interview, de Valera failed to mention the Limerick boycott of Jews between1904 and 1906.

@gosch89

3 жыл бұрын

@@thevillaaston7811 nahh... there's no way that happened

@grlfcgombeenhunter2897

Жыл бұрын

@@thevillaaston7811 had his reasons

@thevillaaston7811

Жыл бұрын

@@grlfcgombeenhunter2897 No doubt. He was a supporter of Hitler, and he was an anti-semite, were two of those reasons.

The reporter should have asked him about Michael Collins see he reaction

💪💚🇮🇪

No doubt De Valera was a very intelligent and driven man whose name is ingrained in the history of my country Ireland... But his flaws were to send Michael Collins to do an impossible job and ultimately end his life after the treaty signing. This he recognized in 1966. "In the fullness of time the greatness of Michael Collins will be recognised and will be at my expense". Truest words ever spoken.....

@liammcbride9063

3 жыл бұрын

No evedence exists to prove that he ever said that

@hughslevin7120

2 жыл бұрын

Wheather he said it or not its certainly true As for what he said who gives a dam

@castleofsong9620

Жыл бұрын

Plus he harnessed The Irish State to a Catholic Church that abused and exploited the Irish people. He was an accessory to the many crimes that were subsequently revealed.

@mcgrudo

Жыл бұрын

@@hughslevin7120 Historians, perhaps? Idiot

His accent sounds quite upper class Irish to me.

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

He was not born in Ireland and was rather well educated.

He's wearing the fáinne.

Seems like a humble old man but I say he had that ruthless yank mentailty a master of self preservation to the detriment of his comrades and country.

I hear he paints houses...

@gfficomable

4 жыл бұрын

I've read a few biographies of DeVelara, some impressive academic studies, however this comment is the best one yet.

@Dechieftian

4 жыл бұрын

Dev didn't paint houses .. he had Micheal Collins and The Squad execute the interior decorating.

@santeel

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dechieftian coming from the great niece of Frank Teeling and had the great honour of sitting by the fire listening to his stories as part of Michael Collins trusted squad ,I totally agree. Yes in later years he became an alcoholic. But as he said it wasn't easy to kill another human but necessary. His heart was also broken. I won't say why as that conversation is between him and a 8 year old girl sitting by the fire .

@Dechieftian

3 жыл бұрын

@@santeel what a wonderful comment - thank you. I am honored to have had a reply from a descendant of Michael Collins.

Dev speaking of religious tolerance was the height of hypocrisy.

@jonnyd.2047

Жыл бұрын

He was a proponent of murder and mayhem like his nationalist heirs in Belfast, Derry and Drogheda...

this man, much like gandhi and nehru were to india, a british agent. without michael collins for ireland and subhas bose for india, neither of these two countries would have secured independence.

passive tense for the country was cut off with govt of Ireland act

"Eamon de Valera-first president of the Republic of Ireland-converses with Grinnell College" Are you sure that your description is correct. Dev wasnt the first president of the republic. Now he was the final President of the Executive Council of the Irish Free State when it was still the free state prior to the Constitution being ratified.

@christianpatriot125

3 жыл бұрын

He was the first elected President. Pádraig Pearse was the first president. That fact was ratified by the first Dáil, the same Dáil that elected Éamon de Valera. The executive of the free state followed the treaty and the ceremonial presidency was introduced Dev’s constitution in 1937.

@christianpatriot125

3 жыл бұрын

You could say that he was the first president following the establishment of an elected government, but it is more accurate to describe him as the second president. However the first president, Pearse, regarded himself as a provisional president.

@joesoap1960

3 жыл бұрын

How could you describe this place a republic ?

@christianpatriot125

3 жыл бұрын

Joe Soap Ireland today is a lawless dictatorship being ruled outside constitutional limitations. Like Trump’s election challenges, the courts have so far refused to hear a constitutional challenge. As in 1923 the republic has been overthrown with terror, deceit and brute force. Dev was the president of a democratic republic, subject to the will of the people. Don’t confuse Dev with Mícheál Martin.

@joesoap1960

3 жыл бұрын

@@christianpatriot125 i see your point..i should have read your previous comments more carefully

no photo of Michael Collins

@grlfcgombeenhunter2897

Жыл бұрын

He was jelly of him

What a great interview. The questions beautifully asked, just as Mr deVelera wrote them. No mention of James Connolly or Michael Collins of course, no mention of 'wading through Irish blood'. Instead we get him talking about his incredible embroidered ring. Naturally he was happy to mention Pearse because Pearse had no political or social ideology. This made him acceptable to the church. That and being a harmless old bloodthirsty lunatic. I am Irish, so I allowed say these things.

@Smudgeroon74

3 жыл бұрын

No mention of Douglas Hyde either. Hyde was a great scholar.

@wikipediaintellectual7088

3 жыл бұрын

Plenty of men died expendable soldiers in movements throughout history. Michael Collins was one of the few you actually hear about. It’s a necessary evil.

@fiachramaccana280

3 жыл бұрын

yeah well if we were waiting for you to win Irish freedom for us..... we would wait an eternity. Thats the difference between a revolutionary.... and an armchair critic. The armchair critic never risks a thing.... but still confers on themselves the right to judge others....

@geraldneary1948

3 жыл бұрын

Are you gay or something troll.

@fiachramaccana280

3 жыл бұрын

@@geraldneary1948 wanker

COWARD.... of the first order... Collins should have never gone... should have forced this coward to go himself....

I do so wish that we had footage available of Mr De Valera visiting the embassy of Germany in Dublin in 1945, in order to offer his condolences ‘ upon the death of Herr Hitler ‘.

Is that Stephen Colbert's dad doing the interview?

Is “ independance” like dancing solo ?

@johnboylan3591

2 жыл бұрын

Being a wanker you'd know all about dancing solo

His nationality saved himself from the British bullet . He used Michael Collins as his patsy .

@fcb9950

2 жыл бұрын

His nationality had nothing to do with saving his life. Asquith ordered a stop to the executions the night before he was due to be shot. He even had his goodbye lette written to his wife. He was simply a lucky bastard.

@ThefightingCelt

2 жыл бұрын

@@fcb9950 His nationality had everything to do with it .The British Government realised that they could not execute an American born citizen , and De Valera , an eductaed and wise individual , was only too well aware of that fact .

@shredder9536

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThefightingCelt nonsense they let others off without execution

@grlfcgombeenhunter2897

Жыл бұрын

@@shredder9536 nope 👎

@shredder9536

Жыл бұрын

@@grlfcgombeenhunter2897 read your own history. Lots were let off from execution. Joe Plunketts brother George being one

Although it's fascinating to hear him speak, I doubt anyone could claim he was a good leader.

And still the wrangling goes on, for Gods sake sort it and have a United Ireland ! it will come eventually.

Say what you want about Eamon De Valera, but he rejected the democratic will of the people when it came to the Anglo Irish Treaty. He oversaw a Civil War that killed more Irish people than the war of Independence, and led to the assassination of Michael Collins, the man the Irish had elected to be their leader. For that reason I am not surprised that he has been given the appropriate title of Ireland’s hated hero. He was truly as disgrace

@Jim54_

4 жыл бұрын

James Henderson the pro treaty side won the election, therefore confirming public support for the treaty

@evanmurray6509

4 жыл бұрын

Jim 54 there is no evidence that de Valera ordered the assassination of Collins. Aswell he had no control over the anti treaty ira during the civil war. So he couldn’t have ordered the hit. So stop spouting your ignorance and do some reasearch

@Jim54_

4 жыл бұрын

Evan murray I never stated that De Valera ordered the killing of Collins, so don’t put words in my mouth. I also understand that he didn’t have control over the IRA in the Civil War, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t partly responsible for their actions. He did make speeches recruiting supporters and egging them on before the war started after all. Also, he bears much similarity with the American president James Buchanan, with regard to the fact that, although he was not directly responsible for the civil war, he didn’t do anything to stop it, and in many ways his incompetent rhetoric and policies only added more fuel to the fire of the situation, so to speak.

@Jim54_

4 жыл бұрын

James Henderson Lincoln did not cause the civil war. The south launched an unprovoked attack on the federally owned fort sumpter. Also, he inherited a deteriorating situation from previous presidents. In the 1820s the Missouri compromise had divided the United States on which states could have slavery. Even Thomas Jefferson, who was still alive at this time, said this would lead to Civil War. Also, the idea that an election being partitionist somehow makes it illegitimate directly contradicts with the fundamental basics of democracy. Every election is partitionist in some way, but that is the nature of democracy. Also, De Valera and Collins had agreed to hold an election and to respect the final results. De Valera did not honour this agreement

@Jim54_

4 жыл бұрын

James Henderson as I have already stated, that war had been inevitable for decades. In fact there were a few occasions before Lincoln’s election when it almost took place

I've heard a story of Collins death, it was that de Valera ordered Emmett Dalton to shoot Collins. The nurse on her death bed confessed during autopsy she noticed gun powder all over Collins neck and shirt collar. Meaning it had to have been from point blank range. We'll never know

To think if Michael Collins had lived it could of been him doing this interview. I still wonder would Ireland have been any different if he had lived🤔

@eibhlinni3598

Жыл бұрын

Yes I think Ireland wouldn’t have been so subservient to the Catholic Church he would have kept the country more secular , Dev loved the alter rails

@johnnotrealname8168

Жыл бұрын

@@eibhlinni3598 Bear in mind nearly everyone was a Catholic and actually liked that for the most part. Plus he did not establish a state religion.

@robmil6444

9 ай бұрын

​@@johnnotrealname8168Mother and baby homes, Magdalene laundries, Reformatory and Industrial Schools, repressive legislation, rampant abuse and exploitation of children ..

Comment on title of this intellectual film clip - the word is 'Independence' it's not a 'dance'

The Presbyterians and Church of Ireland promoted spoken and written Irish in the 17th Century. I'm Irish Catholic, by the way. Scots Irish and Native Irish could converse with each other until the freemason/ orange or sowed the seeds of hatred.

He never says any one else name like he did it all himself

@Dechieftian

4 жыл бұрын

A huge character flaw in my judgement. In Dev's mind he was the embodiment of Ireland. He dismissed the results of the 1922 election where the people of the island of Ireland voted by a margin of 3-1 in favor of the Treat. But Dev knew better I guess.

@ianashby6294

4 жыл бұрын

Allen rickmen was a great choice to portray him in Michel Collins

@Dechieftian

4 жыл бұрын

@James Henderson what you think they should have done is academic. What the majority of the Irish electorate did was vote in favor of the Anglo - Irish Treaty. Everybody took issue with the Treaty. Nobody was completely satisfied. But the essence of democracy is the people decide. Not, Griffith or Collins, not DeValera and Cathal Brugha. The Irish people voted for the Treaty.

@Dechieftian

4 жыл бұрын

@@ianashby6294 I thought Rickman was superb

@Dechieftian

3 жыл бұрын

@James Henderson Michael Collins was the candidate for Armagh .. all 32 counties were represented in the vote for ratification of the treaty. The Treaty included a section that partitioned Ireland.

.you soll us out how about michele c

The bloke was a fascist ..condolences on the death of the führer

de Valera should have been asked why HE, was the only head of state to call on the German Embassy to sign the Book of Condolenses, over Hitler's death ?

@Twentythousandlps

Жыл бұрын

Churchill was aware of his fondness for AH and had made very clear that any moves on that ground would meet with a severe response by him. It worked, but even at the very end de Valera showed where his inclinations lay.

@MrDaiseymay

Жыл бұрын

@@Twentythousandlps My question is, WHY did he do it? the war was lost for the Germans, no need to pretend to seek the dubious promise of neutrality. Had the Nazis won the war, and it was quite possible, had we lost the Battle of Britain. NONE--of the so called neutrals would have escaped the occupation and tyranny of the mad evil Nazis.

Please learn to spell, at least for the title. I bet if I made such an error in a Gaelic word, the Gaeltacht would tear me to pieces.

Legend.

The Spanish Man from New York

He used to write to his relatives in a mathematical code of his own devising. He is said to have telegrammed Berlin on the announcement of Hitlers death and he may have even had Mass said for him.

@jamesgreene4811

3 жыл бұрын

So true he was the First head of state to send his condolences to Berlin when Hitler died that says a lot about the Great man, I wonder what would he think of Ireland today, it would probably break his heart truth be known

@Divergent_Integral

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgreene4811 Was he a Nazi sympathizer then?

@hmq9052

3 жыл бұрын

Was he sending his condolences?

@rhodiusscrolls3080

3 жыл бұрын

@@hmq9052 I am not quite sure of what exactly he said and sent. The fact that he did so suffices both his admirers and detractors so it would seem. Ireland was not in the War against Germany and presumably channels were wide open for all sorts of communication.On a tangent the IRA maintained a branch office in Berlin all through the conflict and writers like Francis Stuart have become notorious for doing things like setting their novels action after an Axis victory and saying things very redolent of fascist sympathies .

@hmq9052

3 жыл бұрын

@@rhodiusscrolls3080 It does seem extraordinary that given the choice between the end of freedom and Britain, Ireland couldn't decide which they preferred for the duration of the war.

Would have been looked at more favourably if he didn’t make Collins his scapegoat

Brought the English hangman back to Ireland.

half cuban spanish cold robotic , gallant to the ladies then whispering snake,

figiúr ollmhór agus figiúr tábhachtach sa stair

How fascinating that an American-born led Ireland through its independence movement! Similar to Golda Meir who grew up in the US and later led Israel.

@eoinocnaimhsi2598

3 жыл бұрын

The difference being that De Valera didnt murder civilians deliberately, as much as he wasnt a great lad.

@Ricardo-mr3bg

3 жыл бұрын

@@eoinocnaimhsi2598 Exactly, completely different leaders.

@skymaster4743

Жыл бұрын

Unlike De Valera, Golda Meir left Milwaukee for a settler colonial state that displaced and killed the native population.

As a kid, i pissed in his cell in KIlmainham...my nanna told me a couple of months ago, whoops! hahaha. Apologies Dev.

Fun fact he was American

@conorhealy2431

3 жыл бұрын

well his da was Spanish and his mam was Irish and when he was three i think, he moved to limerick Ireland

@cld-lol

3 жыл бұрын

Conor Healy Thank you for letting me know that that’s really interesting

@wikipediaintellectual7088

3 жыл бұрын

His American citizenship saved his life from the British on multiple occasions.

@CharlieOBrienTF

3 жыл бұрын

@@conorhealy2431 His father was Cuban as far as I know.

@ceannaire

3 жыл бұрын

@@wikipediaintellectual7088 Funnily enough that’s not true, the british stopped it because everyday an execution happened and they feared if they continued it would’ve fuelled an even bigger Irish rebellion.

Fascinating. It’s diabolical how virtually no Irish history has ever been taught in British schools.

@KeithWilliamMacHendry

Жыл бұрын

It was pretty much the same, if not quite, in Scotland.I had a wee bit on the wars of independence, not much. Hee haw on the Scottish reformation, nothing on the union of the crowns or the union of parliaments in 1707 & again nothing on the Scottish enlightenment that truly shaped Scotland's thinkers & led the way for the explosion of Scottish excellence. Our large role in empire was again not taught, we were disproportionately massive in empire though the Irish provided a good more fighting men. The English get the blame for empire but deserve to, after all, in all my experiences & of course most peoples mindsets, the world refer to the collective British as English. So have it you Saxonite BawBags!

@vortexx555

Жыл бұрын

Including many northern Irish schools...

@sham5280

Жыл бұрын

The history and geography of Britain was very prominent when I was in school and still is. The Norman invasion, the plantations the war of independence and everything in between. As regards geography, all the major cities, rivers, mountains, industry.

@jmccullough662

Жыл бұрын

@@vortexx555 I went to school in Northern Ireland and we learnt Irish history.

@mrcoconut1148

Жыл бұрын

Why would they

Sold out on the big fella micheal Collins

Why didn't the interviewer ask about Hitler.

For strategic reasons the British needed northern Ireland to avoid threat of invasion on two fronts. Now this threat doesn't seem relevant as warfare has changed, and neutrality respected.

@RobertK1993

3 жыл бұрын

Appease Ulster Protestants who where clenching thier fists threating Civil War.

@DerekTJ

9 ай бұрын

This has been stated under Blair too

Reading all the negative comments to this video does for me raise a question and that is ... when the CPO rising was taking place in Dublin why did not any other parts in the country especially Cork also rise and so split the responding British forces? In the end someone must come out as the leading survivor and the excuses made for other historical individuals even those arrested based on geographical locals does seem to be those of historical guilt.

@johnboylan3591

2 жыл бұрын

Because the rising was supposed to take place in Sunday 23 April 1916 Eoin Mc Neil cancelled the rebellion because the British had captured Roger Casement at Banner strand and there were no German guns

@tomhayes4782

Жыл бұрын

Because the uprising was called off in the rest of Ireland.

I was in Ireland when he died. Television was cancelled.

My great grandfather taught Eamon De Valera Gaeltacht at his kitchen table.

@maxpaws3977

4 жыл бұрын

What did he say he was like as a person?

@paddyfolan

4 жыл бұрын

Max Paws never spoke to my great grandfather but from all accounts, and there’s not many, my family said De Valera was an incredibly smart man both in his mind and way he acted.

@gosch89

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to say it mate but your great grandfather is full of shit

How the f**k did we end up here... from there? We are going backwards.

@gerryhannan9463

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@grlfcgombeenhunter2897

Жыл бұрын

Sad but true

@tommercury3349

Жыл бұрын

@@grlfcgombeenhunter2897 but you support it

@grlfcgombeenhunter2897

Жыл бұрын

@@tommercury3349 what are u on about

During this interview the Church was running Ireland

@odonnchada9994

3 жыл бұрын

No Sinners Where Trying To Ruin The Church. As Christ Said The Gates Of Hell Shall Not Prevail Against It.☘🇮🇪

@odonnchada9994

3 жыл бұрын

Hail Glorious Roman Catholic Saints And Martyrs Of Éireann.💚

@KimPhilby203

3 жыл бұрын

A ghoulish religion...

@odonnchada9994

3 жыл бұрын

@@KimPhilby203 Mr Bean.😄

@odonnchada9994

3 жыл бұрын

@Leo D'Arcy No Milesian Gael Celt Irish My People Stayed. They Had The English Shaking In Their Boots Back In The Day. You Sound Like A Traitor Pagan Are You?☘🇮🇪

How can any Irish person hold there head up and claim independence,whilst six counties still lie under British occupation .no person can say this is Ireland until it’s 32, that’s what the Brave fought for,

EdV comes over very well. But what a sycophantic interviewer… who never asked him a single tough question.* Btw… I see that the American was 47 at the time of the filming… and EdV was 75 at the time of filming… but the American lived only another 11 years… whilst our main man lived another 17… Liked his story of the lapel ring. Are they still to be seen today? * no questions on the ROI's WW2 neutrality against Nazis for Godsake… let alone asking him why he signed that notorious book of condolence in the German Embassy, two days after Hitler's suicide…!!

@TroyaE117

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and Devalera already knew of the horrors of the Holocaust when he expressed sadness with the death of Hitler.

@grlfcgombeenhunter2897

Жыл бұрын

Pity we didn’t listen to the man we wouldn’t be in this mess now. I reckon it was to piss of the Brits and the small fact he was sending over guns.

Interesting interview and his perspective is rather telling. He was a visionary certainly, but being a visionary he didn't seemed to consider the dire economic situation that the Republic of Ireland was in in the 1950's when this interview was recorded. The isolationist self suffiency economic programme that 'Dev' followed since he first came to power in the 1930's, while it might have made some sense in the second world war, by the time this interview took place an economic isolationist small nation in Western Europe was a failing policy. The Taoiseach (his official title at the time of this interview) mentioned the population of 4.3 million. By the 1960s it was 3.5 million heading for 3 million as men and women emigrated for economic reasons. It wasn't until his successor in his political party took over (Sean Lemass) and open up the Irish economy to greater inward investment and international trade that Irelands long economic recovery, really since 1922, began. Today thanks to the likes of Lemass, Lynch, Cosgrave, Fitzgerald and even Charlie Haughey in a perverse way, Reynolds, Bruton, Ahern, Kenny, Vradkar and Martin, and membership of the EEC and EU, we have a nation with greater opportunities and wealth (one of the highest GDP per capita in the world) for its people than we have ever known before. There still are many problems such as housing shortages, Health care , and current economic challanges caused by Brexit, COVID, and Russian war in Ukraine, but the point us we have the ability and resources face the challanges as a proud independent country within the EU. Not to denigrate the contribution De Valera made to establishing our nation, and his aspirations for Ireland, genuinely and honourably held. His scrupulous honesty and ethical approach to government is an example to modern Irish politicians.

@johnmurdoch8534

Жыл бұрын

Thanks to the scum and traitors that followed him, ireland has the opportunity to cease to be irish and has taken it. Dev was far from perfect but man, ireland was better off with poverty than the strange notion of prosperity you seem to see.

He would turn in his grave if he knew what "They" have done to Ireland.