And 25 years later, the New Orleans Saints would learn NOTHING from this and send Billy Cundiff out to attempt a hopeless 47 yard attempt in quite shitty Chicago weather, in the 2006 NFC Championship. And their chances of winning the game basically died there.

@baronbrrrrett

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah Billy Cundiff. The guy who got ran out of Baltimore for his missed kick in the afc championship

Rolf Benirschke ended up hosting Wheel of Fortune for a short time while Pat Sajak had a talk show. I've heard many claim the weather and the Miami epic as the reason the Chargers lost, but Cincinnati went into San Diego earlier and thumped the Chargers 40-17. These were the only two teams to regularly run 4 WR/1 RB sets or 2WR/2TE/1RB. The Redskins started doing more regularly the next year in former Chargers assistant Joe Gibb's 2nd seasons after getting the right personnel and went on to win the Super Bowl, copying the Bengals hybrid of spread and power running. Ken Anderson also used a primitive form of what would now be known as RPO. The Skins also used this with Theismann.

This was a forgotten gem and yes I agree, the worst field goal decision ever. Ironic that Don Cockroft had the longest kick in cold weather. His misses were the reason the Browns went for it on the doomed Red Right 88 play. That game was 4 degrees in Cleveland.

@igorslocks

2 жыл бұрын

Still remember watching that game in my parents living room at 5 years old and my father screaming in horror as Sipe threw that pick.

You mentioned the wind. This FG attempt was the first play of the 4th quarter. The Chargers let the clock run out on the previous play so they could switch sides and have the wind at their backs.

@leogetz3570

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was actually wondering that also

@humanbeing2420

9 ай бұрын

In his eagerness to inflate his arguments, he tends to get stuff wrong.

Knowing what I do about hypothermia and frostbite, the 13k who stayed home were the only folks not making dumb decisions.

I like this format. keep em coming!

This series is how I found the channel. Great series

In freezing conditions, the pressure a gas exerts on a container will decreases. So, the kickers were basically kicking a rock hard football that has lower air pressure. #Physics

Kicking a football that day was probably like kicking a cinder block. That said, that kick didn't make or break the Chargers. They got their asses handed to them that day.

Close second to the Dan Quinn call. That field goal hurt the Falcons' chances when it went in.

Plus factor in that 50+ FG'S weren't commonly made by anyone in those days.

Excellent piece. Incidentally, Don Cockroff's 50-yard field goal against the Cardinals barely cleared the crossbar, not the upright.

"Worst FG ever" *The Green Bay Packers have entered the chat*

@OfficialJaguarGator9

3 жыл бұрын

Got you covered: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fquex9alqqico5s.html

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

Chuck Knox sending John Kasay out for a FG down 19-3 against the Chiefs in the fourth quarter at the Kingdome in 1991, if only cause it totally caused the Behrings to misread the booing as 'WE WANT CHANGE!' (and thus Knox was gone after the season, leading to.........yeah) Not like it was a bad call, this is still a couple years out from the two point conversion, so it's still a three score game. I just can't think of a father and son as ill-fitted to run an NFL team (before the Khans anyway) so don't give them a reason to get involved

76 is too warm to be labeled perfect weather for a football game. Players like it 15-20 degrees lower.

@Jelperman

3 жыл бұрын

The weather in Miami started off pleasant enough but it got warmer and more humid by the 2nd quarter.

@bobsnow6242

2 жыл бұрын

Ordinary players maybe but the warmer air benefits kickers, even when the temperature isn't subzero.

Love this show, keep it coming

Long before the shame that was the "double doink" by the Chicago Bears' kicker Cody Parkey in 2018.

Chargers players and fans complain about the weather and claim that they would have won had the game been played in San Diego. Meanwhile, the Bengals played those Chargers in the regular season in San Diego and blew the pants off them in a game which would decide who had home field. In truth, had the game been played in San Diego, the Bengals likely would have embarrassed them a second time. The weather is why it was close.

@Jelperman

3 жыл бұрын

The following season the Chargers scored 50 against the same Bengals.

@PaulGaither

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jelperman - The 82 49ers didn't even make the playoffs, so what's your point? Teams change from year to year. The Chargers lost in the Divisional round in 82, so, again, what is your point? The 81 Chargers got smacked around at home and gave up their chance to host the title game.

@Jelperman

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulGaither Back then, teams' rosters mostly remained the same. This was before free agency. So the two teams, with all their starters had a rematch and the Bengals got thrashed. The moral to the story is don't place too much emphasis on a single game.

@PaulGaither

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jelperman - Players get drafted. Players retire. Players improve. Players decline. Football is a weak link sport, and even though free agency was still a thing for role players and depth players. Teams are not the same from one year to the next.

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

We gonna act like there wasn't an eight week strike in there that totally screwed everything up?

Even if Forrest Gregg didn't have those doors opened, Benirschke wasn't making that field goal. He had trouble making long FGs in GOOD weather!

Can't get enough of this channel bro.

You need to do a video on Kirk Cousins kneeling the ball instead of spiking it at the end of the half against the Eagles

@StarkTemplar

4 жыл бұрын

5 a or Derek Carr throwing the ball away on 4th down

@pronkb000

3 жыл бұрын

That's a brainlock, not really a dumb decision in the sense of this series. Like when you grab a jug of water to pour on your cereal.

I’ve kicked football in the cold. The thing is a ROCK! Rolf was a good kicker. But against the wind? I’m surprised the rock didn’t freeze to the frozen tundra.

Most kickers were right about the same level as Benirschke was 40 years ago. We think of a 50-yard field goal as nothing now, but in 1981 it was an accomplishment. He was actually the Chargers' kicker for a decade, made a Pro Bowl, and is on the Chargers' all-time team. With that said, there was no effin way anyone was making a 50-yard field goal under those conditions. I wouldn't bet on Justin Tucker to make that kick. Benirschke didn't have a chance in hell.

Whenever I wonder what Jaggator9 looks like, I cannot help but picture Brian Stelter... GOD I hope I'm wrong.

I grew up in Cincinnati and remember watching this game. What I remember vividly was seeing the Ohio River with all the steam coming off of it with all the clear blue sky and city skyline above and beyond. I also remember that there were a number of Bengals fans who were decorated in body paint, and little else, who were on camera a few times during the game. I didn't know about Forrest Gregg ordering them doors to be opened to let more air rush through the field. I did very much enjoy seeing Cincinnati advance to their first Super Bowl two weeks later which they lost to San Francisco, 26-21.

Somewhere out there Lin Elliott is watching and feeling vindicated.

Nice first Dumb Decisions video!

Ever try kicking a frozen rock. When i was a kid i went out in the backyard when it was like 20 degrees (windchill about 0) and thought I broke all my toes in one shot

Parcells used to pull that opening the gate at the Meadowlands,which was a perpetual wind tunnel in any weather

At one time the missed field goals were placed at the 20 yard line no matter where it was kicked from. Was this kicked during that time? I remember reading a story about Jan Stenerud attempting an 80 yarder in college but because he missed, the ball was placed at the 20. The punter was either injured or had a weak leg.

To be fair, that kick wouldn't have scored from 2 yards :D

That wouldn't have been good from 20 yards.

The Bengals didn't even attempt to block it LMAO

Nice love it

I wonder how people can avoid frostbite when the weather is that cold let alone anything else.

It was -59 wind chill not -37 wind chill.

@OfficialJaguarGator9

3 жыл бұрын

-37 under today’s formula, -59 based on the formula they used back then

@SarahDigsHockey

3 жыл бұрын

@@OfficialJaguarGator9 So which formula is the right one and what was the flaw in the one that's not being used?

@johnnyrottenpiss

3 жыл бұрын

@@SarahDigsHockey The internet is a great resource for you to find that out on your own.

@LOTR_BTTF

2 жыл бұрын

@@SarahDigsHockey Personally I'd go with the -37 one. There's a reason they changed the formula.

It was just as ugly watching it on tv. Fouts did not have a good game from what I remember

@Rockhound6165

3 жыл бұрын

No worse than Anderson. Turnovers killed the Chargers that game.

The ball probably felt like it broke his foot on that kick in this weather.

Who's responsible for this and how dare you defensive teams are gonna pay for this

Thanks for showing intelligent decisions..

Only a decade later the Chargers would get their chance to lose to the Niners in a SB.

Video suggestion. Making oj try on the glove

Wasn't the Tynes GW FG in the '07 NFC title game on the list? It was from 47 yards and game temp at Lambeau was right around 0 (second coldest game at Lambeau behind the Ice Bowl).

Worst field goal until the packers this year

The only kicker in NFL history I would trust to possibly make it in those conditions would be Sebastian Janikowski.

This is where it all started

-59 degrees and they thought they could kick a 50 yard feild goal!!?? Thats just ridiculously dumb cuz being that cold the football will be like kicking a rock!!? The ball wont compress when kicked cuz the ball will basically be frozen solid so theres NO WAY IN HELL he could make it!? Hed have probably been luck to make a 20-25 yard feild goal in those conditions!!?? U get into single digits and negative temperatures any chance of kicking a football, or any ball really, and having it go right pretty much goes right out the window!!??

Will the Pats not kicking the field goal in today's game against the Giants be a dumb decisions?

3:53 WRONG: That kick had the distance; it missed wide, but not short. Watch the replay and you can see the ball hit the netting behind the end zone. Don Criqui and John Brodie, calling the game, both agreed it had the distance. (kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2Rqr8F7qLSodKg.htmlsi=z2pxDL4QX0Y6AvgY)

the announced wind chill at game time was -61 F

Having lived in Cincy for 4 years as a kid, I think the worst decision was to play the game in those conditions rather than petitioning the NFL to move it to San Diego. I'm sure the Bengals' players and coaching staff would have been happy to trade home field advantage for getting away from that level of cold!

@averagecitizen8491

2 жыл бұрын

The chargers tried to petition the nfl to move the game to san diego. Paul Brown said not no but hell no.

Do a video on the Ice Bowl

Seriously, how can you pronounce Rolf’s name flawlessly, but mess up names like Jim Covert or Gaston Green? WTF?

They should have been using plastic whistles.

The ice bowl was worse....because the field was literally frozen ice. Lombardi had field warming system put in under the field....pipes buried with warm water running through them. The night before someone turned the water circulation off and the pipes busted and the water ran out and froze. The field was an ice rink

Not sure I understand your graph. Am I seeing field goals under 17 yards, what do the dots to the left of 20 yards mean?

@mgb4692

3 жыл бұрын

Before the goalposts were moved behind the endzone you could have eight and nine yard field goals (the lining up was generally a standard seven yards behind the LOS)

Does anybody knows about chemistry and games cold gas contracts and heat expands it

Well done & good on ya, mate! It took you a bit too long (like 3 minutes) to get to the point tho. Cheers! 🦘🇦🇺🍻

Hey, at least the kick was right down the middle.

More than any other playoff game, THIS GAME showed how important home field advantage can be.......Cincy won this game because of the bitter cold conditions because if they had played this game with warm temps, Dan Fouts and that Chargers offense would have picked Cincy apart.

@violenceteacher6669

3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. Cincy destroyed the Chargers in San Diego 41-17 in the regular season that same year.

Good start. Couldn't tell if I was watching sb Nation or what. Buuuuuutttt it was a unique topic. But work on finding your own style to set yourself apart. Also you probably chopped off 45 seconds to a minute. But keep it going

@toddbiesel4288

3 жыл бұрын

If he had said, "In the year of our Lord 1982," I might be confused as well.

Not a commie , Stacey!

Justin Tucker could probably make a 50-yarder under those conditions...

Start using maths... I'm gone.

Tucker would of made that kick.