its actually heartbreaking what they went through. this is how i dont understand why athletes knowingly take steroids.

@willbendingsteel6258

7 жыл бұрын

Ye? I can not understand how someone can drink alcohol and get dumber and dumber every time.

@Sargebri

7 жыл бұрын

In a lot of cases many of them didn't know what they were taking. Many of them were given injections and told they were B-12 shots.

@MsNooneinparticular

4 жыл бұрын

Some people will do anything to be the best in the world. You can warn of the risks but denial is a helluva drug. Nobody thinks the worst will happen to them.

@gamig189

4 жыл бұрын

They were lied to, it says in the interview

@commissaryarrick9670

4 жыл бұрын

They were East German they had no choice . Either take the steroids or be declared and enemy of the state and thrown in prison

This would make a great movie. Love story, political drama and sports.

@SnakeButtz

4 жыл бұрын

facts!!!!!!

@linusfotograf

Жыл бұрын

@@UCLAfilm01 My movie wouldn’t be gory, it would be human. You think I like what she/he went through?

There's a bigger physical difference between Heidi the attractive, feminine girl in that picture (showing her standing next to another woman) and Heidi at the 1986 European Championships, than there is between doped-up masculine Heidi and the man Andreas she then became.

@migayla3641

3 жыл бұрын

He*

@9chilidog

Жыл бұрын

@@migayla3641*she. Putting wheels on a house doesn’t make it a car, you can’t force people to live in your delusions.

@its_rick_james_bich2575

10 ай бұрын

@@migayla3641*She

@Sean-qf5rn

5 ай бұрын

He

@notamoonraker

Ай бұрын

It is bizarre indeed.

At around 2:20 the translation of Andreas Krüger is wrong (ok, that he said that he toke the pills because he trusted the trainers and he was never informed about where the pills where for - he was told of "vitamins", that's right. But everything else is just wrong.) ... I have not seen the film right to the end right know. Perhaps there are further wrong translations later, too.

@Katrin00000

7 жыл бұрын

Krüger = Krieger. Now I have seen the film to the end. Althrough I could not not understand all german words anymore, I think that the rest of the translations were - more or less - right. Althrough mostly, they were told in a more sensational, more 'loud' tone, than Andreas is speaking himselfs.

@jones2277

10 ай бұрын

What is the correct translation?

"Can you imagine when this race is won? Turn our golden the faces into the sun Praising our leaders, we're getting in tune The music's played by the, the madman"

She was turned onto elite sports like many young girls are turned onto turning tricks. 1. Lie about drugging her. 2. Keep her doped up to perform through the pain and abuse. 3. Keep her chasing the money until she is worn-out/burned out.

@stevenmckinnon1258

3 жыл бұрын

Yes accurate and deplorable their motives; money and recognition

@BrayoFitnessTrainer

3 жыл бұрын

she is no victim. She knew exactly what she was getting herself into. We all have a choice!

@petesmart1983

Жыл бұрын

Sadly that was the communist way , and they were still doing it Russia until recent, until a couple of athletes spoke out

@rottengrapes8605

Жыл бұрын

*he

@pegleg2959

Жыл бұрын

@@BrayoFitnessTrainer its very obvious that she didn't know what was going on

Around 4:01 the narrator says "By 1991 her career was over." The Berlin wall came down in November 1989 and Germany reunited in October 1990. The very least they could have done for her was tell her the truth, stop the pills and pump her full of estrogen. It might have restored her body's ability to produce the right balance of hormones that a woman needs.

I wouldn't call the story incredible, but sad and horrible

Most trans-men, you can tell. With Andreas, I’d never guess.

@Sean-qf5rn

5 ай бұрын

No many many transgender men look like Andreas. It's called you only "see" the ones that don't, the ones that do walk right by you and you would never know. It's mainly due to how long somone is on hrt. After 5 6 7 years.. basicly indistinguishable. But also how young they are when they start is also a factor however nowadays trans kids are able to get treatment earlier because we now have awareness of this medical condition and it is slowly becoming less taboo. So trans people passing flawlessly will become the norm in the decades to come.

@SwagHyde

3 ай бұрын

the only ones you can tell and pick on are early in their transition most trans guys are transparent and look like any other dude on the streets

What happened to this brilliant show. Used to be on really early in the morning ...

@stevenmckinnon1258

3 жыл бұрын

Caspar yes! Totally loved this show. I am going to go search for more episodes now. Funny how the thing about journalism shows like this that hasn’t changed is that they still like to do a lot of sensationalizing through editing to make people’s heart strings pulled. Not that this is not a generally accurate story but they definitely could have picked several other Athletes to talk about doping with that also had similar focal points.

It's great that it worked out for them. It's awful what was done to them.

Sad story hope he finds happyness

@notagarbage6728

Жыл бұрын

she

@botten4187

Жыл бұрын

​@@notagarbage6728 shut up...

@karlovisttimes8271

10 ай бұрын

​@@notagarbage6728he

I don't understand how professional bodybuilders can take steroids. She should sue her coach.

he looks like jeff seid

He already looked like a cute guy at the Olympics

@ginag8723

Жыл бұрын

A heartbreaking story and this us what you took from it?

@Sophya7

3 ай бұрын

Well yeah... bc he was on heavy dose of steroids. Didn't you understand the video?

Warum gibt es über ihn/sie keine Doku auf deutsch? Ich meine uns geht das wohl am meisten an!

Guys pls change the title of your channel it's hella confusing sometimes

What a story what's one individual being subjected to doping. E.G govt said it's supplements. They didn't have a clue with their bodies turning more male like?Maybe Andreas the others from East Germany were too young to realize this since they were in there twenties. Would be an interesting movie I wonder if this correlates with what's happening with trans male transgender athletes transitioning to female. Giving them the confidence to participate in women's sports like swimming. I don't feel that the women who remain women are giving a fair shake when men were having completely transitioned are allowed with their high testosterone and muscular development to participate in women's sports purchase doesn't sound fair.. even college wrestlers have white categories too not give a weight most likely strength advantage over the smaller wrestlers. Does that make sense? Also it's like the special Olympics back 20 years ago weren't disabled athletes will participating in various sports. And back in Spain the coach trained non-disable athletes and pass them off to the Olympic committee that they were disabled. Watching them play basketball it never think they were disabled making all those great shots.. that's a disadvantage for the disabled. That was a big scandal the coach should have been hung upside down like Mussolini

I'm with you as we humans

Ironic that it's TRANS world sport covering this story. Get it?

@611gay5

5 жыл бұрын

Trans Atlantic?

@linusfotograf

4 жыл бұрын

alex ojideagu I honestly thought it was a pro-trans sport channel until I read your comment.

@lotee7131

4 жыл бұрын

Linus Wärn So what if it was?

@linusfotograf

4 жыл бұрын

lotee Then it would’ve been one. I don’t care

@navigatingel6104

4 жыл бұрын

@@linusfotograf I think it is...

Fascinating

That seriously looks like Mike Isreatel

Why is it that no-one ever want to be accountable. No one knows what was given to them🤷🏽‍♂️

south park ironi here...so tragic...hope they do well

@119Agent

2 жыл бұрын

How is it ironic?

I didn't know what the pills were. LOL. I think most Transmen can testify how quickly their body changes on Testosterone.

incredible

Wow

Andreas deserves to be happy and it was horrific what his coaches did to him. Oddly enough--with all his masculinization--I still see small remnants of the woman in him.

Absolutely brutally horrible what they did to

LOL. The "footage from Eastern Germany" is footage from modern Germany, often the western part, with a grain and defect filter applied. Cannot take anything after that serious.

I veery confuse😕

Sad story indeed.

Commies

@eddieash6189

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

She didnt have to get a sex change operation, she would have gone back to "normal" with time, and supplementing with estrogen pills would have made the feminisation faster. However if she is happy living as Andreas, there is nothing wrong with that.

@clawcross

8 жыл бұрын

People who tried to go back to women had series of miscarriages and stillborns, so maybe what he chose to do was right.

@post_ian94

7 жыл бұрын

He actually said he felt like a man even before the doping, but wanted to go through the transition by himself, not in that way.

@pyrokinetic8995

3 жыл бұрын

@@post_ian94 That's the only issue i have with this, sadly thanks to this government wanting to up their chances in winning, transphobes have a source to cling to

@rottengrapes8605

Жыл бұрын

hes actually a ftm transgender, so it all worked out for him in the end

@Sean-qf5rn

5 ай бұрын

I mean he's happy now.

Wedding ring 5: 15?????

4:03 She looks like a guy right here.

@119Agent

2 жыл бұрын

That is what steroids does to you.

@rottengrapes8605

Жыл бұрын

i guess its lucky that he turned out to be transgender then lol

@iambored2880

11 ай бұрын

​@@rottengrapes8605but he has damages from it due to physical exhaust

Holy shhhhiiiiit

@jonjones7137

10 ай бұрын

😂

This is criminal.

So he kept taking male hormone even after all that?

@larciabella

4 жыл бұрын

well, yes cuz one can't just stop cold turkey .It's a gradual process.

@rottengrapes8605

Жыл бұрын

the experience made him realize he was a trans man, so he started legit transitioning after the doping

@jonjones7137

10 ай бұрын

​@@rottengrapes8605she was mentally ill

If someone told me this 'guy' was a woman I would never believe them. 'He' has a deeper voice than the translator lol. 'He's' even balding like a dude.

@Fcutdlady

5 жыл бұрын

That's from being pumped with steroids. Women were given the male hormone testosterone to. Make them stronger

@BOT-qg4lq

5 жыл бұрын

stop reading Wikipedia and start thinking a bit

@mikeoxmaul1788

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's an actor

@wvynus2261

3 жыл бұрын

'Cause he's been taking turinabol and male hormonal pills since he was very young, so it was easier for his body to change

@cjn01

2 жыл бұрын

Testosterone deepens the voice and causes hair loss.

Why the east german women did not shave their underarms are mind boggling

well damm....wow...smh

was für eine Schönheit

U ain't seen NUTHIN' yet.

No way you get all that success and wins without you thinking that all those ""supplements "" they were giving you weren't part of it.

1st found out.....1st ltime looked into a mirror?? The eye test should have been tip off that they weren't like any other

Yoga is effective to, all sort harm

She look beautiful at 14

@user-rs1iq3kt6l

7 күн бұрын

🤨

On a positive note: happy ending 🥰

Oral Turinabol is the same shit that Jon Jones is taking, btw.

@petesmart1983

Жыл бұрын

But he's a man so it works completely different

@Milburt

Жыл бұрын

And Cris Cyborg

So sad.

his walk is kind of feminine

@bradr539

5 жыл бұрын

Can't get around having wide hips of a female..

@ulfurkarlsson5885

4 жыл бұрын

He looks pretty Masculine to me

@TheRetroWoman80

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, it is

@keyboarddancers7751

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradr539 Indeed. It is totally impossible to alter the body's pelvic structure.

@trannynanny5440

2 жыл бұрын

Her**

Bull! She knew what was going on in her body

@Sean-qf5rn

5 ай бұрын

He. And obviously it all worked out in the end. He said he's happy and is married

Look how world change today 😂😂

She????

stasi police , the system that he she trusted, and get her price...-)

What do you expect of Communists???

War drugs the cocaine speed l s d the gases, a b c Sleep drugs Speed drugs Creative drugs

she looked like a total dude since the beginning, steroids might have played a role but...

@demonsorrow536

6 жыл бұрын

moronero thats what i was thinking.

@demonsorrow536

6 жыл бұрын

Looks like a char from the breakfast club before the steriods lol

@prisoneroftech2237

6 жыл бұрын

moronero That's because she was being pumped since at least 16. Heavy dosages of Turinabol. Tbol has heavy anabolic rating...for a woman that's just asking for trouble.

@zoso1980

6 жыл бұрын

Moronero - @ 2:25. I wouldnt' say so. The vast majority of pictures and footage are either mid-doping or after. @ 2:25 only really gives you an insight of before.

@turtleislandlac1490

5 жыл бұрын

She looked like a girl before the doping.

The system failed before, and again but with only the children getting responsibility again... Do the testoron test... Women 500 000

I don’t believe any of these athletes when they say they didn’t know they were taking steroids.

@18pluskiddo

3 жыл бұрын

Why? It's true. Especially when so much money is on the line, it makes much more sense to not even tell the athlete what they're taking, or to lie to them by saying they're taking B-12 shots.

@petesmart1983

Жыл бұрын

Because it's communism they wouldn't be allowed to question what they were taking

Wish i could turn into a women

@rses916

2 жыл бұрын

Try therapy first.

@Milburt

Жыл бұрын

Try learning how to spell woman first.

Where are the parents?

only time i approve of being transgender

@pyrokinetic8995

3 жыл бұрын

Why only then?

@seanlucia6625

2 жыл бұрын

Noone cares what you approve of. You dont matter.

They cheated and now they’re crying victim?! Everyone knew, including the cheating athletes themselves. Now they’re whining and playing victim

@steveavecillas1114

2 ай бұрын

Alot of the athletes were in there teens and they thought there were taking vitamins

😂😂😂

No one is this naive.

@petesmart1983

Жыл бұрын

Because it's under communism you are not allowed to question things

Why do they only use female pronouns? He is a man.

That's why if you people are gonna keep scrutinizing trans-female athletes, then you better scrutinize the cis-gender females abusing testosterone even more

He was always a man that competed with females. He was just lying about being a girl to win the first place.

@stevenmckinnon1258

3 жыл бұрын

Trolling?

@Bulsebub

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenmckinnon1258 No.

@stevenmckinnon1258

3 жыл бұрын

Evidence or just opinion and if opinion then based on what suspicion or simple prejudice ?

@rottengrapes8605

Жыл бұрын

nope, hes just a trans guy that passes well lol

@herewegoagain4041

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you on this one.

hanika on yt.