Doom II: Sunder - Map 18 (The Singing Void) UV-Max in
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Runner: Zero-Master
Date: 2022-02-19
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: Sunder 2407.wad
Category: UV-Max
Map: 18 (The Singing Void)
Source Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.1
Time: 56:01
Description:
Did this a few days ago, just didn't want to upload immediately after map 17. I really enjoy this level, definitely one of my favorite ones. With my route here it turned out to be one of the easier levels, though I did get a bit lucky at the red key fight.
This map introduces the new monster called Hive Mother. I personally really like it and thankfully it doesn't have immunity to splash despite its size so it's not super tanky.
Next up is map 19... actually I did that one a few hours ago too, if you've played that level you might wonder how I managed to get that one done so quickly.. all I will say is I used nearly every trick in the book :) Not sure when I will upload it, friday or saturday most likely. I'll be taking a break for probably a couple of weeks before I get to map 20.
Comments about the run:
Overall happy with it, my time isn't that far off from what I get in practice compared to my other new sunder runs.
Had a different plan in mind for the start, but I messed up the linedef skip. Worked out ok anyways.
First blue key fight I had some extreme luck with none of those initial revenant rockets being seeker missiles as those are quite hard to dodge at the start. I shouldn't have damaged that hell knight stuck on the stairs.. never considered it a possibility for a monster to block other monsters from getting up like that. Also shouldn't have dropped down so early, or at least used more rocket splash first.
Second fight I forgot to wake up the cyberdemons before activating the switch. Infighting wasn't optimal, but overall it seemed ok. Just needed a lot of plasma to take down the cyberdemons and some extra rockets for everything else. Also at about 17m50s in I don't think I've ever had a cyberdemon rocket that close to my face and it not hitting me.. wouldn't have been an issue if it did hit as I will pick up the megasphere in the next area anyways.
Third fight all cyberdemons teleported without me having to really go out of my way which never happened in practice, so that was nice. I don't think this fight could have gone any better.
Nearly fell off going into red key/hive area.
I didn't mean to wake up the cyberdemon in the second red key fight, but he didn't get in the way so it mostly went as I planned.
Absolutely insane third fight, dropping down from 172 172 to 1 hp is not something I think I've ever experienced in a demo attempt before. And this is after the absolute disaster with the cacodemons which I somehow survived as well. This fight is not that difficult, the cacodemon being really far above and also being behind me was unlucky while the 1 hp moment was my fault, bad movement because I was impatient.
At yellow key first fight it's quite dumb to pick up 50 health when you plan on picking up the megasphere anyways, but I don't expect to have any need for them. Usually I don't need to grab the megasphere immediately, but I was too low from red key area. Even though 100/82 is still good I was afraid of taking a cyberdemon rocket when I start the fight, which seemed to happen in practice a couple of times. If it happens then I would survive, if it doesn't happen then I will probably have no further issues anyways.
The revenant sounds had me convinced there were remaining monsters in the next area, so I had to take a couple of extra run arounds to check to be sure.
Final area was no problem, cyberdemons mostly behaved nice. I forgot how I was supposed to release the last 3 cyberdemons, so when I started the fight I didn't want to go back into the center out of fear of cyberdemon rockets. So I decided to run around, luckily that worked and I didn't get blocked too badly, but I should have practiced that more. Took some unnecessary projectiles, but there's so much health it's no problem.
Was afraid I'd run off by the exit there for a moment.
Route/Strategy:
pastebin.com/CH9SZweG
Пікірлер: 182
Had no idea about the Hive Mother enemy, so when I first heard their chittering so unexpectedly it sent a chill down my spine.
@fuzbuzz00
2 жыл бұрын
Right? I had this video on as background while I cleaned my room, and was like "...was that part of the music? No, there it is again. What is- HOLY SHIT"
@felipegomes6312
Жыл бұрын
@@fuzbuzz00 I don't remember having that, they probably added later on? Or am I confusing with some other map?
@costco_pizza
Жыл бұрын
@@soulsphere9242 The Hive Mother truly is the most difficult and terrifying enemy in all of Doom!!!
@threegenders201
10 ай бұрын
@@ienjoihopps2767who designed the hive mother?
@thalligator016
4 ай бұрын
@@felipegomes6312 nope I confused it too. That's because map 14 is actually called "Hive Mother" which is mostly themed like a giant hellish beehive but that enemy doesn't appear there yet. Idk why insanegazebo added her 4 (precisely 6) maps later in but I guess there is some reason for that
I’ve been working on speed runs for Doom reaching for PBs because of you. You’re an inspiration to the growth of the community!! An absolute legend. You single handedly got me into speed running this game. It’s a grind but I’m a much better player now because of it. Thank you sir!
@ZeroMaster
2 жыл бұрын
cheers, best of luck :)
@gwzwart4968
Жыл бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE HERE, MR. "ZERØ" , BUT AM A BIT "DIS_APPOINTED" ABOUT YOUR NAME...I THOUGHT YOU "INVENTED" IT...NO...IT IS THAT YOU DINT LEAVE ANY(0-ZERO!!!) CHALLENGES "UNCHALLENGED"….BUT YOU DONT HAVE ALL "PERFECT" K.I.S... YESS, MAP 15 YOU ALREADY KNEW ***HOW*** BUT ALSTIN HAS THAT "DONE"4U!!! ARE YOU SEVRETLY A LVL/GAME DESIGNER "UNDERCOVER" WORKING4 "iD"™®©1993 SOFTWARE?? C'MON!! TELL US THE TRUTH....Z_master!!!!!
From the description: " _didn't want to upload immediately after map 17_ ", " _map 19... actually I did that one a few hours ago_ " - Can we appreciate the fact that this dude has Sunder level UV-Max runs *BACKLOGGED* for us? :D
@reptongeek
2 жыл бұрын
I know right
Made my day ZM - And
Been waiting to see you handle the hive mothers.
You ALREADY cleared MAP19? I'm speechless. Now I don't even know what to expect from your MAP19 run.
@jamez6398
2 жыл бұрын
Lots of insane cheese that'll blow the mind I suspect. Smart routing to reduce RNG in the fights most likely. Hard for me to imagine it's doable without saves any other way...
The music fits this map well 🎶 Amazing run as usual 👍
@user-jy1vc6md6q
2 жыл бұрын
Duke Nukem 3D OST - Plasma, my favourite music and level from Lunar Apocalypse.
@silentone3852
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jy1vc6md6q Yes. Same here 👌
@thalligator016
4 ай бұрын
I once heard that midi in alien vendetta map 10 like a decade earlier and was instantly hyped. My thoughts were, this must be a freaking awesome map
Never thought watching Doom videos would be so relaxing!
These are incredible. I'm starting to think the Okuplok single segment minimal damage TAS Zero Master posted a while back was actually just him playing normally, but he wanted to be humble about it so called it a TAS.
I've clenched many times during your Sunder runs, but 34:10 wins the hardest clench, I literally turned into a raisin, dear god Incredible run and beautiful map
I don't think I have ever seen you at 1% health :o good job as always mate!
These "King of the hill" strats in the TV room and the Warehouse are amazing. My absolute favorite Sunder map and you mowed it down in an hour. XD Gratz man WOW
This level has a fascinating contrast between the outdoor sections where the void means death and the indoor sections where it's just an aesthetic choice to make the floor detailing look more interesting without getting in the way of gameplay.
Nice, Zero Master! You very professional Gamer!
Awesome! What a beautiful map, aesthetically wise one of my favourites in Sunder. Also really looking foward to the Map 19 run :)
Just because of you and this exactly run you inspired me to get into Doom! Thank u! 💜
This map is so fantastic, I just couldn't imagine something such beautiful! And the music fits so well. Incredible. Feels like in the middle of nowhere, at very deep space. Among with maps 15 and 20 it's absolutely genius. Plz, Insane gazebo, make more of this!
@DinnerForkTongue
10 ай бұрын
I always felt like this was inside Doomguy's own mind.
@dmitriyg1030
10 ай бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue oh, this sounds scary
Great job as ever and I know you got a lil concerned when you got down to 1% health fighting those giant bumble bee wasps. I give you big props for completing this but I also have to give big props for insane gazebos latest addition to some of teh most complex and look worthy maps ever. The see through floors looking down through outerspace has got to be one of the most "think-through" ideas in a long time. He out did himself........until we see his next "best of" creation
Is this man not going to stop till he single segments okuplok or what?! Amazing runs
@jamez6398
2 жыл бұрын
He should do Dimensions...
The king of keeping it cool with 1% health!
Such a beautiful map! Such a beautiful run!
Makes me wonder what the man behind the curtain has in store for the end of this wad in terms of epic
I can’t stop watching - you are a genius
This song is from Duke Nukem Total Meltdown, the DN3D of PSX. Great combination with this map!
@Santti1989
2 жыл бұрын
Ackchyually, it's from Duke Nukem 3D, E2L8. The music is called Plasma. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aa2pmtN8h5nUn9I.html
Looking forward to MAP20! Good luck!
This video was uploaded on the 22nd of February, 2022, the number 2's day, we only get to see this once in the Universe's history.
Woah, now I can't wait for the end of the week to watch map19. With its reputation, I really want to see this map being conquered by a human. Oh, and congrats for map18 ! Another great run, but it feels like a formality at this point.
Such a breathtaking run courtesy ZeroMaster. Keep it up. Insane Gazebo's creativity is elaborated & praised alot in comments here so I instead want to focus on the Perfect choice of music. It is from, surprisingly, Duke Nukem 3D, "DarkSide" level (E2L8). While not "DooM-like" its still one of the most foreboding, hauntingly beautiful pieces ever made & having it in this map really gives it a isolating feel when exploring this dream-like place, also amps up the tension moreso when facing outburst of demons. What an experience. Infinite Thanks to Gazebo & ZeroMaster both, for this!
Amazing through absolute insanity.
Always interesting to see how a survival UV-Max run compares to a tas run. Blue key area literally has half the monster population in this map. Also, while it's difficult to do, if you can get a hive Mother to nail another hive Mother with her rocket counter, the victim will infight due to the splash damage not caring about who shot what. It's kind of the same as the barrel explosion trick. She'll also shoot rockets if her own splash damage triggers her pain state. It's kind of amusing to watch.
That casual mention of you saying you maxed map 19 genuinely caught me off guard, holy shit
Hello you absolute legends... Also my heart started to break at the 32:00 minute mark... but then I realized this isn't a failed run.
This is epic!!
Man this honeycomb hive section you descend into is unexpected and amazing looking!
😮Lots of effort have been put into these maps. Impressive.
@bengaltiger1289
9 ай бұрын
It's hard to explain as a fellow mapper how hard it is to design such alien landscapes and make them functional. Big respect to Insane_Gazebo
Jeez, between the release of Elden Ring and Zero Master's UV-Max of map 19 this weekend is going to be sick!
amazing play and map
Unbelievable run as always zero expect nothing less than the doom slayer himself
I saw you dancing with that demon salmon Baron! Also. Nani! New units! What is this madness! XD
Very beatiful map.
48:20 spidey senses
I love "Duke Nukem 3D - Plasma" music
Nice and grotesque map. Extra monster looking like king wasp. I do not think I can even challenge to this. May be scream and get fried in a few seconds. Awesome play~
Beating Sunder map in under an hour? absolute madman
it was inspiring watching you play this map then after playing it myself i gained a new apparition for your skills your absolutely amazing
Amazing run one of my favorites. Also this madman already did map 19. WTF
Nice, this is 5 minutes faster than the previous UV max by a1s. Surprised to hear you *already* have a demo for map 19, since that one is supposed to be near impossible. I'm looking forward to seeing the route you concocted.
@unclebobboomergames
2 жыл бұрын
"Supposed to be"
@doomerrasa8475
2 жыл бұрын
@@unclebobboomergames I was expecting him to beat it, but for it to take longer since played if played without cheese it's one of the hardest maps in the series.
This might be my favourite Sunder map. The Toxic Touch music adds so much to the atmosphere
@robowisanveithasung6022
Жыл бұрын
the music is from DN3D Episode 2 Level 8, pretty good music
I just realized sunder has like no zombie men
I would die about 240 times in the first room. Love this series - House of Corrosion was a piece of art.
You're like... some kinda mad wizard, man.
I'd love to see control inputs, that shit is fascinating to me
Those custom monsters are wicked cool
Some videos ago I joked, that Zero Master makes a warm up before Okuplok Slaughter Map. But now I notice, that it may be not a joke.
Yo pasé en su día el doom y doom 2 y no se parecen ni tenían estos niveles. Este en concreto me parece una pasada como idea, creativo, artístico y música. Muy muy original
Awesome! I've been playing this wad and it's stupidly difficult
A LOT of talent, perfect skillz, a little bit of luck 34:10 and a lot of patience. Amazing series senpai Zero please do you dare doing Toilet of the gods or Dimensions??, Those are in another scope right?. Cheers.
Glad to see non-TAS in this map. Good job.
Four minutes in and its platforming with zero fear over and over. Epic..
It feels weird to say this about anything in doom, but that music is so peaceful, i could sleep to it.
Not the bees!
This and Babylon's Chimera are my absolute favorite maps.
Boy that courtyard fight before the yellow key sure is harder if you can't just... leave...
That 172 / 172 to 1% was TERRIFYING
Wht the sounds of these SKELETONS are like Traffic moving on the Roads? X-D
LeZM back at it!
OMG MAP 19 CLEARED ALREADY
Someday, I wish specters can be more than just pinkeyes. Imagine cyber demons, revenants, barons of hell being specters😁
"Ah, Sunder … the gigantic alien structures, tokens of an intelligence indifferent to humanity, lowering over dead worlds beyond our ken … What script would the builders of these horrors use, if they cared to communicate with lesser beings … 'PRESS TO WAKE THE GUARD.' 'CONTAINS FIVE BAD GUYS.'"
I honestly think map14 should've debuted the Hive Mother
48:20 WTF ! Where did that revenant missile come from?
I'm not sure how I did it, but I've broken the trigger on the room at 29:53 that locks you in there on a couple of occasions, which leads to an extremely easy fight as monsters can't leave the room and the Hive Mothers just melt the wall of hell knights and the caco cloud as they come down to try and get through the door. Probably would be quicker too if you find a reliable way to pull it off.
The last hive/red key fight is cheesable as soon as the teleporter out is open; the central hub is on the opposite direction of the teleporter, so you can tele out, lure everything to the other side, tele back in, fire a few shots, and repeat until everything is dead.
Is there some sort of lore or back story etc for Sunder at all? Would love to know more about what's going on in these colossal, awesome maps while Zero destroys everything lol.
Hey ZM, awesome run as always! If you don't mind me asking, when playing PrBoom+/DSDA, do you turn on all "Doom compatibility" settings?
@Shepardus
2 жыл бұрын
Best to leave those on their defaults, which IIRC is all off except for "dead players can exit levels." But for complevels below 11 (including complevel 9, which Sunder is intended for), those options are ignored anyway.
wow what a map
Alright alright enough already! I’ll attempt Sunder and Abandon again!
4:23 Ад совсем рядом! )
Does Gazebo intend to make Sunder a full 32 map WAD? If so, does that mean another 8-9 more maps need to be made? Hope so because that'll be 8-9 more ZM runs too! 😁😁
Very nice , ultra hard to get through.... Would love to See a live Stream Battle Mode ,Death Match....
Say. Have you ever tried to play "Slaughterfest 3, MAP28 "Dholes"? Its a good and challenging map with a weird twist before the end. Might be up for your style
32:09 Solid Snake Caco almost ended your run. Oof that was close!
How does on load ultimate doom with these types of maps on gzdoom
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how a non-BFG endurance run looks like! There's so much that can be talked about here.... To start with, I'm surprised how you didn't be in a mess with those invisible floors that let you see the rest of structure that lies below, and tell the difference between those "secure" floors and the true void sections, so you learn which sections to trust and which ones not when it comes to "run securely" over them. The Hive section with those new bees, didn't expect that at all. HOLLY SHIT, 1% AND YOU DIDN'T PANIC! That confidence, THAT particular confidence in yourself is what truly makes you a Player of the Doom World Elite apart from your skills of course. Hands down. 😎 The maze and the final section, and how quick you drove around, that rev missile that came from above out of the blue... I'm pretty happy how Sunder is growing bigger and better thanks to the pretty awesome job of Insane_Gazebo and his creativeness. My gratitude to him for his invaluable contribution.
The fact that you find these gigantic clusterfucks of maps which are an absolute chore to play fun enough to speedrun them is even more impressive than the run itself. : D gg wp, as always.
Damn bro 😎 1% health and 4% armor. 😳
fkin crazy map
I love this Plasma soundtrack from Duke Nukem 3D
Can you make a video on your dsda doom settings? It runs like shit for me, I have no clue why
Do you think the creator of this will go back and actually add the Hive Mother into the actual Hive Mother map? I feel like that would just be fitting but I forgot what his stance on this was...
So it's a bee level. Pinnacle of western gamedev.
I'm no doom player only a watcher and I don't think even after watching Decino play this level to have some knowledge and have god mode, unlimited ammo and all weapons active, I still doubt I could beat Zero-Master time. he is Doomguy himself.
i'm playing this wad too, this map is crazy difficult... i saved/loaded a lot... Can't believe u did it in one segment 😵 i think this is one of my fav too, the beautiful design and the soundtrack are rly epic. But im stucked at the end, surprisigly, your last part trick (trigger the button inside the container at 46:22) doesnt work on Gzdoom ? i rocket jumped above the portal to go next room but i can't go back here... so it's not UV-Max ahahah. This room is impossible to complete without this trick ?
@SylvainProov
2 жыл бұрын
ok i found a way to rocket jump the gate and some other tricks in the next room. Almost easy and no RNG actually 👌... i'd like to find some kind of tricks for the 2 other keys.. but the blue key is rly hell... especcialy the final fight. those arch-vile always send me to the ceiling...
👍
Did someone remake the mancubus and/or mastermind spider?
If this man played Elden Ring, he'd rinse it in 20 mins !! GG WP @Zero Master
@ZeroMaster
2 жыл бұрын
If I did that then I would get to map 20 sooner :)
@SpacialKatana
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroMaster Dood, I am expecting nothing less than exellence for map 19, which kicks my arse lol :)
Customized monsters in Sunder? Since when?
By the way, that music ... Is from Alien Vendetta, right? Even to this day, it still gives me that feeling of sadness and nostalgia, but it's a pretty peculiar choice of a track for a map like this. I wonder what Insane_Gazebo had in mind ...
@reptongeek
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Level 10: Toxic Touch
@user-jy1vc6md6q
2 жыл бұрын
Duke Nukem 3D OST - Plasma
Hmmm all well and good, but your reply to my earlier comment got me thinking...is Zero Master actually going to be playing Elden Ring....? 😲 👍
This. Is. Creepy!