You are blessed with tall ceilings. I remember it is said that sound reflections from fireplace makes it sound big on early Rudy Van Gelder's recordings.

There’s a bright side. It’s beautiful there! While you can… that area is, although completely different than anything you’re used to, very Cool indeed for drum recording fun. Looks to me as if, if all goes well… you will soon have a building very unlikely to be taken from you, after forming a bond with it is completed. Hope you can acclimate and soon feel normal there and have fun.

A nice big double-height drum room like that is just begging for some heavily compressed distant room mics for a massive Bonham sound. I wouldn’t be fighting that big space, I’d be using compression to suck up and saturate it as much as possible for a powerful sound

Love to see some LEWITT mics on drums 😉Great video Ryan!

Exciting news about your custom studio build!

I like how you turnt the room down quickly lolllll!!! The drums sound good in there man!!!!!!!

Good to see you moving forward.... Very inspiring!

Dude, that room sounds amazing.

Great to see you’re keeping on pushing! Love the honesty of your channel and vids. Keep on truckin’! All the best from the uk!!

Great to see you back again. Wishing you all the best.

the extra decay will be really 80's-ish in a mix! can't wait to see more vids. So many people recording NOT in legit studios anymore. Recording in houses becoming attractive because of the potentially wider spaces.

awesome video as always Ryan. Love that you're going to be doing so much in a home. That will make for some useful education and highly entertaining experiments.

Exciting times for you, Ryan! I dig the space.

Love the sound, very Bonham-ish!Have a great day!

Sounds great as always on this channel.

I like what's going on here. I actually dig the room sound, honestly. Also, I love that you're a Studio One user.

That floor Tom sounds absolutely live, I love it.

Great vid!

Great sounding room! High ceilings really are nice for drums huh 😁

I dig the clock on the wall where your drums are. Good that the ceiling is high enough. I could see me whackin' my head on it 4 or 5 times a day if it were my house, (we got real low ceilings). Good luck with everything. Lookin' forward to the new build.

I dig the new look and working in a more realistic environment. Keep posting.

The tent idea is really good.

Drums sound great in that room. Get a really nice Zep sound but I do understand if you don't want all of that room sound. Probably have to do it in the garage then. I like the look of the DAW as the background on the green screen the best.

Ryan! Best of luck with the new setup. We've been going through major changes also and it's a challenge, but ultimately one that had to happen. Getting out of our comfort zone is like exercise: It may hurt a bit but is good for us! As far as something to try in your new setup, how about a pair of stereo room mics on the floor? Then, either record them with 25 ms delay or add it in post. Since 1ms roughly equals one foot of distance, you can dial in a delay to make the room sound bigger. I saw a video where Steve Albini did something like this with Oktava MK-012 omnis. I've tried it with stereo ribbon and it's kinda cool. Having a great room really helps, and your parents place looks amazing! All my best! chaz

Hey Ryan, the green screen background looks just fine, dont sweat it. Also, love how vibey your place looks, well maybe because its a lot more relatable haha. I personally love super roomy drums but yes I understand that they wont suit every song, maybe some acoustic treatment or baffles will help.

Great video, Ryan! I really enjoyed this! Good to see you're getting up and running. I'm looking forward to seeing the progress with your studio build down the line. I always do the 'guerrilla' style recording method where I'm recording in less-than-ideal rooms for a day (especially for drums). Whenever I record drums in loud/reverberant rooms like this, I always put 4-6 4ft x 2ft gobos with insulation that's about 6" thick around the drum kit to dry out the close mics as much as I can, then let the room be as lively as possible and leave it untouched. If I'm using 4 gobos, I put two at the front by the kick angled inwards (leaving a little gap for the kick to more easily go into the room mics), then another two to the left and right of the drums to isolate the drum shells and cymbals from the walls. If I'm using 6 gobos, I put the last two towards the back of the drummer which creates a hexagonal type shape. By putting free-standing gobos around the drums, you're going a long way to add more focus to the close mics so they're not washy because of the room tainting them. I've found it does a bit to help with the overheads, too. Recording in a room of that size will eliminate the risk of any prangy flutter echo in the room mics though!

@creativesoundlab

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Will def have to do this!

I'd say overheads and room Mics are an excellent place to start. I've personally been experimenting with a drum a bus. with that ive been using compression and a limiter to get some solid audio through the headphones, with only intention to develop the my individual stems. which might possibly lead to the drums being minx in place. whatever is required for the specific piece of music or part.

I wonder if you bring the OH mics a little closer to the drums, even though it might not be your typical approach it could possibly help get the cymbals and snare a little less roomy sounding, also the stereo room mic could be lowered a lot more and you can experiment with a delay to give a farther away sound if you like that, but with less reflections overall because the mic is closer to the source before you add delay which wouldn't add that part of the sound you might not like. I record in weird rooms all the time, so there is some trial and experimentation which can be a lot of fun...there is always drum enhancement with samples too like with slate trigger. Love the videos!!

This is pretty much my dream house, where I can get a good drum sound and not have to have a dedicated studio to do so. I would just build a frame that could go over the drums and put some heavy blankets over the top/sides if you want dryer overheads. That is an easy problem to solve, but you can't create a large room from a small one.

Maybe try a makeshift acoustic cloud over the drums or if not possible, maybe even just a foam behind the overhead mic (stuck through the stand maybe)? I was wondering if this would make the overheads a little tighter and different compared to the actual room mic. Also, I've found that sometimes mono overhead placed Ringo-style is less roomy. Maybe mono oh vs stereo room is okey? Thanks for a nice video!

Don't sweat the green screen Ryan. I think it looks good. As far as the drum sound is concerned, I love natural room ambience, so I thought it sounded great...even under compression. A very usable sound.

I dont know about that. Bring the close mics up more and less room. I think it sounds really good. You might not need compression and ib an entire mix you won't notice the extra ambience. I think this room is perfect.

Wow change👍🎸🎼

My living room has the same design, and I was thinking I could make a "drumbrella" (Eric Valintine) kind of thing with an outdoor canopy and some moving blankets over the top.

BTW, have you considered setting up a makeshift drum overhead tent? It might help a lot with the overheads

@DynamicRockers

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Oh yeah like those "drumbrella" pendants. Eric Valentine had one at BarefootRecording. They are super nifty!

@weschilton

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@@DynamicRockers yeah drumbrella... I couldn't remember the name, thanks!

Ryan, this video hits very close to home. I have a small home studio setup where I am constantly dealing with acoustic issues. My drums, tape machine, console are in a really small room connected to a huge living area. I have chosen to live with the "live" drum room sound (which works well enough with my garage rock style) because the thought of sound proofing my house would be not only costly but not so great looking on the eyes. After a while you learn to embrace the uglyness in your favor, a la "Shitty is Pretty". I started making some tutorial videos of my own. I think a video detailing my constant issues with room sound and how I get around it would be an insightful addition to the list of videos. Cheers, Mario

@legacyShredder1

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I build and sell gobos to various people and studios. The folks who buy them and myself included use them for taming rooms, and in some cases adding life to dead rooms. They're fairly simple to make and they cost very little to build. If you have to buy them they're pretty expensive. Have you ever tried using free standing gobos/acoustic treatment? You can move them anywhere you want, and they don't have to be drilled into a wall.

@Mario_DiSanto

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@@legacyShredder1 I've considered it a few times. The issue was always a matter of space. However, in my current living situation that's no longer an issue. What materials do you recommend?

@legacyShredder1

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@@Mario_DiSanto I use various insulation batting materials: Owens Corning Thermofiber - Fire And Sound, Roxul Safe and Sound, Owens Corning 703/705. They typically come in 3 inch thick 14-24 inch wide and 48 inch tall batts. They are sold with usually 10-12 insulation panels per package. The Owens Corning Thermofiber Fire and Safe is my most favored as it's cheaper, but overall better for my purposes. If I'm taming reflections I use a single panel of the insulation and I frame it with 3 or 4 inch wide lumber. The lumber I buy is the inexpensive white pine (usually) that is 1''x3''x8'. If they have the 10 foot long boards I buy those as it's more cost effective. If I want more sound isolation, bass trapping, and taming reflections I use 2 or 3 of the insulation panels to make it 6''-9'' thick. The lumber I frame it in with is the same width as the insulation. If it's 6'' of insulation I frame it with 1x6'' boards (bought as 1''x6''x8'.) If the insulation is 9'' I frame it with 1''x10''. I cover them all with cloth front and back so the sound can get in and out. You can find all sorts of videos on how to build the frames with the insulation. If you want them free standing just add a couple planks of wood at the bottom for feet so they will remain standing upright.

@Mario_DiSanto

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@@legacyShredder1 Thanks for your response. - Mario

@legacyShredder1

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@@Mario_DiSanto You're welcome. Music is my first love, and I want everyone to have the best chance for their personal success. BTW I checked out your videos last night. The acid trip one is kind of funny.

I see you say its a bit of too much I understand. It depends on the style of music I guess sound wise you going for. I like either way!!

Do you have a list of your equipment anywhere?

but dude you could get a really close Bonham sound in that room. you should try it

Hey, I think it sounds really good considering what you have to work with. You're fortunate not to be stuck in a room with 8-foot ceilings. Small blessings :)

Hey Ryan, i love how the drums sound. I don't know how you think about drumsamples, but i'd really like to use sounds like that. Are you interested in recording multivelocity drumhits? Would pay for it of course. Maybe there are more people WHO are interested in buying them also. Thanks for your content!

@creativesoundlab

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Yeah I’ve thought about samples. I think there is a market for drum samples that are not perfect sounds that are recorded at Capital.

@marekords7805

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@@creativesoundlab Exactly. Most of them are way too polished and processed for my styles/genres/taste.

What DAW are you using?

that's really cool. That tall ceiling is a drummer's dream. BUT PLEASE, please...cover that pink fluffy insulation if you are going to leave that above you. I'm sure you know it, but that stuff destroys your lungs and it doesn't work itself back out of you easy if at all.

@Sunkenballs12

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Does rock wool have the same issue

@weschilton

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@@Sunkenballs12 Pretty much any uncovered insulation material is bad to breathe in... best to enclose it.

@thesonicsolution1976

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@@Sunkenballs12 - Yes. You should always cover rockwool with a thin layer of painter's plastic once you have it in a frame. Then wrap the frame and rockwool with a fabric. The plastic will reflect a small amount of the highs back into the room and keep it a little more lively, but the mid and bass will go right through it like it should. You dont want those small fibers floating around the place you are planning on spending a lot of time in

Try micing a Cajon?

That's the Red Hot Chili Peppers Blood Sugar Sex Magik sound.

Is it you on Telegram asking info for a give away?!

@creativesoundlab

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Not me!!!

Hey there, Ryan. I just got a reply that is supposed to be from you saying I've won a prize. It was accompanied by an email from youtube informing me of the reply. Pretty sure it's a scam, so thought I should alert you.

@creativesoundlab

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Not me!!!

@oneammonday

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@@creativesoundlab Yeah, I thought so. Thanks for responding. Good luck with the coming studio build. Fingers crossed for you. Later.

PS, don't pay any attention to the trolls.