No video
DW Drum Shell Innovations Webinar with John Good & Thomas Lang
We here at DW are always searching for new and creative ways to offer drummers more sound possibilities from their drums. We know our ever-expanding and customizable menu can get a bit confusing, so John Good brought Thomas Lang into the studio to help explain the differences and technology behind our vast array of drum shell innovations. They compare 3 Collector's Seriers kits, a SSC Maple, Maple/Mahogany, and Cherry.
For all things DW, visit: www.dwdrums.com
To stay extra-connected with all our latest happenings, "Like" our Facebook Fan Page
/ dwdrums
and follow our Tweets too!
/ dwdrums
Пікірлер: 532
We are happy to hear you enjoyed and thanks for watching! Full specifications below! 7x8 X shell 8x10 VLT 9x12 VLT 12x14 X Floor Tom 14x16 VLX Floor Tom 18x22 VLX Bass drum 5.5x14 VLT Snare
For anyone who plays guitar and drums will understand that John is the Paul Reed Smith of the drum world.
@nwordpassifyousub2303
5 жыл бұрын
Bridges Holwell couldn’t agree more
@jorgemunoz3550
5 жыл бұрын
Bridges Holwell so true
@Kush715799
3 жыл бұрын
@Talon Eric hmmmmm... Brand new account, no content, but I'm sure there's nothing "shady" going on here.
@afj617
2 жыл бұрын
I guess that makes Horst Link the Les Paul of drums…Both brilliant but VERY different sounding drums, I personally can’t stand the sound of DW toms but yet still believe they are some of the best made, Sonor is just different from all other drums in a fundamental way.
Thanks for asking! With Maple/Mahogany shells the core plies are Maple and the very inner and outer plies are Mahogany. Look below for the exact specs on this kit! 7x8 - 8 ply 8x10 - 9 ply 9x12 - 9 ply 12x14(legs) - 9 ply 14x16(legs) - 9 ply 18x22 Bass Drum - 10 ply 5.5x14 Snare - 12 Ply
Thomas does the best drum demonstrations I've ever heard. He knows how to let you hear what the whole kit can do.
@dwdrums
2 жыл бұрын
🥁
It's like the best Samuri meeting his blacksmith for the first time. Both are masters in what they do. But one can't do the other. But need each other, and have the utmost admiration for there fellow bond.
I love john's excitement for making drums. I'm not even a drummer but I love watching these videos! Thanks DW!
he is truly obsessed with drum making, and we love him to pieces for it. He'll never stop experimenting, no matter how confusing it gets.
I have a Collectors Series Custom Lacquer kit that I purchased in 2001 as my "holy Grail" kit. It cost an arm and a leg, but I sincerely don't regret the purchase. It's the best sounding and playing kit I've ever been behind. I've played a lot of really good kits over the past 35-ish years of playing, and I'm still glad I purchased a DW kit. Their drums truly are second to none IMHO. John and Thomas... thanks for demo of these unique kits!
@dwdrums
7 жыл бұрын
:-)
Thanks for sharing your story with us! We are very happy to have you a part of the DW family! John is very appreciate of you playing DW!!
We couldn't agree with you more. Such a pleasure to work for people (John and Don included) who are so genuinely passionate about what they do. They live and breath drums and although it seems inevitable, we're glad it shows through. No need to call you names, we love your enthusiasm :) Looks like you answered your other comment. Just to be clear, we absolutely offer many different wood options other than maple. All-Cherry, All-Birch, Classics (poplar/mahogany), Bamboo/Birch (Eco-X), & more
We are so happy to hear you are hearing the differences! This is the point! We will keep going on into the future! Thanks!
This is a pretty informative video - LOVE Thomas Lang's playing (10:15, 23:00, 29:00). Huge inspiration.
@dwdrums
10 жыл бұрын
He is a Fantastic Drummer.
We love you too and we're glad you asked! Before John Good made drums, he was a drum tech for some of the most famous drummers in the world. He became obsessed with what made some kits sound better than others. Bearing edges were a big culprit, and he would re-edge his drummers kits, but when he had those shells without hardware on them, he tapped them and realized that in many cases, a larger drum would have a higher fundamental pitch than the smaller ones in the kit...
Thank God for John Good and all of the DW crew, I own a 2008 Collector's Series Kit and still to this day when I walk up to my kit weather it's on stage or at the rehearsal space....I get excited because I know what I'm about to experience...and that is sheer drum ecstasy!!!
These guys have sold me DW drums. I just wish that I could afford them.
@amandamcmanus4857
9 жыл бұрын
✊😫😫😗🙍😎
@cuznred
9 жыл бұрын
mick griffiths check out the performance series kits, I got one and I am getting a 2nd one. Affordable kits and they are all DW. They sound fantastic
@ryanspeed5200
7 жыл бұрын
cuznred I agree with you..I own an acrylic and performance dw kit.love them both!!!
@caleb.parker
6 жыл бұрын
mick griffiths they are a great company, you can get stuff that's just as good for half the pirce!
@brrosskiee
6 жыл бұрын
me too
Those drums sound amazingly well tuned. Hats off to whoever did that!
the 1st kit was my fav, so deep and warm, the 8 inch tom sounded the best out of them all, just beautiful,, ps, john good is a class act :)
Beautiful shells and great playing Mr. Lang
Glad to hear that. We enjoy making these longer videos and we're thrilled to see that most people enjoy them all the way through. We'll keep it coming!
Hey. Glad I stumbled across this. I'm 50. I've owned virtually every drum kit my lifetime. Year and half ago I bought a DW jazz kit 18/12/14 w/ matching snare and I have not looked at or thought about another drum kit. Not once. The DW Jazz line is as close as you can get to the vintage Blue Note sound. The tuning range is broad and the drums just sing. Finally I have a true musical instrument.
@dwdrums
10 жыл бұрын
vinnyrac Thank you for being a part of the DW family! We are glad you love them.
Love that DW and John Good did this video with Thomas Lang...they could not have picked a better drummer to demonstrate these kits. I especially love this particular video because of the demo on the Cherry kit. I just got my custom order DW Collectors Cherry kit, only instead of 3 rack and 2 floor toms, I have 2 rack and 3 floor toms. They sound as fabulous as the ones here. Thanks, DW!
Awesome feedback thanks! Thanks for watching!
Wow! Match made in heaven. The best drummer and the best drum designer in the world combined to make the best drum demo on the greatest name in drums. Maple/Mahogany is the undisputed king of wood drum sound. A very well thought out demo on the current technology used today in DW drum making. A work of art and Thomas Lang only proves the end result. I love my Candy Yellow over Giant Quilt Sapele.
We love you, too! Thanks so much for choosing the Performance series! We do not currently offer a 10x13 tom but you can definitely check with your local dealer on the pricing for an add on 18x22 bass drum. Sorry for any inconvenience.
His freestyle is very technical and flows so well....
Nice ear bud choice! Thanks for your kind feedback!
John and Don are so passionate and excited about sharing there experience in making the worlds greatest drums. It is a pleasure to watch and learn from there videos. Thank you for taking the time to make these video clips.
John is such a down to earth man and I will never forget meeting him and sharing the same passion for fine wood and cutting edge drums and hardware
I have a set of Design series...and yes...I know they're not the Collector's...but they have the HVLT shells and I've been absolutely stunned by how awesome they sound. You do get a massive sound out of the drums...even the little 8" tom I've got...thanks guys!
Russ Hall! Thanks for liking the sound of these drums! We hope this comment gets to you!
@Volksmash
10 жыл бұрын
Indeed it did! Thomas just has a way of making good quality drums sing
Videos like this are why I love DW. No other company gives as much info on how and why they make their drums the way they do. DW makes it easy to understand the differences between shell orientations and the woods that are used. Plus DW's sound great and their hardware is top notch. That's why I'll be picking up my new collectors ssc kit today!
I'm from Brazil, and I'm absolutely in love with DW drums. Mr. John is a genius, Thomas Lang is a monster that I love too. My dream to the future is to own a blue DW kit. I have watched to the video of the tour in the factory, it's amazing. DW 's the greatest of the world.
This is so amazing that John understands the tone interval between an 8" & 10" to a 12" and beyond. I have always hated tuning those two smaller size toms in comparison to the others because you have to tune them down lower to get the tone right. The fact that he's willing to share with the world and amongst all DW's competitors says how confident he is and the vast knowledge he has when it comes to making drum shells. What a master of his art!
This is Outrageous...So informative! Thank you and greetings to John wood & Thomas Lang. I am soo in the right era with this guys!.. It sounds Amazing!
@philippepouliot9448
9 жыл бұрын
John Wood hahaha !
@drumvisio
9 жыл бұрын
Philippe Pouliot LOL:D Good Wood
We will be here when you are ready! Thanks!
These really are amazing sounding drums. As an audio engineer, I always know that when I'm working with a drummer who uses DW Collector's that my life will be that much easier. I also really hope that the next kind of wood that John implement's into DW's Collector's line is Bubinga! The knowledge about wood and drum shell's that John Good has would make for some amazing Bubinga Collector's!!
Our fans and customers are the amazing people! thanks so much though!
sorry for any confusion. Indeed, Drum Channel is a completely separate entity, & non-partial to any one drum co. Similarly, Guitar Center, the people who hosted the initial live webinar, are non-partial. That said, DC is owned and run by Don Lombardi, founder/president of DW. & the DC studio is across the street from DW. So it's a convenient place to shoot video, especially live streams (as this initially was). We're sure DC would be happy to host a similar webinar for any other drum co.
John Good is the Les Paul of drums. I switched to DW almost a year ago and I honestly wish I had made the change sooner. I used a set of 5000 DBP for almost 20 years before I had to replace them. Soon after getting the 9000 DBP I decided to get a set of DW drums. Then soon after that I upgraded all of my hardware with the 9000 series. I am so much happier with my drum sound and set up. Thank you, John!
Great conversation! The M/M's will have a smaller amount of sustain which in a lot of cases engineers appreciate in a recording situation. Although the SSC will have a shorter amount sustain because of the lower tones compared to our standard maple. Both kits are all round performers for sure! Now it's just up to you!
glad to have ya :) There's are some great drums out there, but we will never stop striving to make the best and most custom.
These are hopefully the last set i own . Im saving for them now. These are every drummers dream. . Ive never had the opportunity to own a real high end kit these are my dream. God bless dw.
Thanks! We can't wait to make you a kit!
John is such great teacher, too. I feel like I'm at the DW University lecture by Professor Good.
WOW every time I here him play I say that was his best clip yet and then I hear another it’s unreal and you can see johns love and enthusiasm about designing drums I personally own PDP not quite DW but someday
John's attitude and dedication is one of the main reasons I just ordered a DW drum set. I'm back playing after an extended break and I want good quality drums at a fair price. I'm thinking I made the right choice. Am very excited and hope my kit will be delivered within the week. Thanks John for all you do.
@dwdrums
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for the love.
Great stuff! I can't say I heard a huge difference between the first two kits but when John thumped that cherry shell the walls started shaking in my house! My Goodness! I really like these videos and I think you're way ahead of the competition in regards to sharing your manufacturing philosophies and processes! Keep up the great work.
John Good is the research! We are very happy your found this useful! There's never enough info about shell making with JG inventing new shell making all the time!
These are by far the most beautiful sounding drums my ears have ever heard... I'm sold...
You are welcome! So happy the explanation came through for you!
Thanks! Glad you are loving it. You have the sizes correct but the shell configurations are a HVLT (Vertical Low Timbre™ with a horizontal outer ply).
Glad you are liking it! Check the specs below! 7x8 X shell 8x10 VLT 9x12 VLT 12x14 X Floor Tom 14x16 VLX Floor Tom 18x22 VLX Bass drum 5.5x14 VLT Snare
John Wasn't the first to do all that, vertical and horizontal plies. just Took it a bit Farther. Sonor started it. Many years ago. The way they are starting to Manufacturer Drum heads Today, I think could possibly compensate eventually for that Process. These are Beautiful drums None the less. I think Drummers are Putting to much Emphasis on how their drums are made as opposed to Practicing and getting good. I think it was Thomas Pridgen that said, "He didn't care what type of drums he had, as long as he had a kit to play on. he just wanted to play, Thats really what it's all about.
@jameskirkbydrums
8 жыл бұрын
i kid you not, regardless of what,people say, it doesnt make a whole lotta difference under microphones. can make the most resonsnt drum in the world, and soon as you get it into the hands of an average drummer or into a studio/stage, theyll dampen it/gate it and compress it down so it becomes a thud sound.
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
8 жыл бұрын
+crymzynplague that's why you don't hire shitty drummers
@jameskirkbydrums
8 жыл бұрын
+Thingsandstuff lots of drummers dampen them, including guys like steve gadd. and as for gating/compressing, the majority of studios do that, including the big ones.
@RichieGeno88
8 жыл бұрын
+crymzynplague Very True. I guess Dampening is okay if it calls for that. I Prefer an open Drum & Room sound. with some overhead Mics. Give me that Big Open, British, Bonham sound, any day.
@JoseMTamez
7 жыл бұрын
Or hire shitty sound engineers. The instrument becomes more of a pleasure to play when it's the caliber of a DW kit. The sound of a wide open resonating wood sound that sings as opposed to a flat muffled drum that's actually a CB700 kit. It doesn't matter if you got an engineer that tells you to throw a fucking towel over all of your drums. Shitty sound guy, and suck ass drummer equals Simmons e-kit....Need I say more?
Much love to you and your drumming Master Lang.
Always loved DW drums, and I always will! You guys are amazing! :D
Viva Brazil! Thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching!
Future projects are implemented and installed every day but the sound world. For these questions give an optimal result for this great passion famous construction of drums. I love them.
All three of these kits look and sound the best!
Thanks for your feedback! We'll be here when you are ready!
One of the best drummer in the world with the best lover and expert in making drums.. i can feel the vibe from here..thanks for share
We love him, too! He passion comes through and it's pure! He's an honest scientist of wood!
They do know for sure! We are lucky to have them!
Although I'm a Sonor guy, I liked what I watched of the video (couldn't watch more than around 8-9 minutes). I really didn't know anything about grain orientation, or precisely what grain orientation changes in sound.. I mean, like all drummers, I knew it had something to do, but what it does, I had no idea. So this was really instructive! Definitly going to watch the whole video whenever I can!
Always with the quick wit!
Thomas lang is an amazing drummer. Honestly he would make any kit sound great. Its nice to see john so exited about their products. I think people like john are the reason dw make such great instruments. Nice informative video
Eco-X is made right here in our factory just like the Collector's Series and the Performance Series! We'll keep that mind for a video piece!
WOW~! Huge Informative Webinar for me right there ... A Couple of Good Guys Too~! now the weird part > Me, lol ... Guitar player since 81 Intrigued , or obsessed with The Big Dawgs / Player's in Rock , Neal~ Alex & so forth oh, Nickko too ... alot of not so well know Bad ass'es out there too...I Knew Nothing of Horiz~Vert~X grain before this. John Good has put undeniable thought in too these shell (1st Kit all me,lol) configurations ... My first introduction to "Thomas lang" already looking him up on youtube...Fellow union Iron worker out here in the Bay Area & serious about music or finally able to relate too Another Musician on the job Site, brought in his smallest baby Tom to show me in the Parking lot "DW" stating 9~10~11 piece kit i forget, that every shell looked like the one he showed me. I knew of "DW" & no one forced it on me but i started to feel feel as If "DW" leading the way now, seeing who's been playing them the last 15yrs. then my Job site friend said some thing real Intriguing about "DW' using Logs in Lake Michigan over 100yrs OLD~? ... incredible how some one could think to use those, Preserved.
Good enough! Thanks for chiming in!
Definitely could hear the different tones and can’t wait to make my next kit a DW! That was a fascinating video!!
@dwdrums
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
What an absolutely beautiful rendition to the instrument. Everything is great here.
Nice to see how the work is done on the drum shells, im a cymbalholic and not so long ago i've became intrested on how drum shells are made and how the diferent . DW by far has the best shell options and a awesome sound. Im huge fan for a long time and that won't change. Some day i will be a proud owner of a DW SSC kit with a 14" x 8" Colectors series Black nickel over Brass snare. The best metal snare sound i've ever listen thank you for making such awesome drums.
We hear you! Until then we hope what we have up will help clear up any questions about why the drums sound the way they do!
Ok well we hope our You-Tube page get you the insight on the shell construction at the very least. If you search around some you just mind find some finishes being featured, too!
Wow! You guys handle some good research! Nothing's more helpful when you can see/hear the real difference between all these things. Cool!
Thank the Big Guy for you our fine customer! We are very happy to hear your kit is going well for you!
Awesome thanks! We are very happy that you are liking the sound of the drums here. :)
I wish that a guitar company could broadcast those "webinars" (or something similar). This is so informative and absolutely awesome to see how wood works in order to get great tones and to hear the difference between grains etc.
Thank you! Great question. The default SSC for our new All-Cherry shells is HVLT, as is the kit in this video. That said, we stand by our Custom mantra allowing any SSC to be special-ordered, just like you see in the Mick Fleetwood "The Cherry Picked" video ( v=HsW8uVnYCmQ )
Check the specs below! 7x8 X shell 8x10 VLT 9x12 VLT 12x14 X Floor Tom 14x16 VLX Floor Tom 18x22 VLX Bass drum 5.5x14 VLT Snare Thanks so much for your kind feedback! We'll keep on keeping on!
We appreciate your comment! This would go well with guitar making for sure!
SXI96 we can only hope you can come back to see our response! No offense taken! Watching Thomas solo is an amazing experience. We are happy you are liking the sounds of the different kits.
Man I could hear the difference between each kit! I love this video. John Good thanks for being so dag-on detail! "Let the drums breathe!"
Favourite : Cherry 2nd Favourite: Maple Mahogany 3rd Favourite: Maple
@FeathersT21
6 жыл бұрын
Try to check out the Cherry/Mahoganny, best kit I've owned
Thanks so much for your honest feedback! We are happy that you have trusted our judgement on shell making. We are ready to make you a kit when you are ready for one!
What an amazing sounding woods.
And we will always love you, too! Thanks so much!
Its very hard to explain to people how my DW kits are timbre matched...and have different shell configurations...drum nerd unite! Thanks for the video...and for including the always fluid Thomas Lang!
Unbelievable technique of drum shells making!!! Great innovation! 👍👍
@dwdrums
3 жыл бұрын
🙏
SSC Is my favorite right now. DW is by far my favorite drum company! One day i will have a DW kit! One day! Thank you DW for doing what you do i love you guys!
The middle kit wins hands down for me. What a sound!! Excellent film. Thank you. All the best.
Glad you are liking it! Thanks so much!
Wow!----I wish I could afford such amazing instruments!!---truly amazing.
My passion for DW Drums just got higher after this...
Thank you Dw for making such beautiful drums, you always put a smile on my face, and I finally just got my first Dw kit, Its a Performance, im proud to play this amazing companies drums, and hardware!
It's always satisfying when you become closer to understand what exactly you want from the drums and kit in general and how to achieve it. I bet you had experienced a lot of cases "i want don't know what and don't know how" :) So you're damn right - There's never enough info :) Once again thank you for this video - now we know more about how it works!
hi john I wud like to say thank u so much for the dw brand kits. I own 3 dw kits and I play with a 3 piece jazz group and a 6 piece latin funk fusion group and I gotta say it doesn't matter what style im playin dws just covers it all. im doin a drum clinic in my home town of Hamilton in new Zealand and im havin a poster made up of me with my dw kits in the foreground for promos. so once again thanks so much.
You're welcome, and I thank all of you at DW for being there!
They are all Collector's series. Technically Jazz, SSC, Maple/Mahogany, Classic's, Birch and Cherry are all considered to be in the Collector's series. We just like have specific names for each shell type to have things clear. The second kit is just a clear lacquer.
Thanks for asking! We do not do pricing or direct sales from our factory here. Please feel free to contact your local authorized DW drums dealer for pricing and ordering info. thanks again! locator(dot)dwdrums(dot)com/drum/
absolutely! When john taps those raw shells into that Blue mic....WOW. Sounds like a full octave range can be achieved by simply manipulating the grain orientation.