This drill is straight money. Your whole library is fantastic! Well done Sir. 👏
@bernardyip5807
Жыл бұрын
😊
@LD-cf7lw Жыл бұрын
Dude, you got some of the best drills on the internet! Thanks for sharing!
@tonebassin2571 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan my dude. These short clips are awesome. Keep them coming.
@vinestreet403111 ай бұрын
I think it will depend on the grip. If you have a strong grip you don’t want to do what you’re saying.
@tedduggan4887 Жыл бұрын
Works GREAT for me…I have trouble trying to figure out what to do with my hands at impact and this makes it a simple swing thought…point thumb to target 👍
@pukkapeter Жыл бұрын
The 1st bent arm position is flawless hip position, the 2nd flippy one is no hips cleared. To play well consistently there is one major key and that is hitting the ball with the turn, not with the hands. You can have a good round when it's handsy, but you'll never be consistent
@Lucenta Жыл бұрын
This drill definitely helped me. I checked the results out on video.
@2simpleadjustments Жыл бұрын
nice tip...it helped with my golfers right elbow to get the club through better
@thetruthaboutthegolfswing Жыл бұрын
The pointing to the left begins in the early downswing when you should lower your arms and throw the club head to the right (not left). That momentum carries through to cause the thumbs to point left.
@josephsorci2375 Жыл бұрын
Totally improves my accuracy too.
@jorgehabib8661 Жыл бұрын
Thank you jonathan.
@johno-gb7ci Жыл бұрын
I've been working on a more fred couples release.. less clubface rotation through impact. My Divots are now becoming more square at front and back. I'm hitting it straighter..
@dementus420 Жыл бұрын
If I could've only had this lesson back when I was first learning.
@createdbyorellana5069 Жыл бұрын
That motion happens right after you hit the ball not before, if you do it right at the impact, you will get a big hook
@609_ Жыл бұрын
Lead side, trail side. We the left handed thank you.
@bobrankin7507 Жыл бұрын
That helps. I feel that on a unexpected slice.
@edwardbrown6245 Жыл бұрын
That a great tip..working with this at the range ..and it works very well..thanks
@B.Rights Жыл бұрын
I am trying to do the exact opposite of this. This is overly timing reliant snap hook city flipping.
@beammeupscottsp7952
Жыл бұрын
Lmao not for us, hook trend ain't it. Took years to come back from this, wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
@LabradoodleTofuBoy Жыл бұрын
Excellent tips! So true & practical
@user-zu8qh2mb9f Жыл бұрын
This action of the wrist and arms is supposed to happen naturally, it’s the effect that body rotation and release of the club head has. It’s not supposed to be a conscious action.
@PatrickKelleyGolf Жыл бұрын
Love this exercise!
@BillGrates1 Жыл бұрын
I feel a snap hook coming
@I_need_an_oil_change
Жыл бұрын
Aim way right
@frankhalstead5214
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Right hand crossing over left at impact is a sure fire way for me to hit 30 yard hooks all day! My lead hand better be knuckles down at impact and my hip rotation better be closing that club face or I’ve got a 2 way miss going all day long!
@ruchikornnakbua6394 Жыл бұрын
Good drill
@TheMeeche06 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@raymondleemanpaper11 ай бұрын
It feels counterintuitive and many are commenting it will produce a hook. No, it doesn't. This drill helps me hit it longer and much much straighter. In fact, this is the single most important lesson you can teach. Thanks Jonathan.
@taweechokpimonjinda277 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan, are you still close to LA?
@rockiemountains55711 ай бұрын
Thank you sir
@eliteg4l3xy30 Жыл бұрын
This will help with drawing your irons, especially with a strong grip, but I developed a nasty duck hook from turning my wrist too much
@neil5307 Жыл бұрын
Very good 👍
@krypttoenight9971 Жыл бұрын
Same thing 🐅 said!
@feddydjafar944725 күн бұрын
This is money! My a ha! Moment
@vutruongnewzealandofficial5664 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Ja8888 Жыл бұрын
Been practicing this, it has eliminated my left arm chicken wing! On the down side, it has really hurt my left wrist, is there something you can do to make sure you don't break your wrist???
@redhed9776 Жыл бұрын
you instruction was for a roll release, sans Mickleson. your 1st display was a stable release, sans Sergio. there are 2 types of releases, whichever works for you is the one you should use.
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
Yup like there’s only 1 way to hit a golf ball
@freshprinceofsolair
Жыл бұрын
One helps you close the face the other makes most amateurs slice.
@lozza2272
Жыл бұрын
Agree, there isn't just one golf swing for everybody. I don't think the roll necessarily gives you more distance either. The impact with the ball is only a fraction of a second.
@ClaroCapilla
Жыл бұрын
"Sans?" did you mean, "ala"?
@discr1709
Жыл бұрын
“Sans” is French for “without.”
@Philip_koehler Жыл бұрын
Do you use this for your Driver also?
@jfc345 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@fuzzybanana9128 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy!!! I see a whole lotta ppl snap hooking after this one. How bout this instead. Having a proper swing from the inside will produce wrist rotation naturally. If your wrists are not rotating automatically then you are purposely holding open for a fade or you swing from the outside.
@MillerLite6970
Жыл бұрын
Yes, instant hook if I do that
@OrvinReyes
Жыл бұрын
No, this is most helpful for golfers with the chicken wing. It's called supination. If that's not your issue then this isn't for you and you can move along
@dalvid26
Жыл бұрын
I am exactly this
@thethinker5462 Жыл бұрын
Dude telling amateurs to do that and they will hook the freakin ball every single time.
@peteruwatch2970 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan, thanks. What if you want to hit a fade? What changes?
@MrBikedrummer
Жыл бұрын
Pretend there's water on the right that you definitely are afraid of... The fade will produce itself looking to get wet.
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
@@MrBikedrummer Sir, your comment is what I yearn for when I scour the KZreads for enlightenment and entertainment. Thanks for the genuine laugh.😄
@MrBikedrummer
Жыл бұрын
@@glenj.taylor2938 Thanks for the approval. I was hoping it would bring a chuckle.
@Tall-Cool-Drink Жыл бұрын
if your grip is "relaxed" this should happen naturally.
@Bulldog5086 Жыл бұрын
So I've always had an issue with flipping and chicken wing and tried using this tip and something has happened to my swing. I either hit it super thin which I never used to do or if I make contact it's a huge slice. I actually feel like I might lose the club despite having the same grip. Any idea what I'm misinterpreting from your video? But great stuff love your videos
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
This clip just describes the reality of what happens with the wrists and arms in the follow through but I would need to see your swing to know what your specific issues are. You can send me swings via my Skillest account. The link is on my Instagram @jonathankmoss
@seniorswing8441 Жыл бұрын
Much different from the 90-90-90 drill!
@drewsibleyloans Жыл бұрын
Great tip. Common mistake. I am guilty of this too.
@jericho574 Жыл бұрын
Lol the release that’s known to need to most amount of timing
@petersgolfacademy4140 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@kyleevans2448 Жыл бұрын
Literally searched a video to stop doing this hahaha 😂
@MyBATMAN000 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan... great lesson but guess what happened to me?
@MyBATMAN000
Жыл бұрын
I followed the entire lesson but when i got down to the FLLWTHRU..my right hand turned my thumb over...snapped my thumb joint and spained my thumb. I now cannot golf for at least a month until i get that thumb braće off...WTF Z with that move!!!!@
@curlsx Жыл бұрын
Does this not encourage a hook? or a draw at the very least?
@DjHandzsolo1973 Жыл бұрын
I struggle with this J. It relies on timing and gimmicks. proper swing fundamentals with forward shaft lean fixes most things. at least for me. Simple and repeatable is better.
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
This video addresses a specific issue post impact. My demonstration was exaggerated to show people the movement that is involved. If a player demonstrates the incorrect pose that I show in the video and has the perception of not having ANY amount of pronation or supination in their arms then learning to add those movements in will allow them to extend their arms.
@jabyers Жыл бұрын
Wrong title? As you are flipping your wrists, but the title says how to stop it
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
Flipping your wrists is a result of an early release and will generally produce high-spinny shots. What he's demostrating is a ROLL of the wrists, not flipping. It's how true clubhead speed is generated. A lot of instruction muttles "feel" with "real." I don't know enough which category this falls into but is likely a combo of the two.
@ev_nasty Жыл бұрын
Is your trail arm not supposed to be bent in thre follow through?
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Definitely not…
@GolfTesla11 ай бұрын
many golf teaching pros will not agree with that. certainly not those that favour the "square to square" method it seems
@fradaja Жыл бұрын
Zack Johnson left the chat
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Loooooool Zach Johnson still has supination and pronation in his forearms. He does not leave his trail hand under his lead hand the entire follow through. go watch his face on view swing in slow motion. He probably left the chat because so many people in the comments are missing the point.
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf no he holds it off , very pronounced on his wedges , which is his strong suit , I can find countless videos highlighting this loooooool
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf Listen son , you’ve been playing the game like 10 minutes , which is why you’re very narrow and believe there’s only 1 way to hit a golf ball , it’s endless , centred , swaying , heel Lifting, t&s, ott, inside outside , that’s even before release, which is another topic of debate , Zach holds the face down the line , there are many many players who do this as an anti hook technique , if you want to argue Son, argue with this , kzread.info/dash/bejne/mGqE3LKNh6qcXbw.html
@andimeilisadjabir60945 ай бұрын
Isnt it dangerous coz we can flip it and make a hook
@cravenmoorehead7099 Жыл бұрын
GREAT video
@petertulich7842 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan, what if you want to hit a fade? Would you still want the same motion or do you change it for a fade?
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
He just left the chat
@khemsreyna104 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@GetonPar Жыл бұрын
Great tip...I need to try this
@tonyy168 Жыл бұрын
This promotes flipping.
@I_need_an_oil_change
Жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t.
@monortues
Жыл бұрын
Timing can be tricky. I do not know when to flip.
@aztec1040
Жыл бұрын
This promotes clubhead speed, a full release, and most golfers best chance at puring irons
@jamespark3448
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you need to turn over your hands for a proper shot. If you keep it open you lost distance and it’ll likely stay right.
@corygetchell849
Жыл бұрын
@@aztec1040 I was just going to ask what this does, thank you sir
@TransformerPackagingSystems Жыл бұрын
Snap hook engage
@carloangelo62 ай бұрын
Isn’t this the “handsy” behavior that a lot of other coaches are trying to fix?
@garethhillard9923 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t thus rolling which is also not good?
@Kidgatorg11 ай бұрын
Same drill to hit a stinger?
@andrewbredwell1208 Жыл бұрын
Tom Saguto!
@BrianFosterdrummer11 ай бұрын
To much to think about
@leogoku13 Жыл бұрын
Goes against the description. So you want them to flip their wrists? I don't get it
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I address a specific issue post impact. I am speaking about the importance of pronation and supination in the forearms that some players forget about in the follow through. If players have zero amount of pronation and supination then it can hinder a players ability to extend the arms and can lead to a player demonstrating too much extension in the lead wrist, lack of speed and a bent lead arm.
@JT-LV Жыл бұрын
Flipping is what’s killing me. Snap hooks.
@oldprogolf7292 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Debunking the ludicrous idea so many pros teach that you can hold the club face square through, and after, impact. Try to do that by rotating fast after impact and you will end up like poor Will Zalatoris. And me 40 years ago.
@16treeguy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you slide your hips towards the target violently like wz. If you rotate your thoracic spine instead of trying to do it with your lumbar you'll never have any pain. It's in the ribcage and instead of lunging the sacrum actually moves back.
@IIrandhandleII Жыл бұрын
This is a roll instead of a flip?
@The559Jeff Жыл бұрын
I can see Lee Trevino shaking his head…no
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Lee Trevino also has supination and pronation in the forearms through impact lol please show me a video of his swing where he does not demonstrate this. the movement in this video is exaggerated
@BeefandEggs10 ай бұрын
What are you hiding with the blur?
@shanethomas2596 Жыл бұрын
Your club face stays in contact with the ball a fraction of a second. Approximately 3/4 of an inch of the ball flight. Nothing you do after you strike the ball affects your ball flight. Getting the club face straight at impact by far outweighs anything else you can do so do whatever you need to do to keep the club face square it impact. Don't sacrifice accuracy chasing extra yardage that can be made up with a different club selection. Unless you're losing a lot of club head speed by not releasing reasonably on time, a square release is perfectly fine and not a *mistake"
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree…the follow through is evidence of what you are doing in the downswing and how efficiently you are swinging the club and moving your weight, body, etc…also by changing your follow through you will directly influence your downswing. If the follow through doesn’t matter then why have a follow through at all. You’re suggesting you just stop the entire swing at the moment of impact
@jeffevans5741 Жыл бұрын
Can you coach me😮
@sigmagolfers Жыл бұрын
How do you ensure the face is square at the right time when doing this?
@Cecil-jc2xy
Жыл бұрын
Try opening the club face so that during the swing the club face closes from an open face to a square face
@333pg333 Жыл бұрын
How is what you're saying many of your students do is flipping? If they make that action they're definitely not flipping. Whereas what you're suggesting is closer to flipping. I'm not even saying certain aspects of flipping is wrong either.
@fernandobusso2539 Жыл бұрын
Ohh my God, are tou really a golf teacher?
@XRPXLM Жыл бұрын
This is why I slice my drives I should try this
@Petergalvan Жыл бұрын
Moe Norman would laugh at this video
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Lol if you watch Moe Norman’s swing you can clearly see he also does this
@charleswood35755 ай бұрын
I fell like this is teaching people HOW to flip the wrists.. this release requires timing that's extremely hars to repeat
@TIGRWOODS Жыл бұрын
Tell DJ or anyone with a strong grip/closed clubface to to this and it’s going left of left.
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you so maybe they shouldn’t watch this but DJ still has pronation and supination just more delayed than most
@duncanstout4702 Жыл бұрын
How to stop flipping by flipping
@user-sl7zn6gw9n Жыл бұрын
重點是“punch"。
@emac95 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of this release for straight ball flight
@deebee7607 Жыл бұрын
impossible.. do it in a full swing and video your hands thru impact, you will see that you did not do it.. just feeling it. This move alone will tremendously slow down the swing speed because doing so generated two swing plane of clubhead.
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I think you have the ideas mixed up. Watch every player though impact in slow motion everyone has supination and pronation in the forearms this is a crucial movement for producing speed
@deebee7607
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf well... supination is a must to hit thr ball above the 1st grove. it is impossible to supinate without a sound grip..stance..backswing.. AND downswing from inside. That's when supination sets itself along with club path. got it? All these piece meal coaching never works.. It is a coordinated swing from start to finish.. start wrong and supinate.. goodluck.
@malfor007 Жыл бұрын
He is not showing that you should continue rotating through impact and not flick over the wrists . It is a trendy move but not necessary.
@pukkapeter Жыл бұрын
No this isn't good. Agreed you don't want right hand underneath, but this looks like telling people to flip it
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
A flip is defined as too much extension in the lead wrist and flexion in the trail wrist. These players who do this too excessively also do not demonstrate enough supination and pronation in the forearms which will hinder their ability to produce speed and straighten out their arms. I am not advocating a “flip” but a feel or sensation that allows these players to implement more of this movement
@pukkapeter
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf I guess it comes down to where in the swing and release it's occurring. I'll give it some thought. I'm a scratch golfer btw and a big hitter and it's my usual bad shot, the right arm rolls and delofts me a low hook
@frozentundra7446 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, to prevent flipping you purposely flip your wrist?
@vanstromi7810 Жыл бұрын
Except when I do this, it snap hooks to the left
@tranquilized13
Жыл бұрын
Then your club is getting ahead of your hands.
@fwhites
Жыл бұрын
@@tranquilized13 Or the release is happening too soon. The release happens just AFTER impact.
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
As a whole, this is tough to time correctly and often does lead to inconsistent shots. However, this will generate clubhead speed like nothing else as it's the final pivot point of the swing. Given a proper swing arc, the faster the head of club is traveling when it impacts the ball, the father it goes... into the houses, water, or sometimes OB.😄
@TICKETDROPPER1984 Жыл бұрын
“Drill to stop flipping your wrist”… proceeds to then flip wrist in drill lol
@RickyLopez123
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that too. Never liked the wrist flip swing.
@joshuawhittemore1283
Жыл бұрын
If one keeps their head down and behind the ball all the way through impact, one will see that their wrists naturally release without artificial movements.
@TICKETDROPPER1984
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuawhittemore1283 You are absolutely right
@troll707
Жыл бұрын
That isn't flipping the wrists lmao.
@nokia5359
Жыл бұрын
@@troll707 👍
@DirkPiddlemark Жыл бұрын
Uh that is the flip
@rjlovell111 ай бұрын
Isn’t this encouraging you to flip your wrists? Opposite of the title 😊
@sonnycaycayon6103
8 ай бұрын
No, you’re rotating your left wrist, not breaking or flipping it, big difference
@alexandermayer2026 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t the action you are demonstrating a flip? I love your stuff. The timing of the “thumb point” reversal at speed seems a timing nightmare and a total disconnection from the core. If the impact bag drill has any merit, it totally eliminates the sense of flipping the thumb, doesn’t it? I am sure the misunderstand is mine. As a tennis coach, this time hand movement would be a total disaster. How far can you fit a five with no body move and using just the thumb point reversal? It would seem this full, if it could be timed, would give you 80+% of your distance.
@sonnycaycayon6103
8 ай бұрын
Watch it closely, your left thumb should face the target, flipping it makes you thumb point up
@alexandermayer2026
8 ай бұрын
@@sonnycaycayon6103 thanks. Very cool.
@phillipberggren8 ай бұрын
That's a drill to start flipping. Is this a joke? 😂
@christopherwilson7004 Жыл бұрын
But why so much flipping on the clubface?
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
my demonstration is slightly exaggerated to give people a visual of me adding supination and pronation to my forearms through impact instead of adding too much lead wrist extension.
@christopherwilson7004
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf usually for me that would cause me more extension then bowling. For me keeping the club face pointing down the target line longer promotes more accuracy.
@jerrypaquin449 Жыл бұрын
Looks like your flipping the club. I’m being taught to not do that?
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
My movement was exaggerated and I talk about a certain movement that addresses a specific issue that I mention in the video
@sigmagolfers
Жыл бұрын
That’s whats confusing to me……some people say not to do this….then u see videos like this to say the contrary.
@jonathanbrown4453 Жыл бұрын
Flipping the club .. I don't think
@coolme65310 ай бұрын
This is very hard to time it. Not good at all
@jongaskell66 Жыл бұрын
Nope!
@justapedn1 Жыл бұрын
That’s not the first “first big mistake I see…” I just saw another video you made in the same uniform that had a different tip. Can’t have two firsts!
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This drill is straight money. Your whole library is fantastic! Well done Sir. 👏
@bernardyip5807
Жыл бұрын
😊
Dude, you got some of the best drills on the internet! Thanks for sharing!
Jonathan my dude. These short clips are awesome. Keep them coming.
I think it will depend on the grip. If you have a strong grip you don’t want to do what you’re saying.
Works GREAT for me…I have trouble trying to figure out what to do with my hands at impact and this makes it a simple swing thought…point thumb to target 👍
The 1st bent arm position is flawless hip position, the 2nd flippy one is no hips cleared. To play well consistently there is one major key and that is hitting the ball with the turn, not with the hands. You can have a good round when it's handsy, but you'll never be consistent
This drill definitely helped me. I checked the results out on video.
nice tip...it helped with my golfers right elbow to get the club through better
The pointing to the left begins in the early downswing when you should lower your arms and throw the club head to the right (not left). That momentum carries through to cause the thumbs to point left.
Totally improves my accuracy too.
Thank you jonathan.
I've been working on a more fred couples release.. less clubface rotation through impact. My Divots are now becoming more square at front and back. I'm hitting it straighter..
If I could've only had this lesson back when I was first learning.
That motion happens right after you hit the ball not before, if you do it right at the impact, you will get a big hook
Lead side, trail side. We the left handed thank you.
That helps. I feel that on a unexpected slice.
That a great tip..working with this at the range ..and it works very well..thanks
I am trying to do the exact opposite of this. This is overly timing reliant snap hook city flipping.
@beammeupscottsp7952
Жыл бұрын
Lmao not for us, hook trend ain't it. Took years to come back from this, wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Excellent tips! So true & practical
This action of the wrist and arms is supposed to happen naturally, it’s the effect that body rotation and release of the club head has. It’s not supposed to be a conscious action.
Love this exercise!
I feel a snap hook coming
@I_need_an_oil_change
Жыл бұрын
Aim way right
@frankhalstead5214
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Right hand crossing over left at impact is a sure fire way for me to hit 30 yard hooks all day! My lead hand better be knuckles down at impact and my hip rotation better be closing that club face or I’ve got a 2 way miss going all day long!
Good drill
Thanks!
It feels counterintuitive and many are commenting it will produce a hook. No, it doesn't. This drill helps me hit it longer and much much straighter. In fact, this is the single most important lesson you can teach. Thanks Jonathan.
Hi Jonathan, are you still close to LA?
Thank you sir
This will help with drawing your irons, especially with a strong grip, but I developed a nasty duck hook from turning my wrist too much
Very good 👍
Same thing 🐅 said!
This is money! My a ha! Moment
Thanks
Been practicing this, it has eliminated my left arm chicken wing! On the down side, it has really hurt my left wrist, is there something you can do to make sure you don't break your wrist???
you instruction was for a roll release, sans Mickleson. your 1st display was a stable release, sans Sergio. there are 2 types of releases, whichever works for you is the one you should use.
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
Yup like there’s only 1 way to hit a golf ball
@freshprinceofsolair
Жыл бұрын
One helps you close the face the other makes most amateurs slice.
@lozza2272
Жыл бұрын
Agree, there isn't just one golf swing for everybody. I don't think the roll necessarily gives you more distance either. The impact with the ball is only a fraction of a second.
@ClaroCapilla
Жыл бұрын
"Sans?" did you mean, "ala"?
@discr1709
Жыл бұрын
“Sans” is French for “without.”
Do you use this for your Driver also?
Brilliant
Oh boy!!! I see a whole lotta ppl snap hooking after this one. How bout this instead. Having a proper swing from the inside will produce wrist rotation naturally. If your wrists are not rotating automatically then you are purposely holding open for a fade or you swing from the outside.
@MillerLite6970
Жыл бұрын
Yes, instant hook if I do that
@OrvinReyes
Жыл бұрын
No, this is most helpful for golfers with the chicken wing. It's called supination. If that's not your issue then this isn't for you and you can move along
@dalvid26
Жыл бұрын
I am exactly this
Dude telling amateurs to do that and they will hook the freakin ball every single time.
Jonathan, thanks. What if you want to hit a fade? What changes?
@MrBikedrummer
Жыл бұрын
Pretend there's water on the right that you definitely are afraid of... The fade will produce itself looking to get wet.
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
@@MrBikedrummer Sir, your comment is what I yearn for when I scour the KZreads for enlightenment and entertainment. Thanks for the genuine laugh.😄
@MrBikedrummer
Жыл бұрын
@@glenj.taylor2938 Thanks for the approval. I was hoping it would bring a chuckle.
if your grip is "relaxed" this should happen naturally.
So I've always had an issue with flipping and chicken wing and tried using this tip and something has happened to my swing. I either hit it super thin which I never used to do or if I make contact it's a huge slice. I actually feel like I might lose the club despite having the same grip. Any idea what I'm misinterpreting from your video? But great stuff love your videos
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
This clip just describes the reality of what happens with the wrists and arms in the follow through but I would need to see your swing to know what your specific issues are. You can send me swings via my Skillest account. The link is on my Instagram @jonathankmoss
Much different from the 90-90-90 drill!
Great tip. Common mistake. I am guilty of this too.
Lol the release that’s known to need to most amount of timing
Exactly
Literally searched a video to stop doing this hahaha 😂
Jonathan... great lesson but guess what happened to me?
@MyBATMAN000
Жыл бұрын
I followed the entire lesson but when i got down to the FLLWTHRU..my right hand turned my thumb over...snapped my thumb joint and spained my thumb. I now cannot golf for at least a month until i get that thumb braće off...WTF Z with that move!!!!@
Does this not encourage a hook? or a draw at the very least?
I struggle with this J. It relies on timing and gimmicks. proper swing fundamentals with forward shaft lean fixes most things. at least for me. Simple and repeatable is better.
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
This video addresses a specific issue post impact. My demonstration was exaggerated to show people the movement that is involved. If a player demonstrates the incorrect pose that I show in the video and has the perception of not having ANY amount of pronation or supination in their arms then learning to add those movements in will allow them to extend their arms.
Wrong title? As you are flipping your wrists, but the title says how to stop it
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
Flipping your wrists is a result of an early release and will generally produce high-spinny shots. What he's demostrating is a ROLL of the wrists, not flipping. It's how true clubhead speed is generated. A lot of instruction muttles "feel" with "real." I don't know enough which category this falls into but is likely a combo of the two.
Is your trail arm not supposed to be bent in thre follow through?
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Definitely not…
many golf teaching pros will not agree with that. certainly not those that favour the "square to square" method it seems
Zack Johnson left the chat
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Loooooool Zach Johnson still has supination and pronation in his forearms. He does not leave his trail hand under his lead hand the entire follow through. go watch his face on view swing in slow motion. He probably left the chat because so many people in the comments are missing the point.
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf no he holds it off , very pronounced on his wedges , which is his strong suit , I can find countless videos highlighting this loooooool
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf Listen son , you’ve been playing the game like 10 minutes , which is why you’re very narrow and believe there’s only 1 way to hit a golf ball , it’s endless , centred , swaying , heel Lifting, t&s, ott, inside outside , that’s even before release, which is another topic of debate , Zach holds the face down the line , there are many many players who do this as an anti hook technique , if you want to argue Son, argue with this , kzread.info/dash/bejne/mGqE3LKNh6qcXbw.html
Isnt it dangerous coz we can flip it and make a hook
GREAT video
Jonathan, what if you want to hit a fade? Would you still want the same motion or do you change it for a fade?
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
He just left the chat
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Great tip...I need to try this
This promotes flipping.
@I_need_an_oil_change
Жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t.
@monortues
Жыл бұрын
Timing can be tricky. I do not know when to flip.
@aztec1040
Жыл бұрын
This promotes clubhead speed, a full release, and most golfers best chance at puring irons
@jamespark3448
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you need to turn over your hands for a proper shot. If you keep it open you lost distance and it’ll likely stay right.
@corygetchell849
Жыл бұрын
@@aztec1040 I was just going to ask what this does, thank you sir
Snap hook engage
Isn’t this the “handsy” behavior that a lot of other coaches are trying to fix?
Isn’t thus rolling which is also not good?
Same drill to hit a stinger?
Tom Saguto!
To much to think about
Goes against the description. So you want them to flip their wrists? I don't get it
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I address a specific issue post impact. I am speaking about the importance of pronation and supination in the forearms that some players forget about in the follow through. If players have zero amount of pronation and supination then it can hinder a players ability to extend the arms and can lead to a player demonstrating too much extension in the lead wrist, lack of speed and a bent lead arm.
Flipping is what’s killing me. Snap hooks.
Excellent. Debunking the ludicrous idea so many pros teach that you can hold the club face square through, and after, impact. Try to do that by rotating fast after impact and you will end up like poor Will Zalatoris. And me 40 years ago.
@16treeguy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you slide your hips towards the target violently like wz. If you rotate your thoracic spine instead of trying to do it with your lumbar you'll never have any pain. It's in the ribcage and instead of lunging the sacrum actually moves back.
This is a roll instead of a flip?
I can see Lee Trevino shaking his head…no
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Lee Trevino also has supination and pronation in the forearms through impact lol please show me a video of his swing where he does not demonstrate this. the movement in this video is exaggerated
What are you hiding with the blur?
Your club face stays in contact with the ball a fraction of a second. Approximately 3/4 of an inch of the ball flight. Nothing you do after you strike the ball affects your ball flight. Getting the club face straight at impact by far outweighs anything else you can do so do whatever you need to do to keep the club face square it impact. Don't sacrifice accuracy chasing extra yardage that can be made up with a different club selection. Unless you're losing a lot of club head speed by not releasing reasonably on time, a square release is perfectly fine and not a *mistake"
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree…the follow through is evidence of what you are doing in the downswing and how efficiently you are swinging the club and moving your weight, body, etc…also by changing your follow through you will directly influence your downswing. If the follow through doesn’t matter then why have a follow through at all. You’re suggesting you just stop the entire swing at the moment of impact
Can you coach me😮
How do you ensure the face is square at the right time when doing this?
@Cecil-jc2xy
Жыл бұрын
Try opening the club face so that during the swing the club face closes from an open face to a square face
How is what you're saying many of your students do is flipping? If they make that action they're definitely not flipping. Whereas what you're suggesting is closer to flipping. I'm not even saying certain aspects of flipping is wrong either.
Ohh my God, are tou really a golf teacher?
This is why I slice my drives I should try this
Moe Norman would laugh at this video
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
Lol if you watch Moe Norman’s swing you can clearly see he also does this
I fell like this is teaching people HOW to flip the wrists.. this release requires timing that's extremely hars to repeat
Tell DJ or anyone with a strong grip/closed clubface to to this and it’s going left of left.
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you so maybe they shouldn’t watch this but DJ still has pronation and supination just more delayed than most
How to stop flipping by flipping
重點是“punch"。
Not a fan of this release for straight ball flight
impossible.. do it in a full swing and video your hands thru impact, you will see that you did not do it.. just feeling it. This move alone will tremendously slow down the swing speed because doing so generated two swing plane of clubhead.
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
I think you have the ideas mixed up. Watch every player though impact in slow motion everyone has supination and pronation in the forearms this is a crucial movement for producing speed
@deebee7607
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf well... supination is a must to hit thr ball above the 1st grove. it is impossible to supinate without a sound grip..stance..backswing.. AND downswing from inside. That's when supination sets itself along with club path. got it? All these piece meal coaching never works.. It is a coordinated swing from start to finish.. start wrong and supinate.. goodluck.
He is not showing that you should continue rotating through impact and not flick over the wrists . It is a trendy move but not necessary.
No this isn't good. Agreed you don't want right hand underneath, but this looks like telling people to flip it
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
A flip is defined as too much extension in the lead wrist and flexion in the trail wrist. These players who do this too excessively also do not demonstrate enough supination and pronation in the forearms which will hinder their ability to produce speed and straighten out their arms. I am not advocating a “flip” but a feel or sensation that allows these players to implement more of this movement
@pukkapeter
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf I guess it comes down to where in the swing and release it's occurring. I'll give it some thought. I'm a scratch golfer btw and a big hitter and it's my usual bad shot, the right arm rolls and delofts me a low hook
Hmm, to prevent flipping you purposely flip your wrist?
Except when I do this, it snap hooks to the left
@tranquilized13
Жыл бұрын
Then your club is getting ahead of your hands.
@fwhites
Жыл бұрын
@@tranquilized13 Or the release is happening too soon. The release happens just AFTER impact.
@glenj.taylor2938
Жыл бұрын
As a whole, this is tough to time correctly and often does lead to inconsistent shots. However, this will generate clubhead speed like nothing else as it's the final pivot point of the swing. Given a proper swing arc, the faster the head of club is traveling when it impacts the ball, the father it goes... into the houses, water, or sometimes OB.😄
“Drill to stop flipping your wrist”… proceeds to then flip wrist in drill lol
@RickyLopez123
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that too. Never liked the wrist flip swing.
@joshuawhittemore1283
Жыл бұрын
If one keeps their head down and behind the ball all the way through impact, one will see that their wrists naturally release without artificial movements.
@TICKETDROPPER1984
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuawhittemore1283 You are absolutely right
@troll707
Жыл бұрын
That isn't flipping the wrists lmao.
@nokia5359
Жыл бұрын
@@troll707 👍
Uh that is the flip
Isn’t this encouraging you to flip your wrists? Opposite of the title 😊
@sonnycaycayon6103
8 ай бұрын
No, you’re rotating your left wrist, not breaking or flipping it, big difference
Isn’t the action you are demonstrating a flip? I love your stuff. The timing of the “thumb point” reversal at speed seems a timing nightmare and a total disconnection from the core. If the impact bag drill has any merit, it totally eliminates the sense of flipping the thumb, doesn’t it? I am sure the misunderstand is mine. As a tennis coach, this time hand movement would be a total disaster. How far can you fit a five with no body move and using just the thumb point reversal? It would seem this full, if it could be timed, would give you 80+% of your distance.
@sonnycaycayon6103
8 ай бұрын
Watch it closely, your left thumb should face the target, flipping it makes you thumb point up
@alexandermayer2026
8 ай бұрын
@@sonnycaycayon6103 thanks. Very cool.
That's a drill to start flipping. Is this a joke? 😂
But why so much flipping on the clubface?
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
my demonstration is slightly exaggerated to give people a visual of me adding supination and pronation to my forearms through impact instead of adding too much lead wrist extension.
@christopherwilson7004
Жыл бұрын
@@JKMGolf usually for me that would cause me more extension then bowling. For me keeping the club face pointing down the target line longer promotes more accuracy.
Looks like your flipping the club. I’m being taught to not do that?
@JKMGolf
Жыл бұрын
My movement was exaggerated and I talk about a certain movement that addresses a specific issue that I mention in the video
@sigmagolfers
Жыл бұрын
That’s whats confusing to me……some people say not to do this….then u see videos like this to say the contrary.
Flipping the club .. I don't think
This is very hard to time it. Not good at all
Nope!
That’s not the first “first big mistake I see…” I just saw another video you made in the same uniform that had a different tip. Can’t have two firsts!
ummmmmm.. dude that's a flip..