Do a survey, I bet most people want a button, a tactile device. As I work in automotive, they were on there way to full touch panels in some models of the brand I work on, eliminating a simple volume button. Thankfully after some market research they put the volume knob back on the panel. Though I still enjoy the look and function of steam gauges and the mechanical parts of them I realize moving to digital screens is a good thing for some. Great series so far.

I am also not convinced touch screens are "the one true way" for everything. In addition to being difficult to use in bouncy situations, they just stay dirty/greasy. I would hate trying to look at my instruments in bright sun with a bunch of fingerprints on it.

@JohnSuave

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can't stand new vehicles with all touch screens, can't imagine how annoying it'd be in a plane lol

@BennHerr

2 жыл бұрын

Having that "bent" panel on the bottom of the display is genius. Being able to steady your hand with your fingers and then press the button you want with your thumb is perfect. Try tuning the radio on your car while driving. You just about have to brace your arm on the face or trim to do it. Be a lot more important while flying to get it right!

@MD-ob1gq

2 жыл бұрын

@@BennHerr I totally agree! Countless times I've punched the wrong nav key or radio button on a Garmin in choppy flight. Always thought there should be a rail to guide your fingers. And I also hate looking at greasy finger pri to on touchscreens! Dust sucks too.

@louissanderson719

Жыл бұрын

Gulf Stream have come up with a nifty solution for that in their new aircraft lol

@GlensHangar

Жыл бұрын

After about 80 hours of flying with this system - the touch screens aren't a problem at all. Anything / Everything that you do with the touch screen can also be done with a physical knob or button when you get into rough air. Cleaning the screen before every flight has become a checklist item... because I too hate finger smudges on the screens.

The amount of progress on the plane in such a short period of time is fantastic! Dynon obviously has it going on, and it’s good you are showcasing their equipment. Looking forward to your first trip!

just recently found your channel and got caught up yesterday. well done, this is in my opinion a perfect pace for a restoration series. and of course, everything looks beautiful

I'm surprised how good the gray looks on that panel, it looks really modern and clean!

@tonywilson6032

2 жыл бұрын

Grey is the new magnolia - as my decorator has just said lol

Hey Glen, as an electronic technician just an FYI, dirty cooling fans are the leading cause of component failure. Put cleaning them on your to do list a minimum of once a year.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Good tip!

That panel looks amazing and even though it's nearly 60 years newer than the airframe it doesn't look out of place at all! Congratulations!

Love the contrast between the classic aircraft and the 21st century technology.

@dmn01

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts too. I'm realy enjoying this build.

This has been a really cool journey to watch and be apart of!

Aww man, such a fun build. Thanks for ride!

In my maintenance department I work at we have a saying: "Don't kill the job". It's basically that it's better to do the job right than to do the job right now. That sky net cable being too big or small just reminded me of that and good on you for doing what you feel is right for your plane! It looks awesome 😎 love this series please keep at it.

This is turning out to be such an interesting series. Thank you so much Glen for taking the extra time to document it and sharing it!

wow -- huge episode. one major step forward in getting flying again! the grey panel makes a lot of sense -- contrast between panel and instrument will especially help in night flights (all-black panels can "absorb" the less lit-up instruments to my eyes), and grey always looks clean and dust-free. the cable mass reminded me of working waist-deep in Navy P-3 avionics bays decades ago..

Love your cooking channel and love this channel even more! Please keep making great content!

What a great feeling when you spend hours wiring up a computer or electronics device and it boots up first try, well done!

The paint job looks fantastic!

Really enjoyed watching the progress on the plane. Looking forward to your future air adventures.

Really interesting project. Thanks for bringing us along.

All we have have to do next is convince Glen to get another aircraft to work on when this is finished!

Can’t wait to see her fly.

Thank you so very much for sharing I’m this adventure.

Thanks for the series. I’m living vicariously through these videos. I’ve always wanted to pilot my own plane. Unfortunately, could never afford either time or money, sometimes both. I was fortunate enough to fly over 1000 hours as an observer in a rotor wing. Thanks

Very jealous of that panel! Looks great!

Wow! That looks way better than my '62 172C panel

So exciting to see this baby reborn. Can't wait for her maiden.

Glen, ADSB was active for 30 minutes! A great start to the new adventure.

That panel came out great! Looks like the old girl's really coming together. She's going to be one fine bird when you're all done!

Glen, I can't tell you how much I look forward to these vlogs! Thank you for sharing your experience!

Nice hat. I've got one just like it. 😉

I hit "like" in the first 32 seconds.

More great, hard work!

Awesome series Glen.

Great video - makes a Friday extra special.

Awesome panel. Looks amazing.

Looks great! Keep up the good work.

It's always exciting to see a new update. Panel looks great

Enjoy your videos!

I *LOVE* it when a package arrives!! Great job, Glen!

All I think of when I see your registration is Fuel Metering Valve lol. Loving consistent content from both channels :)

Christmas morning?! Glen....beautiful! The grey is awesome. Very cool.

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished panel!

That panel looks mint. Totally agree on the tactile switches.

I completely agree with your preference for tactile buttons. That Dynon HDX looks great!

First seconds could hardly be more canadian: having to move the Timmy out of the way lol

Very cool! Looking forward to the calibration process and seeing everything coming together.

You’re doing a great job.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Glen, I envy you! I would love to do exactly what you're doing! Your "new" Cessna will be a very impressive example! Love that new panel!

That content around the 7:00 mark was real _riveting stuff_ Glen... Cheers,

Looks great, impressed with the Dynon gear so far. Looking forward to seeing more of its set up. Love the panel colour, my have to “borrow” that when I get to doing mine. Keep up the good work 👋🇬🇧

I agree on tactile buttons vs touchscreen.

Hi Glen, although it is not finished yet, it really looks great and already starting to be complete. Congratulations with the accomplishment so far!

The plane is looking great (I love the red and chrome). It is kind of weird that I found you when i was learning how to make my own beer, and then further my cooking knowledge. Then being an Av Geek myself there you were again... Love the videos, your commitment is very admirable..

Looks great, Glen! I also agree re: touch-screens. I have a 3/4 ton van RV and even bouncing around on the highway can make it difficult to tap the GPS screen without another finger on a side of the unit as an anchor point. I would find real buttons for "volume up", "volume down" and "shut up now" very helpful. ;)

Nice panel layout. I flown six different airliner semi glass and glass cockpits with brown green and grey panels. The grey panel is the best all around. You obviously put a lot of thought in to ergonomics and possible future upgrades. Nice job.

That’s a good look at airplane

I put in a Realistic brand under-dash 8-track player in my car in 1977. So basically I could wire an airplane too. :P J/K Looking good Glen!

That's a great looking panel! We are enjoying watching your restoration journey. Your paint and polish scheme is also really nice too! Oh! And the mixing of the regular speed working sounds with the speed up work is a nice touch.

Looking great! Nice to see it all coming together.

Yahooooooo!

Myself, I would have gotten the USB port installed right next to the registration number above the display. And also a cap to keep it covered when not in use.

ooooooooo a 252 Mooney in the background!!

This has come along so well! You've put a lot of time and effort into this, what'll you do when it's done?

Love the look of the panel. Looks exactly like the panels in the Apollo CM and Space Shuttle. Fitting as this was (presumably) in production right around the same time as their flights!

Wow! That looks great! When is the first flight?

No, it's not just you who prefers buttons in bumpy environments. Touch screens are nice but not when you're in turbulence or crossing ditches or fighting rough trails.

Every day is Christmas day.

What did Chris drop at Time stamp 3:55, he ends up crawling around looking for it and your camera angle caught it! Amazing.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

That Mooney he was working on has a large panel that can be taken off the belly - pretty much exposes the entire inner workings under the floor of the plane without having to remove the interior. Looks like he was wiping off a years worth of engine oil and grime.

Curious question: Do you or should you use Loctite on the data bundle cable connectors when you put the panel together durning final assembly?

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting question - none of the instal instructions mention doing this, and all of the cable connectors have two bolts / screws connecting them. None of the wiring from the old clockwork gauges was secured with loctite either; so I don't think it's necessary.

@CerebralDad

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlensHangar I just ask because everything else that has a thread requires security wire or some sort of extra safety measure to ensure that part doesn't come loose due to vibration. I tend to overthink things a lot - thanks for entertaining my question.

I work in an industry that is increasingly going to touch screens. One of my most common service calls of late is the touch screen doesn't work. Are the Sky View cables dynamic or are they sequential addressing?

Plane and panel are looking great. I would love to talk to you about the dynon system as I’m thinking of doing a dynon panel in a plane I’m building.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Your in Southern Ontario too? Once we've got it all sorted out, we could meetup and you can ask all the questions you want and see the Dynon in action.

@MrCraiglog

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlensHangar That would be great. I’m over to edenvale quite often so that would be great. Thanks. I’m in Lindsay/Port Perry area.

Curious why the slot below the yoke vs a hole.?

Glen, How can you resist and not throw it together and go for a fly? I mean engines on, controls work and now with avionics it's real and a thing again lol. You far more disciplined than me, I would be like, "I will tie those up later and I know how much fuel I got lets got try this out" haha. It's coming along breathing with life, and -35? these video's must be a couple week behind.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Yes - at this point the wait was painful! But I found us slowing down and becoming more methodical at this juncture in the process. No need for 'Get There-Itis'; crashing on the test flight and ending up on @blancolirio or @Probable Cause: Dan Gryder I love their channels, but don't want to be the subject of one of their de-briefs. The videos are 6-8 weeks behind at this point; trying to give myself breathing space to do the work, my regular job, and the cooking channel.

I assume this is a few months ago so is she actually flying now as of late Feb?

I am assuming that every single one of those plugs follows the USB third try to get it in the right orientation rule.

Did you install ADSB in and out with your transponder? Cheers from Winnipeg.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

I did - ADSB in and out. But for now it just works on the 'American' frequencies while Dynon sorts out how to tackle what Canada and the rest of the world will be using with the space based system. Looks like they will have a solution shortly, that will just plug and play with what's already installed. The addition of one box and a top mounted antenna.

Question for Glen or someone who might know. Glen mentioned he optioned against adding USB ports into the panel. At the very end of the video, I noticed at the bottom of the left panel was a small round port that looked like it had two USB ports. Is that for a different purpose?

@SweetChuckPi

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it is for power for a yoke mounted tablet and cellphone.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Yes those USB ports are solely for powering accessories - iPads, Cameras, etc.

Are You installing "wheel pants "when everything is said and done?.Greetings from Erlanger Kentucky.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Nope - no pants for me.

Personally, I wouldn't have rivited the panel to the frame if at all possible. Bolts would have been easier to remove in the future if you needed to expand or change anything.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

It is bolted - I just used clekos as a faster way to attach it while I was working on it.

@MicahMesser

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlensHangar good deal! Glad to see the new panel and the HDX looks great.

It looks like a large portion of the original stationary panel was removed near the center stack location - this would be considered a major modification by the FAA. Is this treated differently on Canadian aircraft?

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

The stationary panel was changed sometime in the mid-1980s - with all of the appropriate paperwork in the logs and submitted to Transport Canada. It was done so long ago, I don't really have an answer. It was however heavily re-enforced with extra bracing that we left in place.

Apollo panel

Would it still be a logical Upgrade to put 1 7” in my old 172? I want to upgrade, but I can’t go this big expense wise.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

1 screen would work just fine - Here's a pricing rundown: www.dynoncertified.com/pdfs/Price-Sheet-single-web.pdf www.dynoncertified.com/aml.php#amlpricing

@mopar92

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlensHangar They are absolutely going to get my vote. It’s time to dethrone Garmin’s price monopoly. Fantastic build, and avionics upgrade video. Thanks for posting all of these for us to look at!

Sixpackaero website is not available for public. Is it another way to contact them? Are they in Canada or US? Can you share the price you paid for the panel?

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Try Lyle through his FB page: facebook.com/SixPackAero

Don't forget the ethernet cable that goes between the 2 displays.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Yep - we put that in.

Have any estimates on the weight loss you are expecting?

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

Yes - but the weight savings won't be as big as everyone expects. I suspect if you randomly pulled a certified GA plane off the line and weighed it; then compared the actual weight with the weight and balance sheet in the logs... most if not all would be 10% - 20% heavier than logged. As much as I've stripped out a lot of stuff, we've added back with newer safety items.

@PatrickEvans07

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlensHangar yes when we did.a weight and balance on my 172 it was heavier after taking weight out. Go figure.

Just letting you know you can see the address on the box @00:14

It's not just you....

I'm kind of surprised you can't just hotspot your smartphone and connect the Dynon to the phone via wifi and update it that way.

@flyingoverthehills

2 жыл бұрын

Updates are via USB only. You can get the wifi adapters for the skyview displays and connect to your phone for traffic and flight plans via apps like foreflight.

Plug and play has always been plug and pray in my experience...

i know it will never happen, but I would love for my wife and I to be able to fly with you. It would be so cool!

🤓👌👍🖖✌😎

if it's not too late maybe reconsider putting USB ports back on. You can always plug your mobile devices to charge.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

We put in 4 dedicated USB charge ports

First

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Great stuff, Glen. I'm really happy you were able to get Dynon in Canada, and I think you're going to have a wonderful 172 when you get finished with this. When you redo the interior part, are you going to swap out the yokes for something newer? www.avion.com/CessnaControWheels/CessnaControlWheels.html Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing the airplane when it's finished. One of Dynon's biggest 'selling features' is that canted switch panel and a place to 'land your hand' so that if you are using the touch screen feature, you have somewhere to plant your hand to keep it still.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

I'm probably going to hang on to the yokes for now - In the future I may upgrade so I can integrate the PTT button, but that would be the only reason; trim and flaps are all mechanical in this plane.

@GaryMCurran

2 жыл бұрын

@@GlensHangar I haven't looked, but I'm guessing this 172 probably isn't covered under the Dynon Autopilot STC? Doesn't matter, I guess, I know however it turns out, you're going to have a great airplane and you're going to be very happy with it. I'm looking forward to your next video.

@GlensHangar

2 жыл бұрын

This model isn't covered for the autopilot - would have been nice to have, but I probably won't miss it all that much.