How Does Trauma Change Our Brain, Body, and Behavior? | Dr. Janina Fisher
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Our latest guest on The MindHealth360 Show, Dr. Janina Fisher, one of the world’s leading experts on treating trauma, explains the revolution in trauma treatment since Bessel van der Kolk’s work, which showed that trauma is not in the event itself, but rather in the body’s reaction to that event, which is stored in the body, the nervous system and the lower brain regions. This explains why talk therapy and CBT, which engage the brain’s higher prefrontal cortex, so often fail to address the root causes of mental health issues and are blunt tools when it comes to successfully treating trauma.
She explains that when we have an emotional reaction to an event or a person, we may actually be having a “feeling memory”, reacting to an implicit memory from a childhood trauma rather than to the actual person or event in the present. And this memory can trigger our nervous system’s animalistic response to an earlier threat - whether mammalian (fight/flight) or reptilian (freeze) in the present - dysregulating our nervous system and contributing to mental health symptoms such as depression, anxiety, and lack of focus.
Dr. Fisher developed the groundbreaking TIST (trauma informed stabilisation treatment) therapy to help heal trauma and teach trauma therapists around the world. Combining Dr. Dick Schwartz’ IFS parts work with mindfulness, clinical hypnosis, and sensorimotor psychotherapy, her approach has proven very successful in sustainably treating trauma. Here she shares some key insights to help us understand the effects of trauma and nervous system dysregulation on our bodies, minds and behaviour, and gives us some top tips for recovery.
Janina Fisher, Ph.D. is a licensed clinical psychologist and a former instructor at Harvard Medical School. An international expert on the treatment of trauma, she is an Advisory Board member of the Trauma Research Foundation and the author of three books, Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors: Overcoming Self-Alienation (2017), Transforming the Living Legacy of Trauma: a Workbook for Survivors and Therapists (2021), and The Living Legacy Instructional Flip Chart (2022). She is best known for her work on integrating mindfulness-based interventions into trauma treatment, and she is also the creator of Trauma-Informed Stabilization Treatment (TIST) therapy.
Learn about:
- Why talk therapy can be retraumatising and which therapies work best to address trauma
- Why we are born with a negativity bias and how this can exacerbate the impact of childhood trauma
- How we are born wired to dissociate, both as an adaptive response to trauma, but also to help us reach peak performance states
- Why being overwhelmed as a child by frightening parents can prevent the development of a strong sense of Self and self-esteem
- The two core fears in trauma: being abandoned, or being attacked and annihilated
- How to start healing by transforming how the body and mind remember what happened, since we cannot change the events themselves
- How meditation can dampen the activity of the amygdala and the reptilian brain and increase the activity of the prefrontal cortex, and how practising everyday mindfulness (with or without daily meditation) can help to recalibrate the nervous system
- Why it can be hard to focus on the positives for people who have been traumatised, and why feeling safe and relaxed can be a cue of danger
- Is it ADHD or trauma? Why a regulated nervous system is the bedrock of attention and focus (as well as happiness and calm), and the better regulated our nervous system, the better we can focus (and deal with depression and anxiety)
- How we can manipulate our behaviour to produce the biochemicals to get relief from uncomfortable states
- Why pathogens and toxins can prime us to be more susceptible to trauma, and how trauma primes us to be more susceptible to pathogens and toxins
- How we can develop a secure attachment if we’ve never had one; the concept of “earned secure attachment” and “internal attachment” and how they can be encouraged through daily practice
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I love that the interview read the book. That shows her respect for Janina which makes this a great interview.
I enjoyed the art of grace and flow in the conversation. Very smooth self and other interactions. How Janina relates is just as much speaking a manner of being with another that is soothing. Attunement modeling here.
Awesome information presented in a loving manner ❤
Beautiful interview. A real delight to listen 🙂. I appreciate the interviewer’s comments. She plays an important part in this interview and it is her genuine interest in the topic that makes it so good. She has good insights and knowledge.
Thank you for this interview🙏 Love Janina ❤️
@TheMindHealth360Show
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to listen 😀
Thank you for this very well done extended interview.
@TheMindHealth360Show
2 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
Incredible interview.. so well explained and very logical... Janina has such a wealth of experience AND an ability to explain her reasoning behind what she practices and believes... i thought the interviewer was great too!
Her trauma workbook is great !
@mariastansbury8567
2 ай бұрын
Which one?
30:10 (note for self) First comment! This is great, thank you for such a thoughtful interview ❤
it doesn't justify, it explains -- doesn't mean you're not still responsible for what you do. but if you are dysregulated moral reasoning is off-line, alas.
I'm also curious if in Janinas model if the kids inside ever grow up into mature adults.
Los tienen en español?
I think God created us to be attached to our parents and when that fails He has provided us the opportunity to have a relationship with Himself. We are mind, body and spirit and when our bodies receive the Holy Spirit we become even more alive with the attachment we have with the Lord. Teying to simply attach to ourselves for healing will never be enough. God has to be in it.
Why does is scare you that people have guns? Do you realize that we all die? Are you not fearful of what happens after life here? I cannot wait to be at home with my Jesus, I pray that you may know God in the way that you can say the same thing.
@StacyHarp
23 күн бұрын
Their model doesn't allow for God. Their God is themselves.
Let the interviewee speak
I'm curious about how they would recommend Joe Biden regulate his nervous system so he's not traumatizing the whole world.
There is a moral dilemma here. The Trauma discourse seems to indicate that traumatised people have no control over their responses due to their distegulated states. This seems to justify behaviours that hurt other people. What seems to be missing from the discourse is the degree to which having a moral compass shapes a person's behaviours regardless of their level of trauma.
@canismajoris39
5 ай бұрын
Moral compass does not exist in the limbic brain. Traumatized people because of their less developed prefrontal cortex live in permanent fight or flight states.
@parisaforpeace
5 ай бұрын
@@canismajoris39 That may be true. But then where does it exist? Are we then saying that traumatised people cannot act morally or ethically? It would perhaps make it more difficult if someone is easily triggered but even then a person's conscience or values can intervene.
The interviewer talks too much and interrupts just when Janine is getting going on a topic. We want to hear Janine and you the interviewer are not supposed to be noticed too much. Next time just let the interviewee talk - don’t shut them down with your “observation” - it is very annoying for the listener (and I’m guessing the interviewee as well).
@canismajoris39
5 ай бұрын
I think the interviewer did a good job with topic introduction, reflecting back and clarifying what Janine was saying.
@hmmcinerney
3 ай бұрын
I agree, she did a great job. Setting up scenarios is part of her role. Otherwise Ms Fisher might as well speak from a podium.
@StacyHarp
23 күн бұрын
As a veteran interviewer myself, the interviewer did fantastic. You need to deal with your over expectations and do your own healing work. It's clear you haven't done your work.
@chrishorton2141
23 күн бұрын
@@StacyHarp Since my comment has risen to the top, and has had the most likes of all the original commenters, and other people had the same exact comment, I am wondering why the personal attack on me we was necessary? Or, you could allow me to have my opinion and you could have yours without accusing me of “not doing my work” 😂😂??
@StacyHarp
23 күн бұрын
@@chrishorton2141 Because it's clear you haven't done your work. Most people haven't. That's my observation. You don't have to like it.