When a dystopian future in a classic science fiction movie starts to look better than the present reality, we are in trouble.

@braxxian

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. At least they got 30 years of happiness.😛

@bannedmann4469

Жыл бұрын

Pfft, you can dislike the current state of things without being silly.

@stevekitt52

Жыл бұрын

It was 21 in the book.

@guillermoelnino

Жыл бұрын

@@bannedmann4469 whos being silly

@docsavage8640

Жыл бұрын

But you can't be a Leftist without being silly

Logan's Run and Soylent Green are interesting companion pieces, the former exploring the horrors of population control and the latter the horrors of overpopulation. I think we are a lot closer to Logan's Run than Soylent Green, just much more subtle. The almost religious fervor of the crowds cheering the scene where the people who've reached 30 are vaporized reminds me of the religious fervor of the woke mob these days.

@olafweyer859

Жыл бұрын

Add Rollerball

@hunteralderman4867

Жыл бұрын

Certainly a lot of psudo-religious woke mob nutcase stuff, but if you look at demographics we are in no danger of the demographic situation of Logan's Run. In Logan's run feminism and birth control didn't cause the birth rate to fall off a cliff like it did in rl. Underpopulation is going to be the major issue Earth faces, not over.

@rhenmerchant5715

Жыл бұрын

Are you wake? The world is clearly on the "Soylent Green" path. The population of the USA has doubled in my lifetime. When I was born the US was at about 160 million, today we are almost 370 million. That means the USA took almost 200 years to get to 160 million and only 50 years to gain another 180 million. We coddle and spend resources on the useless criminals and those that do not contribute to society in any meaningful way. No, the future of the USA and much of the world is Soylent Green.

@hunteralderman4867

Жыл бұрын

@@rhenmerchant5715 the population is only going up because of immigration, look at the populations of places that aren't immigration hotspots, they are almost ALL in population decline. Look at the global fertility rate. Look at births per 10000 people.

@rhenmerchant5715

Жыл бұрын

@@hunteralderman4867 Maybe you should learn to look up data and do math. World population 1950, 2.5 Billion. World population 2019, 7.7 Billion. Even though the birth rate is in decline per "10,000 people" there a shit tone more "10,000 people" than there were 50 years ago. The projected population of 2050 is 9.7 billion and that comes with a significantly reduced estimated birth rate. For example a 1% birth rate of 2.7 billion is 27 million. A 0.5% birth rate of 7.7 billion is 38 million. See how math works!

The society in this movie sounds eerily like a WEF/Klaus Schwab wet moist dream come true! ... the insanity that happened during cov also feels like it was a test run to pave the way for a cult like society like the one in the movie, chilling stuff!

@chainsawsubtlety9828

Жыл бұрын

You're just being a crazy conspiracy theorist. Now, eat your Soylent Green, watch these Ministry-of-Truth-approved shows, consume, breed, pay your taxes and be quiet.

@dermagnus8482

Жыл бұрын

At this point I would be definitive a runner.

@AscendantStoic

Жыл бұрын

@@dermagnus8482 Absolutely!

@AscendantStoic

Жыл бұрын

@@chainsawsubtlety9828 Eat ze boogs and get in ur pod citizen 9828!

@scottcantdance804

Жыл бұрын

@@dermagnus8482 I'm just afraid there won't be anywhere to run to... Or that any wilderness areas will be patrolled with predator drones and terminator units.

The best moment of this movie was as a 15 year old in the mid-1980's trying to pause the video in the VCR at the millisecond that Jenny Aguter gets her kit off in the ice cave

@philregular1465

Жыл бұрын

i make hand party

@dsmyify

Жыл бұрын

You should have gone Walkabout

@diquadhumungersaur492

Жыл бұрын

think film called "walkabout" has some loverly artful shots of ms agutters most curvy naked form..

@IfUfindthisURlost

Жыл бұрын

Pausing VCRs in the 1980's always had the same problem....... there was a line of static across exactly the bit that you wanted to see!

@Horizon344

Жыл бұрын

@@IfUfindthisURlost Exactly, leading to 20 mins messing around with the "tracking" dial thing trying to (unsuccessfully) remove it

The Vulcan salute probably was just an Easter Egg, but it was definitely an intelligent one. After the fall of their "perfect" society, people could indeed live long and prosper.

@braxxian

Жыл бұрын

Well they could prosper. As for live long? not so much.

@wingitprod

Жыл бұрын

No Easter Egg. Just a film extra from Dallas and a nerd

@kathleenhensley5951

Жыл бұрын

I didn't notice it but I've only seen the film once. It is perfect. Live LONG and prosper.

@les4767

Жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure about that. This population cannot take care of itself, having been catered by the system that just went kablooey! Most of them will probably starve or freeze to death in the first year outside of bubble city.

@kelpie1533

Жыл бұрын

The 'live long and prosper' salute does have a real world origin that pre-dates Star Trek, but I'm not sure it's significant here.

Love this movie. Especially when Logan first meets Jessica and so nonchalantly says, “Hi, let’s have sex.”😂

@Daimo83

Жыл бұрын

It's a brave new world

@mjbull5156

Жыл бұрын

It made perfect sense in context. She had put herself into a casual hookup database.

@matt79hz

Жыл бұрын

I think I should pause this review and watch the movie.

@wingitprod

Жыл бұрын

I've tried that line. To be fair, Logan got further than me.

@suitandtieguy

Жыл бұрын

@@Concerned_Bystander been waiting for others to notice this

I remember seeing this movie on TV when I was a kid. Thanks for the walk down memory lane. And to anyone who's never seen it before who might think the look is "cheesy" remember, everything we watch now will look cheesy 50 years in the future.

@scottcantdance804

Жыл бұрын

I think about that every time I watch a movie from the '70s or '80s, and I have a really hard time picturing how intense and realistic things are going to be decades from now. Like, what is it going to be? Full VR immersion with haptic suits and better than photorealistic CGI?

@genghisgahan9623

Жыл бұрын

Well just re-watch the new Indiana Jones trailer, specifically Harrison ford riding a horse and it's not hard to visualise how harsh future criticism will be.

@braxxian

Жыл бұрын

Has the world really "advanced' much since the 70's?. Apart from the internet we are still using the same basic technology of that era, and even the genuine value of the internet is debatable as it has created as many negative aspects as positive ones.. Sure our tech today is a faster leaner version that the 70's but its basically still the same stuff. Genuine technological breakthroughs are pretty rare.

@cateclism316

Жыл бұрын

I saw this on TV as well back in the day...the follow-on TV series wasn't nearly as good

@atomicninjaduck9200

Жыл бұрын

@@braxxian Thank you for that. I was thinking something similar to this a few years back when I was in Costco and looked at the HD TVs and began to wonder "OK, so we have a TV with a slightly better picture than what they got in the 20th century, but is that really that much of a technological advance?"

Oh, it's a very campy and very 70's movie, but Jenny Agutter in her prime does a lot to keep me invested and has done since I first saw it as teenager! The green muzzle flash from the guns is also rather cool too.

@sandman_says_runrunner4701

Жыл бұрын

Campy?! Really?!

@GudieveNing

Жыл бұрын

@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 Yes, most SciFi of those days was campy. Star Wars broke with that thanks to Lucas.

@jameydunne3920

Жыл бұрын

Many of these campy sci-fi movies have more substance or ideas than the shinier, better produced stuff of today. Because all of phase 4 Marvel is better than Logan's Run because it doesn't look campy. Or maybe not. I'll take the lower budget, older tech 'cheese' please

@louisduarte8763

Жыл бұрын

Mmm, Jenny Agutter in the 70's [drools]

@bartsullivan4866

Жыл бұрын

@@jameydunne3920 Me as well all the Green screens look more fake than these old models. These older films made you think as well of how things could actually turn out. You didn't need massive explosions and Michael Bay movies of mass empty destruction, or A Team 1000 shots fired and nobody gets hit and no blood. I am so burnt out on superhero movies sometimes these older films I find much more intriguing. Also the women were beautiful as well as resourceful not in todays cinema where they need no man's help Mary Sue's right out of the gate.

"Like all totalitarian regimes, the system the population lives under can only operate by attempting to transform humanity into something entirely unnatural..." This was a huge insight Dave. I hadn't seen that before. But in hindsight, you are spot on. Thanks for this video.

@ramonandrajo6348

Жыл бұрын

Like USA and China?

@Serahpin

Жыл бұрын

Like how woke "entertainment" sucks. The reason is because it's literally insane (does not conform to reality). Also why good moral messages make for good shows.

@l.marhault

Жыл бұрын

This syndrome can be summarized with the phrase "immanentize the eschaton" for easy deployment in conversation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanentize_the_eschaton

@dansmith1661

Жыл бұрын

@@ramonandrajo6348 China is better than that. It solves its problems.

@ramonandrajo6348

Жыл бұрын

@@dansmith1661 WHAT?!

If you haven't read the book that the movie is based on, I highly suggest it over the film. There are many differences, and the read is overall more enjoyable. There are 3 books in the series, by the way. Enjoy! Edit: To explain just a few differences, The state sanctioned mandatory deaths are at the age of 21 instead of 30. The policy was put in place after war, famine and general tomfuckery occurred which left the globe devastated. A young senator became a strong proponent for the death clause and even went so far as to be the first volunteer to be put to sleep, which made him a martyr. The youth of the day, who had had enough of the "older" people constantly mucking things up, pushed hard for this way of life. And after many, many generations, this has become the way of things. Once born, babies are placed in a "Nursery" where they're taken care of by unthinking, unfeeling machines. The crystal, named the Palm Flower, is installed in their hand at birth, and it changes colors throughout the unnatural life cycle. Starting with blue, at a certain age it turns yellow, then red. On your final day, it begins to blink red and black until finally... black. Time to go to sleep. The populace knows they're going to die. But it's seen as something of a societal norm. It's expected of you to go to a sleep clinic to be put down. It's often a celebrated event, even. Like a birthday. Ironic. Runners are the sane individuals who don't adhere to the state doctrine and want to live. It isn't a matter of believing there IS no life after 21, it's a matter of doing "what's best" ergo, what the state has conditioned you to believe. Peer pressure and a desire to conform to not be seen as the "other". The outsider. Under threat of violence, of course... These runners are hunted down by the Sandmen, and their lives are ended in a less peaceful manner like in the sleep clinics... They're ruthlessly gunned down by a nasty little weapon simply named Gun. A biocoded weapon that cannot be used by anyone other than the sandman assigned to it. It fires a nasty little bullet that not only tracks its target, but once you're hit, it basically obliterates your nerve endings one at a time. You'll die in the most prolonged, unimaginably painful way so as to deter would-be runners from committing the same mistake of wanting to live past 21. I won't spoil a lot for you here. The books are amazing, and capture the details of a dystopian state-run commune far better than the movie does. I highly suggest them.

@darthlaurel

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that recap. I remember seeing the movie after I'd read the book and thinking, "Wait a minute...that's not how it goes....". It was the beginning of a lifetime of saying that about movies.

@hunteralderman4867

Жыл бұрын

I read the book after the movie cause the movie just doesn't make much sense, after reading the book, it things made more sense once you understood what was excluded or changed.

@mrScififan2

Жыл бұрын

I loved the books too. Much better than the movie

@mrScififan2

Жыл бұрын

@@darthlaurel lol! That’s what I said too about the movie!

@starsiegeplayer

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the original book is far better than the movie adaptation in my opinion.

On the subject of 70s dystopian films, Dave should really do Rollerball. It's one of the earliest commentaries on megacorps ruling over everything

@jeffcher10

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, with it's state controlling information.

@truefilm6991

Жыл бұрын

Done.

@planomathandscience

7 ай бұрын

@@jeffcher10 state? Rewatch it.

1970's No Blade Of Grass needs a rebirth of popularity and recognition with regards to the coming global food shortages.

@BigBenn2014

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant book/movie. Could do with a remake. Brutally honest.

@trhansen3244

Жыл бұрын

Food shortages? Even the illegal aliens are mostly overfed.

@olafweyer859

Жыл бұрын

The Omen II has global food control as a side plot. The writers could have chosen anything but they chose this. I'm not religious, but these days it's hard to think of stuff going on as anything but sat*nic.

@kfUNC1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the recommendation. 👍🏾

@olafweyer859

Жыл бұрын

@@kfUNC1 Thank you for yours! I wasn't aware of Blades of Grass!

After the inhabitants of the domed city exit, everyone is amazed by the old man, astounded by outside, rejoicing at their freedom, someone asks a terrifying question. "So, what's for dinner?" Great review. I've always loved this movie.

@braxxian

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. The majority of these people would die out since they have become totally dependent on the machine that runs the city to support them. They have no actual skills to survive alone. A handful might make it, but most wouldn't.

@LoparXL

Жыл бұрын

@@braxxian The old man could have taught them some things.

@divemonkeys

Жыл бұрын

"So, what's for dinner?" These are things that are glossed over in movies like this (still love them). Think about Avengers Endgame. You have a world population that has adjusted with infrastructure and supplies to after the snap, then one instant later its doubled. Where is all the food and housing for those people going to come from?

@Charlotte_Martel

Жыл бұрын

That was my exact thought with Wall-E. The vast majority of those conditioned to be cared for by machines would die (many willingly, I assume) in a brief time if their lives were solely sustained by physical labour.

@mrmanceres7653

Жыл бұрын

Plenty to eat in the frozen cave. :)

Jenny Aguter, simply beautiful. A great film that I watch again every now and then.

@Keopp69

Жыл бұрын

Watch her in American Werewolf in London.

@LymanPhillips

3 ай бұрын

She was lovely in MI5 and is still lovely - although showing her years, in Call the Midwife.

I read that the Vulcan hand salute was done quite randomly by an extra who wanted to distinguish himself in the crowd. And since it was impossible to edit out and there were no other takes of the scene, it was left in the Final Cut of the film.

@princeeverlove

4 ай бұрын

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Great movie, and one thing to remember for people who weren’t alive in 1976 is this was the last big science fiction movie to come out before Star Wars the following year. I have this movie on DVD and I have watched it many times. I think the computer assigned Logan to find sanctuary and reassigned him a as a runner because it was programmed to end life in the domes when the time was right. A large part of the movie was filmed in a shopping mall in the Fort Worth/Dallas, Texas area.

@creatorsfreedom6734

Жыл бұрын

collosus the forbiddin project

@tomkerruish2982

Жыл бұрын

@@creatorsfreedom6734 That came out in 1970.

@headlibrarian1996

Жыл бұрын

@@creatorsfreedom6734 On my todo list, I've never seen it on home video or any streaming site.

I love the hell out of this movie, 70s cheese and all. I have ever since I saw it on television right around the time Star Wars was all the rage.

I love how the only reason that Logan and Jessica don't end up like all the other Runners is because he's the first Runner with a gun. Also, it's been pointed out to me before... what about those babies we saw in the nursery at the beginning? Because it sure doesn't look like anybody thought to go and get those babies while the city is going down in flames at the end. Something to consider.

@planomathandscience

7 ай бұрын

so, kinda funny the fight with francis didn't involve guns, eh?

"Acting is solid all around" "Cough" Farrah Fawcett "Cough" You could build a dinette set from her wooden acting, AND IT WAS ONLY SIX WORDS

I've enjoyed this movie for decades and still rewatch it every few years.

Fair and balanced review of a pretty good film, which I saw in the theater when it premiered. Yes, Michael York was well-cast, and Jenny Agutter's hotness never fades.

@2340Vegas

5 ай бұрын

I always why, when so much in sci-fi movies is copied, Jenny Agutter's outfit wasn't copied, over and over and over?

I really enjoy when you do videos covering these types of topics dude. As fun as shitting on Disney is, your insights and breakdowns of these oldschool sci fi properties are always on point

@the_DNA_and_history_buff

Жыл бұрын

I agree Dave is a great reviewer. I like the classic reviews. Got me to watch Forbidden Planet which I enjoyed!

I find it so strange that dystopian fiction is so popular, yet most people never seem to suspect we might be living in one.

There's actually something you missed David. In the scene with the robot "Box" it's subtly revealed that the food for the city has long expired and now Box captures runners to feed the city. So the dome people have basically unknowingly been reduced to cannibalism. This is also backed up by the reference to the fish tanks being empty before meeting Box. The reality is for the city to continue, there must be runners, but even with runners, the city will eventually fail as they will run out of food.

The book it's based upon is much darker than the movie and if memory serves last day is at 20, there also is a sequel to the book. Worth checking out and a faithful movie/TV series adaptation would be welcome.

@tonygreenfield7820

Жыл бұрын

The short lived TV series wasn't that bad although had a "Incredible Hulk" or "The Fugitive" vibe to it with Logan and Jessica fleeing Francis each week to a new settlement beyond the city. Also had a similar feel to Fantastic Journey and Otherworld TV series.

I think both Logan's Run and Equilibrium are more influenced by 1984, if I remember correctly, the hero in that also starts to question the system and figure out 'freedom'...

@inkermoy

Жыл бұрын

IMO, Logan's Run and Equilibrium follow along more the Fahrenheit 451 mold; an enforcer of the state starts to question or is turned into a rebellious force. 1984 plotwise seems more in tone with Brave New World, which I recently listened to a very good reading on YT.

@dsmyify

Жыл бұрын

Equilibrium follows Fahrenheit 451, Logan's Run is like Brave New World.

This is one of my all-time favorite films. There’s actually quite a lot more that you could’ve said about it and the film had a lot of more complex levels beneath the surface story. Thanks for doing a video on it.

@StreetPreacherr

Жыл бұрын

Great flick, but I never realized just how cheap the miniature models look. Like this establishing shot of the 'tube train' looks like something I made for my model train set! kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKaBrrx9p9ishKw.html

It’s interesting how MPAA ratings have changed over the years with this being PG whilst having a scene with a drug induced orgy. Though, Beneath the Planet of the Apes rated G had the protagonist shot in the head.

@les4767

Жыл бұрын

No kidding. "Jaws" is rated PG despite having Quint eaten alive by the shark feet first by the shark and spitting blood out at the end.

@hunterprice3320

Жыл бұрын

Barbarella is rated pg and you see Jane Fondas boobs lol

@fredleggett923

Жыл бұрын

@@les4767 Star Trek: The Motion Picture garnered a G rating despite the horrific transporter accident sequence (and it is absolutely terrifying and terrible). I can't believe Robert Wise shot such a brutal sequence and the MPAA still deemed it suitable for children. There's also the scene where Ilia gets "derezzed", which is pretty hard to watch, especially when you know it's coming. TMP really should've been rated a solid PG. I'd love to know how the film got away with G.

@tomkerruish2982

Жыл бұрын

@@fredleggett923 I remember reading at the time that Roddenberry wanted a G rating. That doesn't necessarily explain how it got one, just why.

@UndyingNephalim

Жыл бұрын

@@fredleggett923 Even funnier, the Transporter accident scene was printed on the side of McDonald's Happy meal boxes for children to promote the movie.

I remember watching this film in my early teens and Jenny Agutter certainly left a lasting impression!

@securityrobot

Жыл бұрын

What part of her anatomy stood out for you? 🤪

I absolutely love this film (never noticed the vulcan salute). There was a TV series that followed. It sort of worked as a similar scenario to this story, but more of a parallel to the film. I quite enjoyed it.

@fredleggett923

Жыл бұрын

Interesting fact - for the first episode, they had to tone down Carousel for TV so that the victims weren't "exploded", but instead disintegrated. The series gets a little schlocky here and there, but there are some episodes which are remarkably mercenary. It's still a little personally weird to watch Donald Moffat be a quirky android after seeing him in The Thing. TBF, he had a long and rich career, so The Thing was really just another movie for him.

@coecludd

Жыл бұрын

@@fredleggett923 Thanks for the info. I only saw it and reviewed it last year. I enjoyed it. It’s a shame that it only lasted one season 😊

@fredleggett923

Жыл бұрын

@@coecludd The girl who played Jessica, Heather Menzies, was the perfect girl-next-door type and hellaciously cute.

It's been years since I last watched this film. Frightening to think just how relevant it is today,

One of my favorites from my youth as it was one they played a lot on regular TV. Jenny Agutter was an early screen crush.

Appreciated a Blogger who goes back to review classics 😎👊

One of my favorite Sci-Fi movies. The plot holds together well, and the acting was good. Very good review.

Logan’s Run is a movie you will never forget. Watch it.

The "Sandmen" make more sense when you realize in the book there was no carousel... Instead they simply out people to sleep. So Sandmen helped put down people who refused to sleep.

Francis is played by Richard Jordan, he is such an excellent actor, he impressed me since I was a kid, I think the first time I saw him was in the tv mini-series The French Atlantic Affair. Recently I watched The Mean Season for the first time, it's a good enough thriller and he was great as always. To me he is the American version of Alain Delon. - LOOOOVE Logans Run!

@DocMicrowave

Жыл бұрын

He also had a part in the original Dune. I also remember seem in in a small role in The Hunt For Red October.

@sandman_says_runrunner4701

Жыл бұрын

He was also great in "The Secret of My Success".

@olafweyer859

Жыл бұрын

@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 He has that slick, a bit menacing arrogance, but he's not completely unlikeable, I played theater a bit, just a hobbyist group. I couldn't pull this off. Hardly anyone can pull is off. It's puzzling.

@sandman_says_runrunner4701

Жыл бұрын

@@olafweyer859 So true. It is a real talent to be able to make people like and dislike you at the same time. While being understated the whole time. Actually, the whole cast in "Logan's Run" was almost better than it deserved. With Farrah Fawcett's feature film debut being the cherry on top.

@olafweyer859

Жыл бұрын

@@sandman_says_runrunner4701 Oh, man, Farrah Fawcett

they need to remake this but with York playing the old guy, that would be awesome

"Carousel". I saw this as a kid when it first came out and Omega Man too, both great movies.

Great movie. I remember being terrified by box as a kid. “Fish, plankton, sea greens... protein from the sea!”

There was a short-lived TV series after the film as well. No Michael York or Jenny Agutter but it did feature the late Donald Moffat (later to appear in John Carpenter's The Thing) as a recurring character. Very similar in quality and feel to the Planet of the Apes TV show, which didn't last very long either...

A true scifi classic. There was also a TV series which had DC Fontana and several other Star Trek writers on staff.

One of, if not my favourite dystopian movies.

Logan's Run shares the Visual Effects Oscar 1976 with King Kong, the only time two separate films shared that award!

I only saw this movie for the first time last year, and I was so pleased I found it, what a great new experience it was. I'll definitely watch it again at some point

This is the one “future dystopia” that is more like a “present problem” in my eyes lol compared to 1984 or any of the many others

@Zeriel00

Жыл бұрын

Yea at least in this movie they get something out of their sacrifice. In real life "we will own nothing and be happy"

@Daimo83

Жыл бұрын

@@Zeriel00 1984 is definitely happening. Putin is Goldstein and the war exists simply to consume resources and human potential.

They filmed much of the movie in the Dallas/Ft Worth area back in 1975, where I grew up. The black Sandman HQ was the Zales Jewelry tower. The water treatment facility at the edge of the city was the Ft Worth Water Gardens, which still look the same today. A couple of our substitute teachers had roles as extras in the film.

It reminds me of Neil Postman's book Amusing Ourselves To Death in the way we have let lies be accepted as long as we get to live in a state of delusion that gives us all the trappings of a dream to live by .. i see how we are waking headline into our own version of this by creativity having no art that reflects back to make us question things. to have the mirror just feed us what we want and never make us think .. that is how we will enter into another darkened age.

@kyleshockley1573

Жыл бұрын

_"...having no art that reflects back to make us question things."_ I get the impression that most bigwigs in media and art think like most 20th Century revolutionaries, that they've "reached the end of history" so to speak, they their struggle is the most righteous and everything against it and them is evil. And so all of the questioning they were allowed of society then, _ist verboten_ now, "because hey, we've already answered all of that, and it turned out to be in our favor conveniently enough. No more questions, please. Blacklists exist for those who ask the wrong things." And so anyone else below them that does art gets the memo through osmosis, and they tend to just reflect safe, corporate branding. Nostalgia is the perfect drug to keep the corporate narrative going and to divert interest away from new things that might break with that narrative.

@scottmcfadyen293

Жыл бұрын

@@kyleshockley1573 Sounds like you have read Postman good sir. he mentions that the younger generation has no sense of a connection to history and they would rather fill the connection of time with false senses of passages - nostalgia. it very much becomes a drug to hold history hostage to a broken field of though. an easy to sell to a child of no history.

@kyleshockley1573

Жыл бұрын

@@scottmcfadyen293 Nope, hadn't heard of Postman til your comment, but I'll check him out now. Thanks for the ref.

This has always been one of my favorite movies.

Thanks for reviewing this. I’ve loved this film since I was a kid! I’ve not read the books or seen the TV series but the movie, with its rich world-building and competent screenplay has always been special for me. Of course, when I first saw it as a kid, any real world relevance was lost on me. Now, I see it’s up there with 1984 and Brave New World.

@DocMicrowave

Жыл бұрын

Same here, thought the movie was amazing. The TV series,not so much.

@ressljs

Жыл бұрын

I think I saw the movie as a kid, but I don't really remember it. I do have the TV show on DVD. I consider it a glorious example of 70's sci-fi that's both cheesy and enjoyable. The first episode seems to be a 40 minute rehash of the movie (with different actors). After that, every episode is Logan, Jessica and an additional side kick travel around, running into various groups of people surviving outside the City of Domes while being pursued by Francis. But of course, none of the places they find are Sanctuary where the other runners have fled. Quality definitely varies. A few episodes are cringy, but some are quite good.

@ericmiller5603

Жыл бұрын

@@ressljs Interesting. Thanks for the information on the TV series. I’d definitely like to check it out:)

good movie, it's also amusing in how they treat kids as ferrals until they hit a certain age and their crystal "awakes"

Just another one of those weird future movies from a time of good cinema that I watched religiously at 3:00 in the morning and explains why I used to sleep through gym class. Memories... 😊

I remember going to the cinema watching Logan's Run but for some reason had to watch it stood up, can't remember why ...

I saw this as a teenage in the Late'70's as a "TV Movie of the Week" which used to be a big deal It looked so much different from the world of the present we couldn't imagine anything like it Fast forward 40 plus years to today... And Holy Sh_t! We’re on the precipice of something like that... Plenty of sheep that would willing go to Carousel if "Big Government' told them it was for their own good

I'm in my 30s and I love collecting these older films and even found Soylent Green as well. Lots of older neighbors in my small community I live in love how I enjoy the movies they know of and let's face it modern movies are quite boring.

I recently re-watched this. A childhood favorite from the 70s. This came out a year before Star Wars and a year after Rollerball. It holds up better than the original Westword (1973) film, which got a little campy.

@dermagnus8482

Жыл бұрын

Rollerball and original Westworld are still favorites of mine

A classic. "Logan's Run" makes my top 12 Science fiction films list.

@Vingul

Жыл бұрын

Do you have the whole list?

@les4767

Жыл бұрын

@@Vingul Sure. My top 12 Science Fiction films, not ranked. 12. Logan's Run(1976) 11. Planet of the Apes(1968) 10. The Day the Earth Stood Still(1951) 9. Forbidden Planet(1956) 8. 2001 A Space Odyssey(1968) 7. Close Encounters of the Third Kind(1977) 6. The Matrix(1999) 5. WALL-E(2008) 4. Blade Runner(1982) 3. Star Wars(1977)-technically Science Fantasy, but I'm counting it here 2. Back to the Future(1985) 1. Fantastic Voyage(1966) Honorable Mentions: Enemy Mine(1985) War of the Worlds(1953) The Terminator(1984) Jurassic Park(1993) The Incredible Shrinking Man(1957) Escape from New York(1981) Outland(1981) Superman The Movie(1978) The Blob(1958/1988) both great The Fly(1958/1988) both great Avatar(2009) Moon(2009) Interstellar(2014) Dune(1984/2021) Just off the top of my head. What're yours?

@Vingul

Жыл бұрын

@@les4767 Cool, thanks! Without considering much or ordering them neatly - and taking inspiration from your list: Top 4: Blade Runner Solaris (1972) 2001: A Space Odyssey Dune (1984) Also: The Thing Silent Running Escape from New York Star Wars Brazil (I think, been a long time) Total Recall Soylent Green Akira They Live Stalker would be high up there, but I don’t really consider it science fiction. «Roadside Picnic», which Stalker is based on, is definitely a (good) science fiction novel.

@les4767

Жыл бұрын

@@Vingul Yeah, if I'd thought of them, Brazil, Total Recall and Soylent Green would've at least made my honorable mentions. Good calls. Which version of Solaris were you thinking of?

@les4767

Жыл бұрын

Oh....you did identify which Solaris...sorry. The remake with George Clooney is good too.

This was one of the films that I saw many times throughout my youth back in the 1980s and onward, and I'd watch this with my parents on occasion. It is indeed memorable, though I did not fully appreciate nor understand all the themes back then. My dad had an issue of Video Review magazine that had a lengthly article describing the backstory of Logan's Run and offered more insights into it's setting. Unfortunatley, I lost that magazine many years ago.

one of my fav movies of all time. many saturn references, clock noises in the ai room, the ritual was calling for capricorn, muladhara on the bottom of the ritual space, the sandmens dress, name, function and status, .. also, there are some garden eden vibes imo, how the domes work and jessica is like the snake guiding logan out by descending through sewers. theres definitely a lot of esoteric stuff in it, like the life phases in chakra colours.. oh and btw i forgot to mention theres a tv show too, this wasnt the pilot though, they remade it with different actors.

This was good. Please keep pointing out good shows and movies. I always thought of Logan Run's as some futuristic way of dealing with the elderly. In that society they deal with an aging population by killing them.

@bumblebee9337

Жыл бұрын

30 is rather young. 40 would be more reasonable.

@danielrudolf5441

4 ай бұрын

@@bumblebee9337 In the novel it's 21. The movie changed it to 30 because the producers didn't want to cast teenagers.

@bumblebee9337

4 ай бұрын

@@danielrudolf5441 How can you have fun when you're terminated so young? Was the novel about a hedonistic culture as depicted in the movie?

@danielrudolf5441

4 ай бұрын

@@bumblebee9337 Yes, sort of. The movie is very different and IMO better. In the novel people at 21 go to die in a "sleepshop", e.g. an euthanasia facility instead of the carousel. And there is a sanctuary, it's an old abandoned Mars colony where runners escape with space rockets launched from the old Cape Kennedy.

I remember that there was a TV series too. But the movie was way better. I find those special effects and so well done models endearing. Michael York was perfect for the role. The girl was gorgeous. Richard Jordan was later the corageous Duncan Idaho in the cult movie "Dune". And Peter Ustinov... "Quo Vadis"... The peplum movies of our childhood. I have seen this movie many times and here I have to recommend another very similar one: "TXH 1138", which is even older. My infancy was spent among that kind of movies and Carl Sagan's Cosmos TV series. If I am as I am today, it is thanks to these magnificent works. As always, Dave, nice to hear you talk about science fiction. Are you sure it will still be science fiction today? It seems that we live in a kind of prequel to so many dystopian movies: Soylent Green, 1984 and, of course, this one. I just hope this straightens out, we have a lot to say in this, resisting the horror of a totalitarian planned state. We can make a difference!

@carlrood4457

Жыл бұрын

The TV series starred Gregory Harrison (Gonzo from Trapper John, M.D.) as Logan. It's a fairly typical "on the run" type show. The TV series, Planet of the Apes was similar. The channel, Stam Fine, which does overviews of mainly 70's & 80's TV and movies (mostly sci-fi and fantasy) did an overview of the series not to long ago.

@dsmyify

Жыл бұрын

The girl? The. Girl? That's Jenny Agutter!

@akratlapidus2390

Жыл бұрын

@@dsmyify Jenny Agutter, of course. Sorry but here in Spain is totally unknown. But she is lovely and I remember this movie greatly because of her.

Excellent movie. I love Jenny Agutter in that green dress.

The Allegory of the Cave, Plato was quite impressive.

Jenny Agutter was definitely a 9 not a 6.

Thank you for this! One of my favorite, I secretly wish it could be rebooted but it would be horribly carouseled into woke.

An irony and yet still relative to events going on today after 2020. Food for thought.

I've realized the connections to Brave New World.

Let’s be honest, the real reason for watching Logan’s Run is Jenny Agutter getting her kit off 😂

@CowboyRobot2000

Жыл бұрын

Totally.

I definitely would like to watch it, I've vaguely heard about it before but this made me really want to see it, especially as it's starting to mirror modern society

@mygodisyahweh8634

Жыл бұрын

It's a great movie. Also Soylent Green. Planet of the Apes 1968 version. A Clockwork Orange. Many more.

@Fairly-odd-kel

Жыл бұрын

@@mygodisyahweh8634 oh I love A Clockwork Orange but I'll definitely check out the rest! Thank you for the recommendation! 😊

I saw it in theater, first run. It was a mind blowing film, particularly with the theme of questioning authority and oversight. Remember when that was "cool"? Loved the old man and his empire of cats! The TV show was OK, given the things things that had to modified for the change of media. The film was top drawer.

There’s a story similar to this in the second season of Love Death + Robots. But, it’s children that are killed.

Carousel is '100% safe and effective'

Have you done Dark City?

I'd point out that while the inhabitants know they are watching people be obliterated during the Carrousel ritual, most people believe they will be "renewed", effectively reincarnated. Logan and Francis discuss it in a nursery, suspecting that one of the newborns is actually a renewed colleague of theirs, and later Logan asks Francis if he has ever actually seen someone renewed, to which Francis responds in the affirmative but he is clearly lying and quickly changes the subject. Later Logan deduces through the instructions given by the master control computer (which runs everything) that no one, ever, has been renewed, and is understandably shocked. The system is in balance, just not in the way anyone believes.

The 1000's of extras, were chosen from; upper class, Dallas, Texas, high school students. I remember the movie being filmed, and you are correct, it was filmed at local shopping malls!!! That is most likely we're the Vulcan hand sign came in, as a lot of rich kids into Sci-Fi were picked as extras, and the director tried to get locals to: "Buy into the idea of no one under 30..." It is scary to see so many go along with the movie theme. For better understanding, read the history of Dallas and it's 1970's technology boom.

Its amazing how many older classics I saw years ago without knowing it. I remember as a child seeing the very last of this movie and my mother explaining that they had never seen an old person before.

The outdoor water feature in the 3rd act is the Fort Worth Water Gardens. It's beautiful in person.

This is a classic for a reason. Thanks for bringing it up

the city set prop was eventually used in tng episodes representing risa, so star trek easter egg came full circle

I work just a couple blocks away from the Water Gardens featured at the end of the film. Of all the locations in D/FW the film was shot at, only two remain. Of those two, only the Water Gardens are recognizable, as the Dallas Market Center has been remodeled several times since 1976.

5:31 was filmed fifteen minutes away here in Fort Worth, TX at the Fort Worth Water Garden! So awesome to see it when it was brand new.

The original book had a much younger age of termination, but the actors they hired were too old to play teens, so they raised the age to 30 for the movie.

I remember this from when I was a kid. It really fit the time in America as enclosed shopping malls seemed to be taking over. Also, boomer generation "youth culture" was still very much a thing. There was also a TV series.

Always loved this film, however, I think at the end when all the citizens are "free", they wouldn't last 5 minutes in the wilderness, they have no idea of how to survive outside the nanny society they grew up in.

@dermagnus8482

Жыл бұрын

Like all today leftoids.

Brilliant film. Another movie I think was inspired by it is Michael Bay's "The Island."

Michael York is a great actor. I listened to the audiobook of “Brave New World” read by him & he did a phenomenal job

The society in Ayn Rand's Anthem is more likely what such a dystopian nightmare would become. People lose the ability to fix things and everything breaks apart if they're coddled. With electricity gone they go back to the stone age.

@ursusthewhite9824

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. The so called happy ending really isn’t. Most of the city dwellers will die because they do not know how to anything to mitigate their survival.

To esplain how old a Science Fiction fan I am, the first convention I went too had sandmen chasing scantily clad runners around the hotel. I bought a set of "life crystals" you could use spirit gum to glue to your hand. It was the first non Star Trek moment where the costumes became a staple at conventions in the following years.

I just rewatched this yesterday, for the first time in 30 years

As a child of the 70’s, this was a great movie. Seeing it now, it’s very dated. However, the message is still true of individual freedom still holds true.

I saw Equilibrium and literally have not thought about it again til now. I remember Logan's Run fondly.

Fun fact this movie has a prequel TV show.

Ah. This is the movie with Jenny Agutter and that other actor. Loved the futuristic look and story line. A classic!

I liked it when Michael York took out his adamantium claws and called the bad guy "bub".

Slightly off-topic: Equilibrium is a damn awesome movie.

I love a good dystopian. I love how writers project ideas into the future as warnings. George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four, Margaret Attwood's Handmaid's Tale, H M Sealey's This Broken Land. The books are usually better than the films though. A good dystopian can chill you like nothing else. Just finished re-reading H M Sealey's The Privileged Few which is about a government with two major focuses - keeping everyone completely safe and on a timetable so they have no free time whatsoever, but also providing all needs, including housing, a job and a sexual partner. But also redressing pasty oppressions by keeping people on a "Strata System" so that straight white men are at the bottom and historically oppressed minorities are at the top. It left me with the same chills as when I read Nineteen Eighty Four and also has shades of Ben Elton's Blind Faith - another of my favourites.

It's funny you mention Equilibrium, because I do like that film, but I noticed it was sort of a "Greatest Hits" sort of film, drawing inspiration from many different dystopian films both past and more contemporary to when it was made, and not just in the writing but in the camera work, framing and visuals. There's Logan's Run, Farenheight 451, Brave New World, visuals from Blade Runner here and there, it's an amazing mash-up.

I love the film. And a great unique Jerry Goldsmith score

Ironically I just rewatched Logan’s run along side little big man, given the creatively vacuum that is hollywood these days, rewatching old classic films like this is like a glass of water to a dehydrated man in the Sahara desert a god send, you are right despite it’s dated look logans run still hold up today. Lol the Vulcan salute. I found going back to old films are much more enjoyable than anything put out in the last 15 years.. notable watches Kim the man who would be king and the original Italian job. And yes soylant green as others have mentioned and Let’s not forget the original planet of the apes.

This deserves a remake. (looks at the current crop of remakes.) On second thought, this is fine.