The best line in the movie....that's a lesson in life: Learn your craft...giftedness is not enough...🤔

@TheProdigyAccordion

4 жыл бұрын

Totally Agree!

@antoineraymond9301

3 жыл бұрын

Dwayne Haskins Should Hear This

@mosaine3929

3 жыл бұрын

@@antoineraymond9301 absolutely agree

@yannickwillems8523

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@kcnotjojo99

2 жыл бұрын

The moral of the story regarding that scene just clearly show you that hard work beats talent no matter how gifted you are still have to invest and put in the work by any mean necessary!!!

"if you dont have the honor and discipline to learn your craft, you dont deserve to be here" dam hit me soo hard!!

@rachelletanzil4963

4 жыл бұрын

He got him there he had nothing to say behind that.

@DubBeats

4 жыл бұрын

SouL 2k Yeah no band not going let you play if you don’t know the notes you got know music...

@yourevilhalf1413

4 жыл бұрын

No bands going to even know unless they pulled some shit like this.

@xxwyman4280

4 жыл бұрын

I go to an arts school and he broke rule number one. Know music lol

@orlandoprude3341

4 жыл бұрын

True

This movie had a great script

Street will only get you so far! Discipline,focus, integrity and education will take you all the way to the finish line!!

Dr lee was the professor i never had. Thank you Orlando

@SlokeX-cj6vj

5 жыл бұрын

He did a good job playing a college band director but his conducting sucked

@DubBeats

4 жыл бұрын

Sloke1001 X6 He was old school he wasn’t trying too be into other music like there rival Morris Brown College they was into hip hop doctor lee like hip hop but he was old school....

This part hit on a very common issue in the black college band community. Many black kids go into college on a drumline unable to read music, or play their basic rudiments.

@justinakinsola3305

2 жыл бұрын

Really?

I ain’t gonna lie, instead Sean exposing Him he should of helped Devon you feel me by teaching him how to read the notes. I think that Sean was more mad because Devon was more talented (naturally), and that he probably could carry the whole band to victory and take his position💀well idk

@Wwes1991

3 жыл бұрын

Devon didn't want to learn it

@codywhitlock8676

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree, he may not like the kid but he respects him. As a leader it’s his job to discipline him. He may have stepped him to the side to address is but with how arrogant he was with his actions he did deserve to be knocked down a notch. This is how you build him up. Devin had I in team attitude and learned how to be a follower before a leader. So respect to what he did.

@Goldjade14

3 жыл бұрын

Devon kinda deserved it . As their concept “ one band one sound “. He had too much attitude and ego. It’s all bout everyone working together as a whole rather then individuals . Yes maybe Sean could have handle it differently but either way works

@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319

3 жыл бұрын

Nick came at him with pride it's easy to help the humble talented guy but people like the see the prideful in the mud.

@bobbywhitney6262

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wwes1991Devon already learned it but he never applied it though… In high school that's not important. But I didn't like the point that Dr. Lee said that Devon lied OK... Devon auditioned he got excepted and Sean showed that Devon is not a strong reader of music. Where did Devon lied OK yes Devon is a very well talented and very precision percussionist I don't think Devon lied about anything all except that Devon is not a very strong music reader but Devon didn't lie about anything.

Nick did a good job of playing the roll of a lot of young adults other here,Thinking they know it all n shit

@captainplanet3901

4 жыл бұрын

So true

@rm5282

3 жыл бұрын

@@nerdygamerguy8378 you make a good point for an independent artist. The problem is the character in the movie was at a higher learning institution. He was required to read music. He games the system by not being first which allowed him to memorize the music. Reading music is not difficult. Playing is more difficult than reading but if you want to doore with you talent you have to apply yourself. Drummers that can read and play well have more opportunities.

@theswiftdragon1504

3 жыл бұрын

@Subject X I’m the same, I can’t read sheet music but I can listen to a song and play it, probably not as well as most though. I choose not to read sheet music because of dyslexia, I know I can still learn it with more effort, but I’m happy just playing by ear..

Devon needed to learn his craft Sean needed to be less spiteful

@kishascape

Жыл бұрын

They eventually both did and became friends at the end.

Devon really delivered this scene

I get that Devin couldn't read music but Sean did was dirty, he put him on the spot.

@joshuaburris9075

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget on love don't cost a thing Paris Morgan put him on the spot as well

@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319

Жыл бұрын

Devin was cocky, he could have ask for help, the talent was there but pride was in the way.

@dimensionzone8048

Жыл бұрын

@@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319 Sean still should've handled it better. You lead by example

@myballsitchsomethingfierce6319

Жыл бұрын

@@dimensionzone8048 No he handled like a man

He’s so right the band director shouldn’t expect you to play it perfectly on the first try they just want to make sure you’ve grasped what your looking at aka playing

@kishascape

Жыл бұрын

"what are you beavis and blockhead? I just wanna hear how it sounds" lmao 🤣

Fun Fact: A lot of the Parliament Funkadelic musicians were classically trained.

@rm5282

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the Funk Brothers from Mowtown were as well.

@calebdouglas7622

2 жыл бұрын

Verdine White of EWF learned how to play upright bass when he was young.

I’ve found reading music to be pretty simple as long as you learn the notes

That's the lesson many artists of today has forgotten, especially for most rappers.

@adriengray3332

Жыл бұрын

What lesson?

@trentonhamilton645

Жыл бұрын

@@adriengray3332 If you don't learn how to read or write music, and have the discipline to do so, you can't hone your craft.

You can only lie for so long, if you want something you have to practice till you get it.

The Reason Devon Couldn't Read Music Because At The Graduation Ceremony Scene Everybody Had Sheet Music in front of them except the percussion section

@bobbywhitney6262

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the percussion section didn't have sheet music in front of them but you're not gonna say that Devon and the other percussionist didn't know how to read music… That's the first thing you learn when you're playing in a high school band it's part of the class learning how to read music. Devon is an ear musician and knows how to play some drum cadences without sheet music.

@FreshIcee

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbywhitney6262 I agree. This also includes Concert Band and Orchestra Band

To separate the real from the imposters. It’s important to actually KNOW what your doing. This is the type of teaching i like to see.

The importance of reading music has different levels of importance. It depends on what you are doing. To some, having strong enough chops to play what someone shows you has to play is good enough.... some believe that if you can't read it you aren't really playing it.... you are playing at it. Myself, I prefer to have a chart to read. This helps me learn the piece exactly how it should be played AND allows me to repeat the performance. I also prefer to play with musicians that are also reading charts so that everyone involved can fit precisely in the performance. Reading also allows for more effective rehearsal time and allows the musicians to isolate where problems in the music are so they can be worked out. Now, playing by ear is a gift as well. Nothing WRONG with it... but I can imagine that the musician that plays only by ear may feel that "something" is missing or they may not have the confidence that the piece was played exactly as it should be. But, truth be told.... there are many "by ear" musicians that can play circles around the "readers" ..... but they just don't know why the music works like it does.

@CCMDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, it’s not an either or thing. Any good musician should be able to read AND play by ear.

See attitudes like that is what's killing many of young people.

Actually Devon did learn how to read music in high school that's music theory 101 and he would never have learned how to play certain drum cadences without reading some music and his band director in high school knew that. Devon is a "ear" musician one that can play notes by ear... Now we have Devon in college and now he has to prove what he has learned in high school which Devon forgot all about. Playing by ear is good but also reading music is even more important… But the question I have about this scene is what audition did Devon have to actually get accepted in the Atlanta A&T music program? Wouldn't Dr. Lee being a stickler about reading music knew right off the bat that Devon didn't know how to read music?

@alexescalante9171

2 жыл бұрын

In the performance it was given that he heard someone showed him or he heard it, but that's not what the point is. He has a talent, but up to this point he has succeeded through talent and nothing else. What his coach was trying to demonstrate was that talent and nothing else will get overshadowed. Plus, even with his bald head you learned as an audience member that he didn't care about rules, structure, or discipline. He only cared about his talent.

@joepropsnyc

Жыл бұрын

Not in NYC. They passed people without knowing how to read or write English, nevertheless Music. IJS...

2:09 my favorite part

I think it was more personal, I mean when it was time to show up Devon delivered. To me, Shawn was protecting his pride, not the line.

@CCMDrummer

5 жыл бұрын

I agree that it was personal. Even though Devon delivered, before that scene Devon and Sean had been going at it and Devon was acting like a cocky horse's ass. So, I don't blame Sean for what he did. Devon had it coming. Maybe Sean was looking out for his pride more than the line, but in the end it ultimately helped Devon and the line.

@rachelletanzil4963

4 жыл бұрын

He was protecting both.

@Sokeresa

4 жыл бұрын

Sean, played the perfect role of the less talented, but got there with hard work. Devon is the talented guy they thinks he can do without the hard work. Of course this was personal, and Devon deserved it, cause he started the whole rivalry. He agreed like the cool cat from the beginning, when in reality he didn't know half his craft. Powerful lesson

@yourevilhalf1413

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Sean wasn't protecting anything he just wanted Devin out, and for the being to jerk to anybody part I say Sean started it. But he didn't like the pushback he got

Sean may have been a jerk in the film jealous of Devin but he was right to show and test that he couldnt read music. Dr. Lee is shown to be a dedicated teacher but he can only do so much and Sean showed Devins flaw. Devin also came off as a talented but cocky freshman and lied to get into the school. He thought he could get away with it for 4 years and rely solely on natural ability. The fact that he acted like a jerk when he got busted made him unlikable during this point.

@runeboyz7

Жыл бұрын

I don't get it though. Natural Talent is supposed to be the best thing ever. You can't teach natural Talent. I was always told in just about everything that if you have a natural talent for it then you're immediately the best thing ever. And Devin is the best drummer they have. You would think they would overlook him not being able to read music and using his natural ability of being able to memorize beats that are played. Why didn't they just do that

Music Majors average like 8 classes worth 1 credit each

Flight of the bumblebee!!

"That was a b*tch move Shawn"

I don’t know how I remember this movie, it came out when I was 3 lol

I look back at this scene and realize that with Shawn it wasn’t completely personal. He was just trying to put a freshman who was feelin himself too much in his place.

@geneveaclayton565

2 жыл бұрын

Yes👍

When I was in high school marching band, we had to memorize at least 10 sheets of music on top of our football music and some other songs when we competed against college marching bands. Tbh, my high school marching band actually did a lot better than the University of Delaware’s marching band. And we even trained less than them on top of that.

CCM I see you really had it out Devon in the comments but Sean had it out for him since the beginning of the film. Devon's character was cocky and brash this scene was the reality check he needed. But even his bandmate and Dr Lee saw how spiteful Sean was towards and Dr. Lee went on to point it out. The haircut, wanting him to stumble at tree shake eliminations

@KDawg92801

3 жыл бұрын

Anybody who didn’t read the rule book would’ve had to get the haircut. Sean probably didn’t read it his first year and he’s bald.

@dimensionzone8048

Жыл бұрын

@Kennedy Wilson He wouldn't be that bald though lmao. He got a completely bald head. Devon has a shaved one

@jeremythompson6822

Жыл бұрын

@@dimensionzone8048 Sean kept forgetting to read to the rule book 🤣

To be honest I got through my entire four years of high school not knowing how to play the tuba LOL I literally just blew into it whenever my part of the band did, never got caught and if I did I wouldn't really care, I needed it. For an elective class and to get that letterman jacket for free

@jameikamcgeachy7758

4 жыл бұрын

Natasha Halberton all was an all all state snare drummer in high school barely knew how to read 😂😂

@AH-ev3zv

4 жыл бұрын

I'm so weak. Y'all never went down the row to see who knew their part? That's when you really get caught 😂😂😂

@yourevilhalf1413

4 жыл бұрын

@@AH-ev3zv pooh that shit would be mad embarrassing lol

@LEMATTOFFICIAL

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao!! How?! You a legend for that one

Cantcha read mister?cantcha read?

Dr. Lee was the fool here! When I auditioned for voice in College I had to read before the Dean of the College Of Music. Devin should have been given the same audition.

@CCMDrummer

3 жыл бұрын

That would be one way to look at it.

@Joe_Parmesan

2 жыл бұрын

That may have added extra frustration from Dr. Lee's perspective. He was enamored with Devon as a drummer, even tolerating him being a bit of a knucklehead since the first practice.

He wasn't trying to protect the line but to protect his big ego pride. That's why he had him to play it.

By the comments, u can tell who NEVER marched in band, let alone a drumline

P-4 Wow!

Talent vs hard work. The hard working man wouldn't undercut the talent like this. This is more like if the naturally gifted could style on the hard working man because it took him 1000 hours to learn something a prodigy learned in 5 minutes. Think Matt Damon math scene with the professor where he burns the papers

I'm just going to state the obvious: Most of your favorite singers and entertainers do NOT know how to read sheet music.

@rm5282

3 жыл бұрын

And plenty of them lose out on points because they cannot write what they create. You can't copywrite something you can't read because you couldn't write it down. You'll be dependent upon someone else. People that write songs and music scores or charts make more than people that just perform.

@rm5282

2 жыл бұрын

@Jiggling Baby genius, if you cannot ✍ you better get some software the can transcribe. Without that you have no record of it being yours. You think too damned simple. Why do you think so many artist don't own the stuff they have created? You better wake up. Go read the details at the official copyright government website. Once you record something only the sound of what you recorded is available for copyright if you complete the filing. If you don't have the music transcribed you will lose out on the written composition portion and any one can take your music, transcribe it and resale it without you getting a dime. You need to know the law before calling someone a liar.

@rm5282

2 жыл бұрын

@Jiggling Baby I understand the use of recording applications. You really need to research the copyright process. Go look at the US copyright office website. You will learn more about the legal process. I don't want you to potentially lose out on something you have created because someone knew the process better. Your sound and the actual composition have to be filed separately in most cases. Copyright sound doesn't cover the actual music notation.

@rm5282

2 жыл бұрын

@Jiggling Baby artist can own their own songs, they are often manipulated by the folks in the music industry to sign over their stuff. You need a good friendly lawyer to help you navigate corporate record labels. Protect yourself and your creation.

@rm5282

2 жыл бұрын

@Jiggling Baby sure the sound is protected but not the music notation. But regardless, you still have to formally file the paperwork.

Don’t think you know it all in you don’t....

Link full movie

What hurt me the most was when they did that to Floyd Mayweather, he couldnt read when they asked him, they laughed. Never laugh of others help them even if his not a favorite. Thats not respect.

That was not cool at all I would got mad too and ran off and he knew he couldn’t read the music 🎶

@CCMDrummer

5 жыл бұрын

The reason Sean showed Devlin up is because Devlin was dogging it and being a jerk. I would have done the same thing if I were in Sean's shoes.

@DubBeats

4 жыл бұрын

janae ingram Bro don’t be a jerk if you don’t like people challenge you....

@matthewdaxon9713

3 жыл бұрын

@@DubBeats no bro that’s wrong for real bro. You can’t be mad if some one else naturally talented with their hands.

@KnightsSportsLeader

3 жыл бұрын

@@CCMDrummer honestly I thought Sean was out of line too when I first watched it. It wasn’t till I got older that I realized he was just trying to put an arrogant freshman in his place.

@DubBeats

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaxon9713 Be honest Sean wasn’t hating on Devon he knew Devon was a gifted drummer he can move his hand but Devon through he was all that in a bag of chip but he couldn’t read music. Different is any position like sports are band you a qb you got learn read the plays you in band you got learn too read the notes you maybe the talented person on the team but don’t get mad when your captain call you out I mean I been there before when I play sports I never was cocky but your team want see the best in you...

That's the word word up cameo

Clearly he didn’t need to know how to read music

@CCMDrummer

3 жыл бұрын

Not according to Dr. Lee

Me and my brother play the drum sometimes on guitar hero I can't read that good I just didn't tell nobody I just said clips of my life not about making fun of Taylor I just knew people were taking advantage of me I put this 2015 nobody's business

Dr Lee was tough but he gave devona chance

What does this mean when I see somebody hiding in They feelings come in You 16 miles away so+🙄=¶

It's not enough to memorize. You must learn to read the music.🤷🤷🤷🙄🙄

I dont think its fair that u have to read music i never understood it myself u olay by ear too but i understand. That its rules.

@CCMDrummer

3 жыл бұрын

A good musician should be able to read AND play by ear.

@katesmith-thompson5500

3 жыл бұрын

Learning to read music is a good tool to have in your bag as a musician. I'm not the best at it but if I have to learn something quickly I'm so much better when I can listen and sight sing.

@chriscitizen5457

3 жыл бұрын

From junior high to high school you have to be able to read music. My daughters band director taught them to sight read. A piece of music you've never seen is put in fromnif you. You're give a few minutes to look over it thennu have to play it. Full time and tempo

0:22

longest intro to agt ever

How you know how to do music but don't know how to read music

***** @2:17

That didn't look like any snare music I have ever seen.

En español xq nosé igles se podra

It actually seems like nick cannon wasnt even acting hahaha. Hes got a weird head on his shoulders. I just looked this up because I remember my boy Tre doing a hilarious bit about 'I cant read' lol

Sooooo can anyone here explain how hard it is to read drum notes?

@CCMDrummer

5 жыл бұрын

For whatever reason, the movie was written in such a way that Devon skated thru middle school and high school without ever learning how to read. For those of us who had good band directors in real life during our preparatory school years, we would have probably been able to read fairly well when we reached collage. I can't imagine any drummer not knowing how to read drum scores. This is because I am a visual learner. However, in the movie, Devon was a auditory learner. He had the ability to learn his parts from watching the other drummers.

@Sokeresa

4 жыл бұрын

@@CCMDrummer i think this is like Hollywood vs reality type stuff, where the movie is trying to emphasize on the inner battle between the less talented but hard working, do it by the book Sean, and the talented but rebellious Devon. They are making it seem like it is possible. There is so many errors in this movie, i don't know where to start from. Just Look into the message that the movie is trying to bring, without checking for the spelling errors of the movie message lol.

Why would you lie on your application? That is something you should tell them if you can't read music

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Come bro play

You're in band but can't read music is like driving but not knowing what the street lights/signs mean. Devon was just lazy and lying about how lazy he really was lol. If it were the real world, he would have been kicked out of the band on the spot

Nadav sucks at googling because he cant read

Why is it such a big deal? Someone could teach him to read in like an hour, in a week of actual practice he'd be up to speed.

@soul2k114

5 жыл бұрын

he black

@freewayrail5732

5 жыл бұрын

Most definitely not gonna learn 1st chair music in an hr lol

@nickdfoxy

5 жыл бұрын

Then how come he had been drumming for years and still hadn't learned to read?

@TonyPerez816

5 жыл бұрын

I've been a percussionist for nearly 30 years, and like Devin I didn't know how to read when I started. It is to your advantage to have a good sense of rhythm and an ability to play by rote, but to suggest that he's going to learn to read in one hour, that's just plain old ignorant! He will have to put some time and effort into it, but it can be done. The real story here is how deficient dr. Lee was in evaluating candidates. Even though there's no such thing as a marching band "full ride" scholarship, a scholarship of that level would require a great deal of due diligence. It wouldn't be enough to just have a applicant say that they can do something oh, they would have to demonstrate the ability on multiple levels.

@TonyPerez816

5 жыл бұрын

@@nickdfoxy because he was playing in a subpar high school program that based on the introduction of the movie, plays 4th grade level material, and plays it poorly. Some people do have the ability to listen, watch, and imitate what they see. It seems that's what Devin had. Up to now, the movie has not been realistic with showing this. There's no way Devin could have learned all of that material unless he had a video or an audio file, but there would have been a lot of rehearsal up until now where it would have been obvious that he can't read on his own. College bands learn a lot of content and usually change shows every one or two weeks, so it would be really hard to get this far into the season. In any case, their rule book does specifically say that they have to know how to read music, so either way, regardless of his playing ability, he does not meet the standards as expressed in the rulebook.

???

Sean should’ve helped him from the start

@CCMDrummer

3 жыл бұрын

Devon was acting like a horse’s ass at the time. I’m not so sure I would have helped either until his attitude improved.

@KDawg92801

3 жыл бұрын

@@CCMDrummer even still he could’ve attempted to help, regardless of whether Devon wanted it or not

@rm5282

3 жыл бұрын

@@KDawg92801 you cannot make people learn. They have to want it for themselves.

@KDawg92801

3 жыл бұрын

@@rm5282 that’s why I said ATTEMPTED

@rm5282

3 жыл бұрын

@@KDawg92801 good point

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