1440p/60fps would have been a sweet spot for performance mode. Such a shame that it's limited to 1080p. Hoping for a future patch.

@axcelblack2808

2 жыл бұрын

They truly don't give a fuck

@PenguinYayOne

2 жыл бұрын

And maybe some kind of 60FPS 1080p performance RT mode, like what Insomniac did in Spider-Man and Ratchet & Clank

@robovader7625

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, not gonna buy it before that.

@krzysiekgoralsky2207

2 жыл бұрын

@@robovader7625 Why? If you like the game for it's gameplay, setting and the story graphics shouldn't really matter. I just finished Dying Light 1 on PS5, which runs the 30fps 1080p PS4 version, had a blast.

@gtxtesting6143

2 жыл бұрын

@@PenguinYayOne Insomniac did 1440p with min 1080p drop thats master peace

The RT shadows look nice but I can't lose the 30fps from my parkour just to get them. Movement is this game's biggest draw for me and I want it to feel the best it can.

@nonyabusiness6084

2 жыл бұрын

You mean 60fps? Quality Mode with RT shadows is 30fps.

@WarHog4ever

2 жыл бұрын

@@nonyabusiness6084 You lose 30 frames by dropping from 60 to 30. If he lost 60 frames it would be a still image. 😅

@TheAETHER22

2 жыл бұрын

If the 2nd dying light game has anywhere close the longevity of the first, then it's a feature to be used after 2 more generations of graphics cards. Not now with your 1050ti. Don't be so short minded

@mordecaiwayne652

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Mental choice that. There needs to be 60fps with a balance of rt features. Metro did it well.

@Captain-Chats

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree but the cost of dropping to 1080p is a kick in the balls

I wish we could have Ray Tracing and 60 FPS at 1080P.

@mg7651

2 жыл бұрын

@@ImPrateekB speak right

@callumdointhings5

2 жыл бұрын

@@mg7651 If you read it in the voice of a ridiculous door-to-door salesman with a funny accent it makes sense. "yaHAAAh, well a beefy GPooooU could give ya what ya need!"

@KarlRock

2 жыл бұрын

​@@ImPrateekB Ram Ram Bhai. I haven't joined the PC Master Race... yet. I've loved consoles and modding since I was a kid.

@mg7651

2 жыл бұрын

@@ImPrateekB Speak right.

@PenguinYayOne

2 жыл бұрын

Long live Insomniac Games!

I think a 1080p output is unacceptable for the new consoles. Disappointed that there's no dynamic resolution and seemingly no modern upscaling method in use here. And what's with the missing tree shadows on xbox?

@noallegiances8676

2 жыл бұрын

Agree 💯%, anything under 4k 60fps is unacceptable on new consoles, i under the impression that ps5 hardware is capable of 4k 60fps what am i missing here??

@victuz

2 жыл бұрын

@@noallegiances8676 The thing is, you people were scammed into thinking the next-gen hardware is capable of running games at 4K High on 60fps. They are too weak to do that, specially when crossgen games stop being produced and next gen AAA start getting made.

@skaterhaube6026

2 жыл бұрын

I think the issue is when they promised 4k 60fps RT they meant with last gen games and not future games

@victuz

2 жыл бұрын

@@skaterhaube6026 Still, either they were telling half truths or the public is super naive.

@skaterhaube6026

2 жыл бұрын

@@victuz it's more like clever marketing but at the same time they aren't half wrong either. Having stronger hardware just means developers can be lazier when developing games

I can live without RT but I won't settle on 30 fps. I am quite disappointed that I have to dip down to 1080p with a next gen console to achieve 60fps. Fake 4k or 1440p would do just fine on a larger 4K screen. Use dynamic resolution if you have to.

@mrbobajango7482

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree. Very surprised to see the safety of 1080p at 60 only

@underhillat

2 жыл бұрын

ikr, it is a bit ridiculous.

@eljusticiero322

2 жыл бұрын

There's tons of dynamic 4K 60 games

@jonathanfernandez6916

2 жыл бұрын

Xbox series S 30fps? Terrible optimitation!

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanfernandez6916 i own the series s and im disapointed, but im still gonna enjoy the game regardless. it should look decent on my 1440p monitor, and i played the first game at 30fps for years so it doesnt bother me too much. seeing as techland dont use dynamic resolution its probably going to be 1080p on one x as well

I wish that the quality and performance modes gave us 1440p, instead of 1080p. Insomniac has spoiled us with it.

@psvitaoled197

2 жыл бұрын

This engine man it’s terrible

Thanks, you guys. I made a comment on the previous video that I wish you would always make a recommendation of which mode you should play in on each console. Sounds like Ray tracing is well worth considering so I'll check it out!

30 FPS needs to go along with 2013 hardware.

Wish they managed to push the resolution above 1080p in performance mode. For this type of game, 60fps should be the standard and now it's going to look pretty blurry on 4k TVs.

@kennethjones7129

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts.

@ellogames96

2 жыл бұрын

1440p would have been perfect.

@KindOldRaven

2 жыл бұрын

@Okiwaga97 Tbh old gen barely did 4k 30. 90+% of all ''4k'' titles were upscaled/checkerboarded 4k only and mostly at 1440p max. But consoles just need some good upscaling. DLSS 2.+ is convincing as hell. If AMD drops a newer version I'm sure the pro versions of the consoles will be all over it. I just hope the current ones get to benefit too.

@williamcrms

2 жыл бұрын

Really strange that they aren't using dynamic resolution scaling to hit higher resolutions since it seems like the game easily hits 60fps in most scenes. Maybe their engine doesn't support it?

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamcrms yeah ive never seen dynamic resolution in their engine.

The main issue in this game is not using dynamic resolution, like many other games do.

@phelype211

2 жыл бұрын

me, on the other hand, prefer not to have dynamic resolution or FSR or something like, much better, native resolution, 100% rendering

@hicarodestrui

2 жыл бұрын

@@phelype211 Not fully agreed, dynamic resolution and FSR always create a pretty good result on higher resolutions and at the same time give better performance. Can't see any downside.

@MechetheGoat

2 жыл бұрын

I think its better. It gives consistency.

@samdixon3719

2 жыл бұрын

@@phelype211 at 1080p? U know how horrible this looks?

@50H3i1

2 жыл бұрын

Consoles need FSR and dynamic res combined. For future games which get more demanding

So has no one noticed that they actually put out a trailer advertising the the resolution mode on both xbox and PS was 4k? The game info on the xbox store even says 4k.

When will there be an updated video that covers the performance updates/patches that Dying Light 2 received back in August 2022?

1080p 60fps in performance mode is crazy. I was expecting at least 1440p. I need a new gpu ASAP

@SnakeGamerMG3

2 жыл бұрын

It's very poorly optimized! 1080p 30fps with 100% oldgen graphics.... wait for Forbiden West to show you how it's done...

@laworder6637

2 жыл бұрын

@@SnakeGamerMG3 Facts! Techland out here doing the bare minimum

@Gamer-cz8mo

2 жыл бұрын

this is a console comparison!!!

@ellisbluebird123

2 жыл бұрын

@@SnakeGamerMG3 I can’t wait for 1440p 60 either

@NeonT3tra25

2 жыл бұрын

@@SnakeGamerMG3 today devs don't care about optimization they only care about money even if their game is unfinished

Wow 1080p at 60fps? Techland really dropped the ball on this one

@mrbobajango7482

2 жыл бұрын

Had a feeling from the leaked ps5 gameplay that it was 1080p at 60fps. Played it safe covering up the poor optimisation most likely

@hhhfdsfs

2 жыл бұрын

I knew thisbwas gonna be the case.

@HottestBrownMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrbobajango7482 I agree , Games like Ratchet & Clank and Miles Morales are much more visually intensive and even with ray tracing enabled the resolution never averages out on 1080p. Hell even Miles Morales on Performance RT had a higher resolution than this. Though I can't really complain much , I still have those 3D TVs from 2010.

@raulsoftair3572

2 жыл бұрын

@@HottestBrownMan not only higher res, also at 60fps, but i think they have done it cuz of the lack of dynamic res

@mrbobajango7482

2 жыл бұрын

@@HottestBrownMan exactly! That's why it's a bit of a shame they settled on this considering many other games have been incredible while utilising the next gen power. I guess for people with the older tvs like you mentioned won't notice but unfortunately on higher res screens you really notice the drop. I guess I've been spoiled ha!

Why is there no mention of HDR or lack of? I just found out that there isn’t HDR support for this game.

Great video, Tom!

1080p to get 60 fps. Damn that's some amazing optimization guys. At least add a 40/vrr mode if youre not gonna optimize

@johnbrandstotter4512

2 жыл бұрын

Biiiiiig dissapointment.

@camxi2416

2 жыл бұрын

crazy how ratchet and clank has 60FPS, Ray Tracing and (i think) 1440p and it looks miles better than this game idk game design tho lol

@artwork1285

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah.these can push high Res. farcry can do 1800p 60 FPS.they didn't have the time maybe.

@williamcrms

2 жыл бұрын

I can't believe Techland isn't using dynamic resolution scaling, which has become such a modern staple for games. It looks like there is a lot of performance headroom in some scenes to push resolution higher than 1080p.

@raresmacovei8382

2 жыл бұрын

@@camxi2416 1080p60 with RT or 4K30 and 4K40 with RT*

Was really hoping for something more resolution-wise out of the 60fps mode.

@chrish813

2 жыл бұрын

Sameee :/. 1440p would have been amazing

@user-wr5we2xg6h

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrish813 the consoles are just too weak for 1440/60 tho

@BroHDarkCaBo

2 жыл бұрын

@MrFreak9.1.1 I wouldn't call them lazy, the game got delayed for like 2 years... So they must have had some development problems... Easy talking from the sideline✌🏽

@Goodbutevilgenius

2 жыл бұрын

@@BroHDarkCaBo Delaying something for a long time sounds like a telltale sign of laziness.

@user-wr5we2xg6h

2 жыл бұрын

@MrFreak9.1.1 they are tho, with ps5 at 3060 level of performance wothout rt 1080/60 is expected

just gotta say, you guys are doing god's work. I really love your videos of games that I'm interested in

Just 1080p is a bit disapointing, but there's no going back to 30fps for me.

I hope optimizing the game later on will bring better quality on all modes.

@belgregor

2 жыл бұрын

Im still waiting for promised dying light 60fps on ps5 lol

@ENT931

2 жыл бұрын

@@belgregor oh damn PS5 didn’t get the patch? I’m on Series X and thought all consoles got the 60fps patch?

@larcaidz8372

2 жыл бұрын

@@ENT931 I think series x just got it because they have the fps boost feature built into the console

@matjakobs8612

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂Wake up

@mrinde7

2 жыл бұрын

@@larcaidz8372 xbox has been extremely user friendly whilst playstation had gotten greedy with us having to pay for free updates essentially. Playstation did the same thing back in ps2 era, they were ya the top and then got greedy with the ps3. Then they pulled themselves together and won the ps3/360 era and kept that momentum going with ps4 but now we're back to the greedy practices which I hate when I've been with them since ps1 and seen these changes.

If a Series S runs at 1080P/30, what do the base PS4 and Xbox One run at? 720P/15?

Can we please have the best settings for pc ASAP. You guys are amazing, love your content so much.

The low resolution in the other two modes is so disappointing

@colinkennedy7115

2 жыл бұрын

Shut up

@jawadfarooqui4279

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinkennedy7115 imo the game doesnt look good enough to run at just 1080p

@roblima3397

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@cropredator1027

2 жыл бұрын

I will rather play this in 20 fps than crapy 1080p in 2022 wtf is this shit

@jisjis87

2 жыл бұрын

Even the PC requirements are pretty heavy. RTX 3080 for full hd ray tracing on 60fps

Gotta say, 1080P on the new consoles is a total bummer.

I think both next generation machines should be able to hit 60 fps at 1440p. That would be the sweet spot. And I think both should be able to handle that. I have a ps5 and will be playing it in performance mode. Definitely dnt think these two machines should be hitting 1080p. But I'm not dev.

1080 P with no dynamic scaling or AI upscaling is IMO just unacceptable for this gen. It's pretty much expected that EVERYONE who has a Series X or PS5 is going to be playing on a big 40-70 inch 4k display as they have become much more affordable, and 1080 p blown up on a big 4k screen just simply looks like a blurry mess. All games this gen should be shooting for 1440 P 60 FPS, employing whatever resolution tricks and dynamic scaling they possibly can to balance visuals with performance. Dropping it all the way to 1080 P is just giving up IMO

@bigboulder

2 жыл бұрын

And thats where the lack of supersampling tech in games for the current gen consoles at the moment starts to show. they should implement fsr afterwards.. the consoles support it and its better than havin nothing at all. But i think it also shows that raytracing without (heavy) upscaling in some form is way too much for this gen of consoles.

@b1thearchitect401

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigboulder 100% That's been obvious from the jump. Ray Tracing is too much for anything in existence outside of a 3090 machine without heavy upscaling like DLSS - Consoles desperately need games to implement FSR to keep up

@Fabian-gv1tz

2 жыл бұрын

So true, 4K 60 should be standard for Nextgen. Who wants to play 1080p on a 65 inch 4K display?

@RoHaN-du7yx

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fabian-gv1tz 4k 60 on consoles 😂😂😂 lol keep dreaming

@Fabian-gv1tz

2 жыл бұрын

@@RoHaN-du7yx ??? There are games with 4k 60fps or not?

Game looks amazing on PS5 and SX, a bit disappointed that the performance mode is only 1080p but there’s no way I’m drop kicking zombies off buildings at 30 FPS.

@kekatte

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone who uses an Xbox series S is stuck with 30fps sadly.

@Tectosaurus

2 жыл бұрын

@@kekatte yeah this sucks but it was expected. At least the frame rate is stable

@mandrews6282

2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to see DF talk about haptics in these vids as well. As someone on both consoles this would be a deciding factor if they run about the same. But yah, playing DL1 at 60 fps is night and day on Series X with fps boost. Although seeing the RT mode I may have to check that out as well. As long as it’s not too janky sometimes 30 fps is totally manageable.

@Tectosaurus

2 жыл бұрын

@@mandrews6282 PS5 users are still waiting for the DL1 performance patch… they confirmed it months ago but it’s still not out. I personally can’t handle 30 FPS for action games, the blurriness gives me headaches.

@mandrews6282

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tectosaurus yah I hear you. I had to buy it again on XBox when it was announced as FPS Boosted. I’d rather them make DL2 as stable as possible, which it sounds like it is, than put out next gen patches for DL1 on XBox and PS5. 60 over 30 in that game is night and day though so while I will check out the RT mode, I’m almost definitely playing in 60.

These settings, at least to me, seem largely disappointing. Motion blur was completely cut out of resolution mode, too, which wasn't even mentioned. Unfortunate.

@Spokker

2 жыл бұрын

No motion blur, no buy.

@milkycannon444

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spokker imagine wanting motion blur

@rinner2801

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spokker I mean it's cool you like motion blur but personally I can't imagine ever having it turned on. I find it to be absolutely disgusting. EDIT: To be fair, I think it works ok in some arcade racers, but that's about the only time I can imagine using it.

@Miadaskate

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I don’t ever notice motion blur. 🤷‍♂️

@utsavpradhan2754

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spokker why isn't motion blur supposed be a bad thing? I hated motion blur in uncharted 4.

Yeah I think I'll bounce right off this one if the only options are either a blurry mess or a stuttering mess. Were they really not able to tweak the settings in a way to make 1440p/60 an option at least? Is this some kind of jaw dropping super next gen leap in terms of visual fidelity? Because it doesn't look like it.

@humane143imperfection6

2 жыл бұрын

Wait for that fallout76 DEEP discount.

@humane143imperfection6

2 жыл бұрын

Wait for that fallout76 DEEP discount.

@WolverineBatman

2 жыл бұрын

It looks awful compared to Miles Morales, which is open world and has RT but also 60 fps and 1440p. Just goes to show the power of optimization.

@HonkeyKong54

2 жыл бұрын

@@WolverineBatman stupid as f comparison

@Simplystimulating

2 жыл бұрын

@@HonkeyKong54 how is it a stupid compression Spider-Man is bigger than this game. Horizon first dawn is 4k/60 fps… god of war too. I think horizon forbidden west might be 4k/60 fps too

0:03 I like how the rock just disappears into the street

Great coverage as always, DF!

Wow...maybe Techland should've spent 500 hours properly optimizing this game and give us at least 1440p 60 fps

@LASAGNA_LARRY

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@mandrews6282

2 жыл бұрын

1080p is not that far off from 1440p. I’ll take that with a stable framerate over 1440p and dips into the 50’s all the time. I mean this is what we got with Guardians of The Galaxy as well and that game is stunning. If the texture detail and world detail is the same, and obviously improved over, what was in DL1, I suspect this is a demanding game. I can only imagine what had to be scaled back for last gen consoles.

@sprintingsnail9492

2 жыл бұрын

@@mandrews6282for me, the difference between 1080p and 1440p is quite noticeable. 1440p is really clean, sharp and colors pop more. 1080p looks a bit dated in comparison.

@samdixon3719

2 жыл бұрын

@@mandrews6282 it is super noticable idl what ur talking about

@CJW0056

2 жыл бұрын

@@sprintingsnail9492 I agree, mathematically it doesn't seem like an extra vertical 360p would be that noticeable but the difference is huge when you actually see it.

Darn. Usually I'm totally fine with dropping down to 30fps with RT at above 1440p. But 30fps at 1080p with RT shadow/AO (the RT/AO looks really nice btw) Too much of a trade off to use.

I hope you check out the VRR update for SX once the patch is out. Maybe the resolution mode get's an unlocked framerate with it..

The search animation shows how underdeveloped this game still is. All the rumors on the polish game dev market seem to be true: it would need another 6 - 9 months of crunch.

Damn... I was expecting native 4K30 on Res mode, 1440p60 on performance mode and dynamic 1440p30 in quality. Having to go down to 1080p just to run at 60fps seems way to much... This makes me worry for the PC version.

@-BarathKumarS

2 жыл бұрын

PC is a unoptimized mess,need an RTX 2070 to get 1080P 60FPS at high settings without RT.

@silverwerewolf975

2 жыл бұрын

On pc will be fucked up ... If consoles have this optimization on pc will be ten times worse

@Shiba9870

2 жыл бұрын

It would still be Dynamic 1440p btw

@smokeemifyagotem8851

2 жыл бұрын

Pc master race ftw eh? Lmao

@gdoumit

2 жыл бұрын

@@smokeemifyagotem8851 It's not the PC's fault, it's the developer's.

1080p 60fps. Seriously? And 4K/30? What are these developers doing? These are next gen consoles. This is not acceptable. It should be 4K/60 standard with 1080p 120. And RT 1440p 60 for Xbox series x and ps5. Smfh

I hope you guys would do more HDR analysis.

I bet if this game was optimized properly it could be played at 1800p 60 FPS with ray traced shadows on the next gen consoles. Games have already done way more, and it’s kind of pathetic to get 1080p 60 fps. The PS4 pro could probably run this at 1080p 60 FPS…..

Hope you guys take a look at the last-gen versions. A lot of people are still playing on One S/X and PS4/Pro. Would be interesting to see just how scaled back those versions are compared to the new gen versions.

@Jojo-nq3bp

2 жыл бұрын

on those versions you will get the regular:1080, 30fps

@Monafide3305

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jojo-nq3bp Surely the settings will differ somewhat from Series S, though?

@maineman5757

2 жыл бұрын

@@Monafide3305 Series S is marketed to target 1080p and sometimes 1440p on less demanding games.

@onlineghost9813

2 жыл бұрын

Last gen version should not exist on 2022 moving forward... There is a reason why we needed a generational change.

@grtcara8386

2 жыл бұрын

Stop holding back next gen!

I do appreciate a good comparison! :)

Thanks for again a good video! One question, I like performance mode in the games when playing on my ps5. I have a 4k Sony TV. Do you know if some off those TV's make 1080p look better with some software? For me it looks like the visuals on my 4k screen with playing 1080p look much better then on a standard 1080p screen.

@annabeldomenech4806

2 жыл бұрын

You would need a 1080p plasma tv it would look good then

"preoder cancelled" is usually a meme.. but thats literally what i just did. just 1080p is not acceptable for a game that looks like its from 2015

Older consoles like PS4 and Xbox one are holding these games back massively. Games that are made solely for next gen like demon souls , ratchet and clank , returnal . Run amazingly well

@akkibajaj705

2 жыл бұрын

Next year it will be next gen only this game got delayed a few times as well before releasing btw

@bryankowalczyk3982

2 жыл бұрын

Ya Sony be the only one dropping next gen, feel sorry for the other console owners ☹️

@Coxy_Wrecked

2 жыл бұрын

This is the slowest transition from one gen to the next by far. Barring 1 or 2 games there's nothing available that isn't a last gen game masquerading as next gen. All we've really seen is faster loading times and even then these SSD's for the most part and aren't being fulling utilised.

@seraphimvalkyrin4543

2 жыл бұрын

Then why doesn't this apply to PCs? That would be like saying a GTX 1080 is holding back PCs that have a RTX 3090.

@adrianwiles1

2 жыл бұрын

@@bryankowalczyk3982 don't feel too bad for them because I own both and think the series X is the best out of the consoles.

Dying light was a great game but it's the kind of game that it's better to wait for a definitive edition than buying first day.

No 60 fps on the Series S? Seriously? I'm gonna go ahead and cancel my pre order for this. That is absolutely ridiculous

@yokiryuchan7655

2 жыл бұрын

lol yeah you might as well just play the game on last gen like what's the point

@lyfe8349

2 жыл бұрын

@@yokiryuchan7655 fps isn't everything, the game is low res and blurry on base last gen consoles.

@yokiryuchan7655

2 жыл бұрын

@@lyfe8349 damage control lol

That’s pretty disappointing I always choose 60 fps but I expected something more than 1080p especially on current gen consoles. I think I will wait maybe Techland drops some patches to improve the performance mode.

@rmo9808

2 жыл бұрын

They've supported dying light this long. I wouldn't be surprised if they optimized this after launch.

@jamesearly7388

2 жыл бұрын

@@rmo9808 hope they can optimise it and up performance mode to 1440p 60fps, I think I will just buy it for pc first as I have a decent pc to run it well, it’s just such a shame it’s 1080p 60 feel like it’s not going to be the best on a 4K screen

@Safetytrousers

2 жыл бұрын

I think they've cranked the graphics to as good as you'll get at this time, so I wouldn't expect any drastic performance improvements.

@rmo9808

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesearly7388 They probably decided on getting something stable rather than push for more. I can forgive that considering how terrible Cyberpunk still is. We should be getting much better games at this point in the development cycle but the last couple years have been a mess.

@rmo9808

2 жыл бұрын

@@Safetytrousers It's still a cross generation game. They obviously had to keep it playable for last gen. There's room there to work. The question is will they?

Love that options have become the norm with this generation so I love that, but 1080p in the performance mode is kinda meh if I'm honest considering what we have seen these machines do so far. At least it's a rock solid and properly frame paced 60.

@bevanmcnicholl2525

2 жыл бұрын

But if 1080p 60fps is what we get thats okay ... but I bet there'll be a patch later on. Look at Spiderman ps5

@firestorm517

2 жыл бұрын

@@bevanmcnicholl2525 I definitely love that we've finally left the old 30fps standard on consoles behind, and FINALLY FINALLY hit 60fps standard, with multiple options. It's great. Maybe the game will get updates later, no idea. The game seems very demanding even on very high end PC's so IDK. The game looks good no doubt, but it seems unreasonably demanding. 1080p was just a bit of a shame. I'll take it though for 60fps every day of the week.

I would be interested in knowing if the 30fps modes have really well-done motion blur, which can make all the difference in the world. For instance, deathloop had a fantastic 30fps mode because the motion blur was done so well. They never seem to mention this in digital Foundry analysis videos

The biggest bummer for me is the lack of HDR on PS5 . How on earth is that possible in 2022???

@69memnon69

2 жыл бұрын

series x as well

This is really dissapointing. As a crossgen title I would expect PS4 atleast 900-1080p/ Xbox One 720-900p at 30 fps, which means the Xbox Series S with ease could reach ATLEAST 900p 60fps. And the PS5 / XSS 1440p+ 60fps if properly optimized.. but looks like that's not the case.

5:00 - grass looks worse for me with Ray Tracing. Anyone else agree?

I feel like we still have a console generation (or two?) to go before I'm going to find exactly what I think we're all looking for at this point - 4k, ray tracing, 60 fps as standard. Is it really too much to ask? At that point I'd be happy with that forever tbh.

Can't wait for the PC coverage. Hopefully we'll see expanded RT options, and I believe it implements DLSS as well... might end up being another great showcase for what RT can do.

@wasd-moves-me

2 жыл бұрын

pc seems to be decent even modest hardware doing 1080p 60

I can't deny that I find 1080p in performance rather disappointing. With my viewing distance and my 65 inch TV I'm definitely gonna notice. It's a let down after having had several games on current gen at dynamic 4K/60.

@thechump10

2 жыл бұрын

Wish it was atleast 1440p. Gonna look blurry on my 65 4k screen too

@Howlerss

2 жыл бұрын

@@thechump10 I suggest you get an eye test then as 1080p definitely shouldn't look blurry on a 4k tv.

@LASAGNA_LARRY

2 жыл бұрын

@@Howlerss 1080p naturally looks worse on a 4K TV, as the image literally stretches 1 pixel across 4 pixels to fit the 4K screen.

@sukibisbotka

2 жыл бұрын

pretty sure youre the one that needs a eye test if u think 1080p looks sharp on a 4k tv lmfao

@Howlerss

2 жыл бұрын

@@LASAGNA_LARRY it really doesn't. Only explanation for this is your tv doesn't upscale well.

I don’t think 1080p at 60 was the move. Especially when in this day and age we have dynamic resolution. Honestly dynamic 1440p would have been better

I was honestly hoping for a recomendation !

Thanks guys!

And it's time for 1080p 30fps gaming on nextgen machines👏👏👏

1080p on Next -Gen 😟 Even with RT enabled shadows & AO you'd think they could push that higher especially seeing how they're capping it at 30. Gotta say i'm a little disappointed

@Th3Fly1ngCow

2 жыл бұрын

"next gen'"

@gtibro6799

2 жыл бұрын

Current Gen!!! PlayStation 5 and series x are current Gen. Last Gen is playstation 4 and Xbox one.

@raulsoftair3572

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, it was ok if we had got 1080p at 60 plus RT and dynamic 4k at 60fps without rt considering that Metro EE is pretty much heavy as DL2 but it runs at dynamic 4k at 60fps with full RTGI and RT Shadows, that's unbelievable, but in some small and very rare scenarios ps5 drops the res to 1080p too keep the 60fps stable, and probably they saw that in some scenes the game would drop a lot of frames so they capped the res at 1080p even if the game could run at 1440p for the 95% of the time, that's cuz of the lack of dynamic res, same for the rt mode, i bet it could run at a MUCH higher res. Or the game is just bad optimized, for that we have to wait the pc review

@joker927

2 жыл бұрын

@@raulsoftair3572 dsogaming has some early PC benchmarks. Looking real bad.

@annabeldomenech4806

2 жыл бұрын

Smh

I was hoping to see some footage regarding VRR support as I believe this was supposed to support that on Xbox.

@Int3gr4t3

2 жыл бұрын

VRR support works on any game on both the Series S/X. It's a hardware feature.

@Levas36

2 жыл бұрын

@@Int3gr4t3 yeah, but it would've been nice to see if there was any differences noted when compared to ps5 and to see how the possible 120Hz with vrr actually performs as devs claim it can support it.

why are we still getting 30 fps modes... No one wants that. It's bad. No one in their right mind is going to pick to play games at 30 when a 60 fps option is available so lets just prioritise making 60 fps the bare minimum and the best it can be please. It's been decades now we are beyond that crap. Up the standards ffs. You can even see how horrid it is in videos now...

As a series S owner that's so disappointing. Raytracing was always questionable for it but no 60fps mode and only 1080p in its default mode? That just sounds like they're voluntarily ignoring any effort for the series S version and just giving us a slightly more stable version of the Xbox one version. I'm having this same worry for cyberpunks next gen update soon too. Also thank you for covering the series S version of games regularly digital foundry, you guys are pretty much the only channel that does and believe me it's appreciated.

@219SilverChoc

2 жыл бұрын

I thought they would implement the dynamic resolution and TAAU from the switch version of Dying Light into this game to help push for 60fps, I'm even more worried to see last gen as this looks like a game that clearly wasn't for that hardware.

@XboxPlayerPL

2 жыл бұрын

I feel cheated. They presented only Xbox Series X gameplay without Xbox Series S. I assumed that series S will have 60 FPS mode.

@albertojimenez6012

2 жыл бұрын

Im too pretty disappointed the console is perfectly capable of doing 1080p 60fps... I was waiting this game since 2019 for this. I have no money for a pc or a Series X. Thought that techland would care but it seems we cant trust no one...

@omensoffate

2 жыл бұрын

@@XboxPlayerPL a series s is small

@omensoffate

2 жыл бұрын

@@albertojimenez6012 you thought a last gen would do 60?

I don’t understand why they didn’t apply dynamic scaling and 1440p with 60fps, sort of what Metro Exodus did WITH ray tracing

I can’t wait.. been waiting a long time for this. I wish Tom had dropped a little tiny hint though whether the game came out well as far as “is it fun to play”

Why is there no mention of the missing HDR support?

Definitely looks like it can use some further optimization. 1080p at 60fps is the only mode mode worth playing. FPS over resolution and RT, no brainer.

@a.g.m8790

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re a console gamer then you must have come by that opinion *very* recently seeing how you’ve been playing games at 30fps and below for years now 😆

@nocap20

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.g.m8790 and the point is...?

@Sims64340

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine playing at the low end 1080p resolution on a next gen console :)

@nocap20

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sims64340 as much as we hate ubisoft, their games are well optimized, next gen consoles run their games beyond 1440p flawlessly

@brucecarter6205

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sims64340 1080p on PS5/Series X is acceptable for me if the game is pushing 120fps, but at 60fps it should be 1440p at minimum. The Series S performance here is even more disappointing to me. Appears to have been rushed and therefore not well optimized. Hopefully it gets patched.

Wow. I’ve got to say, I am disappointed with the performance/quality mode options.

DF, you should really consider doing the Last Gen versions. They're absolutely hilarious at how horrible they look, especially regular Xbone and PS4. Also it takes several seconds to just get into menu in game.

@brandthendo5623

2 жыл бұрын

People Should have at least upgraded to the ps4 pro or Xbox one x by now. Those consoles are almost a decade old and were running outdated technology even when they released.

@REDDEADANDGTACLUB

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandthendo5623 That doesn't exactly matter. Those consoles were able to handle RDR2 which looks better and plays smoother than this game.

is there a fov slider? the first game was very narrow

Man 1080p is disappointing for next gen performance "hey guys you can either play with last gens resolution and a good framerate OR last gens framerate and a good resolution LOL enjoy!" now the dying light 1 60 FPS 4k patch for next gen systems not showing up makes more sense dont want to show up the sequel!

Disappointed that Series S can't push 60 fps in this title. Hopefully they can patch something in with a later performance update but hopefully this isn't a new trend with other upcoming AAA titles.

@glitchgod1128

2 жыл бұрын

Same here I’m very nervous for the future of my series s

@blacklung7474

2 жыл бұрын

@UCHVSfOA6-1_4YgQLCaTmmSA not only the s.

@MrPlayahata123

2 жыл бұрын

Buying a series s tsk tsk tsk foolish

@NibbleMaster

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPlayahata123 hey don't hate, it was affordable and findable, 2 things critical to any conscious gamer nowadays

@WeinerTouchy

2 жыл бұрын

@@NibbleMaster For real, Series S is an amazing console, especially for people that are hesitent to get into the next generation of consoles because "my One X is still supported". The difference between last gen and Series S is insane already, and if more people would stop dogging on a THREE HUNDRED DOLLAR 1440p machine, we'd see less and less need to support last gen consoles.

Game looks good but I thought performance mode would be 1440p or close to it. Guardians of The Galaxy made a similar concession to performance options. 1440p is honestly close enough to me on my 4K TV but 1080p is when I more often notice the lack of detail. Series X should have had a 1440p uncapped frame rate mode instead (of 1944p) that lets users use VRR to smooth it out.

@Sivec5054

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, give me a timestamp please for unlocked framerate part

@Mitocondriak

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently only metro exodus have been the only team to pull off all settings, 4k,60fps RT, developers can do it, they just don't want to take the extra time to do it

@alphacompton

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mitocondriak I'm not asking for that level, without Ray tracing 1440p at 60fps for a modern game should be doable. A lot of other commenters are disappointed that 60fps is locked to 1080p.

@Mitocondriak

2 жыл бұрын

@Alphacompton i agree, but i am simply saying that it was hyped that these features that are supposedly capable on next gen hardware isn't being seen on next gen games, because it isn't enforced or a standard, it basically a flex at this point, developers will only do it to show off they're "good developers" while others are simply relying on overpowed hardware to do the work they don't want to, when they can probably have max settings across the board, as orther developers have shown it to be possible, i believe these guys simply didn't have the time and resources to pull it off, many other developers i believe are simply waiting for UE5 so it makes it easier and could possible deliver better settings that what most developers are providing these days.

@hydzior

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mitocondriak it was not 4k ;].

There is no reason Series S can't do 1080p60, and for that matter PS5 and Series X should be doing 4K60. What's happening here is the developers let some artists bicker and complain about "not enough sparkles" or some such BS so they pumped up effects to the point where resolution and framerates are driven into the ground. On a PC equivalent to PS5 and Series X you will easily hit 4K60 on medium settings, the console developers just let their personal bias dictate that consoles are forced to play with a blurry image.

I’m praying that Techland can patch the game in the near future and make performance mode 1440p at a silky smooth 60fps locked. 1080p is a joke.

@Dark-qx8rk

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get your hopes up. The first game had crap optimization on pc and was never improved with patches. This game looks like the same engine.

@fenix_tx_1342

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dark-qx8rk Was it not fixed either with the free release of the "enhanced edition"? We bought that with a friend on a steam sale, played the entire game on coop, and I had no issues whatsoever at 1080p/60fps, can't remember if I had a 1060 or 1660ti at the time, but I had perfect 60fps with really low gpu usage. My friend didn't have any issues either and he has an rx 570 + ryzen 3 1200

@sebastiand2506

2 жыл бұрын

They can't, the engine cant manage to do dynamic resolution, so forget about 1440 60 fps

@Dark-qx8rk

2 жыл бұрын

@@fenix_tx_1342 The game was released in 2015 when the common gpu's were GTX 970/R9 390 or older and not sure about the cpu's and I know it was not easy to run 1080/60fps. Obviously 1660Ti/RX 570 were newer gpu's that would run the game better.

@fenix_tx_1342

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dark-qx8rk The 970 trades blows with the 570 in most games though, specially older ones, the difference is like 20% at most, not double the performance or anything crazy.

In all honesty I don’t think 1080p is acceptable for a next gen game considering the console can do 4K 60fps , at the bare minimum it should do 60fps 1440p , not even then resolution mode is 4K

@onlineghost9813

2 жыл бұрын

i bet you have a 1080p TV/ monitor lol.

@GPF_

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarrenExplorz I have both ps5 and series x and I love both but can’t help but be extremely disappointed when devs don’t make there’s games 4k 60fps when the consoles are more than capable , cod, fifa , god of war all look stunning but then hames like guardians of the galaxy and now dying light dropping to 1080p in 60fps not even 1440p is utterly ridiculous

@psvitaoled197

2 жыл бұрын

Dude this engine fucking blows this game isn’t even good looking. I have. 4K hdr 144h monitor and a ps5 I’ll be passing on this game

@othmaneaouioued8768

2 жыл бұрын

it was expected it would perform like this, it needs a 3080 to play the game at 1080p60 with ray tracing

@ryuaga

2 жыл бұрын

The consoles can't really do 4k 60 all that often.. it's usually check boarded or being upscaled via some other method. Which is not true 4k... simple fact is, this game is too heavy for the consoles.

Im here to see the differences and you start to explain me the whole game

Would love to see TechLand implement FSR into this title, given the framework is already there on PC and the feature is available to consoles (at least on Xbox where it’s in the SDK).

@W_Strone_Swiatla

2 жыл бұрын

FSR is nowhere near DLSS sadly. It is just dynamic resolution scaller. But still probably better than fixed res.

For a game wish last-gen ish visuals it’s strange how low the resolution targets are, like 1080p just to play it in 60fps? That kinda sucks…

@Lavoss05

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on that i was looking at the video here and wasn't very impressed with the visuals at all.

Incredibly disappointed that there's no option for 60fps on series s. I would gladly sacrifice graphical quality for more frames. This game looks so good that I feel like a lot could be sacrificed in the pursuit of a higher frame rate and the game would still look acceptable

@thebiggestgarlic1194

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I wouldn't mind 900p at 60fps.

@XboxPlayerPL

2 жыл бұрын

I feel cheated. They presented only Xbox Series X gameplay without Xbox Series S. I assumed that series S will have 60 FPS mode.

@Macias

2 жыл бұрын

"Human eye cant see more than 24fps"

@219SilverChoc

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the implementation of dynamic resolution on the switch version of Dying Light was to prepare for those features in this game, but alas, we could defiantly see more from these consoles if they implemented that.

@arcticwolf1599

2 жыл бұрын

@@XboxPlayerPL thats because the series x is the target for the game the series is is nothing more than a game pass machine expecting a 2022 AAA game to run at 60 fps without major sacrifices is daft! its the equivelent to a low end pc with an 5500xt and 2700x

Please review the re4 hd project. It's an amazing work from a fan.

I can't believe that there is no 60fps mode on Series S. I mean come now...

Lol I know damn sure this game can run better than this. This game can't even run at full 4k on the series x but red dead redemption 2 which is open world and looks way more graphically impressive can run at 4k on a weaker xbox one x

We need more videos by Thomas. You are the best in the DF crew. Truly.

@gdoumit

2 жыл бұрын

I'm good with everyone other than their new guy. He just always sounds so scripted and I can't enjoy the content he's bringing because of it. It's like listening to a machine they programmed to read a script.

@maaax1173

2 жыл бұрын

@@gdoumit Haven't heard of him yet. Should probably give him some time

@annabeldomenech4806

2 жыл бұрын

@@gdoumit he sounds sad every video lol

I have confidence Techland will optimise the 60fps mode upgrade resolution to 1440p in the future.

Getting the PS5 version myself, but I'm interested to see last gen versions and how they've been optimised.

I didn't expect series x or ps5 to get a 1080p resolution, like really techland?! I have a series s and a 2k monitor and it's only 30 fps at 1080p? I'm really disappointed.

Wish they would have pushed for 60 fps 1440p maybe reduced draw in distance or whatever to get it there , find that’s sweet spot on my 4K tv .

What do you advise me- Resolution or preform??

This comparison is excellent. Just curious, why no mention of bugs as reviewers report many and that seems to be related to performance?

@liltruck2021

2 жыл бұрын

Games not out yet. Ppl are so quick to jump the gun

I was super excited for this game.. but the fact that it is 1080p@60fps in performance mode has pretty much crushed a majority of my excitement.. 1080p is to me just unacceptable on a Series X. Performance mode should me at an Absolute MINIMUM 1440P@60Fps on Series X and PS5. This was an absolute blow to the face and has me reconsidering if i'm even going to buy the game at all..

@zainmalik9666

2 жыл бұрын

I would’ve been disappointed even at 1440p60 I thought dynamic 4k60 would be the norm for this generation. Guess only first party games can do that

@TheMrNukeman

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed went from hyped to probably skipping. This is almost as lazy as the new Pokemon game from a technical standpoint.

@billyrosewarne2178

2 жыл бұрын

legit sat here kinda wana cry ;/ whyyy these next gen consoless are ment to be so powerful i think ps5/xbox will be my last consoles im fully moving to pc ;/

@IlSevenlI

2 жыл бұрын

@@billyrosewarne2178 it's not the console's fault tho. The Series X and PS5 could easily run this game at 1440p@60fps if not full 4K.. it's more so the fact that they are being held back by the old consoles and poor optimization by the developers of the game.. The game has to run well on all consoles including the first editions of Xbox One and PS4. And optimizing for all consoles at the same time takes Alot for work. Take Metro Exodus for example, that game runs at a Dynamic 4K@60FPS WITH Ray-Tracing Enabled. But again the Next Gen Version of that game was developed after the fact, meaning the developers could focus on just the next gen consoles and not having to worry about last gen.

@CZProductions

2 жыл бұрын

What do you expect from a console? You guys are never going to get the performance that you want and it's only going to get worse and worse as games get more demanding. Should have just picked up a PC

Games like this and Guardians really should include PC like settings on consoles so that future generations can take full advantage of the build in tech.

@holodoctor1

2 жыл бұрын

That would be pretty frustrating- one of the big benefits of consoles is not having to tweak a bunch of settings to get a solid frame rate like on PC. I get your point though- maybe they could include a checkbox that said “adjusting these features will not run smoothly on current consoles”, then allow you to adjust stuff.

@josiahkhani3667

2 жыл бұрын

An option to uncap framerates would be great for future devices.

@goshtic9565

2 жыл бұрын

@@holodoctor1 Right? So that way they can resell you those tweak settings in a remaster version later that offers higher resolution and texture settings that you could've just manually enable them yourself like on the PC.

Looking like we're coming up against the limitations of these new systems a little early, no? I'm sensing the beginning of the end of high res 60fps games on the consoles.

@redferne4576

2 жыл бұрын

Bad optimization.

Will be really interesting to what cuts are made to bring this to last gen and if mid gen refresh will even go with a performance mode. Seems like it might be night and day like with Mirrors Edge Catalyst or Deus Ex Mankind Divided on console vs PC.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe

2 жыл бұрын

All last gen will be at 30fps. Techland aren't using dynamic res scaling so honestly I bet one X and ps4 Pro will look similar to series S version

I always find it interesting when I see comparisons of RT vs non-RT and there are shadows that _go away_ when RT is on. A reminder of how much we're approximating with the older shadow techniques.

@thecatdaddy1981

2 жыл бұрын

The same thing happens in Shadow of the Tomb Raider

@zybch

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecatdaddy1981 Most games that have an RT shadows option really. I wonder what the level artists think of it all. RT means they don't have the same control over lighting, but its more accurate. But do we want total accuracy in games? A well crafted and designed title its still going to look stunning and deliver a better framarate, and once you're playing the accuracy of shadows and reflections just isn't going to be noticeable.

@postjm9

2 жыл бұрын

@@zybch People who light movie sets or photo shoots are still artists, but it is a different skill set.

@knochey2296

2 жыл бұрын

@@zybch That's not really true. Even with RT you can place objects in the BVH structure only to affect shadows, reflections or whatever you want

@zybch

2 жыл бұрын

@@knochey2296 What I'm getting at is the realism achieved with RT, vs manually placing every individual light, shadow maps etc etc. Yes, non-GI objects (light emitters etc) can be placed while using RT, but it sort of defeats some of the reason for RT in the first place, especially when for the most part, the difference isn't going to be noticed except for the significant performance penalty RT results in. I'd have personally preferred the silicon sacrificed for RT to be used for other things. Its cool, but still nowhere near to the speed needed for non-accumulation RT effects at good framerates and high resolutions, yet.

was expecting more for the new consoles, can't even do 4k 60 fps or 1080 60 fps with RT, huge let down

@crestofhonor2349

2 жыл бұрын

4k 60 is pretty unrealistic considering how few games even attempt to hit that

How do you use the modes tho I’ve just upgraded and find them in settings im sure they should be in settings

The skyscraper section of the game feels like it tanks the frame rate to sub-20 especially if you use the vents to shoot upward on the glider. With lots of tearing in some moments. (SeriesX quality mode)

1080p 60fps on both series x and ps5 I knew I should of bought the game for pc lol