I love how Lawrie goes from "this is stupid" to "i'm genuinely enjoying this!" in less than 5 minutes.. Thanks for showing us another unique piece of history!

@GooseWaffe

Жыл бұрын

always love when that happens

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

You're most welcome!

The episode where Lawrie finally went loco.. Well for a start anyway.. :D

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

😂 😂

Imagine doing this when the Southern Extension is complete. I know I'll have to come visit for that!

The Gravity Train is the ancestors of the runaway Troublesome Trucks

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Possibly part of the inspiration for them

I love a gravity train...been watching many videos of them at ffestiniog but never knew corris did it, glad to see you experience it

I wonder if the train would have bounced around as much if the cars were full of slate?

@henrikgiese6316

Жыл бұрын

Rails were probably more even when they were new, if nothing else.

@gs425

Жыл бұрын

Yes the weight would set up a side to side motion more intense than when empty

If for nothing else, this was worth watching for the sound of fear in Matt's voice at the beginning 😂

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

He was not convinced

I used to live in South Australia. There was a gravity tramway used for transporting grain from Hoyleton to Port Wakefield, then the third biggest port in the colony. Wagonloads of grain , with a few wagons of horses to pull the empty train 43 km back.

Thanks Lawrie! Near a family member they had two gravity railway lines for coal, now long gone, but you can see where they were, only had 1 accident! Glad you survived your run down the hill! 🙏🙏

@Lillstisse661

Жыл бұрын

Which type of accident was it? Did a wagon jump the track halfway down?

@eze8970

Жыл бұрын

@@Lillstisse661 Believe so, due to overloading I think.

Brilliant video..absolutely love it..I visit the corris as often as I can and always visit the model railway exhibition to support them..keep up the great work 😀

My Grandaddy had a similar ride in about 1936 when he was 15 as he and a couple friends rode an empty clay cart (without the mine's permission) down a long gradient in West Tennessee. He said the cart probably wasn't going 20 mph but that it felt like they were flying and they all jumped out, getting a bit bruised up but otherwise fine as the cart continued downgrade derailing itself on a curve. Almost no trace of the tracks exist today with the exception of some earthen grade built up in a section of woods where part of it was torn out to put a gravel road through it.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Oh the things we do when we're young 😂

I love the minor terror in matt's voice as he imagined all different runaway scenarios that could happen.... would make great highspeed footage though!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

I'd rather not do it though!

you want to try the one on the Ffestiniog Railway Lawrie. and I'm with you on the part of taking up drinking! . 🤣👍

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

I would love to. I think that would be great

I just stumbled on this channel and my god I love this.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy the rest of our content

there was one here at Amlwch to bring copper ore from the mine to the harbour , two tracks the one with laden trucks pulled the empty ones up through a system of pullys and ropes. By all accounts it worked well at least compared to the mule trains it replaced

@andrewreynolds4949

Жыл бұрын

Ah, a funicular railway

@highpath4776

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewreynolds4949 not quite, cable hauled inclines as opposed to funiculars generally having locomotives (though noted they can be on a balance method too)

I don't know how I missed this one! What a lovely railway the Corris is it has to be one of my favourites. Loved the ride down in the wagons quite a hair-raising thing to do especially when you think it's only a block of wood on one wheel that scrubs off the speed.

@kymvalleygardensdesign5350

Жыл бұрын

And a small one at that

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Tad alarming

Lmao I never realized how realistic the minecraft minecart sound effects were until like 6 minutes into this video

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂 😂

Nice wagons

And on a similar vein, Fortescue Mining has announced that their iron ore mine trains to the coast will use self recharging locomotives with the energy being used to haul the empty cars to the mine being generated by the loaded cars rolling down the rail line to the coast. All 400km of it.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's cool! The gravity train lives on!

Thank you for taking us on this little adventure... that is some lovely country side too. Now I wonder how he would handle riding a Marine Railway down it's incline? Only it's a 80 by 30 foot deck with towers to keep the boat in place as it's being hauled out of the water.

Woo Hoo what a great giggle of a Gravity Train with Lawrie & Matt. It makes a great video seeing train's like this being shared online.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you enjoyed it

Having enjoyed(?) the delights of a small gravity train you should head up to the Ffestiniog and try a much bigger one over a longer distance........

@highpath4776

Жыл бұрын

Did Tom Scott do that one ?

@allangibson8494

Жыл бұрын

Or Fortescue Mine’s in Western Australia (all 400km). Standard gauge trains, 2km long.

Now all you have to do is get it back up that hill again! 🤣

@petershaw1705

Жыл бұрын

How do they get it back up the hill I would like to know we have nothing like that in Australia it is very lnteresting

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

That's fine, just need to get a Loco!

Driving a train with no locomotive! Gravity train on the Corris Railway LGL Ep. 32 love louis shireley

That does look like great fun, and probably terrifying with a full load of slate.

The key difference between a rollacoster and a gravity train is your not in control I loved it

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

I didn't feel I was!

Another great video. I knew Ffestiniog had a gravity train in preservation, I didn’t realise Corris Railway had one as well.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It's super fun too!

@TimEaston

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm I would love to have a ride

8:40 - 8:43 Lawrie litrally sounds terrified going from how his voice tenses up / sounds tense

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It was.. Unnerving

lawrie get down to Porthmadog they do it with the trucks full of slate and about 10 trucks

this was released during my school day

Fantastic! In America they still do this sort of thing in large yards for shunting

i live in northern minnesota and we are known for iron mines and logging! from virginia mn to duluth mn there is a railway about 60 miles. this was set to be all down hill. it was said you could get on a hand cart. pump for not too long and then just sit back and ride it all the way to lake superior! the ore would be loaded on 1000foot great lake ships and iron shipped all over the world! also look up Mallet locomotive #229 in two harbors minnesota. might like seeing that big boy!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

That would have been an amazing sight to behold!

Looks like a fun ride.

@lmm

8 ай бұрын

It was!

very interesting review of the rolling stock on the Corris railway

Interesting how that Matt I presume was considered about the situation and when I worked for the railroad we would have to do this for some customers with full size cars 😁👍

In this video, Lawrie uses the Planet Earth Itself to drive a train.

@lloydpenfold486

Жыл бұрын

Clever bloke, that Newton!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Amazing to think that before him, there was no gravity 😂 Lawrie Goes Loco - the earth!

I learned of gravity railroads at a young age due to growing up near Carbondale, Pennsylvania, USA, which was where the cars were Delaware and Hudson Gravity Railroad cars were loaded with anthracite coal then hauled up and coasted down the Moosic Mountains to get to Honesdale and the end of the Delaware and Hudson Canal which would haul it 100+ miles into New York State to the Hudson River and on to New York City. My first wife grew up in Summit Hill, Pennsylvania, a block from the uphill end of the Switchback Gravity Railroad which, likewise, hauled coal a few miles to Mauch Chunk (today Jim Thorpe) for transfer to Lehigh Canal barges.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Oh really? Must have been quite the thing to see

More fun than the DLR ..... Next stop cold harbour laaaaane 😅

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

The DLR was quite the thing when it opened

Fantastic. The Welsh G WMU....... The Welsh Gravity Wagon Multiple Unit. We have a dragon and give a wonderful ride. And yes I'm Welsh

Auto Loco 😉 Lovely to see 👌

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Environmentally sound too!

This very much reminds me of riding down the mountain in Funchal, Madeira in a bamboo sled - on a public road...

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like an adventure and a half!

That was like a slower version of the mine cart scene from 'Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom.' :D That being said, one of my other favorite U.K KZreadrs is Martin Zero, and he has visited the sites of several old inclined planes. They were part of the pre-railway tramroads, and the loaded carts were sent down the inclined planes using gravity. After they were unloaded, the empty carts were pulled back up using steam engines and cables. A very simple idea, but very effective :)

wagons like "trigger's broom"

@lmm

3 ай бұрын

Lot of railway stuff is like that

On the main line there used to be hump shunting where the wagons were pushed uncoupled over a hump and the loose wagons would roll into the specially controlled yards with a brake man on hand to stop the wagons. Also slip coaches used that were technically be carriage that was released from the train and stopped in the station without the Express train stopping.

@OntarioTrafficMan

Жыл бұрын

Hunp yards are still used in Canada. I grew up near MacMillan yard which is an enormous facility. The braking is done automatically nowadays, no risky jumping on and off moving freight wagons.

What about those pelton wheels at the second station? Enquiring minds!

Train =lawrie train=gravity train

Ah, sweet Terrafirma!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Excatly!

Imagine what it was like in the early days of Talyllyn preservation when you could just do this as a random picnicking party. If the lawyers could swing the wavers needed, that would be a blast to bring back.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It can be done safely, as shown here.

And I just wanted to see how you were going to get your train back up.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

In a future video!

Need to do the Ffestiniog Gravity train!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Yes I really do

Hello Lorry. Finally another loco video! I've seen some video about gravity railway few years ago. Long train, in first wagon was signalist, who was giving signals how many breaks should be applied. Trickiest part was to come down in such speed, that you can stop at the end of platform. But don't remember name of video, even railway. Was it this one?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Most likely the Ffestiniog I'd have thought

7m 16s If my high school physics teacher was correct, even 100 tons of slate would make no difference to the speed. Gravity accelerates the mass, regardless of the mass. Now 100 tons of slate would increase your momentum ( m * v) but not your speed. Of course, minor inefficiencies come into play, but you can test this out with a 36" length of PECO OO-scale track and a single wagon on a 10-degree incline. Time it without a load of wet clay, and with a load of wet clay. Time it at different inclines (up to about 70 degrees). Repeat with two wagons, ten wagons (OK you'd need TWO yards of track!). Cheers, Chris

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

I did mean the extra mass hurtling down like an unstoppable force

How do they get the train back to the start ? Do u have to push it back up the hill ?

@andrewreynolds4949

Жыл бұрын

Probably they use a locomotive… I don’t think they use horses these days

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

With a locomotive!

Episode 30: Loco pulls train Episode 31: Loco IS the train Episode 32: Loco? Who needs a loco?

@allangibson8494

Жыл бұрын

Fortescue Mines - locomotive has no engine (just batteries with no charger required (dynamic braking actually generates excess power)).

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Where can I go next?

@Living_Life_RN

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm It’s just you, running along the trackbed of a heritage railway, making general growling or chuffing noises, while you complain about how the ride is rough and that the vibrations are making your legs ache.

Did anybody else see the shadow to look like a narrow gauge diesel 7minutes 33 seconds

And now push back up the Hill

We certainly don't operate like that in the USA I'd say that. Sound interesting however I Kinda want a locomotive attached just in case.

@lmm

3 ай бұрын

In case of what?

No mention of how they get it back up then?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

With a locomotive

Am I right between them the Slate Quarry AND the Corris Railway NEVER made a profit (at least not enough to pay back capital invested),

Hello Laurie I met you on the Alan keef open day 2022 how are you doing mate

I'd love to see a review of a horse-drawn train! That counts as a "locomotive" right?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

That might be fun

I believe a train with no locomotive is called a MU.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

A locomotive doesn't make a train. A train can sit quite happily without a locomotive, and very much remains a train.

Need a standard gauge one for 1 in 49 on NYMR lol

how do you get it back up the hill?

@terrier_productions

Жыл бұрын

When these were in service, either a horse or a locomotive would pull the empties back to the top if the hill

GRAVITY TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS. Wish we had one!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

The bank is certainly steep enough!

@FoxfieldRailwayOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm *plans insane ticket option*

I'd do that with while having a few pints of beer without a brake lever to pull, just to have a good time WooooHoooo! Gotta live life a little!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Without the brake you may have some issues. No alcohol on the railways either!

How long ago did you film this because the traversa isn’t at Corris in the video

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

A while back

I would be scared tbh

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It's good fun!

So how does it go back up?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

With a locomotive

So if Gravity goes down, how do you get back up ?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

With a locomotive!

@highpath4776

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm Well the Loco would bring the train back, but how do you bring back gravity (will have to check your script as to how the words actually came out)

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

@@highpath4776 oh that's Newton's job

@highpath4776

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm Or Einstein ?

Whose drone was pacing the train at around 10mins in?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Matt's, but the footage got corrupted sadly

Missed opportunity to call it "Lawrie Goes Loco-less"... but still brilliant as always! EDIT: Never mind, it _was_ called that. Disregard this comment.

@dancedecker

Жыл бұрын

I thought it did, right at the beginning about forty seconds in, written on the "Totem Titles" ?

@TotoDG

Жыл бұрын

@@dancedecker. Noted!

@dancedecker

Жыл бұрын

@@TotoDG No problem. Cheers

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking, did I muck something up in the edit 😂

@TotoDG

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm. I just looked at the title, and that was just the same as usual. Turns out I'm just an idiot. :/

So the operator sits in the car with the slate?

@highpath4776

Жыл бұрын

Most were smaller wagons and the brake operator/s would sit atop the slates

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much

Anyone know what that signal is for? It's at 90 degrees to the track! Does it rotate into position? Is it meant to signal people at the top of the hill somehow?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It's there to show the public on the road that there is a railway there

This is when you flip the car into Neutral and turn the engine off to save fuel going down hill. Hoping the brakes work at the traffic lights

@deltavee2

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe just let the regen braking pump up the batteries some, free of cost.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Similar yes, I think there are some railways looking at using the principle of charging batteries on the way down

What happened to the drone footage?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It became corrupted

did the railway actually run Gravity trains back in the day or is this just a heritage thing?

@benbrotherwood9128

Жыл бұрын

Started of as Gravity down and horse hauled back up for the empties. Loco operation came later and even at the end of the railways life several of the quarries operated exclusively gravity working down to meet the railway still.

@andrewreynolds4949

Жыл бұрын

It was quite a widespread practice in the early days

@highpath4776

Жыл бұрын

@@benbrotherwood9128 I suppose keeping the locomotive in downhill gave better braking opportunities

Corris

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How id Matt like it?

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

"it was an experience"

Could do with ten ton behind it to be fair XD

Are you and Matt still you friends after that!?😂

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Just about!

I truly wish I could actually help at a heritage railway. But since I'm Dutch there isn't a rather lot I could go to, and what we have is far away from where I live. Then again, we preserved so much less then you Brits have, its truly a shame.

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Ah that's a shame. There are places in the UK like the Talyllyn who have oversees volunteers, who stay for a week or so. Perhaps some of the places in your country have overnight accommodation?

At 7:07 you suggest the gravity train would run faster if full of slate, but is that really the case? Gravity acts on objects of different mass, all else being equal, the same such that they fall at the same speed. Also, if the bearings are a bit tired, the extra weight of loaded wagons on the axles could act as a form of brake. I don’t think the speeds reached mean air resistance is a relevant factor.

@highpath4776

Жыл бұрын

There has been the fatal problem of the unintentional gravity trains - the runaways, the Croydon Tramlink one , where there was no system of automatically applied braking being totally dependent on manual driving, and the unbraked engineering unit on the London Underground, which suffered an engine failure which mean no compression for brake application - there being no failsafe spring loaded brakes that were satisfactory

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It's not faster, it's just harder to stop.

Aren't gravity trains fuuun...