They have some really good crew's down there. This is why we love steam engines, the never give up attitude. I think I can, I know I can. Great footage as well.

Although I hate to say it, part of the problem on this climb was the fact that the safety valves were blowing full for an awfully long time, just when the driver needed to hear exactly what the engine was doing, by way of the exhaust beat. It could be said that the fireman did his job too well, which ultimately caused problems for the driver. And at such low speed that high boiler pressure cannot be used, as it will simply cause more slipping. Even so, full marks to the driver for keeping that train on the move, if only just; he deserved a medal.

Cracking video!

Awesome video Mate bloody awesome!!! Thanks for sharing it!

That was certainly a challenge for 'The Duchess' David. Nice to see she recovered eventually. A truly superb video from day 2 of the rail tour. Regards - Allan.

@gcmet1063

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Allan , I really didn't think it would make it , but a good bit of driving saved the day . Cheers David

Excellent vid mate, you were just in the right spot!!

Excellent video. "Excellent" adhesion. Good pressure in the steam boiler. :D

She doesnt give up.Wonderful video.

Wonderful video, big thumbs up :)

@gcmet1063

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for viewing

In the days of steam even Kings were regularly double headed to tackle the South Devon banks with heavy trains. This was a heck of a load (ten coaches) for even a Duchess. Seeing how often these steam specials have diesel assistance I am surprised that there was no class 47 at the rear. Well done the driver, and the fireman who kept up a full head of steam throughout the incident

@richardjames3446

5 жыл бұрын

Of course that day was wet (it does'nt look it), on a dry clean track the Duchess would waltz it! There is always a risk here when the rails are wet.

@DeafIaint

4 жыл бұрын

On wet days they rely heavily on the sanders. Compare this with Clan Line"s performance with 10 on in 2018, with sanders working well.

@Rosie6857

3 жыл бұрын

Kings were allowed eleven coaches unassisted up Hemerdon and did it routinely. I have a log of one such run in the pouring rain and the minimum speed was 18 mph, so ten for a Duchess should be well within its capacity. The difference of course is that 4-6-2s are inherently more slippy than 4-6-0s due to weight transfer. I thought the driver coped with the slips very well. He kept his cool and must have been a bit knackered at the end of it - a regulator is rather more than a little plastic button. Why didn't we build more 2-8-2s or even 4-8-0s with a long (very long) narrow firebox like many other countries? More adhesion. 4-6-2s slip if you just look at them wrongly.

A great achievement to keep it going. I would hate to be stuck on a 1 in 42 with 10 coaches and having to shut off steam regularly due to slipping! Makes you wonder if the sanders weren't working properly or if damp or poorly flowing sand had been supplied, though. Not an easy task - see a clip of Nunney Castle crawling up the hill with 8 coaches, even with no slipping. There are plenty of engines over the years that have got stuck on Hemerdon.

@edmundbrain456

Жыл бұрын

Not that many really Only 34067 once .

@edmundbrain456

Жыл бұрын

In preserved days as I mentioned below only 34067 has stuck on the climb of Hemerdon, and thats because she was not in great condition that particularly day . Regarding working day,s im not too sure on that . I guess ypu had the occasional otoblem

@iankemp1131

Жыл бұрын

@@edmundbrain456 Given that an unrebuilt Bulleid Pacific once slipped to a standstill outside Shrewsbury on the level (!) in BR days and had to be banked into the station, and that they had problems on the steep gradients of the Somerset and Dorset line where Class 5 4-6-0s were more sure-footed, that seems logical. Historically there are records of various engines sticking on Hemerdon, though intermittently and over a century or more, including a Great Central Atlantic on a visit around 1903. Did a steam railtour get stuck on Dainton a few years back?

@edmundbrain456

Жыл бұрын

@@iankemp1131 Yes 5051 / 4930 in 1985 . 4930 was down to about 120 lbs of steam I believe . Some astonishing sounds 5051 attempting to move the whole train 13 Coaches to no avail unfortunatley . Regarding Bulleids it largely depended on handling .by the crew . They could do some wonderful work in the right hands . Look at video,s of 34067 climbing out of Weymouth around 2010 with 11 on (no diesel) and same loco with 34046 on the rear climbing Exeter bank 1/37 around 2014 .

@iankemp1131

Жыл бұрын

@@edmundbrain456 Indeed, for example the fine Bulleid performances in the 1948 locomotive exchanges. Conversely, the 1963 Shrewsbury incident occurred on a test run where ASLEF had specifically insisted that the crew should have no previous experience of a Bulleid Pacific! I'm told that modern synthetic seals make it easier to keep the oil bath oil-tight than in the past, and I reckon sanding gear and general maintenance is better than in the last days of BR steam. Even so, it seems Bulleids can be quite slippery customers; 35018 on a Carnforth-Hellifield leg springs to mind. I have never worked out why they seem particularly susceptible; regulator design? smooth steam passages?

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Min 5 :25 = ◆Für *_1 einzige Radumdrehung_* braucht die Lokomotive fast 10 Sekunden , und das dann mit *_4_* Dampfwolken - UNGLAUBLICH ! ◆For *_1 single wheel turn_* the locomotive needs almost 10 seconds, and that with *_4_* strong clouds of steam - INCREDIBLE ! ◆Pour *_une seule roue_* , la locomotive a besoin de presque 10 secondes, et cela avec *_4_* gros nuages de vapeur - INCROYABLE ! .,-b

That was a fenomenal piece of footage! An amazing performance from 6233, and with no diesel too :)

@AndreiTupolev

5 жыл бұрын

an amazing performance wouldn't have slipped to a stand

@Flyin9Scotsman

5 жыл бұрын

@@AndreiTupolev At least she made it with no need for assistance :)

@AndreiTupolev

5 жыл бұрын

@@Flyin9Scotsman To be sure, it was well done managing to get going again.

@Flyin9Scotsman

5 жыл бұрын

@@AndreiTupolev I agree with you there!

@gcmet1063

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for viewing

Great shots and stunning clag too. What gradient was it here?

@wingco214

5 жыл бұрын

1 in 42 at its maximum

@richardjames3446

5 жыл бұрын

1 in 41/42 for about 2 miles

@edmundbrain456

Жыл бұрын

1in 42 Matt

@mattseymour8637

Жыл бұрын

@@edmundbrain456 That's some gradient! She did well considering!

Beautiful! Super! thrilling! Thank you. Who's been spreading west country butter on the rails?

@gcmet1063

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you , a Network Rail worker did walk the track about a hour beforehand , maybe he was up to no good !

@richardjames3446

5 жыл бұрын

That may not be so funny after all! It made me think... there could be a joker about... it would not be the first time!

That would've been embarrassing if they'd had to send for assistance from Bristol or somewhere, since I doubt there'd be anything suitable at Laira.

@stumpytrain

5 жыл бұрын

The 47 that brought the stock down from Hackney Yard was still in Plymouth.

@gcmet1063

5 жыл бұрын

The West Coast class 47 bought the empty stock down and was still at Plymouth so I'm sure would have been called upon .

Crying shame to waste all that good steam, but very well recovered anyway!

I've seen footage of Castles,Light countries and merchant Navy and black 5 going up this bank. From evidence shown no leaves, no rain which means either the driver didn't fully release the brakes OR someone was play with the handbrakes

@garthhentley5957

4 жыл бұрын

Utter tosh.

@iankemp1131

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently it was more damp than it looks from the video. If there was any brake trouble you wouldn't get up the hill at all after the slipping.

good old peaks blasted up that bank with 10+ on a deltic e flattened it

@alanhyde8744

4 жыл бұрын

Anybody know the name of the Driver & Inspector .

GWR only built one Pacific (The Great Bear)!

@richardjames3446

5 жыл бұрын

Yes the Great Bear was unsuccessful and under- powered.

They were either late with the sanders or they weren't working right. Compare with the excellent accent by "Clan Line"- also with 10 on & sanders working well.

@edmundbrain456

Жыл бұрын

Was,nt that excellent she slipped also

going great guns until slipped at the apex of the curve...somewhat inevitable given the apparent small radius, taken at what looked like full power ...inexperience of this route and steam loco tractive characteristics by someone on the footplate ?

@highdownmartin

4 жыл бұрын

Damp rails big drivers heavy train and 1 in 40 gradient more like

@iankemp1131

2 жыл бұрын

Highly unlikely. 10 coaches up a 1 in 42 is a really tough proposition. See Nunney Castle struggle with 8 in another video. The shot is on telefoto so the radius is much larger than it looks, remembering that HSTs and Azumas run this route. The 4-6-2 will always be more likely to slip than a 4-6-0 so the crew did a pretty amazing job to keep it going.

@edmundbrain456

Жыл бұрын

Neither quite insulting comment actually Experienced driver and familiar with the route . Adhesion issue,s on early morning damp rails .

NO MERCII

Use the bloody Sanders and drop down to a low gear sooner! You need to get ready well in advance of the bank if you are going to get to the top without a slip!

10 coaches they should have put the 47 on rear be interesting how she will do it tomorrow with 10 coaches

@edmundbrain456

Жыл бұрын

No they should,nt . People paid for steam . She,s done load before no problem . Damp rails that morning