when it comes to colonialism - no-one colonised more than Muslims....!

@Mukurumbira

Ай бұрын

The reason these people who argue to reparations for colonisation despite pretty much every major power at the time have embarked upon it and the Muslins on the whole being the largest colonisers is based on the fact that the West seems hell bend on trying to appeal to the whims of the victimhood mentality (anti white, anti Europe) tirades. Can you imagine the Musim world or Asians actually tolerating such nonsense! They woundn't right. The whole DEI is nothing nothing but a trap Westerners are unable to see is a means to destroy their cultures. Westerners need to wake up and recognise the present and eminent dangers they are due to the pretzeling needs to be inclusive at their own detriment!

@birlalovesyou

Ай бұрын

100% the truth... but they have the audacity to blame others of colonising power...

@user-dc9yv4rf1f

Ай бұрын

Hell no

@carolarmer1204

Ай бұрын

They're still doing it .

@user-vs4rp1qc6q

Ай бұрын

​@carolarmer1204 beat me to it by a minute.😂😂 its definitely not stopping anytime soon either.

Without lies Islam dies

@duckarse11

Ай бұрын

Without lies, ALL RELIGION dies.

@naslaguna2612

Ай бұрын

truly and surely without lies islam dies.

@RemnTheteth

Ай бұрын

this is true of all organized religions and identity-based political groups.

@fionagregory9147

Ай бұрын

Yes

@millerbiz

Ай бұрын

Whilst it’s true of most religions, the lies that Islam perpetuate have deadly consequences. A religion can be founded on lies but the consequences are just a bunch oh delusional people. With Islam you can violence to the delusion

God I'm so sick of hearing this "Colonialism, while ignoring the centuries of Islamic conquests."

The gall of those Muslim complaining about conquest and poor treatment.

@jimbo-yv5jh

Ай бұрын

They've never heard of the islamic slave trade. Muppets!

@lindam9618

Ай бұрын

They're always the victim, because they continuously look to the past, and refuse to move into the current century.

@petermack8398

Ай бұрын

The perfect victim also the perfect abuser.

@ankavoskuilen1725

Ай бұрын

All muslim countries have been colonised by muslims. The fact that they are now in European countries is troublesome.

@virtualatheist

Ай бұрын

Spain and Portugal have entered the chat. They can tell you lots about Muslim colonisation.

I have listened extensively to Douglas Murray over many years! And I can honestly say that I have never had reason to disagree with a thing he's said. He is our national treasure and our Best friend! 🇬🇧💙

@jack_attack

Ай бұрын

He represents the political centre perfectly. Leans right in places, leans left in places, like the majority of sane-minded Brits.

The European people have a right to be European. Muslims are entering European countries by the hundreds of thousands. This is a present-day form of colonialism. It is colonialism through stealth. This is also happening in Australia.

@foyorama

Ай бұрын

And they want to install their culture in the west…. I would send them all back, come as a tourist and then leave.

@grumpycrumbles7360

Ай бұрын

Careful! They will call you an islamophobe 😔🥺

@aerotanguero9580

Ай бұрын

Can't agree with that - its millions, not hundreds of thousands (and with it goes a massive drain of the benefits we all contributed to). Also I think its gone rather beyond stealth now - with all these pro-terrorist marches.

@aerotanguero9580

Ай бұрын

@@grumpycrumbles7360 It's not a "phobia" - the threat is very real.

@grumpycrumbles7360

Ай бұрын

@@aerotanguero9580 Yes I completely agree. My comment was meant to be sarcastic.

Imagine going to Saudi Arabia and try to build a Christian Church or voice Christian Prayers in the street. You will be arrested and jailed immediately.

Know islam, no peace. No islam, know peace.

So Spain and Portugal weren't occupied for centuries?

@carpetsonline3718

Ай бұрын

Exactly. To even ask such moronic questions.

@CborgMega

Ай бұрын

Or Eastern Europe, by Ottomans. All Balkan countries were "pashaliks" for centurie, Hungary included. Romanian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia, and also Transylvania, were somehow lucky to be dominated and exploited, and not occupied directly with Ottoman administration (the reason we have only a small Muslim minority in the Dobrudja area, in the south corner of the country, at the border with Bulgaria). The Romanian lands were considered "the granary of the Sultanate", and many riches were taken by force, and shipped to Istanbul during years: millions of tonnes of cereals, vegetables, honeybee, wax, timber, ore (gold and silver), salt, also cattle, sheep and horses in huge numbers... Communism is not the only reason Balkans countries are rather poor today, but also the fact that the locals managed to get rid of Ottomans only after the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913, and then the World Wars happened, that also and destroyed a lot of lives... and then, we were so lucky to have Communism forced upon us by Soviet Russia :(

@ankavoskuilen1725

Ай бұрын

By muslims!

@arachnabell

Ай бұрын

@@CborgMega You forget, we dont matter. To anyone. And we never will. We are just a good border,transit and war land. And that is about it. It is not like you do not know this from the attitude of people speaking about us. We are just "poor third country folks " after all. Who cares about us. 90 % of the people dont even know what the history is of our lands. And they dont care.

@rettedich7133

Ай бұрын

The European Students were indoctrinated by Communist and Islamist professors and collegues in the universities but nobody told them about the Ottoman Empire, whice colonialized south-east Europe and the Middle East for 400-500 years, killed Millions of Armenians, took their country and still fights against the Kurds and christians in North of Syria, etc. Nobody told them about the colonializm of Islam or the Arabic slave trade, the Arabic pirates in Mediterranian See, etc. A shame for the European Students to not know history!

India was colonised through military conquest by Islamists from Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Iran. They destroyed thousands of hindhu, Jain and Buddhist Temples and bent on forced conversions of Hindhus to Islam. Islamic oppression of Hindhus lasted from the 13th century to 1947 ( Partition and creation of Pakistan saw nearly 500,000 Hindhus and Sikhs killed by Islamists. All this was colonialism too.

@getlost3346

Ай бұрын

And they tried to invade China as well. The Chinese raised a Crusade to counter the Muslim Army. It worked. Chinese stopped the Muslim invasion.

@DavidHarvey-po9le

Ай бұрын

Well said, but only white transgressions are allowed to be taught in white funded schoolrooms - pandering to muslims doesn't work - let's stop it.

@premchand1manju

Ай бұрын

Colonised by islamists alone? What about Europeans dear?😅

@getlost3346

Ай бұрын

@@premchand1manju what about Europeans?

@geoffdundee

Ай бұрын

@krisi7562 .........during the peaceful islamic conquests of india it is estimated 200 MILLION were killed........yes i said 200 million.......in one day alone 80k were beheaded and the skulls piled up high like a mountain.

Who didn't have colonies? Like the Europeans invented it. Oh colonialism is centuries old. The Moors were in Spain for about 700 years. How many centuries were the Ottomans in the Balkans?

@spartanwarrior1

Ай бұрын

colonialism is a poor excuse for the misery in the third world.

@theinngu5560

Ай бұрын

@@spartanwarrior1 exactly…it keeps resentment and victimhood and stops the focus on moving forward. It blames people living now for things they did not do and people who were not harmed now are trying to get something for free because of what happened to dead people. It’s pretty crazy. We need to live in the present and make good ethical causes for the future. Blame and resentment make people very miserable. I hope that people will get to see this for their own sake!

@aliciachristopher6506

Ай бұрын

@@spartanwarrior1 Europe didn't invent colonialism.

@HFFCANADA

Ай бұрын

​@@aliciachristopher6506We just dd it better and won 😂

@arachnabell

Ай бұрын

@@spartanwarrior1 Western Europe treated the Baltic States as a border to fight on for the longest time. What? Now it is forgotten right? The convenient cushion for the western Europe for the longest time in history. No one blames you for it. It is how it was. Western Europe was stronger and the rest of us where just convenient casulties. Be it war or politics. Trade or borders. We recognize it for what it was and we moved on. But dont pretend it didnt exist. From 650 until 1308, why dont you look it up. After that it was Ottoman wars. Why dont you google it. Until almost 20 century there have been constant invasions we cushioned. And then there was also ww1 and ww2. And after that it was the war for seperation of the convenient artifical state Europe and America created there. Since it was better to have a big force as a pillow then a lot of small ones. Who cared about the cultures and differences then? No one. We dont blame Western Europe for it. And we have never considered ourselves as victims. If you gave us lemons we made a fcking lemonade. But do not pretend like our blood and sweat and generations of casulties to soften the blow is nothing. And that it did not cause misery and poverty there. And that is not on you personally. Or normal civilians. It is the politicians and higher ups that always decided the faith of others. Just like European Union is doing now. There is difference.

Yes the Turkish empire but also the Arab slave trade, it started earlier and outlasted the Europeans because Arabs are still trading African slave *TILL THIS DAY*

@petejohnson7965

Ай бұрын

The Barbary Corsairs and Tartar black sea trade kidnapped/traded an estimated 3 million European slaves over the same period as the trans Atlantic slave trade

@ApostleOfZeus199

Ай бұрын

They've expanded that to gr00ming gangs now. All across the U.K on an industrial scale

@usafvet100

Ай бұрын

The Trans Saharan Slave Trade route is all but ignored despite the fact that it enslaved more Sub Saharan Africans than the Trans Atlantic Crossing and had a transit mortality rate of 50-75%.

@virtualatheist

Ай бұрын

Agreed. A castrated male slave was offered for sale... ON FACEBOOK!

@johnwong5317

18 күн бұрын

Yep, sold African slaves to Ancient China since Ming Dynasty which 7th century.

The young students protesting over the US universities are remarkably ignorant about history. Fuelled with attitude. Thank heaven for Douglas. An intellectual treasure for the West.

@rettedich7133

Ай бұрын

The European Students were indoctrinated by Communist and Islamist professors and collegues in the universities but nobody told them about the Ottoman Empire, whice colonialized south-east Europe and the Middle East for 400-500 years, killed Millions of Armenians, took their country and still fights against the Kurds and christians in North of Syria, etc. Nobody told them about the colonializm of Islam or the Arabic slave trade, the Arabic pirates in Mediterranian See, etc. A shame for the European Students to not know history!

@induchopra3014

Ай бұрын

Reparations are due to the colonies. Britain hides its colonial history. Why? Why its not taught to children in school. If its so glorious,why Britain fears colonisation? Why do scared of non white British ?

Just let him speak, you don't need to interject to explain. It's not hard to follow the discussion. Douglas Murray is correct is what he says and points out.

@eight8muzik

Ай бұрын

He has to so the video doesn't get deleted. You can't just use a clip from another channel without distributing to it.

We gave these countries advances they would never have. We provided infrastructure/railways/engineering/science and medical advances. We give trillions away in foreign aid and generous charity donations and continue to take in foreigners who are catered to from the moment they arrive. We are not here to fix all the problems in the world and we dont need to keep taking in people, especially since numbers are getting higher & our countries are decaying because of them.

@dannysharp5648

Ай бұрын

100 % Agree 👏🏻

@fijiboy_cr7

Ай бұрын

And still do, these people are ignorant driven by rage and religious views unfortunately.

@fijiboy_cr7

Ай бұрын

And still do, these people are ignorant driven by rage and religious views unfortunately.

@dannysharp5648

Ай бұрын

@@fijiboy_cr7it is unfortunate

@Ardass486

Ай бұрын

Europeans couldn't fly to the moon on a winged horse. Nor could their Jesus cut the moon in half with one swipe of his sword.

I'm white Irish nationalist an proud of it my ancestors went alot more than the blacks during early America we fought for our freedoms an won't give them up to the Muslims without a fight 😤🇮🇪🇮🇪

Little summary of Islamic colonialist expansionism. After Mo died 632 his position was then filled by a series of Caliphs, they continued the expansionist policy of imperialism and colonialism as they spread Islam by the sword. I'll outline the history into Europe, but don't forget the expansionist policy also spread west into North Africa all the way to Morocco, and further East to China. I'll be brief in my outline: By 668 jihad manifested itself outside the walls of Constantinople 711 Islamic armies invaded Spain 800 years of fighting followed until 1492 The jihad engulfed more nations than the Palestine-bound Crusades (there were 8 of these between 1096 and 1270, less than 200 years, they wanted to establish themselves in the holy land which was formerly Christian) Far grander jihad continued as Muslims wanted to take and occupy Europe and Islamize it. Large parts of Europe were taken and occupied for centuries, sometimes devastated and some of it Islamized. Spain Portugal France Italy Sicily Austria Bosnia Serbia Croatia Hungary Romania Wallachia Albania Moldavia Bulgaria Greece Armenia Georgia Poland Ukraine Eastern and southern Russia All Jihad battlefields where Islam conquered or was conquered. Many of those lands were occupied by Muslims, in some cases by Arabs or Moors, in others by Ottoman Turks, usually for hundreds of years. Spain 800 years Portugal 600 (although maybe 106 depending on your perspective) Greece 500 Sicily 300 Serbia 400 Bulgaria 500 Romania 400 Hungary 150 years - a place particularly ruined/plundered and ravaged and it took 200 years to recover. Muslims came and occupied a huge part of Europe, the Turks besieged Vienna twice in 1529 and 1683. Their cavalry raided central Europe, riding into Bavaria almost as far as Nuremberg. They fought in Poland and the Ukraine, crushed Hungary, occupied Belgrade and Budapest for hundreds of years. The Moors and the Arabs took Spain and Portugal, invaded France through the Pyrenees, turned Sicily into an Islamic island, raided Rome, sacked St Peter's and obliged the pope to pay tribute. From their base near St Tropez they raided Switzerland as far as Lake Constance on the German border. The pirates of the Barbary coast raided England, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland and brought back thousands of slaves for the markets of Constantinople (after they had turned it into Istanbul) and North Africa. The Mongols threatened Moscow, occupied the Crimea and became Tatars. The Persians marched into Georgia, so did the Turks, who also occupied Armenia. Some imagine that the sack of Jerusalem in 1099 was the start of the hostility between Islam and the West, they handily ignore the capture of Jerusalem from the Christians in 638, the invasion of Spain some 70 years later by the Arabs and Moors, and the subsequent 800 year occupation in whole or in part of the Iberian peninsula. The unbelievers were pressured to convert and the only reason why in later years it became 'jizya and dhimmitude' rather than 'islam or death' was because it was financially beneficial. It even got to a point in Europe where people were converting to Islam because it was the most practical thing to do, to avoid the second class citizen status, that some Caliph's became concerned about their taxes from Al Andalus, but a later more pious caliph said "Allah sent his Prophet to be and apostle, not a tax collector" but he was the exception. Dhimmis had a hard time in Umayyad caliphate of Al Andalus (elsewhere the Abassids were in charge, long story linked to the Shia/Sunni split and inheritance/bloodlines and Mohammed) Dhimmis could not carry a weapon or ride a horse, into a donkey. They were not allowed to wear shoes and had to walk barefoot. A Christian who claimed that Jesus was divine was automatically executed. A Muslim who became a Christian or Jew was treated likewise. The ringing of church bells was forbidden. Christian religious processions were banned. Non-muslims had to stand aside if a Muslim passed them in the street. They could not wear anything with green in it. If a Muslim assaulted them, they were not allowed to fight back but we're only permitted to ask their aggressor to stop hitting them. Their status in many ways was like the Untouchables of Hindu caste system, or slaves of the Deep South USA. They were the dregs, the bottom of the pile. If they failed to pay the tribute to their conquers, they were enslaved or executed. All that said they weren't in Al Andalus at least, forced to convert. £££££ brother... Practical reality. It is interesting that the west has by-and-large forgotten this history, but it hasn't been forgotten by orthodox muslims, those who see the eventual expulsion of the invading force as a shame, and who seek to take back the lands of Al Andalus etc. It is in quite stark contrast that western Europeans do not celebrate their colonialist past, yet there are significant numbers of those within dar-ul-Islam who consider their colonialism to be a glorious one

@CborgMega

Ай бұрын

Indeed. The same harsh treatment have endured the Orthodox Christians in the Balkans. Another example for your list of ignominies: after Ottoman conquest, Christian women started to wear shalwars (baggy, loose pants - from the Persian word sirwal/shalwār, that entered Turkish language and by it, the Balkan and Eastern European languages). Why? Because they soon found out that are a better deterrent for rape than skirts... This is the reason one could see shalwars even today, on old peasant women (including Christians) in the Greek countryside and other places in the Balkans. And something other interdiction, this time for men: they were not allowed to wear metallic buttons on their coats, only buttons made from bone or wood. (PS: One small correction: please see that in the list, when describing the advance of Muslim occupation, you should place only Moldavia and Wallachia, known as the Romanian Principalities. Romania was officially formed later (in 1859) by their union in a common kingdom.)

@usafvet100

Ай бұрын

Well done, a clear, concise, informative post. 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

@bertramfuscher

Ай бұрын

Islam was spread through colonialism The sword . The penis. It is a calling to impregnate what they considered infidel women thus spreading the Islamic faith.

As an Eastern European, I know a lot about the Ottomans. I am Romanian, and our forefathers fought for centuries against the Ottoman advancement, as did our natural allies - Serbs, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Poles. We were lucky that our Romanian lands were mostly on North of Danube, so we managed to avoid complete subjugation and transformation in a Turkish "pașalık", as happened with Balkan countries and even Hungary, who experienced centuries of horrible atrocities under the Turkish rule. Today, Turkey behaves as nothing happened, and even claims that those centuries were somehow an "enlightenment period" for the indigenous population... But here, at the outskirts of Europe, people have a long memory, and they do remember. Still, we do not complain or accuse, we just try to go on with our lives, leave the past behind and live good lives. Unfortunately, the youngsters in this debate have no clue about all these, probably because they believe is more important to know about peoples of Middle East and Africa than about their fellow Europeans living East of Vienna.

@arachnabell

Ай бұрын

Dont foget to include Macedonia, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia. All of the countries there suffered so much. And it wasnt just during Ottoman. It started way before. We just didnt complain as hard as the other side. Maybe we should have. It seems crying and screeching helps.

@rettedich7133

Ай бұрын

The European Students were indoctrinated by Communist and Islamist professors and collegues in the universities but nobody told them about the Ottoman Empire, whice colonialized south-east Europe and the Middle East for 400-500 years, killed Millions of Armenians, took their country and still fights against the Kurds and christians in North of Syria, etc. Nobody told them about the colonializm of Islam or the Arabic slave trade, the Arabic pirates in Mediterranian See, etc. A shame for the European Students to not know history!

@CborgMega

Ай бұрын

@@arachnabell Correct, I shouldn't have mentioned only the direct neighbors.

@ApostleOfZeus199

Ай бұрын

Curious, do you know anything about Tartary?

@CborgMega

Ай бұрын

@@ApostleOfZeus199 Tartary? Nope. It sounds like some region between Europe and Asia... I have to check. But, do you mean something connected with Tatars? Because we have Muslim Tatars in Romania, approx. 20,000. They originate mostly from Crimea, and they live in Dobrudja area, close to the Black Sea coast, where they settled around XIV Century.

Douglas Murray is always crystal clear on his own. It is insulting for someone to preface his statements by explaining what he will say. You seem to think we are stupid.

Murray is capable of explaining himself; he doesn't need an interpreter. I have been seeing more of this, and have begun, without 'liking', switching off as soon the 'explainer' manifests, and I hope others are, too. We can think for ourselves, thank you very much.

@DisgustedAussie

Ай бұрын

I'm beginning to think this channel is all AI🤔

@carpetsonline3718

Ай бұрын

It's just highlighting some moronic questions ask by so called educated people 😊

@annem9195

Ай бұрын

Are there copyright issues, perhaps? I've heard some channels explain they have to mute the sound due to copyright. Could be why clips are "interrupted"🤔

@HFFCANADA

Ай бұрын

​@@annem9195yes ur correct. I dont mind it sometimes because they go into depths on the subject but sometimes it just repeats what Douglas had already said. Fyi its not A.I. written jus read by a A.I voice i assume the chanel owner is self conscious n just doesn't want to use a real voice. . You can tell by the structure of sentences usually....Regular people use normal words mixed in with some comlex ones. The A.I will consistently use more complex and unnecessary descriptive words to lengthen the dialogue... idk why it does it but its easy to tell them apart. For now lol

@annem9195

Ай бұрын

@@HFFCANADA It's a terrifying thought, how sophisticated this stuff is getting. I'm a bit ignorant about technology in general but I'm going to have to start paying more attention to what I see & hear!

These people never heard of the ottoman empire and their aim to conquer everywhere

Douglas Murray is warrior. You go man.

Where Islam Ends☪️👊🏼 Humanity Begins☮️🙌🏼

Who are these people to question European colonisation when they still celebrate the memories of their own jizya seeking empires like the Ottomans. I am not joking, I have come across s9me of them who wrote op eds tobthe newspapers where they say that the world needs to ditch western style democracy and secularism and adopt the Ottoman empires way of dealing with minorities! Which is very strange, for if non-Muslims adopted that approach, there will be no Hamza Yousafs, Sadiq Khans, Ilhan Omars in any position of government on account of their religion, will the Muslim like it if modern non-Muslim states adopted the Muslim empires' approach and sidelined them in public opinion?

He just crushed that stupid argument. When they gonna learn ? 😂❤

@xanderLudahl

Ай бұрын

funny thing - you often hear a muslim saying things about their own religion (or our) that are obviously untrue. And yet, the Quran instructs them to do so. I don't suppose learning has anything to do with it

Borders, language, and culture are essential.

I just come to watch Murray because of how he articulates his English. People learning English should listen to him more

Douglas Murray is brilliant!

Cannot abide the computor voice and narration. Pls eliminate that

@jstewart4205

Ай бұрын

Simply watch the original, without the narration.

@usafvet100

Ай бұрын

Concur, the comments are redundant and unnecessary.Let the man speak for himself, he's quite capable.

Douglas Murray speaks from an educated point of view. Those people are not informed, they just listen to the noise from the crowd.

CLOSE OUR BORDERS!

I understand about taking over a nation with colonisation because England is being colonised by mass immigration and l now live in a country where the flag of terrorism is allowed but the flag of St George and the Union flag are regarded as foreign and something to be ashamed of. There is barely a nation on earth that hasn't colonised somewhere. And while we're so busy luving in the past Russia has invaded the Ujraine, the Chinese have their spies everywhere, Korea and Iran are working on nuclear weapons, the Arabs still have slavery, the abuse of women by the the sex trade from numerous countries, the list goes on and on. If as a white English person l talk about what's happening to England l'm accused of racism or suffering from some phobia or other. I do have a rational fear that lslam, not a oeaceful religion, by sheer weight of numbers seeks to enforce their godless beliefs and sharia law onto the rest of us.

How about the Arab colonisation? Nobody talks about!!!

@cyberedge881

Ай бұрын

The whole world is the result of colonization. All of us, no matter where you come from or what race you belong to, have colonizer ancestors. The Japanese, for example, are seen as this ancient, homogenous, indigenous people, yet the reality is that they came from the Asian mainland only 2,300 years ago and colonized the Japanese archipelago, which was already inhabited by Jōmon hunter gatherer people. These original inhabitants were hairy, had more pronounced features, curly hair, and completely different culture, language and genetic ancestry. The Yayoi Japanese fought wars against these people and eventually subjugated them all. The Ainu of Hokkaido are the last remaining Jōmon type people and they are few in number and their language is almost extinct. There are examples like this almost anywhere you look in the world.

Islam demands Conquering the entire world they will not stop ...EVER😢

For 700 years they've colonized Spain.

A claim is made by the narrator of this podcast that “Diversity is broadly beneficial”. Where is the proof? What are the benefits? What are the negatives? What are the risks to the indigenous population?

@kerrylawson7515

Ай бұрын

Standard leftist boilerplate. Pay the propaganda no mind. 🙄

@joelhungerford8388

Ай бұрын

Original diversity (which meant a diversity of opinion) is a benefit, unfortunately these days the word has been remade to mean diversity of race colour religion etc, That is why you have actors using diversity as a means to exclude white people and at the same time there being a significant number who cheer on diversity believing it to mean what it originally did.

Always blaming the present for the past . It will never end . They very rarely care about the reality, most just want cash

Time Britain put in a claim to the Viking countries😮😮

6:25 Well put Douglas! Why, because Europe, and especially Western Europe, has been built over the decades into a prosperous and safe place to live. The table is set, so to speak. But, why is this? Because here at least the aim is to respect democracy, equality, equal treatment regardless of sexual orientation etc. All that is not self-evident, it is a consequence of e.g. the Western concept of democracy, where religious fanaticism has no place anymore. If that base crumbles, e.g. due to overpopulation, mass immigration and because of that, radical cultural changes, future immigrants will have nowhere to go.

If this conversation were taking place in an Islamic theocracy..., yeah, it wouldn't.

Where can this debate be seen in full without the interjectory commentary?

How many generations are a people normally granted refugee status and financial relief. ? It normally doesnt apply to your grand children no matter where they live or after they take citizenship in a country but it does with the Palestinian "Refugees"

I would love to hear the debate and debaters speak themselves. I find the inserted commentary very annoying. I like hearing the speakers themselves making their points and making my own views of what is said instead of listening to any overview of yours

@bethlong3011

Ай бұрын

I agree and just skip past the narrator

@hardywatkins7737

Ай бұрын

I agree.

Can’t stand the computer voice

Always remember Always remember this pattern, 1) Conflict is always between islam vs other religions 2) Other islamic countries will not accept those affected muslims as their refugees, but they somehow sneak into non-islamic countries. (Russia, whole EU problem with refugees: France, Germany, Spain etc., India divided into 3+ countries, Iran was not an islamic state initially) 3) once they are into non-islamic countries, they create separate laws and try to break that country too.

What about the short-lived Japanese Empire?

Islamic colonialism was worse than European Colonialism. Example, The Arab Islamic slave trade in East Africa is one of the oldest, dating back 700 years before the transatlantic slave trade. Between 650 and 1900, about 10 to 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and transported over the Red Sea, Indian Ocean and Sahara. However, one thing Islamic empires didn’t do was completely plunder the wealth of the people they colonised. When the British Empire colonised India, India’s share of Global GDP was 23% (to put that in perspective, United States Global GDP in 2022 was 15%), when Britain left India, India’s GDP was below 4%. Unlike the Muslims who ruled India, Britain ruined India’s economy. That’s the difference and that why 2 million Indians live in the UK.

Yes we should protect our identity, our values, from those that come to our homes, refuse them and want to replace with their's

As a Greek I wish to speak for the majority of my people who would like to disown this Fotopoulos character.

👏👏👏brilliant!🇿🇦

I would greatly appreciate it if the narrator would allow Mr. Murray to speak for himself rather than trying to interpret what he is saying as he is speaking.

After hearing all that idiotic drivel and being called on to respond, Murray was feeling like a mosquito in a nudist colony."Well, well, well, where to begin?"😅😅😅

Muslims have a habit of forgetting that Muslims from North Africa colonised Portugal, most of Spain and a chunk of France for many centuries. Muslims from Turkey colonised Greece and all of Eastern Europe for a couple of centuries .... even Turkey itself was a Christian country until about 1450, when it was invaded by Muslim troops.

@VOLightPortal

Ай бұрын

They love to just gloss that aside when you confront them about it and resort to deflect or gaslight. Selective amnesia or worst case scenario outright denial and lies.

Too much commentary tks.

The balance of presenter comment and being able to actually listen to the debates and form one’s own judgements is deeply irritating.

0:55 "ah Hallo, my name is Asvogledeberogubos" Opinion on Europe discarded.

@geertruivanbroekhoven7209

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😂😂😂

Brava. It Is time these things should be spoken out loud and heartily discussed.

Mr Murray is a good man.

Let Murray talk...nobody wants to hear a whiny moderator speak for Murray

We don't need the narrator to over explain Douglas Murray; his arguments are crystal clear and do not need additional commentary.

The ‘Young’ can be so NAIVE (& DOWNRIGHT IGNORANT )!!!

I'd rather hear Douglas talk than the narrator.

Modern societies and nations really do not need to concern themselves with "guilt" over past "sins"... at least beyond the generation that conducted those acts.

I do NOT enjoy this woman's narration. I was watching this to listen to Douglas Murray!!

They invited themselves into Spain and Portugal for 700 years, and then were stopped one hour outside Paris. This is colonization in the 8th c.

It was not a recent talk. It's years ago!

It's not only European colonialist that continue to pay for their past. Regardless of who colonised any country, in 20, 50 or even 200 years' time there will still be those that condemn the coloniser/s and demand apology, atonement and restitution from the coloniser/s. When will this nonsense end?

Shes Greek and talks about "us" as colonizers....has she forgotten the 400 years of ottoman rule??

Islam was the first colonial era that existed in the 7th century before the European colonial era, remember the Christian kingdoms up to Hidustan were invaded and destroyed by the Islamic Caliphate.

The title of this video and the narration by Megyn Kelly is wrong and needs to be corrected. The audience was not a group of Muslim students or activists. It was a European audience held in a European venue. Specifically, Murray was invited to take part in a public debate in Athens, Greece. The two people who spoke identified and presented themselves as Europeans. Specifically, they were Greek intellectuals and/or students who spouted leftist talking points. It was precisely why Murray hit them with his last point which alluded to the Turkish colonial occupation of Greece during the Ottoman period. It was a devastating blow to their leftist position.

@yawbamoah2217

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Can you get me the video and where I can watch it

@chrisikaris5891

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@@yawbamoah2217 I remember seeing it at the time and have saved you the time of finding it. I found it after much searching for it on the internet. You can view the entirety of the event on KZread with the title of "BBC World News broadcast of IQ2 Greece Debate on Immigration". The debate was held at the Onassis Cultural Center in Athens on February 28, 2013 and featured several speakers debating the question: "Should Europe shut the door on immigration?" It was moderated by Nik Gowing of the BBC and arranged by the Intelligence Squared company that organizes debates involving important public figures. The video lasts about 47 minutes.

This clip is from about six years ago.

700 years occupation of Christian Spain Eight hundred years Hindu India

If Someone comes to your house he is not entitled to take over your home and say he has a right to do so.

Certain cultures have no intention of integrating with their host countries.

I’m embarrassed to say the two people asking questions were fellow Greeks… They; of all people; should know what mass migration from cultures with completely different values can do to your country… I’ve seen it first hand in Greece, especially on the island of Chios. I hope Douglas Murray understands that not all Greeks agree with these people and their ridiculous questions and suggestions.

full video please ?

These kids have been so thoroughly lied to it's amazing.

Does anyone know when & where this event took place? Any link would be more than welcome

´´What we see with the Ottoman Empire is a transethnic state, a transnational state with many different cultures and religions, and in which the Sultan is a kind of ordering hand who has to ensure that all ethnicities, all religions and... all social classes thrive´´ Serbian cultural scientist Aleksandra Salamurovic from the University of Jena

There is a very simple reply to all of these arguments put forward by people who have immigrated into Europe. If you do not like the culture of the country you have decided to live in and do not subscribe to it's values, WHY ARE YOU THERE?? Would not your values be better suited to a country that has your own beliefs, go to where you will feel more at home. It's that simple!!

A contract between 2 or more nations, like an economic contract, doesn’t oblige those nations binded by the contract to help each others if something happens. If a European country buys a mineral in an African country, this doesn’t oblige that country to take a significant portion of the African country population if the African country is economically unstable.

Stop narrating me just play the video

We love you Murray ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

How did Muslim countries become Muslim

"While diversity is broadly beneficial"....citation needed, AI voice.....Citation needed.

If complainants nation in good shape why migrating from it them blaming past generations of European invasion Why not stand & fight for good of own nation

Douglas Murray 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

I would have loved hearing him without interuptions. Id rather listen to what he said than a faceless narrator explaining it for us.

NO Diversity InNON✝️Countries(!)

its a cult without a culture.

This can only be settled the old fashioned way.

How long ago was this? Hope Westerners are watching this...

The CRT and the call for reparations in the US is very similar.

Rise Europe Rise, if not now, its never. For you and the world. DONT FAIL.

In 2012, there were six armed conflicts with more than 1000 battle deaths. All of them took place within Muslim countries-in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen. Of the nine rebel groups in these conflicts, seven had an Islamist ideology.

I can’t stand the narration here. WTH is the point. Just play the clips. We don’t need our hands held. Someone likes to hear themselves talk.

Why do THEY and seemingly the narrator too think, that (WHOLE) European union was an colonial empire? Britain is newly NOT part of Eu, and many nations in EU had either negligent colonial holdings, or did NOT have colonies outright. Are THOSE states and their people "responsible" and therefore should their herritage be erased too? And how Eu as a whole could solve the fact, there is a need for atonement, but 10 out of 30 of its member states bore no, even no historic guilt?

There is an uncomfortable truth which needs to be told: European colonialism led directly to an improved quality of life for native populations by introducing schools, hospitals, sanitation, infrastructure, electric power, rail transportation, improved farming and food storage, and effective civil administration to underdeveloped parts of the world. Yes, of course there were abuses that must be acknowledged, but overall, bringing the trappings of advanced civilization was a net positive. While I shed no tears over the dissolution of the European colonial empires in the wake of WWII, I'm equally disinclined to dance on their graves. This brings us to the uncomfortable truth I mentioned: The newly independent nations which arose from former colonies had a choice to make: they could either retain the ways of their colonizers by upholding Western institutions, or they could reject them in favor of anti-Western ideologies by choosing among the available options of Marxism, tribalism, or radical Islam. Those who chose the former in the main flourished and prospered. Hong Kong, as well as Singapore and other Commonwealth nations come readily to mind. Those who rejected them typically celebrated their independence with political corruption and instability, a crumbling infrastructure, sporadic shortages and famines, a revival of old tribal animosities, and frequently a great deal of wholesale slaughter. "Decolonization" has gained a great deal of currency among Leftists in recent years, but I would caution those who agitate for it to be careful what they wish for lest they get it and find it not to their liking. Decolonization has frequently proved to be rather hard on the decolonized. Ask those of Zimbabwe, Uganda, Rwanda, Angola, and Somalia, to name but a few. ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

Because you don't integrate.

Wake up Europe