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@outdoorwarvetitsavedmylife7094

5 жыл бұрын

Just curious if any of yall ever been to michigan for steelhead and salmon run

@rogerjames2729

3 жыл бұрын

Wow just a year ago you were trying to hit 30k subs, now you have 5 times that. Incredible keep up the content brother! Love your videos!

Thank you for the tutorial on how to floss properly!

@matthewcharaba2852

2 жыл бұрын

You must not fish very much lol 😂 You are most likely also the type of guy to say anyone using a twitching jig or spinner is trying to snag lol

Dude thank you for this video. My friends and I tried for 5 days still kindve rookies to the salmon game we were floating eggs with a setup we got from another one of your videos. We had no luck the 2nd place we went there were a lot more people and every single one of them were doing the flossing method you just showed. My buddy talked to someone and they said your allowed 1 big pull like that before reeling in. It seemed crazy fishy to us we kept floating eggs still no luck we saw some other people catch a few King's but they were flossing for sure I know now. I will admit out of frustration of not catching anything and lack of knowledge listening to others instead of learning the rules ourselves we gave in and tried it still no luck but we never felt great about it while doing it at the end of the trip and learning what we have since we're all in agreement getting skunked was better than catching even one unethically. Thank you for this video earned a sub from me.

I live in Oregon & I was taught to floss w/6ft leader. Didn't know better until I started watching Addicted since then I fish the proper way. Thanks guys!

Thanks a ton for this video Jordan. I'm moving to WA, and as important as the "to do's" are, the "don't do's" are just as important to me.

So glad you made this video Just moved to the NW Co workers insisted to me the fish dons chase bait and flossing was the only way to catch them. ( mind you I’ve been watching your videos since I moved up and new it was BS. Thanks again

finally, a tutorial on the right way to do it the “wrong way”.

That was one of the best and most explanatory videos you guys have put out on drift fishing yet. Thank you. I hope some of the drift fisherman haters see this video

When we see it we like to point it out. ..... we'll call it out for the individual " 1,2,3 Lift " on every drift they make. They sometimes get the message. Thanks Henry Schmidt

I have seen guys doing the hard hook set at the end of a run before reeling in. Being fairly new to salmon/steelhead fishing here in Oregon I thought that's what you wanted to do to prevent from snagging or whatever. I had know idea that most guys I've seen where "snagging" thanks for the info! I'm still chasing my first steelhead. Thanks for all the great info guys!💪👊🎣

@muckleshoot1

4 жыл бұрын

@@nicmartin848 and your a typical fucking snagger, everyone of you have a book of excuses on why you snag or how your method isn't snagging or why you set the hook every 2secoonds of every cast...Jordan has forgot more about fishing in 1 day then you will ever know in your pathetic life..let's see your videos,pictures,or hear feedback from clients on how great of a fisherman/guide you are.................that's what I thought

Thanks for the good explanation between the two. Always wondered what the difference was

@AddictedFishing

5 жыл бұрын

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That’s was educational, I never quite understood how flossing works but did hear of the term. I was worried when I drift fish using floats if I was flossing somehow lol. I started float fishing this past year so a newbie at it

@AddictedFishing

5 жыл бұрын

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Great video. I think it's important to state where these differences are for however. In Alaska flossing is the practiced, legal and acceptable method because the salmon do not feed where we are. They are just running up stream to die. We still need to hook them in the mouth for it to be legal though. If you get the hook anywhere else, that is snagging and illegal.

@tysonseafoot7834

3 жыл бұрын

You don’t need to floss in Alaska lol. And every salmon in the pacific dies during spawn. You flossers always have excuses.

@rycrawford5126

3 жыл бұрын

The salmon in oregon are actually much harder to catch than alaska. Fished both. Alaska has 100 times more fish and there more aggressive. In the Pnw high river temperatures and dams built to make electricity really kill the majority of up river fish

@williamwood9942

2 жыл бұрын

CGP, you make good points here. It's too bad so many commenters against flossing aren't well read about the salmon for which they are fishing. Unfortunately some craven fishing pirates will floss for kings and coho. It's not illegal unless you are doing the final rip. The final rip is completely unnecessary anyway. However both coho and king do of course actually attack bait, lures and flies, so it's much more sporting to catch them that way. They are both predatory species consuming larger baitfish, squid and the like in open salt water. They have to chase and catch their prey. However sockeye's have generally stopped feeding in the ocean about three weeks ahead of their migration to their freshwater homes. Add to that, sockeyes are planktonic and crustacean feeders and they simply don't chase food down like the other species. Sockeye get agitated on the redd defending their space and clutch and will grab other sockeyes, sculpin and just debris to move it away from the redd. They will definitely grab our gear swinging through their nests. Otherwise sockeye will mostly just try and get out of the way of your gear when they see it. People have just gotten lazy and won't do their own investigations/ research. It's the culture of just repeating the last thing they heard or read from a 2nd or 3rd source. Do your home work folks and try some critical thinking skills out. Read the Alaska reg's and talk to some Alaska fisheries biologists and trustworthy fisherman. Tight lines to all.

Drifting with bait (eggs or herring ) behind about 16" of some split shot weight is deadly for kings and silvers in Alaska. Unfortunately the kings are pretty much extinct now. I only swing flies now, unless I'm flossing for Reds . Use a small circle hook with about 4 ft. of leader, and just swing it. No need to jerk at the end of the drift. You don't get any foul-hooked fish this way!

Would like to see y'all on the Puyallup river this year for pinkies and try to explain that to them LOL. Hope its a great run this year and you all get to make it up there

@illyakuzmych7813

4 жыл бұрын

Vandal Geiseric yeah if you mention the “ethical” way at Puyallup you’ll get laughed at

@ulisesmartinez6432

Жыл бұрын

@@illyakuzmych7813 makes sense too now that its all coming to back to us this year. its been really slow this year

Having a light weight and a long leader with light line, a small hook and a small presentation allows you to drift into slower softer water where a lot of steelhead hang out. Not all people running long leaders are flossers.

@Ray_NA

4 жыл бұрын

And not all people running short leaders are "ethical drifters"...lol

Met Jordan in Portland a few weeks back, really cool dude !

Imagine thirty or forty guys setting the hook at the end of every single drift... the sound you hear is where places like the “helicopter hole” gets named. Not kidding. Every single Washington river during Salmon season- regardless of species. Pick a day in October and I could drive you to any of a dozen spots. Guaranteed. Pathetic. All those fish are biters if they aren’t harassed. The excuse is usually something like “I am just trying to feed my family” or “these fish don’t bite” etc. I wish WDFW could just enforce the laws. Otherwise, I’d just rather fish somewhere else. I appreciate Jordan taking a stab at an explanation but I feel like he left the bulk of my contempt for snagging out of the vid.

@slipknotmfkr3

4 жыл бұрын

Jody Durant you think they bite in 1” water visibility? 😂

@millennialoutlier7193

4 жыл бұрын

@slipknotmfkr3 you must be fishing the puyallup lol

@395glen

4 жыл бұрын

Yup sounds like he fishes the Puyallup. The rivers I fish never get that dirty unless a huge storms dumps a lot of water. And yea they do bite. I've had some amazing days float fishing roe on the upper reaches of a river

@ijohnnn

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the American and Feather river

Awsome topic and way to crack open a can of worms l jordan .Iove it. I wish koehl and eric where to get in on the convo. See you out there bro

I'm new to salmon fishing. Thanks for advice I don't want to be doing wrong

Thank you! I always saw the terms, but never knew what they were.

@gregriba6896

3 жыл бұрын

After this dudes video u still dont know their true meaning lol he is clueless

Best distinction I've heard! I even had a prolonged discussion with a WDFW officer I know a few years back and I didn't get a clear idea what exactly the difference was. Thanks very much!

I been drifting for years over 15 to be exact i call it snagging with style there's really not a right or a wrong well there's always a possibility but 95% of the these fish just swim in to the line being so pressured but steelhead and trout on the other hand i have had them hit my beads roe drifting is the way to go if u ask me thats just me though tight lines guy #keepitbent

I dont agree ..but this topic can be debated for days

@AddictedFishing

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it can... HAHA!

@deej9367

4 жыл бұрын

It's the people that are flossing on a river with 2 inches of visabilaty using a 10 foot leader and insist the fish are hitting there small bead really annoys me. Just admit what your doing I'd have more respect for you

Here in michigan when using flies we used a longer leader or if its a double bead set up and some do try to set the hook with flossing but alot of us we do the ethical drift and i get a natural bite each time. I do a slow steady reel in and have had hits like that. The fish i accidentally snagged i let go beacuse most the time they are tail slapping it away and gets caught in the tail but i also use a sensitive pole so i feel the natural bite.

Thank you!

Some guys are really good at it, it's kind of an art form unto itself. :)

Jeez, my fishery on the cascade river I love to drift fish for springers and float egg. Orange corky with black yarn is killer. It was hard to tell a bite for a while but I figured out it’s when your line kind of just stops from drifting. When it stops you’re either snagged or a fish, but I still see constant people trying to floss or snag and it pisses me off

Great video.

And I'm that guy with a 9 weight, full sink tip and 15ft tapered leader...

@rileybutcher8220

3 жыл бұрын

“Fly fishing” flossing with a pretty lure!! 😂

Thanks for the clarification

It's about damn time someone pointed out that flossing is simply another form of snagging. Thank you Jordan for actually referring to flossing as the "unethical method" over drift fishing where the fish takes the bait himself instead of some jack wang slicing the line across the fish's mouth. Thank you guys again for making this video to point out how not to unethically fish!!

Skokomish 'drift fishing' anglers told me they use 15ft+ leaders so when they snag on the bottom, they could break off and still have enough leader to tie another hook. I observed a small piece of yarn with a hook on their setups. Best reason I heard about long leaders thus far.

@gbasa1184

5 жыл бұрын

I was new to fishing salmon then.

@williamwood9942

2 жыл бұрын

g Bass. It's commonly guided practice on deeper Alaska rivers to fish beads on 11' leaders below strike indicators with a small split shot to get down to the bottom where the rainbows and dollies are holding. You'd not likely get a bite otherwise. It's ridiculous to consider this technique snagging. Snagging is illegal in freshwater in AK. AK fishery regulators recognize this. So should everyone else (Shaun Lehman below for example).

nice explanation. tks

Good to know. I was always wondering the difference

Great presentation

Great video. I shared!

Just did salmon this year and new to steel head and this tutorial was very helpful. I am a catch and release guy and I did not know what flossing was. I now understand and definitely will not be doing it. I am in this game for the chase and sport. Just like deer hunting.

Do you guys use free spooling when using a bait caster to make a longer drift? And are you guys going to make a video where you just drift fish instead of using floats?

I always learned nymphing to swing a fly after a good run of some fast water with like a two foot leader, never heard the term flossing or saw how many people hate it until I went to the salmon river lol I guess it's not flossing with the shorter leader and tippet like I use on trout? I just swing the fly across and down and let it drop and sink in the column and if I don't get any hits at the end of the drift i bring it back in without trying to swipe or hook anything, , but I can see how people would use similar idea to almost foul hook fish in that space of water. Thanks for the video

36 " Max in Oregon

Holy crap my town is filled with cheaters, watched so many springs get pulled out but typically only by the people woth super long leaders and yanking at the end of the run. Thank so much for the info, always keep it ethical. Only had 1 on so far but only lasted about 5 seconds aha

2-1/2 foot leader is what I use.

Flossing and snagging in Alaska aren't synonymous so we may have a slightly warped point of view up here relative to others. Flossing sockeye has taught me that ripping line at the end of the drift is the absolute last thing you want to do. If your flossing correctly you'll feel the fish and set the hook, if your ripping line at the end of a drift then your much more likely to hook a fish elsewhere than in the mouth which would in turn make it an illegal fish that must be returned (unless your fishing a snagging fishery like they have down in Homer). I think a lot of people starting off in a flossing fishery begin by ripping line at the end of their drift until they realize that the majority of their hook ups aren't legal. That being said you do still get the occasional illegal/foul hook up once you've got your technique down, but those aren't very common.

@nuckinfutz57

5 жыл бұрын

Doing the Kenai twitch after each cast will get you a ticket. Snagging is illegal in Alaska.

@TheHeadShake-ob2hg

4 жыл бұрын

@Frederick Duncan i hook tons of legal fish chucking and ducking. You just need to know how to do it.

@williamwood9942

2 жыл бұрын

Well said Michael Sharp and right on the money in all respects. No one hates snagging a sockeye more than my family and friends, even when the fishing is so slow or no fish are even swimming by. Snagging is a giant waste of time, exhausting a fish you can't keep, forcing the people your fishing with along the bank to stop fishing and maybe even braking a rod.

You guys are killing me. I can’t wait until I move to Kennewick WA.

@1018connor

5 жыл бұрын

don't think there are many places to drift fish around tri cities (for steelhead) most of it is trolling by boat. I'm mainly a bass and walleye guy but want to try drift fishing and i can't find a close place by to do it. And that is if they ever open the river up for them this year. If you know a few places by tricities to do this please let me know!

@Jimithy98

5 жыл бұрын

you can drift fish near tri cities there is a spot right on the banks of Hanford that is good drift fishing for steelhead. Jigs and shrimp work good there.

@medtech1a

5 жыл бұрын

I will be traveling around Washington Montana Oregon.

@1018connor

5 жыл бұрын

@dumb boy short vids... I have lived here my whole life bud. Sorry just trying to expand my fishing techniques beyond what I know so far. I thought asking a simple question in the comments was a good idea. I hope not to run into you on the river. I’ve fished buoy 10 my whole life and bass and walleye in the tricities my whole life as well. -tight lines

@1018connor

5 жыл бұрын

No rod No reel thank you!! Appreciate the advise, I’ll give it a shot!

I stoped drift fishing during salmon season because all of the snagers tried to get me to set the hook at at the end so I just bobber fish

@johnwoods1688

4 жыл бұрын

Fishing 4 reel why stop? You gave up a great method of fishing because others wanted you to do it their way? Kind of silly

@shakeandbaked1

4 жыл бұрын

I stopped drift fishing because people thought I was flossing and it wasn’t worth the hassle of dealing with people. For the record I have never caught a salmon or steel head drifting or with any other method. So I just went back to trout fishing.

@ijohnnn

3 жыл бұрын

Throw spoons

@acdcphsico

2 жыл бұрын

flossing is snagging, and drifting is a fancy way of flossing. it's all snagging and dumb as hell

Thanks Jordan! Question........if you and the Addicted Crew see folks flossing do you confront them? If so, what’s your approach?

Some people can't handle the fact that only ~3% of kings on the run will do an instinct strike.

@Erik-gf9ux

3 жыл бұрын

So fine true lol

@acdcphsico

2 жыл бұрын

yeah cause flossing and drifting is all snagging. it's retarded, might as well net the damn fish

@travisalexphoto

7 ай бұрын

Bingo.

Nice video! What about catching a Salmon with a Double Hook Set-up and a Roe Bag? I was basically bottom bouncing the short leader (24" maybe), i felt tap, tap, tap,,,I didnt set my hook immediately, I hit my baitcaster button to let it go a little bit further, felt a thump, and then set my hook, caught the Chinook on the second hook (corner of mouth). I believe the fish chased my cured eggs and not a flossing or snagging technique.

@brianjohnston4207

10 ай бұрын

Double hook set up is illegal in Washington when the anti-snagging rule is in affect except when fishing with a buoyant lure.

I’m in Alaska people rip threw the water at the sanctuary Russian River. When I’m in Soldotna I go to a great fishing hole and basically use anywhere from a 7-9 ft leader depending on water depth, sometimes the kenai river is deep along the banks but like this yr it was a little low. Yes drifting works , I stopped using the (kenai twitch ) method. Lol. Or the Russian River twitch.

If you want to see a good example of "flossing" or snagging, just go to bowling alley hole on the mouth of the clack or eagle creek during fall coho run. And not hooking in the mouth by the way, all belly flopping or on the back. I watched these two guys fill there tags at the snag hole on eagle creek(bonnie lure) doing just that with bait casters, personally I think fish/game enforcement turn a blind eye to it...

@havnt3782

5 жыл бұрын

blue creek trout hatchery hole too

@Rozman86

4 жыл бұрын

Was at cedar Creek tonight and wow...first time I've ever witnesses that. So blatant

Incredible *Fishing* Congratulations Fisherman! Have a great week and lots of *Fish* on the Line.👍🎣🐠🐟😎

Regarding leader length, In Washington state they have lots of regulations on when and how you can fish. If Fish and Wild life thought it was flossing I think they would say no leader over 3 1/2 feet.

Hunting and fishing!

When I first started Salmon and steelhead fishing in Michigan in the 1970s, snagging salmon in rivers was legal. One reason my dad and I never went for salmon. Steelheading was different. Snagging was not allowed. The primary method for fishing was drift fishing with methods similar to today's drift fishing methods. Since this was before lead issues, we would use a 3 way and leave a 6 to 8 inch tag off one of the swivels and just crimp a bunch of split shot on. If your weight snagged, the split shot just pulled off Michigan outlawed snagging in the early 1990s

@joshuavanderschaaf5145

3 жыл бұрын

Fishing with a 3 way drop is exactly how I learned to fish on the Muskegon river.

"unethical" that's funny, the entire state of Alaska snags. All these comments about " how would you like a hook being ripped across your mouth?" Do you know what you're doing if they bite? 😂

Yeah, when pinks hit the the Campbell River, BC some guys not even trying to put any colourful presentation . They just put bare jig and 9 feet leader and lets go.

I do floss when I fish on a River here in Anchorage A.K. But the way I do it is very slow pass and no Jenkins the fly at the end of the drift. The fish hook itself that way. I try to teach people. And it makes me mad seeing people just ripping it out of the water snagging fish everywhere but the mouth. What's the point if you have to release the fish! I hate it.

I have only two lengths that i pre-cut my leaders to for drift fishing. Depending on the water conditions, different bodies of water. Its either going to be a 5' cut or a 4' cut i end up losing about 6 inches after the hook is added and its tied on to the line. However it may be unethical, frowned upon and not recommend to floss but as long as a legal leader length isnt set any fish hooked inside the mouth wether you have a 10' leader or a 4' leader its still legal.

Unethical? In areas where flossing is illegal, don't do it. Sockeye salmon stop feeding when they return to spawn. So every sockeye caught in fresh water was caught unethically? Another way we catch Sockeye in the personal use fishery is dipnetting. Is dipnetting unethical because the fish didn't actually bite? The majority of fish in fish markets were netted commercially. Were those fish caught unethically because they didn't actually bite? My point is that a number of different angling methods are available to anglers depending on season, region, species, etc.. To label a perfectly legal method of fishing as unethical is a bit narrow. Additionally, all salmon can be snagged in any manner, legally, in salt water. That can be your next video. 😉 I do enjoy the content on your videos. Thank you.

@travisalexphoto

7 ай бұрын

Isn't it hilarious? It's such a stupid pretentious and privileged idea to expect that fish that have off feeding times or worse, that have less than a 3% active bite shouldn't be caught at all. If flossing is unethical by this explanation, then all lifting of your rod is a snagged fish, and the only "ethical catch" is when you feel a rish pull the line. People should focus on angler actions and the way they treat others and the fish they catch, and less on this.

Flossing is what people who doen't know how to fish or what a bite feels like do. If fish don't bite they don't bite. It is really irritating how many people think this is fishing, and legal. Its not. Do us all a favor, shorten your leaders or switch to bobbers and jigs or better yet get your fish from the store.

@williambrown8177

5 жыл бұрын

@@dumbboyshortvids3139 like I said if you are flossing because you need " resources " go to the store, not my river. Flossing aka snagging is illegal., but thanks for your opinion

@williambrown8177

5 жыл бұрын

@@dumbboyshortvids3139 I'm glad you feel good about flossing fish, you should learn the bite and have a great time actually feeling when a fish bites your lure. Flossing is for beginners. Keep on doing what you enjoy, and good luck learning how to truly drift fish.

@williambrown8177

5 жыл бұрын

@@dumbboyshortvids3139 I don't know who taught you flossing wasn't frowned upon 30 years ago, it has always been frowned upon. I'm 50 and have been steelhead and salmon fishing since I was 10, and flossing was and has always been looked down on. You read magazines books watch TV shows, nobody is explaining how to floss fish. If it was a great way for beginners to catch fish you would see it everywhere. The fact we are having this conversation and people are putting out videos what not to do should tell you it's not a technique people like or should use.

@joshuavanderschaaf5145

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't advocate people going to the store to buy fish. Commercial fishing is killing the salmon fishing industry and it isn't sustainable. Just saying pick your battles. I fish with a bobber 90% of the time but when I do dift fish I use a short leader usually around 20in or less and have been accused of flossing. One guy got a bloody nose because he wouldn't shut up. I also use floaters in my spawn bags when I dift fish.... a clear sign that a person is not trying to floss. I'd personally rather see a few people flossing than have a 500ft trawler scooping up 100's of thousands of pounds of salmon and by catch at a time. My point is pick your battles.

@renownriverspnw5314

3 жыл бұрын

Joshua Vanderschaaf hundred percent agree with your statement

When they ain’t biting you have to do what you have to do

Thats how %99 of all sockeye are caught on the naknek river in Alaska while using fly rods is flossing. When those fish enter the naknek river they are not feeding, they do not bite at any type of lure or anything, so the only way to hook any fish is to jerk that line when you feel something on the other end. But i know we are talking steelhead here so the upper Rogue is out cause we never get enough steelhead to line!

@travisalexphoto

7 ай бұрын

The steelhead are munching far more often too.

Youre gonna blow up on KZread, hey how about a float fishing video just like this one

@AddictedFishing

5 жыл бұрын

On it!

I dont get it. When they made snagging illegal we went for 2 years after out in pulaski and stopped going. It used to be a great time. The hatcheries get plenty of eggs, plenty of salmon spawn to keep the reproduction going, so i dont understand the issue. If you hook a fish anywhere it is still hooked. The fish we hooked we kept. If you catch and release salmon in the river, how many of them end up dieing and not spawning because they got tired out for no reason? If these fish end up spawning they usually die anyway so how does ethical fishing effect anything? Now if we are talking about any other kind of fishing where the fish are not going to die anyway, then yes i do not agree with snagging. For instance the steelhead season after the salmon spawn. I do not agree with snagging them. The regular trout season, no snagging there either.

Doesn't leader length also depend on water depth?

@PSPluggin

4 жыл бұрын

no

I floss for chums all the time. They're always hooked in the corner of the mouth. It works great.

Great video. I use a 3 and a half foot leader. I have caught plenty of steelhead. But i would have to imagine that even with a shorter leader that you could still be flossing a fish. Just saying. I also use corky and yarn. So I'm flossing because I use a smaller corky and yarn?? I guess i will just keep following regs and keep it legal. 👍

@jerzyzwie

3 жыл бұрын

I am thinking the same, you are still dragging shorter leader on the bottom and snagging the fish, I am not the expert but would make sense to use float with the right depth to be really doing sport fishing and trying to entice fish to bait.

@TheMrmanning71

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerzyzwie yep!! Bobber down!!!! I use that setup as well.

Not 1st but notifications are on oh Yeah! #steelhead

I recently started fishing and am trying to catch salmon in the America river but hooks don't have to have a beard, can you tell me the types of hooks and thank you very much?

@ijohnnn

3 жыл бұрын

Your flossing?

Flossing takes skills 2 it’s not easy.

@tysonseafoot7834

3 жыл бұрын

Lolololol

@williamwood9942

2 жыл бұрын

Says someone who's not a successful sockeye salmon fisherman...

This is a great video - thank you for sharing! I am new to Michigan and saw this in person for the first time and had no idea that people actually do that. Super unethical in my opinion...

@AddictedFishing

4 жыл бұрын

Agree!!

I used to floss all the time till it became illegal. Had a blast and always had the hook inside the mouth. The fun and sport is having the fish on the end of your line, where it becomes bs is when people start using treble hooks and take more than what they are allowed. I’d floss if it were legal because I don’t think it’s unethical. Just my opinion though. Oh, and I only sport fish since I don’t eat them. Just love fishing

@roballen3026

2 жыл бұрын

it's always been illegal in Washington.. the definition of snagging is hooking a fish in such a way that the fish does not "voluntarily take the hooks into it's mouth" that has been in the WA reg books since i was a child in the 80s. flossing has always been snagging and still is.

@ggentile146

2 жыл бұрын

@@roballen3026 Did I insinuate that it wasn’t snagging? I’m from California, and technically it’s still legal but they’ve put a limit on the amount of leader you can use. I believe it’s 6 feet now.

Interesting

Tell me the proper set up for salmon st tippy dam if u can thk

That’s what’s gonna separate the men from the boys hahaha

Can still floss ethicly w short 4' whip uh?

@tysonseafoot7834

3 жыл бұрын

No flossing is ethical lol

How about a muddy river like the Puyallup? How are you supposed to get fish to bite something they can't see?!!!

I've been going down to a local river latley and all the guys are lined up in the river in a tiny ass hole. The fish are dumped by truck already cause of awesome dams! And every single guy. Probably 80 dudes. All flossings as hard as possible. I enjoy seeing all these major anglers. Lol.

Years ago in Sacramento before they made leader length regulations dudes would be using 12 foot leaders snagging salmon

I live in Michigan and it makes the fish stop biting anything after they make it past a group of people flossing you drive 3 hours and get to the spot and it has been ravished by people snagging and the fish all have beads and flys all over them it is sad I end up having to go to the pier heads to get my fish not the same experience as floating skein and watching a bobber drop

Is bead fishing flossing since it hooks the fish in the side of the mouth?

@Vicztvr

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm saying am I not allowed to fish with a beed and a short leader without it being called flossing? It's what I've been taught to do here also but never caught nothing

@travisalexphoto

7 ай бұрын

Asking the right questions and getting to the point that this convo is gatekeeping nonsense.

Thanks, I couldn’t figure out why I see people with 6 feet leaders with a weight and a hook, no bait, then yanking to kingdom come and always catching salmon. I got discouraged cause I wasn’t catching but I see they were flossing are on that BS.

I thought most corky yarn fishermen had turrets. Especially in the Puyallup river.

is is so true

Use a fly rod and we always life at the end to throw back out

Bles you brother ‼️‼️

Salmon river NY you arnt allowed to have a leader more than 48" between hook and swivel.

I don’t know mannnn....I’ve seen guys using 10 ft leaders and hook the fish in the mouth..if not swallowed by the fish...when I see flossers: it’s a cast and they’re constantly sweeping and touching bottom, sweeping and touching bottom...

great video! i hate flossers.

"Can you believe that fuckin thing bit my tiny little corki with 10 feet of leader?" Uh no not really.... lol

How do you know when to set the hook when drift fishing?

@lucianj.9084

5 жыл бұрын

daniel sakamoto it’s just a long steady tug, feels very similar to getting snagged on the bottom and don’t set the hook hard, steady pull sideways downstream or you’ll just rip the hook right through the salmon mouth and make u look like you’re trying to actually snag the fish

@williambrown8177

5 жыл бұрын

There are several different types of bites. The most common is the rod feels a little heavier like you just had a leaf stick on your line and you will feel a slight surge. What that is, is the fish has picked up your bait or bead or whatever. Its not a dead stop like a snag. The second is a trout like bite, feels like a trout is picking at your bait. A tap tap tap. The third and most fun is the frieght train, and just like it sounds the fish picks up your lure and makes a run for it. Hope this helps, it takes alot of time to truly know and learn the bite, but its like riding a bike once you get it, it never goes away. Good luck

@babyboomer198

5 жыл бұрын

Net boy Of dash point Thank you! So much to learn!

@babyboomer198

5 жыл бұрын

William Brown Thank you for all the great information!

Went to the washougal yesterday and let’s just say, less then 3 people weren’t flossing. It’s nasty

in parts of california ive seen people use 25ft leaders, no joke. straight flossing

@havnt3782

5 жыл бұрын

how do u cast that lmao

@ijohnnn

3 жыл бұрын

Kooks

so would a cast net be ok?

Its unethical for you to fish during the week while the rest of us have to work. At least you film it so I can watch...

Lifting salmon, referred to as flossing nowadays, is a finesse technique. The idea is to drift your line down to the salmon mouth. This dude's demonstration is exaggerated. You raise your rod at the end of the drift. It sweeps your leader across the current. Salmon don't really feed during the spawn. They bite once in a while, but not consistently. I've caught hundreds of salmon and can count a handful that bit. The bottom line is they are fish at the end of their life cycle. They're not coming back next year, in fact they'll be dead in days. Catch the fish and feed your family.

@travisalexphoto

7 ай бұрын

Correct, and a gross one at that.

But I regularly do a big lift and fast retrieve at the end to get the hook and weight off the bottom when I'm drifting bait so I don't snag on the rocks.....

@travisalexphoto

7 ай бұрын

And that's the issue. Under the parameters of what most of the people in here consider "snagging" is "lifting", which means pretty much all salmon fishing is snagging the moment you "Life" at any point. Hence why I think these convos are pointless, and conversations should be more focused on the behavior of the angler and the way they treat the fish when caught. That's more important than "Flossing"

Wow! Looks like I've been unknowingly floss fishing Steelhead for well over 30 years. No wonder why I catch so many more than the guys around me fishing with short 12# test mono leaders and size 2 hooks. I thought hiding my line using long (sometimes 6 ft.+) 4# test fluoro and size 18 hooks was my advantage. over them. I've been cheating all along!

@eviseratorkyle

2 жыл бұрын

Its not cheating if you don't get caught

The whole time I was watching this I was worried that that drift would be snaggy, because those big melon rocks on the far bank