We're at 1,920 ejections this season? Jesus

@tigerlee1106

Ай бұрын

I think she meant ejections 19 and 20 😅

@Jamac89

Ай бұрын

No, these ones were by De Jesus. You forgot the "De".

@MwD676

Ай бұрын

@@Jamac89 gotta remember the “De.”

@drz1263

Ай бұрын

Was he ejected too??

@donaldthomas7070

Ай бұрын

Well, since we're getting Biblical here, how many of the ejections have involved Angel?

I'm not surprised Don Orsillo was "accurate, [with a] good call." As a Sox fan who still misses him dearly, Don Orsillo is one of the best play by play guys.

@scottdeakes8494

Ай бұрын

We love him as Padres fans

@bhamsoxfan72

Ай бұрын

Maybe you Padres fans will get your own pizza moment...

@notNajimi

Ай бұрын

@@bhamsoxfan72bro what does this even mean

1920 ejections? NO MORE HOLIDAYS LINDSAY. DAMN!

@tigerlee1106

Ай бұрын

They are 19th and 20th ejections 😉

@penguin44ca

Ай бұрын

Obviously

Dang, we are already at 1920 ejections! 😜

This one highlight a potential issue with the mechanic in my mind. Profar is mostly turned away from the the ump, he ran a stop sign that he might not have ever seen. If the warning is intended to help with game management and behavior self correction, what good it is to do it in a way the player is unaware of?

@fifiwoof1969

Ай бұрын

Player should watch umpire - he knows what he is doing but wants to plead ignorance about the stop sign? Ignorance of the law is no defense, hit the showers kid.

@DJTexan

Ай бұрын

@@fifiwoof1969 if his actions offend you then you shouldn’t be an umpire.

@fifiwoof1969

Ай бұрын

@@DJTexan if you can't follow the rules you shouldn't play the sport.

@jodosh

Ай бұрын

@@fifiwoof1969 I think you are missing the point of my comment. The equipment violation is a valid ejection (if it should be is a different discussion) but my point is the value of the point mechanic. What value does it provide to the situation to warn someone silently who has their back to you, and then toss them for ignoring the warning? And to say the player should be aware of what the ump was doing is BS. The player had an outburst and thought they were disengaging. (Making eye contact while angry dropping/slamming your stuff would be very demonstrative and should be an automatic ejection.)

@TrueTrueBehemoth

Ай бұрын

Players should know that throwing their equipment will lead to a warning and then an ejection in the first place. They make too much money to not know that honestly.

Question. Does the umpire have to verbalize the warning? There's no way Profar sees the point, so unless there's an audible warning, he is absolutely right to question his ejection here

@tw1nn319

Ай бұрын

or... he can know the rules and know that the 2nd thing thrown will get him tossed

@SchillerDuval

Ай бұрын

It's in the rules. Players, coaches, and commentators read the rulebook before every season to familiarize themselves with updates and recent changes...oh wait.

@tendyedits1272

Ай бұрын

While I agree, ejections like this have happened before and I could only imagine in the meetings that all these teams have it’s mentioned every year. While I’d say here this wasn’t a verbalized warning because of the point, nor do we Plate Umpire say anything. The other issue is the quick succession of the bat which is clearly frustration with the call then the helmet. By the rule it’s an ejection. Part of me could do with out, but I think it’s just one of those things where it’s like plausible deniability where the players say something and then walk away or and as they’re leaving they say something and get ejected. What it makes it look like is the umpire is ejecting a player who is walking away but in reality they were saying something on the depart. I think the lesson here is, if you’re gonna throw something just to one piece not the pair.

@FoxtasticGaming

Ай бұрын

@@SchillerDuvalplease umpires can’t even call the rules correctly you want everyone else to know more than the umpires

@MikeSchmidt969

Ай бұрын

For a long time, equipment had to actually make contact with the Ump to get an ejection. Baseball has gotten even softer than it already was.

If the “point” the HP umpire does when Profar throws his helmet down is the “warning” it really should be visible to the batter. Profar could not see the “point” at all. So what good is that “warning”?

@63076topher

Ай бұрын

It is AUTOMATIC so he knows he is warned.

@PapaVanTwee5

Ай бұрын

The point can be a warning, but just like arguing balls and strikes (also a no-no) if what you do is bad enough, it can be an automatic ejection.

Well, well. We were waiting for a, “Getting Your Money’s Worth”; saying along with the Mario Coin Ding during this MLB season on this channel. And…well, we finally got it, courtesy of San Diego Padres’ Manager Mike Shildt (2:42-2:43-2:44 [Getting Your Money’s Worth]; 2:45 {Mario Coin Ding}; 2:46-2:47 [Getting Your Money’s Worth]; 2:48 {Mario Coin Ding}; 2:49; 2:59-3:00 ➡️ 😂🤣😂🤣); after he got tossed (2:38); because he was defending one of his players who got tossed (1:22); for basically showing up the home plate umpire in throwing his bat & helmet in disgust (1:20); after striking out (1:16); which is a no-no. Also, that was a correct strike call by the way.

Thanks for the report on the vacation backlog -- then we know when we get to the REALLY interesting one! :)

Thanks for the breakdown! I was pretty confused by the quick ejection and I still feel like it’s kinda bull. Was definitely handled by the rules by the ump, but I think it happened so fast that Profar didn’t register that he’d even received a warning. I feel like umpires should have more responsibility in making sure a warning is heard or seen, rather than gesturing to someone who’s turned around and tossing them out when they don’t have eyes in the back of their head

@rayray4192

Ай бұрын

Has your confusion been solved? The umpire in chief is not a rogue agent. He works for MLB. He has a boss and an evaluator. He has rules he has to live by. He didn’t write the equipment violation rule. It’s his fault the petulant what’d his back to him. It’s not grade school. Do stupid human tricks and win prizes.

@notNajimi

Ай бұрын

@@rayray4192why so snippy? anyway my point is that both umpire and batter are human, they forget things or just don’t hear them. Just because everything was called by the book, doesn’t mean they couldn’t have potentially done better. That’s why we criticize systems and the people a part of them, so they can improve

@rayray4192

Ай бұрын

@@notNajimi well maybe the umpire should hold the hitter’s hand and comfort him. Maybe a cuddle would be helpful. If the hitter didn’t know MLB protocol he knows now. Swing the bat and stop with the cry baby tantrums.

@rayray4192

Ай бұрын

@@notNajimi sahh- wee, did I hurt you feelings. It’s hard ball baseball for money. No crying allowed.

@rayray4192

Ай бұрын

@@notNajimi no verbal warning is required. Umpire did his job. Blame the hitter who acted like a petulant child

I love DeJesus robotic ejection signal

This to me feels like the ejection version of replay calling someone out for getting shoved off. mechanically and technically correct, but the second throw could have easily happened before Profar registered the warning.

@63076topher

Ай бұрын

The warning is AUTOMATIC so the second he throws it BEFORE the umpire points he is warned.

@PapaVanTwee5

Ай бұрын

The rules told Profar before he stepped to the plate he couldn't throw stuff, so this isn't an excuse.

@notNajimi

Ай бұрын

@@PapaVanTwee5I agree that he should’ve been aware of what would get him ejected as a batter, because ejection is an undue burden on your team. But it’s like you’re expecting players to have the rulebook memorized or something. They’re athletes not lawyers, there’s plenty of rules in any sports rulebook that most players will never have to think about and that’s especially true for baseball

@PapaVanTwee5

Ай бұрын

@@notNajimi We can't know every law in existence, but we can't plead ignorance if we break the law. The same holds true here.

I guess this begs the question: what is the non-offensively allowed way to be disgusted by a call according to the rule book?

@flairwhoo

Ай бұрын

Dead silence with little to no body language, apparently

@grumpyref

Ай бұрын

Disgusted by a correct call? How about just grow up, and walk away?

@ohnoihavetothinkofahandle

Ай бұрын

Talk about it with the media later: "I know that it's the right call by the book, but that doesn't mean it's the right call by the game...", or words to that effect. If the umpire is doing their job and you're not happy, don't make your issue with them, make it with whoever writes the rules.

@whodoyoudancefor

Ай бұрын

​@@ohnoihavetothinkofahandleAn umpire making poor judgement calls is not simply doing their job.

@ohnoihavetothinkofahandle

Ай бұрын

@@whodoyoudancefor but that's not relevant to the question asked in OP's comment

(#18/Ramon De Jesus) is the first MLB umpire from the Dominican Republic. My hat is off to him, and to his home country of the Dominican Republic in respect.

I love the flags you put up on the logo.

Broadcasters don't have a clue on the rules. Would love if MLB or someone made them at least study a cliffnotes version of the MLB rule book.

@MikeSchmidt969

Ай бұрын

Cliff's notes.

@kevwwong

Ай бұрын

@@MikeSchmidt969 I would assume that Buck thinks Cliff's notes are memoirs from former Blue Jay Cliff Johnson.

Can’t wait to see the mental gymnastics for the Boone ejection

I do want to know what it takes to get the 1-UP sound effect for "getting your money's worth" 😂😂

@ericwildfong

Ай бұрын

The coin sound not good enough for you?

I know that not everyone knows all the rules, but this channel amazes me by showing just how many people getting PAID to talk about baseball don't understand baseball.

@PapaVanTwee5

Ай бұрын

I know, right? "Just because he threw two things..." "He didn't even argue..." They still don't fail to amaze.

@rayray4192

Ай бұрын

You know right, that they are paid spokesmen for the home team?

@PapaVanTwee5

Ай бұрын

@@rayray4192 Then they are a bad representation of the team. If a Cubs announcer was this inept, even just because he's being a homer, I'd want him fired.

@rayray4192

Ай бұрын

@@PapaVanTwee5 fair point. Hawk for the south side was as bad as it gets. Cubs broadcasters have always been intelligent; or drunk and funny. Hope you’re well and enjoying the season.

@notNajimi

Ай бұрын

I mean sports rulebooks are dense legalese so I can understand players not knowing all the nuances, but he should still have known this rule because it’s pretty simple and led to two ejections. bet he won’t forget it now lol

Waiting on the Yankees/A’s game two ejection. That’s two ejections I’m a row. Boone first game, Kotsay in the second. Edit: 3rd game of the series and a pitcher for the A’s got thrown out tonight.

@nateward9592

Ай бұрын

Lindsey is playing catch up after being on a break. The list at the beginning showed where she’s at with catching up!

@morningsidedriverock

Ай бұрын

@@nateward9592 🙄 🤦

2:45 2:48 and 3:00 Shildt got his money’s worth cue the coin Lindsay

Throwing equipment is not automatic warning, it must be "in disgust." The problem here is that the batter is looking away, so we don't know if the umpire actually said anything. It looks like he waved a warning, but the batter doesn't see it (he is looking away)- so the batter can reasonably say he was not warned. fwiw I don't see where in that written rule it says that any post warning throw is ejectable (that may be the interpretation, but it doesn't actually say it does it?)

I love the "What did I do?" look Profar gives, like he has no idea there's a rule against tossing equipment like that. Curious viewers might also want to check out Ejection P1 from 2022.

@stephenj9470

Ай бұрын

It's a way of getting people on your side rather than the umps. Similar to how a player covered his mouth with his glove, dropped an f bomb, and then acted shocked when he was thrown out.

@priceright8963

Ай бұрын

@@stephenj9470 If you're talking the Aroldis Chapman ejection, what came out was worse than an F bomb.

@stephenj9470

Ай бұрын

@@priceright8963 Good to know. I either didn't catch it or didn't remember it, just assumed.

This video makes it seems like De Jesus was required to eject Profar. It's entirely within the ump's discretion i.e. "may be grounds for an ejection" or "may eject the offender immediately." There was no good reason to eject Profar and that lead to the manager getting ejected too. 2 ejections over what should have only been an equipment violation.

“Any part of the ball passes through any part of the strike zone.” Anyone want to tell that to the Umps in MLB The Show?

@metzilla

Ай бұрын

that may be a good idea, .... they may not know that!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

I thought replay was suppose to lighten the ejection load. ha.

I agree with the equipment violation. Of course the ejection for the second piece of equipment is pretty much automatic. However, I agree with Lindsay that the two pieces of equipment should be treated as the same incident. Of course there has to be some limit, otherwise players could just perpetually throw equipment without facing any consequences. At the end of the day, it's a player throwing a temper tantrum like a toddler because a call didn't go his way. It's understandable for a manager to come out to collect his player so that he doesn't get suspended, but when a manager goes on a rampage like this, he has to go too. To me, this feels like a parent indulging their child's tantrum. I don't blame Ramon De Jesus for any of this. In fact, I give him a lot of credit for remaining calm when all this nonsense happened. I almost wonder if we treated both equipment violations as one event, if that it self would be enough to constitute an "extremely severe" violation. At the end of the day, actions have consequences and Profar and Shildt will get an early shower.

@whodoyoudancefor

Ай бұрын

That's not a temper tantrum. Do you even know what a toddler is? Profar said nothing and spiked his bat and then helmet down into the dirt. Weak equipment violation. Weak toss.

@ericwildfong

Ай бұрын

@@whodoyoudancefor You don't need to say anything to throw a temper tantrum. Also non-verbal abuse is still abuse, and body language can say a lot

@whodoyoudancefor

Ай бұрын

@@ericwildfong "Abuse"!?? You're 10 ply bud.

@ericwildfong

Ай бұрын

@@whodoyoudancefor Are you trying to compare me to toilet paper? Are you really that dense to what officials at any level of baseball have to put up with on a regular basis?

@whodoyoudancefor

Ай бұрын

@@ericwildfong Yeah, anyone who thinks Profar even remotely approached "abuse" is unimaginably soft, like ten ply. Profar was incorrect to be frustrated, but there is nothing remotely abusive in his response. Go outside, touch grass, and look up at the stars because one of them is closer to you than Profar was to being abusive.

I think MLB needs to tell the umpires not give out equipment fines when it is the final out of an inning. These fans are paying to see these players play, and not to see umpires to kick out the players fans are playing to see.

Players should know by now... slamming equipment is not acceptable... in lower levels.. that alone is ejectable.. (damage equipment that might be needed to save your life later).. walk away and just drop it.. or .. OMG.. actually take it back to the dugout...

@stevehamman4465

Ай бұрын

Slamming equipment is also ejectable at any level of play! Theres no NEED for a warning! As in all ejectable offenses,, you dont HAVE to warn first.

Since Shildt continued to "get his money's worth" for several minutes after he initially "got his money's worth," by continuing to spew whatever pointless vitriole he was vomiting, I would love to see MLB increases his fine and suspension to get their money's worth out of him "getting his money's worth".

Good for Shildt, this stuff is absurd

@63076topher

Ай бұрын

So you should throw a temper tantrum if you strike out the calls were right.

@dl72fan

Ай бұрын

@@63076topher You should always protest injustice. Even if you believe that the calls were right, the ejection certainly was not

@63076topher

Ай бұрын

@@dl72fan Yes it was after the AUTOMATIC warning for the first part of his TEMPER TANTRUM the player continued with the TEMPER TANTRUM by throwing something else.

I think I've been watching too many of these. I found myself pointing and tossing in rhythm with De Jesus.

Right call, just had this happen at a High School game recently and had to restrict the kid to the dugout.

Seems like this is making a case for MLB having too many rules, which then in turn make the umpires look bad, while also not being clear enough about the rules for umps, players, and announcers alike. Seems almost like a set-up to make umps look bad, and in turn save the league money by bringing in robo-umps.. manfred can’t leave soon enough.

@63076topher

Ай бұрын

So let them throw a temper tantrum like a little baby when they strike out?

And you wonder why Buck Martinez didn't last too long as Jays manager. In 2001, he led them to a 3rd place finish in the AL East, then was let go only a couple of months into the following season. You'd think he would know the rules on ejections by now. I live in an area that's within Toronto broadcast territory (which is pretty much all of Canada), so I've had to put up with him for several seasons now.

Baseball is the best sport

A "That escalated quickly" in San Diego is pretty on point. 🤣

@PapaVanTwee5

Ай бұрын

Stay classy, San Diego.

Buck is right. Absolutely no reason to throw him out. Outright abuse or power.

If the first piece of equipment draws a warning/fine, the second will basically ALWAYS come with the thumb.

But was the disgust over the umpire's call or just frustration with himself? As he did not argue the call I would suggest the latter and thus the rule should not apply.

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

Is that a serious question? I mean he turned to the umpire with both arms up, bat arm up a bit less because duh. It's clearly frustration over the call.

That was clearly a strike. So pointless to argue at and to throw a tantrum about it was a pretty obvious ejection. Not to mention, this reminds me of the time when Profar threw a tantrum like that and got tossed by Hunter Wendelstedt.

Multiple Padre players with severe attitude problems which seem to be enabled by manager and front office. Not good for the game. Throw them out when they do this stuff.

Sensitive quickhook ejection but it’s expected with Ramon. I think the rule should be multiple violations/fines for each thing thrown if the umpire deems it personally offensive what was done with equipment instead of an ejection. Also, Johnson shouldn’t have joined in and put hands on Profar then get involved with Shildt. That was totally unprofessional. Only positive thing of this was the call was right.

@marimbaguy715

Ай бұрын

Terrible, incorrect take but it's expected with DJTexan.

@DJTexan

Ай бұрын

@@marimbaguy715 What exactly was incorrect?

@marimbaguy715

Ай бұрын

You were told in nearly every comment section last year that it's standard procedure for the second umpire to come over and help when an ejection occurs. You think it's unprofessional for umpires to do that when it's literally what they're trained to do. Additionally, this ejection wasn't a "quickhook". It was by the book. Throwing equipment in disgust, warning. Do it again, ejection.

@DDAUmps

Ай бұрын

@@marimbaguy715 everything he said happened. You’re just a typical trol that judges comments by the poster and not what was said.

@DDAUmps

Ай бұрын

@@marimbaguy715 nowhere in the rulebook it says an umpire should put hands on someone then start arguing with manager.

I feel like Profar was probably more annoyed at himself, as he should be, that's too close to take, especially as it was a great pitch. I get why he was tossed.

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

I mean he turned to the umpire with both arms up, bat arm up a bit less because duh. It's clearly frustration over the call.

Sorry, but this is just stupid. Umps are WAY too sensitive and are actually looking for ways to eject players. They themselves antagonize the players at times. This isn't Sunday school, and what we just saw here isn't even egregious. The fact that "any" toss of equipment is grounds for ejection allows the umps to make the distinction as to a player's intention at the moment. Simply let them blow off steam and be done with it. Especially if there's no direct confrontation. Umps don't deserve unmitigated respect. We all know this is a game of inches, so empathy going both ways from ump to player and back is what should be the goal. Instead we have a distinct separation between the two with the umps beyond reproach. So of course the players and coaches are going to flip out because they have no other recourse.

@63076topher

Ай бұрын

If you want to throw a TEMPER TANTRUM when you strike out go back to playing tee ball.

@MikeSchmidt969

Ай бұрын

@@63076topher If you think that's a temper tantrum, you're just as overly sensitive as these umps. It's clear what's a "tantrum" and what isn't. This isn't.

Bump up #6. That's gonna be a 10 minute video right there.

Video 12 of Petitioning for an Ejection Pace Counter in the description of each E video! (Does this count as video 13 as well???)

The rule says “may”. Therefore, an objection is not mandatory. The umpire had discretion in this case and went overboard.

Baseball has THE softest officials in all of sports

This is one of those rare times where I might disagree. After he threw the bat, the umpire points. Then he throws the helmet. He shouldn’t have to play ignorant with the rules, no matter how lame they might be. If I knew I was gonna get tossed at two items, I’d go get the massive bucket of gum and seeds and toss that one for number 1, then s huge bucket of balls for number two. Now that’s getting your moneys worth. Da Ding!

How often is it that we just see the equipment violation? The ejections always seem to be reactionary on the players' behalf.

So these are grown men playing a boys game and acting like toddlers. What did he think would happen. I know its all just entertainment but...c'mon now. Are we still wondering why there is a crisis with regard to recruiting and retaining officials? The actual kids and youth coaches act up the same way because of these entitled brats. But again, entertainment. Got it.

Once again the umpire is right. Once again the player and coach are wrong. Once again the player and coach get to continue the argument after being ejected. MLB allows this because they think this is what baseball fans like to see. They are selling us this drama. Are we buying the drama? What is this…WWE?

Buck, the Bob Cole of baseball

Lucky catch up 6 more go now not count night game

Like if you came before the title was changed

Schildt needs a suspension

This is also called an umpire being soft.

Mike Schildt is easily among the biggest bums of mlb skippers out there. Him and the current Cardinals managers are just a pair or grade A A-Holes.

The text that you are showing on the screen IMO is not something that HAS to lead to ejection. It says throwing equipment MAY be grounds for ejection. And then there's nothing saying that two immediate equipment throws in succession has to be treated as two separate acts. Then it goes on to say an immediate ejection can take place if the violation is "extremely severe" which I don't think anyone would deem what happened here "extremely severe." Not to mention it says that equipment violationS (plural!!) can be an intermediary step. Meaning that you can still treat two throws as one warning. (At least that is my interpretation). Once again talking crap on the broadcasters for no reason. This is a bad ejection in my opinion. I wouldn't say the ejection was UNWARRANTED. It was a REASONABLE objection. But in your video you are portraying this as a NECESSARY or REQUIRED ejection and based on the text you are presenting on screen, I wholeheartedly disagree with that take.

@fifiwoof1969

Ай бұрын

At what point is player responsible for their actions? Umpire made him responsible by ejecting him. Hit the showers kid.

@Mark-wd5zb

Ай бұрын

@@fifiwoof1969 I said it wasn't an unreasonable ejection. I have a bigger issue with how the video portrays the incident in contrast to the MLB Umpire Manual text they're showing on screen.

@ericweeks8386

Ай бұрын

@@Mark-wd5zb You know he was saying something during the at-bat as well, not to mention the body language. He didn't like a correct call, acted like a child, twice in a row, after being warned once, he continued on acting like a child, and was sent to time-out.

Equipment violation ejections are cheap. Change the rule.

@fifiwoof1969

Ай бұрын

Stop violating. Showing up the umpire - get outta here.

@mikecumbo7531

Ай бұрын

@@fifiwoof1969when is the last time you paid to see the umps? Fans pay to see the players play.

@stevehamman4465

Ай бұрын

​@@mikecumbo7531, yes mike they do pay to see the players play. But they dont pay to see the players act like 3yr olds when they dont get their way. Maybe the punishment for slamming his bat in anger should have been a good hard spanking? Players need to play the game and not try to be umpires. That is what a player is doing when he argues a call,, he is trying to be an ump!

@DJTexan

Ай бұрын

@@stevehamman4465 We had things thrown at us and we were bumped constantly in 80s. Umpires now are too sensitive to minor stuff.

@tw1nn319

Ай бұрын

@@DJTexan still stuck in the 80s old man. you guys also harrassed people for being gay in the 80s, should we bring that back too?

Petco is a dumpster fire.

The umps need to grow some thicker skin while the players/managers need to grow up more than a little

@fifiwoof1969

Ай бұрын

Players need to not throw their shit. Hit the showers kid.

@DJTexan

Ай бұрын

@@fifiwoof1969 don’t be an umpire if that offends you.

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

@@DJTexan Don't play the game if you can't follow the rules.

@ericweeks8386

Ай бұрын

@@fifiwoof1969 Especially when they're wrong. Not a good look to throw a temper tantrum while being paid millions of dollars.. and being wrong.

@DJTexan

Ай бұрын

@@LucianDevine it’s not in the rulebook.

Umpires are a joke

Weak. The umpires in MLB are embarrassing.

@tw1nn319

Ай бұрын

weak or not, its in the handbook and has to be dealt with or else de Jesus's ass is in the jackpot

@roymauler

Ай бұрын

@@tw1nn319 You really think there would have been repercussions to the ump if he had not ejected the player? 😆

Ramon De Jesus has a Quick trigger. That’s why I don’t think He’s the best umpire

Pretty sure Louisville Slugger manufactured the bat with the idea that it’s to be swung.

Pretty sure the bar was designed to be swung.

The players don’t know the rules of the game they play.

lmaoo Umpire make right calls..

It doesn't always get enforced. That's the issue here.

What did I miss when did it go from 18 to 1920 elejections I kown I am brain dead from college I didn't know I was that brain dead.