Important Notes: In a particular fight of the video, there is a strange sound bug, which is due to version 1.1 of Double Dragon for Neo Geo CD (there are also versions 1.0 and 1.2, but the version I have is 1.1), and this bug occurs randomly... therefore, it's not an emulator error, as both versions (Neo Geo CD and PlayStation 1) are being run through their Real Hardware (American Fat PS1 and Brazilian Neo Geo CD) using CDs, which means it's also not an Optical Disc Emulator (ODE) error, since they are being run through the way they were designed to work. And yes, the loading in this game (and also in others) is shorter on Neo Geo CD compared to PlayStation 1 as you can see in the video. Both versions are on the same difficulty level as well... the defeats shown in the video are part of the comparison, as it demonstrates how the CPU intelligence behaves on the 2 hardware systems regarding difficulty progression, etc., after all, we know that when you lose the "credit/coin," there is a decrease in difficulty, so it's essential to show at least the first defeat. It's clearly visible in the video the difference in difficulty between the 2 versions, and among numerous other differences. These and other differences I leave for you to discover, and if you can, please leave a like on the video, as this video took a lot of effort, this game is very difficult (even though I played on EASY mode, which is equivalent to Arcade Level 3). Now, my opinion about this game is that for me, it's the best game in the Double Dragon franchise, but I might be biased to say that... since I enjoy fighting games, but for many, this Neo Geo game is simply bad and one of the worst Double Dragon games, something I don't understand... And I also like the movie, considering that this game is based on the movie which is based on the game... however, I confess that I knew this game before watching the movie, perhaps that explains why my perception of this game is so different from most people's. For me, it's simply one of the best Neo Geo games.

@vcdecide

4 ай бұрын

I forgot a very important observation, which is the fact that I find it funny how people tend to criticize the load times of the Neo Geo CD, when in this and other games, the load times of the Neo Geo CD are usually faster than those of the PS1, for example.

@MadsonOnTheWeb

4 ай бұрын

@@vcdecideYeah, most of NeoGeo CD loads once tho. The later games that really suffers from loading times.

@vcdecide

4 ай бұрын

I forgot to mention that this Neo Geo fighting game was what made me like the movie... I used to think that the movie was based on the Neo Geo game and not the other way around... Another curiosity is that this Neo Geo game was my first encounter with the Double Dragon franchise; I didn't even know about the existence of the Lee brothers... it was only later that I sought to learn about the other games on the SNES, Mega Drive, NES, Master System, and so on.

@vcdecide

4 ай бұрын

@@MadsonOnTheWeb A Neo Geo CD game that really bothered me with its slow load times was The Last Blade 1.

@JohnCharb87

4 ай бұрын

Second watch some observations. 1. The Playstation version has a different menu screen. Feature modes such as "Over Drive Mode", "Normal Mode", and "Tiny 3D Mode". 2. The Playstation version's health bars are lower from the top of the screen in comparison to the Neo Geo CD version. 3. Also during the arcade fight stills from the film are shown on background screen on the Neo Geo version.

It's interesting that the load times on Neo Geo CD are much better after character select.

While both of these are pretty close, I would give the win to the Neo Geo CD overall on this one. The load times are faster, the characters are slightly larger, the graphics generally look a little sharper and less smoothed-over, and I like the fact that the art style throughout feels more consistent rather than mixing anime art, Western art, and live action movie scenes all in one weird stew like PS1 did.

PlayStation always takes care of game openings 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

This game is actually quite awesome. I play it quite a bit on a hacked Neo Geo Mini.

Using clips from the Double Dragon film on both version is one way to showcase how cool your game was. Also the bad guy is portrayed by Robert Patrick. Know more famously for being the T-1000 in Terminator 2 Judgement Day.

@moescredriver5486

4 ай бұрын

Goenitz from king of fighters hahaha

Isso é nostalgia pura. Jogo com meu irmão até hoje.

Neo Geo has the extra frames of animation in each animation it's obvious who won here.

Neo geo cd,o terror das locadoras.lembro quando joguei a primeira e única vez o neo geo cd,paguei 30 minutos,15 de jogo e 15 de loading.

@Dariel9858

4 ай бұрын

Joguei Kof 95 nele...na época, até hj considero um sonho de consumo pra games de luta.

@markvinis

4 ай бұрын

@@Dariel9858 Para ter em casa não tem problema,mas numa locadora era terrível.

@Dariel9858

4 ай бұрын

@@markvinis Concordo.

@claytonferreiradasilva8345

4 ай бұрын

Kkkkk bem isso mesmo dava tempo de dar uma volta na lua e voltar e ainda encontrava o jogo carregando o Loading.

Gameplay graphical difference: The PS1 is zoomed out a little. Characters slightly smaller. The GEO has darker blacks, the ps1 got faded a bit in the transfer. "Very Slight."

Holy loading Batman!

It'll never not be weird to me that Technos themselves looked at the weirdness that was the live action Double Dragon movie and said "Yeah! Lets make a 1v1 fighting game based on it!" I mean it's not a bad game. It just didn't do anything for me. That said I do like the character designs.

Neogeo CD wins ! But Neogeo CDZ wins, flawless victory, fatality ! ✌️✌️✌️

Nossa que video maravilhoso, suas comparacoes sao otimas. Otimo jogo, a versao neo cd vence,.mas a.conversao do ps1 é digna . Sucesso e parabens....uma pergunta voce é BR?

If this game were released for the Saturn, it would be kick ass!

@Ace_of_DiscaL

4 ай бұрын

4MB RAM bundled!

What? Did I just see the neo CD load a good while just for a 5 second fmv?

@vcdecide

4 ай бұрын

Neo Geo CD doesn't do FMV. Neo Geo can only work with sprites, so everything you see is actually a bunch of sprites simulating an FMV. That's why the loading takes a long time for just 5 seconds of "FMV" on Neo Geo CD. Remember that sprites take up a lot of space in RAM.

@GamerGee

4 ай бұрын

Yes!! LOL

It seems like the cliffs and water in stage on the plane scrolls at a lower framerate on Playstation, there's no vegetation either.

The D-stick of Neo Geo controller looks so cool. I like clicky digital sticks. I like the overall sharpness and colors of neo geo, but the playstation 1 has non flickering shadows which is nice as well.

Uma pena não ter saído pra sega saturn, joguei muito a versão do arcade ea versão de ps1 tbm ....topzera tmj

@recomecoemdeus5844

4 ай бұрын

Pow com certeza Saturno teria feito um port perfeito, E me atrevo a dizer que nem precisaria do cartão de memoria, Pois no quesito 2D Saturno tirava onda, sempre fazendo ports melhores do que PS1

Please make a comparison for Resident Evil 2 classic (maybe with seamless hd project) vs Resident Evil 2 with fixed camera mod.

Port do Psone é ok, mas o NeoGeo era superior em quase tudo.

How is the loading on the Neo Geo CDZ?

@Ace_of_DiscaL

4 ай бұрын

I'm guessing prolly about a 5-10 seconds diffence ...

The PS1 was far more powerful than the Neo Geo. The problem was it lacked enough Ram to hold all the animation at once.

I wonder why the PlayStation version has two loading images? It kind of wastes a few seconds of loading looking for that extra image

@Juan_Pablo_81

4 ай бұрын

Now that I look at it more closely, technically the 'second' image would be the load of the next fight. Which adds another doubt to me, what would the first part of the load be for...?

4:05 nossa, na versão de PSX o cenário era totalmente estático

Why is the Playstation footage all blurry? I want the pixels!

@m.jordan5181

4 ай бұрын

It's the game. The Neo CD version is sharper than the playstation's.

Proof 06:05 NGCD feels more fluid (FTW). PSX seems stiffer (LOSS). Verdict: The gameplay is what ultimately matters, although that intro would've been SUPER delicious back in the day ... Enough so to make anyone boast the cheaper option!

SONY PLAYSTATION OF DOUBLE DRAGON VERSION NOT NEOGEO CD PLAYSTATION IS THE MAN DUDE AWESOME TECHNOLOGY IS OUT OF THIS WORLD

A versao PS1 tem essa ligação com o filme, o q é bacana. queria ver esse game no n64!!! salvo engano tem um modo no ps q vc pode dar zoom e rotacionar a tela, mostrando q td foi construido com sprites sobre os poligonos, então o n64 tmb poderia rodar!

@tekinhooliveira9788

4 ай бұрын

Séria bom vê uma versão de Nintendo 64. Mas acho que tinha alguma coisa na arquitetura do console, pois as empresas corriam dele em jogos de luta 2d. Pra vc vê street fighter zero 2 saiu pra SNES e não pra N64. Mas o Double Dragon ficaria lindo mesmo no Saturno com cartucho de 4mb 🙂

@RAFAKSBR

4 ай бұрын

@@tekinhooliveira9788 então esse db do ps1 foi feito com sprites colados nos polígonos ! Acho q o n64 podia fazer assim tb !

@tekinhooliveira9788

4 ай бұрын

@@RAFAKSBR sim, eu tive na época. Tem modo tipo debug que vc viaja nos gráficos do jogo. Optaram por isso pq na época não sabiam extrair gráficos 2D com bom desempenho no PSX. Aí fizeram essa gambiarra. Se fosse no final de vida o PSX faria uma versão ótima. Mas continuo achando que o Saturno merecia uma versão.

I'm surprised you've never done regional comparisons of the "Monica's Gang" versions of the Wonder Boy titles. Or have you?

@vcdecide

4 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2ppspWhZ8yenbQ.html

@SomeOrangeCat

4 ай бұрын

@@vcdecide Doing a game that way is just brilliant marketing, if you ask me. You've got an ultra popular game, and an ultra popular regional comic. Smoosh them together. Instant hit.

Eu fico com a versão do Neo Geo por ser um Arcade Perfect, mas tb eu falo que a versão do PSX mesmo que com a sua pouca memoria ram ainda assim executou muito bem essa conversão, ficou muito boa nele. 🙂🙂🙂

@marcosvander2479

4 ай бұрын

Exato , imagina se o Neo Geo só tive se 1MB de RAM , esse port ia ser tenebroso

@giovannimarcelodasilva768

4 ай бұрын

@@marcosvander2479 Aí ele ia rodar que nem o PSX rodou, ou seja, na manha e ia ficar bom tb

@marcosvander2479

4 ай бұрын

@@giovannimarcelodasilva768 acho que não em. Com 1MB os dados demorariam anos para se enviado e tb no ps1 pode descompactar e enviar dados e depois na força bruta da Cpu Junta tudo. Probrio Marvel vs Capcom , Gilty gear , por exemplo usam sprites escalonados na magias etc. Proprio NEO GEO CD parou de receber jogos apos 1999 , por que ele não é capaz de lidar com coisas mais complexas. Nos cartuchos era bem facil burlar as limitações - ja no CD nem sairam KOF 2000/2001/2002

@giovannimarcelodasilva768

4 ай бұрын

@@marcosvander2479 Ah por crer, a CPU do Ps1 eu já sabia a frequência de Clock mas não a do Neo Geo CD, e pelo que eu vi aqui era míseros 12Mhz

@marcosvander2479

4 ай бұрын

@@giovannimarcelodasilva768 sim e o ps1 tem GPU de 53Mhz Tem muito poder , mas pouca ram , mas no caso de jogos Gilty Gear , Capcom vs Snk Sprites da magia são escalonados , via gpu pra caber mais dados Ou SF03 que os blocos de colisão foram feito em 3d para dar mais suavidade ao jogo. Acho que 2D o ps1 Saturn entregava máximo de 20% á 40% Neo Geo de 80% á 100% em relação ao proprio Hardware. NEO GEO sempre vai parecer melhor , ele não tinha gargalo , ja os 32 Bits 60% de gargalo. Uma pena a SNK nunca ter usado o Cartucho e 4MB de FATO , acho que ele teria certeza que os jogos iam ficar melhor que no NEO GEO CD Imagina um KOF sem load - ia vender que nem agua no deserto rsrs

Thanks for the video. I really love this game and has spent countless hours with a rival friend and by myself playing it. For me it's very very well balanced. Yes, some characters do appear stronger, but there are always and I mean always counters for a not so well thought up move. My suggestion, get the arcade version of the game (think it was mvs) and either go with emulator or connect a keyboard like controller to the real deal. With keyboard,, the moves can be executed 99% without fail with ease (proper defense or double jump afterwards etc.) and you can see the details in which this game shines. With an emulator the down up specials are almost as easy as back forward. If I could mod, those are the only button combinations I would change so those characters would be even easier to play. Their specials are very well at countering lots of moves and comboable if executed properly (specially Dulton). Great for offence, great for defense, great sound (not just music), great animations (makes you feel the controls you input), even great AI for the last fights, really wish for an option to select it as such from the start.

NeoGeo plays better but you can’t beat those early ps1 fmv openings. It seemed so futuristic back in 1995😅

O que fizeram com os gráficos no playstation é uma falta de vergonha impressionante, e ainda acharam que aquele modo 3d daria em alguma coisa. Dessa vez só o neogeo mesmo que a trilha arrange no cd é uma das melhores de qualquer tempo.

this motorola 68000 was so powerfull

On marians level, the TV doesn't display pictures from the film at all, guessing maybe they lost or couldn't get the license for the PlayStation version

@TheUnkow

4 ай бұрын

With such intro, I don't think licencing was an issue. Maybe NeoGeo dumbed down the game a bit when providing it to Sony as it's their own brand game.

Is it comfortable the Neo Geo controller?

@vcdecide

4 ай бұрын

It's great for fighting games, but many people tend not to like it due to lack of familiarity or because they are used to other types of directional inputs (D-pad or analog stick)... remembering that the Neo Geo CD controller, although it looks like an analog stick, actually functions more like a mini arcade lever controlled by the thumb. The issue is that the Neo Geo CD controller doesn't usually have good durability, as there's wear and tear, and the controller starts to fail over time.

@m.jordan5181

4 ай бұрын

​@vcdecide I can't remember if mine used microswitches or not, but yes... they do tend to fail under normal conditions (such as wear & tear). Still a solid controller for fighters though 👍

@nickc4087

4 ай бұрын

The Neo Geo controller is awesome. It's in the same league as the Japanese Sega Saturn controller, at least for fighting games.

You guys have sharper eyes for details than I do. To me they look identical most of the time, except that the color is a little more vibrant on the Neo. Sure, in some stages the Neo has some added detail, but they're usually very minor. And I don't see any difference in animations. To me if we're splitting hairs, sure the Neo wins, but some of you guys make it sound like the difference is huge.

That's so odd that Neo Geo/CD only has 65536 colors to PS1's 16 million and yet the colors are more vibrant on NGCD. Everything on PS1 looks washed out.

I love Marc Dacascos 😍😍😍

Este sim é o melhor game de Double Dragon

Can someone tell me which are the best games in this series?

@SomeOrangeCat

4 ай бұрын

The NES version of 1 and 2, Super Double Dragon, Double Dragon Advance and Double Dragon Neon for me.

@robone9978

4 ай бұрын

@@SomeOrangeCat thanks...

Good one bro This is not a vedio game it is an inmotion

The PS1 never ceases to surprise me with the amount of games it has. Quite ridiculous.

Neo geo is supierer to the psone. More colourchanges, bigger sprites, more background sprites like statue's and the fires in the backgrount causes a big fire in the background, when it get hit. All this is missing in the psone. I am shocked that the ps1 is so weak in 2D. But its solid port

@BurritoKingdom

4 ай бұрын

No. It's a bad port. There is no reason why background elements couldn't be interacted with since every sprite on the PS1 is made up of polygons. The Street Fighter Alpha games were good 2D ports. They even allowed 2 on 1 with Ken and Ryu against Akuma.

@megamario77

4 ай бұрын

@@BurritoKingdom its my opinion on this comparison. Loading times are an other segment. But overall i see what i see and my opinion is not changed because you want it. I played the original and i see no difference, but can clearly see a difference in the ps1 port.

@BurritoKingdom

4 ай бұрын

@@megamario77 I'm just disputing your claim that the PS1 is a weak 2D console. Not your opinion that the Neo Geo CD version is superior. In the 32/64-bit generation, the PS1 was the 3rd strongest 2D console. Only the Saturn and PC-FX had better 2D capabilities. The Jaguar, N64 and 3DO were all worse at 2D. People always compared the PS1 to the Saturn but every other console of that generation would have lost to the Saturn in 2D. The way the PS1 drew "2D" is how every home console after drew 2D, 2 flat polygons with a texture on. What this mostly depends on is RAM. This is why the N64 sucked at 2D. You rarely see N64 games with 2D pixel art because of its used carts and small texture cache. The PS1 was the most balanced of that generation it had the 2nd best 3D (N64 was #1, 3rd best 2D (Saturn), 2nd best FMVs (PC-FX), 2nd best sound (Saturn) and the easiest to program. The PC-FX should have been a 2D powerhouse but NEC only wanted anime games. Though it has the weakest 3D.

WINAMP를 떠올리게 하는 UI와 그 당시에도 존재했던 PS1의 시그니처 컨트롤러는 윈도우즈98시대를 연상시키는 향수를 가졌습니다 UI reminiscent of WINAMP The PS1's signature controller, which existed at the time, had a nostalgia reminiscent of the Windows 98 era.

Probably the last thing I wanna touch on is the odd roster. You've got the characters from the movie, as expect. To help flesh out the roster, you get interpretations of characters from the other games. But then you've got a handful of randos. Why not just farm more characters from the game series instead?

Crazy to think you can still buy double dragon for $5.99 on the American PlayStation 3 store

Wow 😯😮

Nossa adoro esse jogo .

Está bem evidente qual é a melhor versão! Neo Geo sempre superior!

Parece que a versão do NeoGeo CD tem cores mais vivas e cenaios mais bonitos.

Neo Geo CD wins... the PS1 version is dumbed down... and the load times are excessive.

@jtlbb2

4 ай бұрын

you honestly see that big of a difference?

@timecop808

4 ай бұрын

@@jtlbb2 Its got the missing frames of animation, the smaller fonts scaled up (Player wins), background fx are just gone (for example the big screen in the arcade doesn't display any movie screen grabs, its just static)... audio department both have been compressed to fit into audio memory.

@jtlbb2

4 ай бұрын

@@timecop808 you definitely have a better eye for details than I do.

@carlescastril80

4 ай бұрын

As allways.

@alexojideagu

4 ай бұрын

The PS1 was a far more powerful machine. The problem was Ram on PS1.

The Neogeo CD is already missing a few background and character details and animations compared to the arcade so I knew beforehand that the PS1 was going to be even worst.

*NEO GEO com 7MB ainda tens uns loadings bem gigantescos* Os Ports da CPS2 pro Saturn que iam até 4 Pesronagens ao mesmo tempo tinham Loads ZERO.

@hallysonvieira2782

4 ай бұрын

É que é uma outra tecnologia, por exemplo o leitor do neo cd que é de 1x demora muito para encher vamos dizer assim os 7mb de ram, enquanto no saturn é 2x carrega o dobro, ou seja 2x.mais rápido, e no saturn além do cartucho de 4mb ram, soma-se a mais 2mb do saturn,.totalizando 6mb a 2x, contra 7mb a 1x do neo.cd. entendeu.

@arthurcollector4002

4 ай бұрын

E o ps1 com drive 2x consegue ter loadings piores q os do neo geo cd em varios ports da snk

@marcosvander2479

4 ай бұрын

@@arthurcollector4002 LEITOR não quer dizer nada. SATURN eliminou os LOADINGS sem precisar TROCAR de LEITOR NEO GEO mesmo com 2X tem LOADINS bem longos. LOADINGS do NEO GEO são PIORES que do PS1 Garimpando , mas a realidade é inversa é INJOGAVEL jogar jogos no NEO GEO CD OU CDZ Igual METAL SLUNG é um show de slowdowns no NEO GEO é ninguem fala nada. Pessoal protege muito o NEO GEO , e nos outros consoles metem o pal sem dó.

The PSX version holds up quite well.

06:06 you judge which plays stiffer.

Neogeo cd, sega Saturn PlayStation in this order

8:31 ...wheel is spinning opposite directions

RIP Technōs Japan

It looks like a good game. Never played this one. I think they're comparable and PS1 is doing a Ok here.

PS1 has a 3D mode 👍👍👍

Neo Geo Wins... Perfect.

5:19 I haven’t worst yet LOL

This time, Neo geo cd has faster loading times than psx. Maybe the ram was faster?

Once again, you can see better colors shading and bigger sprites on the 24-BIT NEO-GEO CD

I gotta go with NEO GEO CD compared to NGC, PS1 is like a movie, BEFORE visual effects applied 😂 looks like the game isn't finished yet. again, compared to NGC 😊

psx was not chip-designed for 2D games... thats why every same gen console (Saturn, Neo Geo CD) was better than PSX in 2D fighters.

Esse jogo no sega Saturn bem programado poderia ser a melhor versão e com tempos de loadings bem menores dos q os vistos no neo geo CD ou PlayStation mas para mim a versão do neo geo CD e superior mas a versão do PlayStation e muito boa também valeu.

a versão do psx tras muitos extras alem de loadings menores pra mim infinitamente melhor.

The PS1 version looks slightly washed out compared to the Neo Geo CD version to me. But man those load times on ngcd ☹️

1:59 the first intro video on neo cd. And 2:14 more loading. 2:31 neo cd intro sucks. Where’s the other fighters LOL

PS居然讀輸NGCD 而且還是一倍…場景也輸NGCD…看樣子只有SS了

O jogo é muito diferente do filme, e isso é bom, pq o filme é terrível de ruim ...

Loading times are horrendous, specially on PS1, would not play it

"Os loadings do neo geo cd são péssimos!" Isso mesmo, neo geo cd era mto ruim! Concordo! "Os loadings do ps1 são péssimos, alguns até piores q o neo geo cd" Não concordo! Nostalgia, ram, bla bla bla Bem vindo a cegueira da nostalgia

네오지오가 훨 비싸는데 로딩 ㄷㄷㄷ

Versao NeoGeo bem superior

Jogos de Neo Geo no Ps1 sempre forão bem inferior na jogabilidade

why base it off the horrid movie and then not have the characters look anything like them?

As often happens, the PS gets its ass kicked by NEOGEO and NEOGEO ports on Saturn as well. But in 1996, if you want the best of both worlds (3D and 2D) in a single consolle, PlayStation was the one to have. Just too many strong points to be sad about animation frames or a few extra seconds of loading time. BTW this game feels like an exception as PS normally loads faster than NEOGEO CD.

Pisses all over the NES version 😮

Super double dragon beats both of these games. I dont understand why they went from beat em up to this mediocre gameplay. A continuation off of super double dragon could have been the best beat em up ever

por eso es mejor el nintendo 64