⚠️ *For all those with no issues, (or for those Illuminati 5G lizard alien conspiracy theorists who might try to deny the issues exist👽), Take a look at these lost mx master souls to see how lucky you are* - www.reddit.com/search?q=R%2Fmac%20mx%20master%20jitter Also, even MKBH mentions connection issues. See his studio tour from 6 minutes onwards; kzread.info/dash/bejne/laykj6h8dLjRfsY.html

@madassbadgers

2 жыл бұрын

You mentioned being tempted by a ball mouse. Ever tried the Elecom Huge? Its a well built freak of a mouse, perfect for larger hands.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

@@madassbadgers yeah that was mentioned! It’s certainly huge!

@shebyjlo

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 i have an macbook pro M1 pro with the mx master 3. Until now no problems 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@BobKummerfeld

2 жыл бұрын

As a say in another reply below: I solved this completely with my Logitech M720 by putting the receiver on a USB extension cable about a metre away. Perfect since I did this.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

@@BobKummerfeld Mines currently 1ft away on the same work surface as the mouse... still having issues. 😮‍💨

Stu's review of tech reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson's review of cars. Love it! Cheers.

@hpk

2 жыл бұрын

this let to a subscribe, I love Jeremy Clarkson!

@DallasSportsHomer

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!!

@tashlentine

Жыл бұрын

i thought this exact same thing too. i think its the pure red hot outrage delivered as calmly as the bbc weather report

There are umpteen unboxing videos and reviews on this product. I haven't seen anybody mention connectivity issues. You saved me time and money. Thanks!

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

No problem! 🌞👌

this video should have (if you have a Mac) added to the title. I'm using an MX Master 3 on a PC and its been superb. Battery is brilliant, it will track on everything from glass to carpet and the magnetic scroll wheel is simply genius. But do agree that the thumb wheel is a bit high.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

Noted! *edit* - changed the title for you 👍 As I said the feature set is unarguably brilliant, the scroll wheel is incredible, and the functions are amazing… it’s just a shame that myself (and apparently a significant number of owners) have many issues!

@smithleon

2 жыл бұрын

@@StusReviewsUK VERY impressed that you've changed the title! :) I hope your Mac experience improves with updates. Whilst I'm here, I also use the Logitech MX Keys keyboard and find that an absolute pleasure to use too....although I know that keyboards are VERY personal. Keep up the great videos.

@Angelo-vb6dg

2 жыл бұрын

do you have any issues with the scroll whell not working properly? I've seen many people with this issue

Love this ultra detailed user review. I have just bought the mouse. And have been experiencing the lag. Hinestky the best mouse I’ve ever used so fas is their cheapest lightspeed mouse, the G305. That spoiled me on reliability and feel. I saw a solution where you use a usb extension and make the receiver visible in line of sight to the mouse. So far the stutters have disappeared, hopefully it lasts.

@TheJourneywithhardships

Жыл бұрын

From when this video was made (10 months ago to now) these issues you don’t see as a problem?

Thank you for your frank and honest review. Saved me some cash and a whole lot of time!

Using the M720. The thumb click for mission control is awesome. Really handy for all the windows I constantly need to switch through. I also have the mx master 2S but I prefer the M720's thumb click. Great review!

@1MuslimMan

Жыл бұрын

That is soooo true! I thought he sounds familiar 😂. Thanks Stu! Great review!

BUYER BEWARE - If you have an M1 Mac, DO NOT BUY this mouse (March 2022). I never comment on KZread, but just like the uploader I feel so strongly about the issues with the MX Master 3 on M1 Mac that I have to say something. I work in IT and believe me when I say this has been the most frustrating peripheral and software experience I've ever had. It's utterly infuriating that a mouse that is marketed specifically for a Mac, and that is so expensive, is so broken and unsupported. This isn't something that can be fixed on our end, it's something that Logitech must recognise and provide a fix for in both Firmware and Software (assuming it's not a hardware incompatibility). Logitech has not provided any meaningful support or fix in the last 15 months, I'll leave it up to you to decide if you think that's going to change. I've returned my mouse and would advise anyone considering purchasing it to look elsewhere until Logitech brings out a new model.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

What I find most amazing is how people who don’t have these issues seem to not believe the issues exist 👁👄👁

@jakubmorawski8

2 жыл бұрын

I had the same issue, I still don't know what I need to buy instead of mx3 and magic mouse

@thecowegg

2 жыл бұрын

Running fine on the last Intel Mac.

@ssijbydlaka2183

Жыл бұрын

M1 Macbook Air, MX Master 3 user here. If you are a mac user unistall logitech software and get SteerMouse. I've had similar issues, most annoying was intermittent horizontal scrolling. Absolutely random on and off, 2 seconds here, 5 seconds there and because horizontal scroll was one of the main reasons I went for mx master 3, I started to look for the solution. Logitech support is a joke. Once I uninstalled all logitech software I realised that all the issues disapeared so it's not hardware incompatibility. Of course after uninstalling logitech software I couldn't customize buttons and scrolls the way I like, but then I've found SteerMouse. Way more ways to customize scrolls and buttons and no issues anymore.

@axelfoo1

19 күн бұрын

Is the latest version of MX Master 3S better?

Hi :-) So what's the situation now almost 2 years later? Does it work better? Did you find an alternative?

I use the Magic Mouse 2 with iMac, do have an mx master 2s aswell but I like the swiping between pages/tabs etc that the Magic Mouse allows you to do on macOS . Maybe not very comfy to use but I like the functionality of it

@AndreHance

Жыл бұрын

Use a magic trackpad to the left of your keyboard, and a better mouse in your right hand (assuming ur right hand dominant)

@michalmikus2103

10 ай бұрын

With mx3 its not possible binding?

Great review, very entertaining and extremely informative. Thank you, Stu!!

I have MX Master 3 for Mac. I used it on my old iMac and it was great. Now I have the MAc Studio and it's a nightmare. The biggest issue is that the scroll wheel often stops working. Sometimes every day or a few times per day. Sometimes it works for a whole week. Then suddenly it stops. Total pain. I would scroll to the bottom of the comments to see if anyone else has these problems, but of course the scroll wheel has stopped working....

I use the MX Master 3 with PC. Only complaint with it, as you pointed out, is its pretty high and ended up getting a wrist glide to go with it otherwise the ergonomics are crap. Having said that, it has worked well for me. Not sure it was worth the price, but its held up well.

@cristiandarie

Жыл бұрын

I'm finding the mini version (mx anywhere) much better for ergonomics. Got 2 of them, one on my desk and one for the road.

Thanks, I wondered why I was having problems trying to connect to my Mac Mini, thanks to you, mine is being returned!

The Bluetooth issues are also prevalent on the Intel Mac Mini. Apple has known about it since 2018 and done nothing. The root of the issue is that the BT transceiver is located very close to the USB ports. USB (especially high-speed / high-traffic usage) interferes with the admittedly weak BT. I have this issue on my 2018 Intel Mac Mini. The main help is to not use the USB ports on the Mac Mini, but to run a USB hub with nice shielded cables off of a Thunderbolt port. I still get occasional issues when doing large amounts of data access on USB attached storage devices. I'm currently using the Apple Magic Mouse (with 3rd party rubber bumpers to save my hands), but looking to move from it. I had an old Logitech Master from about 2011-2012 that I loved, but it has gone kaput. It had a tilting scroll wheel that I absolutely loved. Now they've gone to the thumb wheel which I suspect I will hate. I actually like the digitizer on the Magic Mouse for this. I don't know...I feel kind of stuck seeking my ideal mouse.

Been using the Corsair Harpoon mouse and really like it. But as a side note I am left handed and this is the closest mouse I like so far. It is close enough to being ambidextrous with having good features I have found to the moment.

MX Master 3 with a M1 Mac Mini and no issues at all. I moved the receiver dongle away from the Mac using a USB extension cable and have no interference or jitter issues. Most issues I hear are when people use the receiver directly into a Mac USB port and I did see evidence of this myself before using a extension cable. Bluetooth connection was rotten so the unifying receiver is better.

MX Master 3 user here, you're right about the options beta - it's broken. I'm using the traditional green logitech options on the Monterey beta (intel). Once I put the 2.4ghz receiver on a usb extension cable away from the back of the computer and other cables / interference it was grand. I have a friend using an m1 mac mini and I've him set up the same way, zero issues once 2.4 interference is ruled out.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve tried moving the sensor really close, but still getting issues. Intermittently for sure, but still there (probably because it’s in beta still)!

@gar2k3

2 жыл бұрын

@@StusReviewsUK that beta is shocking. I had to erase and install Mac OS to get rid of it completely. Good luck, oh and congrats on escaping the fruit shop!

Great review. I have also spent hours in trying to get my Logitech mice MX master 1 and 3 to work with my MacBook Pro 16 inch with the new processor. Now I use the external trackpad and is planning to buy the magic mouse too although the ergonomics are bad - but it works.

Just got a Logitech M720 and I'm noticing the lag or something misbehaving. I must commend this video, love the LIFE you vibe.

I am pretty much in the same situation . I own a macbook air m1 and so far i tried the logitech mx master 3 , orochi v2 , magic mouse 3 , microsoft bluetooth mouse and the logitech g203. I have tried bluetooth and the 2.4ghz dongle and yea...the dongle is a little better but is not smooth all the time. Every single one of them work ...but not reliable. Not like they work in windows. Pls do a follow up video if u find new alternatives and thank you for your hard work !

@zeppelin0110

Жыл бұрын

With the USB receiver, the MX Master 3 worked flawlessly for me. I can't say the same for MX Master 3s, though. They've introduced this new "Logi Bolt" receiver, and the experience is lacking so far. I think there are no issues with tracking, but the Bolt software on MACOS is half-baked and doesn't allow changing the DPI.. Or anything, for that matter. "Logitech Options" is quite solid, though.

I am surprised no one sue Logitech for false advertising of this mouse.

I'm buying the MX Master 3 and I'm having the same experience. Then I found your video. I wish I could see your video first before I bought my MX3.

I have the Logitech anywhere MX 2 - and it is my favorite. I use them with Windows and macOS... I know there is no thumb wheel, but you can press the middle button to the left or the right to have a similar function. You might try a madcatz R.A.T. - you can tune it perfectly to your hand. and they are available with wires.

I used the Mx master 3 on a pc and it work flawlessly for three months, one day the scroll wheel just doesn't work , more like extremely lagging , since then change into a razer viper mini, which is not wireless but worked perfectly !(about two years).

I had to work so hard to find a video like this cos I didn't believe it was just me having this problem. Had to type in the phrase 'problem with mx3 precision' and hardly got any auto-completing lol. Thanks for this video Stu... will try it out with the receiver and hope for the best

I just recently picked up an MX Amazon edition (so presumably from what you’ve said it’s the MX 1) to use with my Mac mini M1 and apart from it forgetting the buttons I’d set up (which a restart sorted out) I’ve not had any issues.

So the 2 mice I have are the MX Master 2S for my work desktop & the Magic Mouse 2 for my Mac Mini, totally agree with you about Magic Mouse in terms of the Goddawful ergonomics, the functionality of it is fantastic but anything more than a couple of hours cripples my hand/wrist. Never had a problem with the MX Master, but then I’ve never tried using it on my Mac

My wife uses the 1 while I use the 3. They are both excellent, never an issue and I love that you can with the push of a button select the connection as I do use two computers sometimes and it works great. Have to say though that my wife uses windows while I use Linux. My previous mouse was the original mx580 which also worked great for 15 or so years

@viktorg8346

Жыл бұрын

Hey I am planning to buy 2s for linux. No any issues of lagging like with MacOS with M1?

@CamiloSperberg

Жыл бұрын

@@viktorg8346 no experience with the 2s, but no, I haven't noticed any lag. You might be able to use cable though because you can connect it to the usb-c port

Just bought Master 3 some days ago and after dealing for a few days with the jitter issue driving me crazy, the Logi options software and even the -not that ergonomic- physics (and its weight, it is heavy af), I returned it today. Yeah, when it comes to normal working status of the mouse, you even have to feel it comfortable to work for hours and hours. So it kinda subjective depending on the scenario. Sadly, I'm one of those who saw a lot of reviews only talking about the magic features, and get hyped with all those good looking workstations out there on insta, lol. For me, a simpler G603, also from logi, works 10 times better.

@jarosawjarecki7178

2 жыл бұрын

same here G603 is the best for me Gaming and typical office work plus can handle not 3 but 2 devices, so it is quite nice

Thanks for this video. I'm using a Magic Mouse and it's an absolute pain to switch it from my work MacBook to my m1 Mac mini. (I have to go through accessibility using key-mouse) I was considering getting the MX 3 for its "seamless switching" between 3 different devices, no more!

@fakename5156

2 жыл бұрын

Just connect the mouse with the lightning cable to the computer. Connected after a few seconds, boom

@UsamaIndieDev

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah nah, doesn't work for mac mini 😞

I have both mouses and here is my opinion (I use them on Macbook Pro i9 chip, mostly with unifying receiver, but sometimes with bluetooth): 1) MX master 3S came with a new unifying receiver, the new one, it was in the box. 2) 3S is not compatible with older receiver (and the same for Craft keyboards - if you have a combo 3S + Craft, you need to use 2 receivers, or just bluetooth). 3) The same for the software - Options+ is not compatible with either 2S or Craft keyboard (you need 2 versions of the software if you have a combo) 4) Thumb wheel on both mouses is something I never liked to use, it's not precise enough / clicky to be usable comfortably in my opinion (for example when scrolling timeline on Premiere Pro) 5) Ergonomics of 2 extra buttons close to the thumbwheel (usually Back and Next) are much better on 3S. On 2S they are so close together that are hard to press (especially the upper one is difficult to press) 6) Scroll wheel on both mouses is in a very similar position, I felt it natural to scroll on both mouses, great to use on both mouses 7) Side button (below the thumb) is easier to press on 2S. 3S has a smaller clickable area for this button under your thumb. But 2S had a problem with rubber around it (after couple of months it gets deformated and stuck because there is a plastic next to it, with not too much free space - if if rubber gets deformated with time, then you cannot freely press the button - seems to be fixed in 3S, but time will tell) 8) 2S has a problem with screws, they used a very thin plastic inside for screws, and it basically just crumbles. After a year of 2 of using, you start hearing noises of something in your mouse, you open it and you see small bits of plastic from around screws everywhere. It gets worse in time (possibly planned aging of the product - so you have to replace it) 9) I always had problems with Options software on MacOS. Usually it was not loading my custom buttons/presets configuration when starting the system. Doesn't seem to be an issue with new Options software. 10) I used 2S for 4 years of daily using and it was never broken (except broken screw plastics), always working. 11) Overall I'm happy after the upgrade, and I would not choose 2S again due to (in my opinion) improved ergonomics and software.

Any idea if the new MX Master 3S is supposed to have any of these bugs worked out? Great video btw!

finally someone who actually records and points out issues I've been having ever since I got this God Forsaken Mouse lol! I honestly just end up using my trackpad on the mac and a g502 hero on my PC because I can't use the MX master 3s on anything without getting that jitter on my mac or pc with the bolt receiver as well.

@amirshayanmoghtaderi5840

Жыл бұрын

Really? You have a newer version, 3s, and it still has a jitter problem?

I’m using a Magic Mouse 1 (in macOS) and a Logitech Pebble (in Bootcamp). The Magic Mouse works absolutely fine for me, only issue is the 1st Gen will turn off if give it a bump because the batteries will get dislodged. The Pebble is there mainly because Windows is hostile to the Magic Mouse (and the Magic Trackpad), and I like lower mice. The Pebble being a quiet mouse also pleases me. However it is unreliable in MacOS when connected with Bluetooth, it’s more reliable when in Windows but sometimes it has mis-clicks, when using the dongle it’s all fine. I’ll probably get a Magic Mouse 2 because I’m tired with that battery dislodging thing. I’m okay with how it charges. MacOS will inform the user when the battery is low, and the remaining juice can easily last a day or even more, just remember to charge it at night and it’ll be fine.

I got the MX Master 3 and an M1 Mac Mini and don’t have these issues. I’m assuming this has been corrected already. I don’t have any connection issues in any way anymore. Very comfortable mouse and very good performance now. I suggest everyone gives it a try again

Which would you recommend for Macbook air m1 ?magic mouse 2, Mx Master 3 for mac or regular Mx master3 ??

Excellent video. I am using a logitech g600 at the moment and I have been on the fence about the mx master sinces its a good fit for me but given the issues discussed I’ll have to wait / consider alternatives

The 2s has been working completely fine for me on an M1 max 16in (knock on wood). Certainly always looking for a good mouse! Always glad to have options.

I was very tempted to buy the Logi MX Master Mouse today, I bought The Magic Mouse 2 yesterday, but took it back today. Currently using a Logitech B100 wired mouse.

So glad to see an honest opinion about it! I too was swayed by the numerous praise by KZreadrs at the time, but I just never really got on with it. It felt slightly cumbersome to use, and I would get weird wrist aches. Ended up selling it on eBay, and getting a Magic Trackpad instead. Works smoothly, and I just can't do without the multi-touch gestures and speed in my everyday work.

Do you notice when usingin M1 Mac, it takes a few seconds for the logitech mouse to "talk" to the logitech driver to adjust the cursor speed? I have set tracking suitable to my liking, but every time when login the Mac, it takes a few seconds to re-adjust to the right tracking speed. There are two setting for the track speed, one in the Mac OS setting and another in the logitech options app. Do you experience this and what can be the fixed? Connecting via the dongle seems reduce the time for the mouse to adjust the speed to where I set.

I use the Mx master 3 with the dongle on windows laptop for work. It works flawlessly. When I plug that dongle on my MacBook Pro M1, connected to external display, it lags and jumps over the screen. Surprisingly it’s a bit better via Bluetooth. But even my hackintosh is more stable. I can’t live without that mouse - I have the silver version which I Love. But I agree with you, with such a big revenue income they should come with a solution. I read that some people had a better chance using an USB extender to connect the dongle, specially for the Mac mini. Maybe worth a try :)

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

I might give it a go!

I hate to recommend a different Logitech product after this review, but the Logitech G502 HERO is absolutely phenomenal. I've never had any issues with it, it has plenty of extra buttons that are very easy to access. While it doesn't have a sideways scroll wheel, you can click the middle scroll wheel left and right for sideways scrolling. I've really only used this mouse for gaming and some 3D modeling on a PC so I can't say how well it holds up on a mac, but I've had two of these mice over time and I think they really are great.

@mrcvry

10 ай бұрын

My deal breaker was the missing internal memory. The 502 has even 5! But the 502 has no BT. Got a Razer Basilisk instead.

I use the Apple Magic Mouse and it’s great apart from several things. No quick change to another device. What often drives me mad is that I often accidentally swipe sideways resulting in a previous page or previous video. I don’t like that, hence landing here while researching an alternative.

omg... you made so many good points. I thought i was crazy because everyone raved about this mouse. And i agree with everything you've said.

I really prefer lightweight ambidextroux mice. I love the logi G203/305 mice as well as the G Pro X superlight, what I really F-hate is mice acceleration and in MacOS isn't any way of disabling acceleration without a third party app. Also I found that I prefer to use a trackball (M575) in MacOS. Almost forgot to mention that the newer models (Macbook Air) doesn't come with USB type A for the dongles so you're stuck with BT connection.

So which mouse would you recommend? I’m experiencing all the issues you mentioning lol. I was tryna get the master 3s but I think I’m done with logintech.

@phillipsteyn8788

Жыл бұрын

get a wired mouse issue solved and many more options.

Corsair mice for me have been the solution. The build quality is not as good, but you get a great sensor with all three options, wired, dongle, and Bluetooth. I wish more mice actually supported that. And I'd wouldn't even think of using a master if it didn't have that side scroll wheel.

Gaming mice have spoiled me. I bought this mouse for work but the latency/precision was killing me. Not having 1000hz polling rate makes everything feel sooooooo sluggish and imprecise.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

I know right… certainly not the most precise 👀

@hsk797

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly I had been using G402 to do all my design work and I thought I was upgrading by purchasing MX master 3 but then I had to sell it and get Razer orochi because it was the only wireless gaming mouse with high sensitivity and 2.4 GHz and Bluetooth connectivity.

I've been using the MX Anywhere 3 for about a year now and absolutely LOVE the MagSpeed scroll wheel. I spent weeks shopping for a new desktop mouse because I needed a hybrid office/gaming-friendly mouse and would have sold my soul for one with the scroll wheel, to no avail. Ended up with the Razer Basilisk Ultimate. It's good, I like it, but nothing will beat the sublime feel of that gorgeous MagSpeed scroll wheel.

@axlerod6663

2 жыл бұрын

MX Anywhere 3 is a really good mouse, using it for a year. I have not seen any disconnection issues with it till now.

@mrcvry

10 ай бұрын

Just bought the Basilisk V3 Pro. Don‘t know the Ultimate but the Pro has the same awesome scroll-wheel like the MX Master. Returned the MX because it has no internel memory. For the keybindings the Logi software has to run at all times. 👎🏻

Finally I found a video that kinda explains all the struggle I'm going through. I have an Macbook 2014 and an MX Master 2S. They work perfectly together. However, recently I bought an M1 Mac mini, and the problems started. The mouse simply disconnects for no apparent reason when using BT. And for over an week now it doesn't even connect to the computer. The only "solution" was to use the unifying receiver. That is so frustrating.

So what do people suggest other than these MX ? My problem is non connection after my MacBook has been put to sleep.

okay and what mouse to buy now?

Two cheap Tecknet MGQ424, one for my Macbook Air and another for my Surface Pro 6. I've had them for years and they work fine on wood. They take AAA cells and I just keep a couple of cells fully charged ready to swap in. That is more convenient than having to charge a mouse when it runs out. For my Dell deskside I use the wired mouse that came with it and a USB switch to switch everything to a Surface dock. I have a Logitech ball mouse but I never use it. I hate trackpads.

Thanks a lot for this review, I don't have a mac m1 just an old macbook. If looking for a mouse to use in between windows PC for work and the laptop for studies. Will this suffice because I'm conscious of wrist pain etc

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

You’d probably be okay I’m that case 👌

I bought the MX Anywhere 3 and the MX Keys keyboard about a year and a half ago. I need quick switching between a Mac and two Windows PCs and this combo seemed to do a good job. I did have some issues with the mouse, but it seems they've gotten a lot worse recently. Could be related to other changes in my Mac configuration, but whatever the reason I'm no longer able to use the MX Anywhere mouse on the Mac at all -- the problems have gone from sporadic to constant -- Lightroom & Photoshop are impossible without proper mouse functionality. I had an old victsing mouse and connected it to the Mac, so I'm content to just stick with that for now. It's easy enough to just keep two mice on my desk, and fortunately I've had no issues with the keyboard -- one button on the keyboard selects the Mac or PCs.

Did the MX Master series address the stutter when you are scrolling especially with inertia scrolling? to me this is the biggest issue why I couldn't get into the MX mice.

Hey Stu! Thanks for the honest review. Unfortunately I saw this video too late. I got myself the MX 3S for Mac, but I'll try to return it. Do you have any suggestion for another bluetooth mouse I could try out?

@chinafunnytao2523

Жыл бұрын

use wire mouse! no other option!

I've been living and getting by with my battery operated 2009 magic mouse. Totally get the cramp thing as the profile is too low and flat, I enjoy the smoothness when you swipe between windows and how it glides. My main issue with most (mice?) is that mine has to sit at arm's length away, to the right side of the desk because my midi keyboard is front and centre. That means that quite often my mouse and mat slip off the cliff edge because I'm focusing on the screen instead of my mouse positioning. Not really a fault of that kind of mouse, but with so many people using computers for productivity other than just office tasks these days, the traditional mouse can get in the way of hardware. I'm looking for other control solutions that don't involve needing to physically move the mouse around. I think the roller ball, or track pad styles might be my only options. I think the roller ball would be more ergonomic on the hand, but it's such an old and overly chunky design and I'm not sure that running my thumb constantly over a big ball is my thing

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

I mean you could try something *like* this; thepihut.com/products/leap-motion-controller-with-sdk?variant=27739743889¤cy=GBP&gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3OVnYNWB_jHGxh0iRgIYN8QBtQWa7peMe2Y_j2rsOt5PnXv0Lfg6_xoCA78QAvD_BwE Not sure if thatll work for mouse pointer, but im sure i've seen someone somewhere use one to control their mouse pointer! (dont quote me)!

@morganm1667

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stu, I hope you're well. Love the concept. I'm going to see if I can find some more info to see if it is easily configurable to go from hand gestures down to higher degree of precision. Jamiroquai's Matt Johnson was recently demo'ing something in development that is along similar lines, but it was designed to be more music production studio specific and was defo more of a hand gesture designed software. It all looks great. I'm just looking for something that doesn't involve sliding a mouse across an area that I don't have, that is precise enough to navigate Mac system folders and zero'ing in on small virtual knobs and sliders whilst being ergonomic. Thanks to you I have a few options to consider! TY. 👍

Thank you! I had ordered the MX3 based on all the gushing KZread reviews but my order was canceled. So I went onto Amazon to order it from there only to see all the terrible reviews contradicting all the raving KZreadrs so I I found you when I searched to see if anyone on KZread is actually being honest but this mouse.

about 4 years ago I purchased a MX1 mouse - to go with my new Alienware laptop. It was horrible!! returned it back after 1 days use. I waited for the MX2 to come out and having no issues since. Also due to limited USB ports on laptops I wanted to use the BT connectivity. Last year I've switched to a MBP m1 max. The MX2 mouse is still good, connects quick via BT no lag or other issues, also really taking advantage of the device switching when jumping back to my Alienware from time to time. Only downside I have is the scroll wheel on the mouse got damaged I did a repair on it to keep me going, so I currently have no free scroll. Not too bad I can live with it, only when working late at night the scroll clicking noise seems really load. I think next upgrade for me will be the MX4 - if they do release one.

Thank God someone finally said it, I am having same issues I sold it and got razer orochi v2, which is significantly better with Bluetooth connection

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I have been in a love/hate relationship with the MX Master mice since version 1 also. I currently have the MX Master 2S and have been delaying replacing it. I have a Mac Mini M1 and share your frustrations with it's bluetooth issues. I finally seem to have resolved my issues with the stuttering by connecting only through the 2.4mhz dongle. I also believe the stuttering is caused by interference by nearby wireless signals, so have re-positioned everything until the issue went away. My dream mouse would be an MX Master version 1 with the Logitech Lightspeed connection. Hopefully someday it will happen.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

Quite a few people are mentioning that fixed the issues… unfortunately mine is persisting! I’m wondering if it’s wireless interference or something like that!

@SiAnon

2 жыл бұрын

@@StusReviewsUK The only issue i ever had with the Master series of mice was when the dongle thing was in the back of the PC. It stuttered a bit here and there etc. I got a usb extension cable and ran it with the dongle in the end so it was behind the desk but in line with where the mouse is. Never had that issue since. Might be worth a try at least.

@randomcharachter

2 жыл бұрын

@@StusReviewsUK I got a usb 2 cable and tacked it to the wall totally away from everything and it more or less completely solved it.

Is there any new update that solves these glitche and lagging problems of the mx master 3s on MacBook m1 computers?

@abbasz1

4 ай бұрын

I guess now they have resolved most issues, try the update on logitech software

I'm currently using the M2 Mac Studio. Which mouse would be a better choice: the Logitech MX Master 3S or the Magic Mouse?

@bobautrey65

5 ай бұрын

IMHO, you can't go wrong with the Magic Mouse.

I have had the 1 for years, working fine. Recently after a couple of months with my new Mac Studio selection and other things became quite erratic. Bought the MX3 for Mac in order to solve this but could not even establish contact with Bluetooth. Saw your post and decided to return it immediately. Looking for a good alternative now

@StusReviewsUK

Жыл бұрын

And i still am! 😭

@azgard8914

Жыл бұрын

I was literally just about to buy master 3 for my 2018 imac

@azgard8914

Жыл бұрын

Would the Logitech g502 x plus be any good

@poeda6637

Жыл бұрын

@@azgard8914 I wouldn't know but I now bought the Dell MS5320W which works fine on a Mac It is not as nicely curved as the MX but not too bad.

@poeda6637

Жыл бұрын

@@StusReviewsUK I now bought the Dell MS5320W which works fine on a Mac It is not as nicely curved as the MX but not too bad.

I was using the mx master 3s for m1 mac but i started experiencing audio issues with my jbl speaker crackling sound when playing audio, any idea why that could be? Would i need the logi bolt or is it something else?

After lot of grief I found that in my case the jitter issue was not related to the software, it was the distance between the unifying receiver and the mouse. Seriously, put it about 6 inches away and it won’t do it ever again. I had to use a usb extension cable.

I'm at the same crossroads, I have had the Logitech MX Vertical mouse for over a year, I like it but I have the same problems on my Macbook pro M1, they have been partially solved with the unifier, it's not perfect at all, super annoying because it's an expensive mouse. Today the wheel has stopped working, I've tried to repair it and nothing worked!! As a graphics designer, I need an ergonomic mouse, so I was thinking to opt for the MX Master, but I don't want to have the same problems, especially if it doesn't even come with unifying. I hope we find some other similar mouse that is not Logitech, I really need it!! Thank you for the informative video, subscribing

I use the wired Logitech MX 518 and G400 on the Mac Studio with Sonoma 14.1.1. Both mice actually worked well until Ventura. With the last Sonoma update, however, the problems started. When moving objects on the desktop, they keep getting stuck. They can be moved, but these delays are annoying. When I work with Adobe programs, there are display problems with the cursor and some tools. When work palettes are moved, they drag slowly as if on a rubber band. This was not the case before Sonoma. However, if I use the Magic Mouse, which is connected to the Mac via Bluetooth, I don't have these problems. Very strange. But I think the Magic Mouse is a real ergonomic disaster. It doesn't matter whether I use the two Logitech mice with the Logitech software or with the universal driver USB Overdrive - the problems occur in both cases. I already suspected that Apple might be deliberately preventing the use of third-party mice. But that is certainly wrong.

I have two MX Master 3 mice, along with the Ergo M575, and the MX Vertical. I am in pain from the MX3 which is why I purchased the others, so I switch back and forth. I love the ability to switch back and forth and love the MX3 capability for many devices, but not sure where this pain in my wrist and hand came from.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried a gadget called ‘carpio’ by delta hub? You could see if that makes a difference! Also how do you find the mx vertical?

@mallorydurrick

2 жыл бұрын

@@StusReviewsUK The vertical mouse isn't bad. It's not solving the problem but it is a change. I'm also like you with my hand on the mouse quite a bit, even though I type on the keyboard more than you probably do. l'll check out that Delta Hub wrist rest now. I don't mind buying another mouse if it solves the pain problem. I do use a pillow for the wrist by Brila. But that one looks interesting. Thanks, Stu!

honestly, i've been so dissatisfied with available choices for mac first keyboard and mouses that i just resorted to using almost only my mac's built in keyboard and touchpad (even for gaming, when i do), and it works well for me. i know you've mentioned that using the magic trackpad strains your hands, so i don't think that would work for you. it kind of sucks that short of logitech there's not many good high quality mice that are also not completely gaming focused.

@Stu‘s Reviews I wonder if the new MX Master 3 for Business (with new „logi bolt“ wireless connector) is solving your issues? Maybe, Logitech can provide you with a sample?

@falklumo

2 жыл бұрын

Logitech Support has a YT video saying that Logi Bolt has max. latency in noisy environments in macOS of 4ms, compared to 57ms to 610ms with other, unnamed products.

I’m still using my Logitech M275, it’s pretty old but I just absolutely love how it feels, the scroll wheel is starting to fail tho so i bought a master mx 3s, i’m still keeping the old one tho. It literally has a smooth spot from my finger on my left mouse button xD

I have the MC master 1 and think it’s great, I use it on 2017 iMac and dell inspireon laptop and find it great at swapping between them. I use the Bluetooth for connecting to the iMac with no issue and use the dongle on the laptop. I have experienced twice when the scroll wheel stopped working while using the iMac, restarted the iMac and it fixed the issue, that has been in 4 months of use

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting! Someone else mentioned the scroll wheel issue - bizarrely I don’t seem to have come across that one myself?

Interesting. I have the MX Master (1) because it was cheap on amazon (£35 when i bought it). Works flawlessly with my intel 16 inch macbook and my M1 macbook air. Wonder what this issue is down to.

Good video Stu! Was thinking of a MX Master 3 as i changed to an MX Keys Keyboard but am thinking twice now. I currently use a Dell MS5320W mouse which works great for me on Windows and Mac. Cheap too at around £30. Worth a look.

I’ve been using an MX Master 3 with my works laptop for months now and it’s been brilliant, amazing battery life.

@StusReviewsUK

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the battery life is incredible!

I'm using an M1 MBP and Logitech MX Master 3s but I did not encounter any issues in terms of connectivity.

Idk about mac OS, but I have the Master 2S and use it via the receiver with Windows. Best mouse I've ever had, never experienced any issue with it for the 2 years since I have it. Bought it because of the hype and I'm glad I did. My favourite feature is the multiple device use and how easy is to switch between them. Given all of this and the current trend of most mice being ambidextrous(which I absolutely hate and find extremely unergonomic), I don't think I'll be using anything else than the Master series or whatever they call it in the future.

I agree with your discovery. It is lagging on PC as well. I found it lagging when I connected the receiver next to the usb flash drive.

There is a bug in my M1 Pro with my Mx Master 3s. When the computer sleeps, the mouse becomes laggy. I have to restart the bluetooth module everytime throught terminal. You can restart the Bluetooth module by typing "sudo pkill bluetoothd". It worked for me.

The MX Master 3 was my first BT mouse for my Mac Mini M1. I had the exact same problems as you and it's still not fixed. Even the cheaper MX Vertical runs smoother on my system which is crazy. I currently use the wired version of the kensington trackball (expert version) and like it. But it's still not the perfect solution for me. I'll try the Razer Deathadder 2 next and then the MadCatz R.A.T 8+

@meh8099

Жыл бұрын

The issue is with the Bluetooth on Mac.

@sebastiantrauter2368

Жыл бұрын

@@meh8099 yeah it works better with the dongle

@meh8099

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastiantrauter2368 I really don't understand what this rant is about.. the guy in the vid is just ranting instead of doing proper research if the hardware is a good fit for his usecase.. then it doesn't work and he goes online to rant about it, only likes comments where others say the product is crap.. While he could've just used his brain in the first place and ask himself if he really needs this mouse for his usecase, which clearly is a NO because he's ranting about it not having a wire, completely missing the point why you want to buy this mouse. Then instead of being aware of the crappyness of Apple hardware: bluetooth sucks. He goes and blames Logitech for the incompetent and highly overpayed QA engineers at Apple clearly not doing their job to validate the Bluetooth connectivity. The whole solution is simple: pair with the bolt USB dongle. If he would complain about Logitech not using USB-C for the bolt dongle: then yes he would've had a point. Maybe he did, didn't watch the video anymore after the 7 minute mark..

@sebastiantrauter2368

Жыл бұрын

@@meh8099 his arguments are pretty much right I would say. I mean if Logitech brings something on the market and then also brings out specific mac versions of that product, the customer can expect a fully functional product right? If Bluetooth would be the only reason why the MX is not working correctly, there would be nothing that Logitech could do since it's an Apple problem. But I guess it's not just the Bluetooth. Other Logitech products work way better (MX Vertical for example) and the magic mouse 2 has no problems at all (except the shitty form factor 😅). So the rant is basically about companies that release unfinished products and about yay sayers that are either sponsored or are on the hype train because not many have something negative to say about the MX. Maybe their expectations are way lower but from a neutral point of view, the MX Master 3 is (was) way overpriced for what it can do. It's a different story now since the newer version is on the market but it almost took me 2 years to get used to the MX with it's issues and i'm not using logi options anymore since the software is just not what it could be. All in all the point of the video was to show people, that the product has some issues under certain circumstances and that it's definitely NOT the new standard mouse for professionals, creatives or powerusers. I was blinded by all these good reviews and was disappointed when I got my MX. That's why I find negative reviews way more helpful than the positives tbh 😅

is this for all logtech mouse, like the mx ergo and the m850? I bought m850 and tried it before but I returned it to try the mx ergo but idk if will be ok.. im loking for mice to ease pain in wrist, eblow shoulder arm when using computer

I use the MX master 3 with my work Windows laptop, my iPad Pro and my M1 MB Pro and I dont have these issues, maybe I'm just lucky? I do wish that both the mouse and keyboard would change together when I press the keys on the keyboard instead of having to pick the mouse up to change channel, but apart from that its been flawless for me... Sorry I can't be of any help but I figure a comment helps the KZread algorithm...

I had the same issue with my series 1 and it had the same lag on my Intel Mac, it’s not an M1 issue it’s a Logitech issue . Also had lag issues on various windows laptops, Logitech support was as usual useless, for the price I’d expect a product that works. I feel many KZreadrs don’t use the products they review and yes they do get caught up in MX fever

Hi, what is the numpad you're using? Can anyone recommend a low-profile numpad to match the Keychron K3?

All these points are valid. My only issue with this video is that you should make it more clear when it was posted as KZread says it was posted a year ago which not accurate. Today is November of 2023 and based off what I saw in this video I am guessing it is from 2021. Which by now all the connection issues have been addressed. Ergonomics are personal and I find the MX3 very comfortable, in fact more than my old MX1. Also, I have had mine for a while with no connection issues on an Apple M chipped Mac.

thank you. you have chaned my mind. i planned to buy mx 3 for mini mac 2 but i changed my mind and i will buy apple magic mouse even it is small and may hurt my hand but atleast it still fully compatible with mac

If you're still interested in the question, I use a MX Master 3 with a Macbook Pro 16 Intel (2020 model I think) using native bluetooth (no universal receiver). Been using it since 2021 and had no issues.

Ive been using the Roccat Kone XTD for 5 or 6 years. Roccat is a smaller company in the gaming arena but the German engineering shines through ive even gone on to get their keyboards, the alumic mouse mat and their Lapboard for bed based gaming :)

I have the MX Master 2S with my M1 Mac Mini setup (via BT) and haven’t had any issues. Since upgrading to Monterey I have noticed my Logitech MX Keys keyboard is a bit sluggish when entering my user password when first turning the Mini on. Fine after that.

Mine is going back, scroll only works on PC, no matter what 'tips' or settings and 'answers' to the problem I try, it just doesn't work. Terrible. Macbook Pro 2021 M1 chip.

I'm very odd, I bought up all old stock I could find of the Lenovo ScrollPoint Optical. It had a 2 way scroll system based on the ThinkPad trackpoint. It would be nice to see something where that can be implemented again but maybe locked in an + formation.

I don't use a mouse with my Apple M1 laptop, I have got bad arthritis in my hands, unfortunately. I am thinking about getting an Apple Magic Trackpad, to make my life easier. What do you think, can you think of any cheaper alternatives for myself?

@StusReviewsUK

Жыл бұрын

You might find the trackpad just as bad. I found that using one with an imac i would get 'claw hand' quite quickly, and my palm would start to ache... but everyone is different! Fortunately apple have a great 14 day return policy 😉

Thx for this review. I have stop thinking about buying this. I'm photographer and i'm using Logitech mx master very old wired series, after many years is starting to give up slowly. So, i just make search for a replacement in a model of MX Master 3s for Mac, but for i can see, there is a still problems. :(

You said what I've been saying - word for word! And I'm still looking for a decent mouse for my MacBook Pro M1

I have been using my Logitech MX Anywhere (first model) for my PC when it first came out on sale donkey years ago... Still using it today. For gaming, Razer Mamba Wireless.

I had the same feeling using mx master 3 for Mac in my MacBook Air m1… was so slow, not precise… it offer you 10000 functions, but don’t work good.. and another BIG CONS for me: was really heavy Mouse! And I don’t have small hand.. but hours of use, I’m sure would hurt my hand..