ferrari looks and sounds much better in my opinion, but im sure some may disagree.

@j400wel

9 жыл бұрын

I disagree,I think the mclaren looks better

@mehmetm12

9 жыл бұрын

"ferrari'... it says it all, no need for an explanation

@jakestimson3451

9 жыл бұрын

j400wel agreed

@DrivingDallas214

9 жыл бұрын

Ragonk

@celt67

9 жыл бұрын

Chris Fokjohn No "everyone" doesnt.

He didn't admit to the 458 being better in a single category, almost noise but then immediately shot that down lol A little biased aren't we Shmee?

@ImRiixBruh

9 жыл бұрын

kooldog88 He has always been at McLaren and it's obviously preference.. there are people out there who prefer the idling engine of a 69 camaro over any new supercar. Yes he might be picking the McLaren over the Ferrari as a 'fanboy' but come on it's just all down to prefference.

@Ashen4g

9 жыл бұрын

i would say the ferrari is a different car, it is traditionally italian compared to the hightech mclaren, intresting how the two companies compare

@netweed09

5 жыл бұрын

What you expect, a robot? he has emotions you know -,-

People asked why he chose the 650, now he makes a video comparing it to a competitor and people get pissed when the mclaren is the better car -_-

Could not be more biased, I'd take the Ferrari.

@veemacks7255

9 жыл бұрын

Man who had a choice of a massive variety of cars to choose from with that budget prefers the car he chose over another one. Shock headline huh. Of course he prefers the McLaren. If he didn't, he'd currently be owning a 458.

@alanzyoutube

9 жыл бұрын

Tim has already said in a previous video why he decided to buy a 650S over a 458, Huracán & something else a Aston Martin i think it was.

@rmagee28rm

9 жыл бұрын

Well obviously it's going to be biased he was giving his opinion, he can't really give his opinion without being biased.....

@Wishwader

9 жыл бұрын

If you're going to stumble into someone's channel and blurt out "bias" you should at least explain why you think this. Otherwise you're filed under Troll. Not sure why you'd have an emotional attachment to a car I highly doubt you've ever owned.

@IbizaTunez

9 жыл бұрын

The purpose of the video was to do a back to back review of both cars. Regardless of whether he owns one of the cars or not, it would be nice if he could suppress his prejudice and give a more rounded review. Whether you agree or not it's just a opinion. Far from a troll, I'm a long time subscriber and a big fan of Tim! It's actually nice to see how quick everyone is to defend him to be honest...

i wasn't a fan of the 12c and 650s exhaust sound but i saw a 12c today in real life and it sounded amazing really deep sound and the owner juiced it abit for me which was awesome, i would definitely buy one.

@HarizHafiGarden

9 жыл бұрын

Ikr even I didn't like it but when I heard it IRL it sounds so much better than other Turbo cars

@kenanlambo

9 жыл бұрын

Those Mclaren's will surprise a lot of people, you just got to see one and experience the sound and looks. As a big 458 enthusiast, I like Shmee's 650S a lot more. And that's not just based on this video but experiencing them both.

@Bournefort

9 жыл бұрын

It's funny you say that because I saw my first Mclaren last week. I live in Minnesota so it was expecially unusual to see a 650S driving on the salty, winter roads. The car looked amazing in person. I followed the guy onto a highway enterance ramp and he took off.

@iLLGT2

8 жыл бұрын

+MrJohnjake its really a shame guys, that more people dont get to experience mclarens sheer brilliance/true sound/rawness from hard driving. I daily drive mine and im a Porsche guy (tracked my RUF GT2 for over 5 years) and the mclaren is an animal, yet can be comfy. Mclaren with inconel sports sounds ridiculous, crazy loud and mechanical/exotic sounding Im glad you guys posted these comments cause tons of people post BS and have never even heard, seen, driven these cars... quite ignorant Cheers guys :) ps I had a 458 , lasted 1 week. 1

after seeing them side by side...first time ever i'm beginning to favour how much more advanced the 650s is compared to the 458

Ferrari sounds so much better. Also has more elegant and aggressive lines. It's like a cat about to pounce. Hard to compete with Pininfarina design. Ferrari interior and dash nicer also. Good review, but he's politely biased.

I love this format of video. Please keep doing this..

Thank you for FINALLY adopting this camera angle. So much more enjoyable and intuitive to view. Thanks for sharing

Hi I watch all of your videos and I think you are great and the videos. Keep on Doug what you are you doing.

Awesome video! Keep it going!

Great review!

He still didn't mention the best bit about the Ferrari, the shift lights on the steering wheel, and i prefer the front of the 650S but the back of the Ferrari.

Awesome vid

Shmee150 Hi Tim, I was wondering what do you think is the best supercar with four seats. Maserati Granturismo S, Aston Martin DB9 or Volante, Bentley C GTC. Your opinion would be appreciated. Cheers

Hey Shmee, great videos. Could you make more POV view videos around towns, city, country road.

@bmwfanz

9 жыл бұрын

Shmee150

My God i would go to Ferrari every time... Styling, interior, that NOISE is like a drug... perfect car, just perfect.

2 question tim: who is driving both cars when you are driving one? and this is silly but, the 458 have a ratio?

What camera did you use for inside the cars? I'm currently looking for a sort of camera like that, can you tell me what it is called? Thanks! And keep up the good video's Tim! Cheers

@tankionline675

9 жыл бұрын

Inside I think he used a gopro on a stand

The McLaren sounds incredible in the cabin!

What are those red dots that light up on top of steering wheel?

@tankionline675

9 жыл бұрын

Those are shit lights like you would find on a F1 car

Informative video. Thanks. I'd imagine that the carbon tub in the 650s reduces scuttle shake considerably.

I would choose a P1 over anything. Also the 650s over the ferrari.

@JackSwatman

9 жыл бұрын

Over an f1?

@a5punits

9 жыл бұрын

I'd rather have a 918 tho

@TheXeffx

9 жыл бұрын

salvador kleijn murcielago is one of the most beautiful cars out there, but i still love the P1's look. For handling i would choose the 918

@a5punits

9 жыл бұрын

Xeffx i really dont like the mercielago a bit. actuelly hate it xD. if i'd buy a lambo it would be a gallardo

@a5punits

9 жыл бұрын

salvador kleijn thanks man ! im only 17 so i still have a decent time ^^ but my dream car is a Koenigsegg Agera R so that might take a long time :) get a good aducation and get a good job, it wil be fine :D

Tim, I can't believe how far you've come in 5 years! When was the last time you only had 69K views on a video? Something tells me that today you might pick the 458 if you had to choose. Cheers!

Where abouts is this? Looks like a good set of b-roads, for a sunday blast in the countryside.

Good road through Hare Street and Barkway (if you avoid the one or two potholes!)

Great review, Tety has great test, I think you nailed it...the 650S has a superior cf mono.

Hello Shmee, i want to ask about your personal opinion of bentley continental gt because you were driven one. :) And you live in London, so i want to also ask, how good are roads in London for supercar, i've never been in London before but i guess there must be very rush traffic. Hope i don't bother you much. Happy miles in front of you in McLaren! Cheers.

The one big problem the Mclaren has, is that the interior is way too boring, in my opinion, and doesn't look luxurious. I mean, A Ford Focus has similar looking knobs... And the exterior only looks good in certain colours. The Ferrari sounds great, looks great, and leaves a better impression.

@Son37Lumiere

9 жыл бұрын

The 458's interior is also bland. I would not call it special in any way.

@vitalykutuzov3331

9 жыл бұрын

Son37Lumiere Actually, it's the perfect interior for a sports car- everything is driver orientated, and I like the shapes, and the carbon trim. Here's a nice picture: www.hotszots.eu/_galler/IMG/FERRARI/Ferrari-458-Spider-2011-hdwallpapers%20(15).jpg

@Son37Lumiere

9 жыл бұрын

Vitaly Kutuzov Not any better than this. www.sssupersports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/5-yellow-mclaren-650s-spider-steering-wheel.jpg

@vitalykutuzov3331

9 жыл бұрын

Son37Lumiere I guess we have a different taste for interiors, but Mclaren's interior seems too boring and ordinary to me.

@Speednote10

9 жыл бұрын

Son37Lumiere That's the first picture of a 650s interior that I've seen that I really liked.. It looks amazing in that spec and especially in that light! But if you look at the video (and every other picture..) it looks pretty bland imo (sorry schmee) On the other hand the 458 isn't that great either.

Maybe i'm alone in saying that i don't really like the sort of flat plane v8 noise that the 458 makes. Sounds like a huge four cylinder. And yes, i've heard them in real life quite a few times. Sounds just like a big angry four banger. Pwaaarp pwaaaarp. No thanks.

@AntoineMardhel

9 жыл бұрын

You're not alone don't worry..

@victorpla29

9 жыл бұрын

Because is a Flat Plane Crank

Is that a cyst on the back left side of his neck?

The Mclaren looks really bumpy as well, going by how much the camera shakes

Love your vids Tim, I do get the feeling though that, you feel the McLaren is superior in nearly every way. Which I found surprising, but I have to say, when you compare the stuff you mention, carbon tub, horsepower, weight, looks, doors, air-brak, ride-quality and most of all price, I have to conclude compared to the Ferrari your car is a bargain. I know your personal preference isn't the Ferrari otherwise you would have gotten that, but do you feel getting the McLaren is a no-brainer or would you still advice people to get the Ferrari instead?

National speed limit? Matching your speed to the conditions of the road is far safer than constantly watching your speedo to see if you are a few miles per hour over an artificially imposed, numerical limit.

@Shmee150

9 жыл бұрын

Namaste1001 I totally agree, what a nanny state we live in. But sadly the vast majority aren't interested in driving and for them the interest isn't there to be constantly calculating what speeds are safe and reasonable at any given time. As a result of this the rest of us have to wait for those signs to be past in order to accelerate up from 30mph.

@daviddavidson458

9 жыл бұрын

Shmee150 hello, videos conduction tests are very good, beautiful cars congratulations.

@Namaste1001

9 жыл бұрын

Shmee150 I don't have a problem with going slow in towns. in fact, sometimes it may be dangerous to do the maximum 30,mph suggested. say near a school. It's the blind obedience to rules over common sense forced upon people with threats of punishment that I have a problem with.

how much did the McLaren 650s spider cost because I swear the Ferrari 458 spider is £197,??? and the coupè version of the McLaren is £195,??? so how much is the spider version of the 650s?

To be honest... I prefer the Ferrari, always have done. Will you upgrade to the 675lt or the 488 gtb when they are available?

So is the 675lt the mid range mclaren? I thought it was going to be the new baby mclaren ?

@tankionline675

9 жыл бұрын

The McLaren sports series will be the baby. It's on their website. The 675LT will be higher up than the 650S

19 minutes long! Nice! Although sorry Tim, I think I prefer the 458 :)

Which car did you drive first after you ended the video?

Good review. I'd choose the 458 simply because its naturally aspirated. When it comes to the next gen, my choice might be different.

shmee, do more of these reviews, better than constantly watching clarkson's

Both great but I would pick the 650S for sure. I like the design and the sound much better too

Why didn't you put the top down on the McLaren 650

Please do a video like this with the Aventador Roadster

@tankionline675

9 жыл бұрын

Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 vs Ferrari F12

2001 McLaren 650S Nothing about your company called the win the red cross blood pressure monitor Any other information in this evening this time.

Scared the sh** out of me when you where talking about the screens of the 650S and suddenly the 458 appears in the camera view... Thought you where going to crash. My heart is still beating... :)

I have a McLaren 720S and I just purchased a 458 spider with capristo exhaust.I don't care what she makes as the Ferrari is so much more fun to drive It is like comparing apples to a walnut. Well the McLarens are blistering fast the Ferrari is beautiful timeless and the sound and I'm talking about the naturally aspirated Ferraris is unbeatable

Hard to compare these 2 cars. The 458 is the last of Ferrari's naturally aspirated V8 cars. Of course it is down on power and torque, but it does sound a million times better than the 650s. A far better comparison will be with the 488 GTB when is out.

Yes Shmee all the journalists even more the UK journalist are wrong, because all of they prefer the 458, because when you buy this cars the most important thing is the way it feels when you are driving at 40 miles, really Shmee!!. Speed is one thing, passion and soul is another, 12C was so bad at that they have to do 650. But if you compare to the 458 Speciale then is like day and night so much more passion and feel. I´m just sad that know Ferrari is going turbo way, like Mclaren, and the sound will not be the same thing.

@tankionline675

9 жыл бұрын

The McLaren is more practical. You don't realize that Car and Driver preferred the 12C over the 458 do you? The 458 may have more soul but that's it.

@ImRiixBruh

9 жыл бұрын

do you like the Ferrari F40? You probably do like anyone else. Now stop crying about the 488gtb being a Turbo'd car because the F40 is as well -_-"

@richardhurr31

9 жыл бұрын

Joshua Moy supercars aren't really meant to be practical. If you want practical you buy a Mercedes/BMW/Audi, which most supercar owners have as their daily car.

@tankionline675

9 жыл бұрын

Richard Hurr They may not be meant to be practical but that's part of the reason why you can't use them everyday. The 12C/650S is a daily drive supercar

@richardhurr31

9 жыл бұрын

Joshua Moy somebody will still probably key it when left unattended or ding it with their doors in supermarket car parks.

Fair review. Really thought Shmee didn't like Ferraris.

Good video and a nice new perspective for those 2 cars, instead of giving them all you got on a track... Ferrari 458 is a really good car, but for the "same" price 650s beats the heck out of it for me, 80+ bhp and 100+ lb ft is really quite a big difference, also it's really visible the 650s has a more comfortable ride than the 458 Btw. You should really try to get a proper Lavalier microphone/recoreder setup, it's a lot harder to hear you when you turn the camera away from you and it's quite hard to hear what you're saying during the whole time you were in the cars...

How come the McLaren's steering wheel is designed after Lewis's and not Jenson's

Seems like the transmission takes 3x as long to shift as the Ferrari.

Must say I am and always been a Ferrari fan, however must admit from these two McLaren would be my clear choice. No doubt.

The sound must be deafening tim

McLaren definitely spent more time working on the interior design and it has harmony. The Ferrari looks a little disjoined on the passenger side especially the air vents. The McLaren has kind of a american V8 sound vs the super bike sound of the Ferrari. Depending on what makes you happy it could go ether way, I don't see someone cross shopping these two cars.

@TheMasterdog3

9 жыл бұрын

"I cant see someone cross shopping these" what the actual fuck. The 650s and 458 are direct competitors what the fuck else would you shop against? A Aventador, but that's it. A 458 and 650s are totally competitors wow way to show your lack of car knowledge.

@DiscoR53

9 жыл бұрын

Mr. Smith, I see that you appear to be very emotional/passionate in your response. It's an open opinion and you are entitled to your opinion as much as I'm entitled to mine. I'm not here to hurl expletives or prove the lack of intelligence by using such language. Do you kiss your significant other and children or say a kind word with that that mouth mouth of yours? Or do you suffer from Tourette's and you're off your medication?

The styling of the 458 more than makes up for what it lacks in power and comfort compared to the 650s

Haha the bias in your review is ridiculous :P Enjoyed the vid though.

Whatever happened to Tety Tudor Tim? She hasn't posted anything in years!

All the journalist say the same thing because it's true, Mclaren feels like an extremely fast automatic car but emotionally it's not in the same league as the 458 in terms of being a drivers car, feedback, sound. Especially off the track 458 as a daily driver, just as Mclaren is in another league in terms of speed.

@JackSwatman

9 жыл бұрын

You'd choose 458 as a daily, I'd do te flip, 458 speciale as a track day weapon, 650 as a daily, less aggressive. Softer, more mod cons when compared to the speciale

Just checked her instagram and she posted the Jaguar C-X75 for the new James Bond movie. It looks awesome. Also liked this video. Two main sellers from each company is a good comparison.

These roads are tight as shit!

I'll take one of each please.

3:20 Oh look,you caught up to a Mantis green 650S. What are the odds of that......

I don't know about you but Shmee sounded like he was milking the Mclaren badly coming to the end of the vid. I know the ultimate plan must be to have the P1 one day!

Awesome Cars.... In The summer are you going to get a new "toy" ?

@JackSwatman

9 жыл бұрын

I wish renault would make the twin'run, that would be a brilliant toy

Based on the camera, the McLaren looks so much more comfortable

Tety has a lot more cars than that 458! O.O

I don't think this is a fair comparison, the 650s (i agree in this case is a better car) is like 3 to 4 years newer than the ferrari, because this one is the old version not the 2013/2014 one, the 650s must be compared properly against the 488 gtb (i know we will have to wait for that) and this 2010/2011/2012 ferrari 458 spider must be compared with the mp4 - 12C. I understand that for today this would be the most suitable comparisons to do because of the current "transition time" we are having between the 458 to the 488, and that we allready had with te mclaren, as an example of these i would say that we are having the same situation with the lamborghinis between the Gallardo and the Huracan, you have to compare the 650s with the huracan and the 458 with the gallardo (in this case all in there spyder versions. So i personally believe we will have to wait until the 488 gtb spyder and the huracan in the same version to make a proper comparation. Cheers :)

If they swapped badges then all the badge snobs would prefer the 650s

I think the "emotional" part comes more into play when you push the car to its limits. The 458 is better balanced and more playful on the limit though the 650S is faster and more powerfull. I prefer the interior of the 650S and I think the exterior as well actually (it has grown on me).

No supermodel ever lends me her 458Spider? How do you do that!

If I had to choose between these two, I'd go for the Ferrari. It's just that much more special than the McLaren. However, I don't like how EVERYTHING is on the steering wheel

Ferrari for me !! Nicer inside and much nicer sound ...It is like passion vs clinical ..

What's with the sore on the back of your neck

the 650s have to be compared with the 458 Speciale A, the 458 Spider was launched five years ago, but even so the 458 is sucked even more fun than the turbol 650s, and shame that Ferrari will also be turbo from that year

458 is always better :P

650s and 488 sound really similar

Interesting...

Overall ferrari for me!!

I prefer Tety over the 650S. Agree?

I prefer the 458's steering wheel but as a whole car I prefer the 650s

I'll never understand why people start arguing about stupid things below the video which showing 2 beautiful cars. Like:...get your grammar right before you start positing the comments etc...wth man!? Xeffx By the way, awesome cars Shmee150

Who drives the mclaren

458 has a more attractive cabin, but I'd still prefer the 650s

Same for me but i don't like ferrari's in general where i live it's pretty much you are rich you have a ferrari no one has something else and they are getting boring after a wile and make me feel like they are overhyped (also not a fan of the driving in the 458 but that may be since i only drove it for an hour) and compared to a 650s or a huracan they are pretty boring looking imo

301th like and 301th viewer damn

I think he should change the colour of his car the green I don't think shows to anger and power of it

Oh boy.. I would go for the 458 any day of the week, that thing is sexyy

who was driving the McLaren when you were in the 458

@ChaosmasterXX

9 жыл бұрын

probably the owner of the 458

@JackSwatman

9 жыл бұрын

Chaos, no the 458 owner was away modelling

@alanzyoutube

9 жыл бұрын

Ms Shmee probably.

@ChaosmasterXX

9 жыл бұрын

JackSwatman hm okay

Shmee likes long paddles

Looks? pehh!! Ferrari looks like a beautiful, Modern , trimmed n chisled sexy sports car, yes yes jajaja. But the Mclaren is a spaceship I want a spaceship

I think 458 sounds better specially while downshifting.

*doing

I`ll take the Mclaren any day!

Is it just me, or is it that some people are getting quite defensive over the Ferrari?

I'm first. thank you

ok, we get it, your 650S is better than 458..

Imagine if it was the p1 and the laferrari

@Shmee150

9 жыл бұрын

Nwar Kh I would love to do that!

@kraenk12

9 жыл бұрын

I'd take the 918 anyway

1.34 who drives the mclaren